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Why we are not getting 3.2

Well i mean this is just speculation from my standpoint.
For wifi versions, no 3rd party software developers are impeding the process
I.E. Verizon LTE versions are affected by Verizon's wishes as some people had problems with the Fascinate if you know what i mean.
Now i believe that the reason we are not getting anymore updates on the 10.1 tab for honeycomb is because of the upcoming release of the ICS.
Because ICS will be for both phones and tablets, there is probably no interest from Samsung to spend the time and the resources to update their tablets to the most updated software.
And as we all know Samsung got the first dibs on the ISC software code, i think it is not in the near future that Samsung begins to release ICS source code for all of their products.
It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
OH well this was just my simple rant for today
I wanted to know what your thoughts were..
Best,

3.2 is more for smaller screen tabs. We are not missing much aside from resizable Widgets.
Look at all the issues the guys in the Asus forums are having with 3.2.
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I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...

Since its been only two month since the "Touchwiz" update and there are no pressing bugs to fix nor brings 3.2 any real needed functionality, I'm not surprised that Samsung hasn't updated the tab. A new version number might seem important to a few people but I can understand why it's not exactly high priority at Samsungs.

The 7+ is launching next month on T-Mobile US with 3.2. The SGS2 currently runs 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5 depending on the market. We think a lot harder about this than Samsung does.

These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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Raistlin1 said:
I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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Lol hahghaa. That would be funny of they really are.

i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
ICS is around the corner..
Also..who here thinks that Steve Kondik uses a Galaxy Tab 10.1 as well?
thinking CM8 ? that will be a very very nice addition to the tab
me personally cant wait till ICS goes open source so that CM team can take it and start doing CM8
hoping that CM8 alpha comes in two month or so.. (assuming Google exposes ICS to the world by mid Oct)

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That's the same thought I had when I read his comment.

I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.

span_01 said:
I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.
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Actually the latest update KI1 (for the European GT10.1 3G) makes the GT10.1 much smoother then my Xoom wich has Android 3.2.1
Other then the app resize function, there is nothing new in 3.2 and i have never used this function.

Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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I think people should just enjoy their Tabs...
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Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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True, we all want the latest and greatest. I'm using a custom rom that has completely changed my experience with the tab. Enjoying this. . .I can wait.

Probably because they are really busy optimising 3.1 for GT 10.1v.

chlrbwls said:
It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
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They'll almost certainly be working on it but the devices you've listed will be released with 2.3.X, 3.2 and 3.2 respectively.
So Samsung clearly are devoting some resources to working on 3.2, albeit for other models of Tab.
It raises the possibility that the 3.2 update might be released around the same time as these new models of Tab, though it's obviously a matter of waiting and seeing.
nandihno said:
i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
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Whilst ICS is certainly a bigger update than 3.2, I don't feel we should have to justify missing out on one software update by hoping that we get the next one sooner.
Good after-sales support would've seen us running 3.2 already as well as receiving ICS, not one or the other.
And the fact that Samsung seem completely unconcerned about updating the Tab 10.1 to 3.2 must surely raise questions as to their commitment to bringing ICS to it in a timely fashion.

Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
So I would also imagine that since the carriers aren't involved in the WIFI model's update process that we will be seeing faster updates for the US WIFI model.

MMcCraryNJ said:
Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
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They may be making the hardware but the mark of a Nexus device is that Google handles the software in-house, Samsung quite possibly will have had minimal access to the code so far.
Equally, Google are supposed to be implementing a scheme whereby the larger, 'better' Android OEMs get advanced access to the source code of new Android versions in return for keeping their devices updated quickly and generally providing the best possible user experience for their Android devices.
So it is possible Samsung already have access to the ICS source code but, as I said, it's hard to be positive about ICS when Samsung seemingly can't be bothered bringing us a much smaller update.
MMcCraryNJ said:
I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
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The i9000 has had Gingerbread for a while now, yeah, though it was still a fair way behind other handsets in receiving the update - a number of HTCs got in there first if memory serves.
That said, as someone else already pointed out, Samsung have done a far better job of keeping the Galaxy S2 updated, so it seems that they are at least moving in the right direction.

Check out my post, its title Ipad 3, we are all dealing with this slow update process, apple is far ahead in the update department.
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Galaxy S2 confirmed get Android 4.0

Samsung Italy has reportedly confirmed which of the Korean company’s Android devices will receive an Ice Cream Sandwich update, with models such as the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 each supposedly in line for a 4.0 upgrade. The Italian arm of the firm listed the GSII and the Tab 10.1, HDBlog claims, along with the Galaxy Note, Galaxy Tab 8.9, Tab 7.7 and Tab 7.0 Plus as all being eligible for a tasty frozen treat. However, don’t expect it any time soon.
According to the report, the updates won’t begin until Q2 2012, potentially six months after Samsung’s Galaxy Nexus goes on sale. Samsung confirmed to us last night at the kick-off of the Galaxy Note European Tour that the oversized smartphone would get Android 4.0, as reported in our Galaxy Note vs Galaxy Nexus hands-on, but said that, since the company had been working closely with Google on ICS, they expected to beat competitors to the market with upgrades for existing devices.
(Source :http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-android-4-0-ics-updates-in-2012-reportedly-detailed-28191699/)

I hope, we won't have to wait that long...

Waiting 6m+ would be a joke in my opinion - the GS2 is the leading current Android phone in performance and sales, for it to take so long to get 4.0 makes the whole platform seem a bit weak seeing as by then we'll presumably be in the midst of hype building for iphone 5 which would a) have new features ics doesn't have and b) copy anything worthwhile from ics.
I don't believe extended Nexus exclusivity does either Google or Samsung any favours at all...

i don't like to wait.

i read somewhere that it wont get 4.0 until after the galaxy s3 is released.

me too think so. Galaxy S got gingerbread update only after S2 released. So.... I doubt it might be the bad wait more news coming soon...
But anyway v will get it wont v.
Or if v need it faster CM will always be there to help us
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I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.

pisculescu said:
I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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Just about everything. It doesn't bring many new features, but it optimizes the old ones and makes the whole experience better.

I'm eagerly waiting for ICS in my SGSII

You wont be waiting that long if you're a flash fan. No doubt there will be leaks etc before the official release.
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pisculescu said:
I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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For me, is the joysticks support. I have so many usb joysticks, but none of them are working right now on GingerBread.

Initially I heard ICS for S2 coming next year only, thats fine looking at time required to test stability but throwing the it in Q2 is ridiculous!
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For me, is the joysticks support. I have so many usb joysticks, but none of them are working right now on GingerBread.
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Me too! That feature is real dealbreaker imo.

drelite08 said:
You wont be waiting that long if you're a flash fan. No doubt there will be leaks etc before the official release.
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^This
Besides that, why should I wait for a rom that destroys the beauty of ICS with TouchWiz? I want the pure ICS-experience.
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I dont know why people always want to update to a newer version of android. Will my phone produce ice cream when i get an update. Im happy with what my phone can do at the moment i dont know whats the big deal. after this i think ill go for windows phone which looks more stableand quick.

Lost Monk said:
Initially I heard ICS for S2 coming next year only, thats fine looking at time required to test stability but throwing the it in Q2 is ridiculous!
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Won't Samsung have had ics to develop the galaxy nexus? If so wouldn't they have been developing the upgrades for their phones, negotiated as part of the deal to make the nexus phone?

I think galaxy S2 will be the first to receive the update before any other device, firstly Samsung and Google worked extremely closely on some of the software aspects of ICS namely the Camera app and the launcher itself, also the Galaxy nexus share some hardware components with the Galaxy S2.
Also lets face it the Galaxy nexus is underwhelming specs-wise except the Screen of course (Even though it's Pentile).

Don't forget that Samsung also want to sell a LOT of their nexus device and making it the only device in their range to have ics makes complete business sense. They've sold lots of sgs2 already, time for the nexus.
I know it may be a little frustrating for us, but as someone has already said, we'll get it much earlier via a leaked ROM.
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Q2 2012? F**k me...

What are people doing with their phones to make them slow and desperately need ICS? Am I missing a free hookers and drugs app?

I agree we will get within weeks of the launch whether it be from Samsung or an AOSP ROM doesn't bother me because the one main gripe I have with AOSP ROM's is the lack of hardware acceleration and the absolutely terrible camera app, Samsung's Touchwiz is hardware accelerated which is why it is so smooth.
It does make perfect business sense to delay ICS for the GS2 but people don't buy the "Google Phone" because of its specifications they buy it because its the "Google Phone" the one advantage of doing this is the quick updates, other than that there are far better devices, the Galaxy Nexus isn't even released yet and its already outclassed by devices such as ours that have been out for over 6 months.
ICS and the screen are the only saving graces of the Galaxy Nexus. needless to say it will still sell extremely well because as I mentioned its the "Google Phone".

Android 4.0 ICS came to Galaxy S2[Update - Europe & Asia got the update ]

Finally samsung reveled
"We know you have been waiting and we're thrilled today to announce that we'll start serving Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich to GALAXY Note and GALAXY S II in the first quarter of 2012.
In addition, other ICS-upgradable GALAXY devices include GALAXY S II LTE, GALAXY R, GALAXY Tab 10.1, GALAXY Tab 8.9, GALAXY Tab 7.7 and GALAXY Tab 7.0 Plus.
Separate announcements on details of the OS update will be made soon, so stay with us on our Facebook & Twitter communities for more updates!"
http://www.facebook.com/notes/samsu...ch-upgrade-for-galaxy-devices/328795820483403
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Europe and Asia got the much anticipated ICS update .

Was just about to post this after seeing their tweet. not long

Laird_Attwood said:
Was just about to post this after seeing their tweet. not long
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Its not far ..! Also Samsung is improving when it comes to Updates .!

anshmiester78900 said:
Its not far ..! Also Samsung is improving when it comes to Updates .!
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Great work by sammy actually!! its just a matter of time before we get the leaks....

I am looking forward to this like the rest of us. However we need to take into account that delays (ATT i897 Gingerbread) aren't necessarily Samsungs fault. Quite often it is the carrier that causes the delays. So for those that are on ATT for example may have to wait longer then the rest of the world. Hopefully this is not the case.

Actual news came from. ...
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=8894

This could still be 3 months away though, that's ages!!

Yup, Q1 is January to March. Who knows we might get it on the 31st of March

At least samsung is quicker than lg, it took them a whole year to update the optimius 2x from froyo to gingerbread. Really looking forward to ICS, hopefully it will land late January early February. I'm sure we'll have CM9 sometime in January.
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marcadam said:
At least samsung is quicker than lg, it took them a whole year to update the optimius 2x from froyo to gingerbread. Really looking forward to ICS, hopefully it will land late January early February. I'm sure we'll have CM9 sometime in January.
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+1. I was shocked when I read about the Gingerbread update for the O2X being released recently. I assumed all along it had Gingerbread. Shame on you, LG!

Speaking as someone who had to wait well over a year before my last phone *finally* got freaking Froyo (and was told it was never getting Gingerbread) this is a welcome and ambitious announcement. Here's to hoping Docomo can get on the same page as quickly as Samsung.

Looking forward to this - but I am still a noob enjoying all the custom roms the devs have to offer.

t0ph0id said:
This could still be 3 months away though, that's ages!!
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Yeah, that's ages,but be honest... do you REALLY need this update? I bet your phone works perfectly and you still would be absolutely happy even if ICS didn't exist yet.

Seeing as we're already getting leaks, I would be surprised if the official ROM for international users would take that long to come out.

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Seeing as we're already getting leaks, I would be surprised if the official ROM for international users would take that long to come out.
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Why do you think that? The current status rather clearly points to a february/march release.
Current leaks are unstable, so probably a month more development for decent stability, then comes a period of wider testing (all different carriers and Samsung sales companies in different countries), probably some certifications made in parallell as well. Now we're in end of january or later...
Then some bug fixes once again after these tests. And some additional tests of course after these fixes.
I cannot see any possibility for an official release before mid-february, probably a bit later in March.
But of course, the leaks in january used for wider tests might be pretty good for all-day use, so if you don't require official releases you don't have to wait that long.

What a clever way of "stealing" us 3 months...

tjtj4444 said:
Why do you think that? The current status rather clearly points to a february/march release.
Current leaks are unstable, so probably a month more development for decent stability, then comes a period of wider testing (all different carriers and Samsung sales companies in different countries), probably some certifications made in parallell as well. Now we're in end of january or later...
Then some bug fixes once again after these tests. And some additional tests of course after these fixes.
I cannot see any possibility for an official release before mid-february, probably a bit later in March.
But of course, the leaks in january used for wider tests might be pretty good for all-day use, so if you don't require official releases you don't have to wait that long.
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Because its not like the devs on here that do these things on their free time - the developers at Samsung working on the port are paid to do so, its their job, and they have to work on it several hours a day, every day.
But I might be an optimist. In any case, I'm sure a good enough leak will come along sooner than expected that is beneficial to the devs.

titooo7 said:
Yeah, that's ages,but be honest... do you REALLY need this update? I bet your phone works perfectly and you still would be absolutely happy even if ICS didn't exist yet.
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Agree - my SGSII is rooted so I got rid of all bloat-ware.
It's fast and battery is good

They say Q1 now, but if we look back at the updates they have done before they relese a update, that breaks something, then pull it again work on it for a month or 3 before releasing it again...
But that have ofc more been a kies problem then a update problem. Can remember when i had the Galaxy S and that got the GB update, that left the users in download mode, when updating over kies...

Samsung said:
Ice Cream Sandwich brings an entirely new look and feel to Android. It has a redesigned user interface with improved multi-tasking, notifications, Wi-Fi hotspot, NFC support and a full Web browsing experience. Ice Cream Sandwich also features a new People App which lets users browse pictures, messages and social network updates from friends, family and co-workers.
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Does this mean that the leaks are non-indicative of the actual update, and we will indeed get ICS launcher/TW5?

Official ICS slated for a Q1 2012 release !

Samsung has cemented its plans for the roll-out of Ice Cream Sandwich, and it looks likely to land on most of its top drawer Android devices. This (unsurprisingly) includes the Galaxy S II, its LTE variant, the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy R and whole range of Samsung tabs, from the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus to the Galaxy Tab 10.1. The update is penned to arrive first on both the Galaxy S II and Note in Q1 2012, with other devices following, although the Korean giant says that separate announcements will be made on the finer points -- depending on the "market situation and carriers' requirements". Source: Engadget
I for one, cannot wait for this - BUT to be honest, I am actually looking forward for a pure AOSP ROM of ICS on the Tab 10.1

jackie_jagger said:
Samsung has cemented its plans for the roll-out of Ice Cream Sandwich, and it looks likely to land on most of its top drawer Android devices. This (unsurprisingly) includes the Galaxy S II, its LTE variant, the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy R and whole range of Samsung tabs, from the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus to the Galaxy Tab 10.1. The update is penned to arrive first on both the Galaxy S II and Note in Q1 2012, with other devices following, although the Korean giant says that separate announcements will be made on the finer points -- depending on the "market situation and carriers' requirements". Source: Engadget
I for one, cannot wait for this - BUT to be honest, I am actually looking forward for a pure AOSP ROM of ICS on the Tab 10.1
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From what they've implied, Touchwiz will mainly be support software for better hardware. It will fade as a UI.

waiting for it badly

I hope they roll out OTA a bit quicker than they've managed with 3.2.. Sure, we are many who know how to download a release to flash with odin, but that's still kind of a bother compared to just accepting an OTA ;-)

Honestly, with CM9 coming to the GT10.1, I really don't care about what Samsung is pushing (except, of course, the improvements it may bring to custom ROMs...).

As someone who owned two Samsung supported phones before my Nexus S (Moment and Epic 4G) how is Samsung with tablet support? My experience with them for phone support is that they have no clue what they are doing with software, always late with deadlines, and what they do send out is lackluster. Hence I grabbed a Nexus S since Google supports that.. I took a gamble with the tab..

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As someone who owned two Samsung supported phones before my Nexus S (Moment and Epic 4G) how is Samsung with tablet support? My experience with them for phone support is that they have no clue what they are doing with software, always late with deadlines, and what they do send out is lackluster. Hence I grabbed a Nexus S since Google supports that.. I took a gamble with the tab..
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They're getting the hang of the software thing, but they also add quite a bit of good stuff to their devices that you can't see. (codecs, drivers, etc...)
Hopefully what that guy ^ said is true and they don't focus on the UI at all this time.

So we will be getting ics after march as galaxy s2 and galaxy note will get it the first 3 months and only after that to the other devices ie galaxy tab
So my bet is still with cm9
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Honestly, with CM9 coming to the GT10.1, I really don't care about what Samsung is pushing (except, of course, the improvements it may bring to custom ROMs...).
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I am completely with you on this one ! I am more excited about the AOSP ROM rather than the Samsung TouchWiz stuff !

Well the promise is up to q1 let see...
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Honestly, with CM9 coming to the GT10.1, I really don't care about what Samsung is pushing (except, of course, the improvements it may bring to custom ROMs...).
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I would agree. We all know that wee gonna be running custom roms on it anyway.
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Well the promise is up to q1 let see...
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I'm with you here. The support on the Galaxy S I had was lackluster, if it wasn't for custom roms I never would have kept that phone long.
Im waiting for the ICS ROMS for our tabs. I just got a beta ICS on my Mytouch and I'm in love.

ICS Official Release

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/0...e+(droid+life)&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
No word of when of when other than this year...

Sounds Good..
ill press "thanks" for a Good Info...

ICS was annonced already for Tab 10.1 on Q1, march 15Th is pretty much in Q1

Kayak83 said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/0...e+(droid+life)&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
No word of when of when other than this year...
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They refer to Verizon. What about WiFi-only GT 10.1 devices? ICS this yes? LOL

The Verizon version will have camera drivers which are basically all that is lacking from making CM9 perfect.

I think it´s sad that the mobile providers are this slow pushing new software to their customers. Google already moved on to Jellybean :-/

Still no ICS? Bahhhh
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it's done when it's done...
I'm not sure whether it's worth to wait for. Honeycomb still fits my needs...
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from Samsung's facebook page:
Samsung offers Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade for GALAXY S II
We're thrilled to announce that Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich will be served to GALAXY S II users in the European countries including Poland, Hungary and Sweden, as well as Korea today, and gradually roll out to other markets.
ICS for GALAXY Note, GALAXY S II LTE, GALAXY Tab 8.9 and 10.1 will follow soon.
In addition, we'll also offer Android 2.3 Gingerbread firmware upgrades for GALAXY S, GALAXY Tab 7", GALAXY S Plus, GALAXY S SCL (Super Clear LCD) and GALAXY W from end March. The firmware upgrades for GALAXY S, for example, include Face Unlock, Snapshot, Photo Editor, and others.
The availability and scheduling of the software update and specific models upgradeable to Android 4.0 will vary by market and wireless carriers' requirements.
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Looks like it's right around the corner.

How soon is soon?

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How soon is soon?
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You know.........Soon
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may soon be a day, a week, 2 weeks, a month, two months, but referred to Eternity could be a year or two .......

I wonder if they'll go through the release with SGSII for a few weeks, then roll out other devices.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/sams...dwich-upgrade-for-galaxy-s-ii/390405030989148

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https://www.facebook.com/notes/sams...dwich-upgrade-for-galaxy-s-ii/390405030989148
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From FB
"ICS for GALAXY Note, GALAXY S II LTE, GALAXY Tab 8.9 and 10.1 will follow soon."
As a former Fascinate owner, hearing Samsung say "soon" brings back some bad, bad memories!

Anyone seen a preview of the GT 10.1 ICS rom looks ?

No I'll bet it'll be laggy as hell though!
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No I'll bet it'll be laggy as hell though!
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The only good thing about the official ICS ROM will be camera drivers for CM9.
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Euroman28 said:
Anyone seen a preview of the GT 10.1 ICS rom looks ?
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Chances are it'll look exactly like 3.2, but with ICS features like face unlock and swipe away recent apps tucked away.

Euroman28 said:
Anyone seen a preview of the GT 10.1 ICS rom looks ?
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Here is one for the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1, my guess is it will look the same: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Reena6Aiihw