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I've just realized that I keep missing calls because it seems to me that the Touch HD takes entirely too long to wake up on an incoming call.
Example:
I called my phone, it rang TWO times before the phone started to wake up, by the time I was able to answer it, it was too late.
Anyway to speed up the waking of this phone on incoming calls. I can't have all these delays. Or is there a way to make it ring LONGER (as a workaround) before going to voicemail?
Does having the phone locked increase the time it takes to wake it up?
Question 2:
It seems like just picking up my phone from my desk answers it. That's no good, sometimes I want to pick it up to look the the caller id but it auto answers upon picking up the phone off my desk. Can this be disabled?
derrickonline said:
I've just realized that I keep missing calls because it seems to me that the Touch HD takes entirely too long to wake up on an incoming call.
Example:
I called my phone, it rang TWO times before the phone started to wake up, by the time I was able to answer it, it was too late.
Anyway to speed up the waking of this phone on incoming calls. I can't have all these delays. Or is there a way to make it ring LONGER (as a workaround) before going to voicemail?
Does having the phone locked increase the time it takes to wake it up?
Question 2:
It seems like just picking up my phone from my desk answers it. That's no good, sometimes I want to pick it up to look the the caller id but it auto answers upon picking up the phone off my desk. Can this be disabled?
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Try using 3rd party apps like 'Advanced Config', 'HD Tweak' and 'SKTools' to tweak to optimise your HD performance.
I know HD Tweak has the option to enable or disable ring delay for incoming calls
I have tweak HD now. So let me ask you, why would anyone want a ring delay in the first place?
I hate how long it takes to answer a call. Sometimes i answer on the first ring and the caller says "what took you so long?".
What's even worse is, if the phone is doing something and someone rings, i can press the answer button all i like but nothing happens...the phone seems to clogged up with other tasks. This may just be the ROM though, i'm about to flash the new Touch of HD rom so i'll see how it goes.
Gat, I'm pretty sure it's a power issue. Windows Mobile is slow and clunky especially on a 528Mhz processor. Can't wait for tegra or snapdragon. I don't think another rom will help you.
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I have tweak HD now. So let me ask you, why would anyone want a ring delay in the first place?
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Personally I don't why, but I can't answer for everyone!
I hate how long it takes to answer a call. Sometimes i answer on the first ring and the caller says "what took you so long?".
What's even worse is, if the phone is doing something and someone rings, i can press the answer button all i like but nothing happens...the phone seems to clogged up with other tasks. This may just be the ROM though, i'm about to flash the new Touch of HD rom so i'll see how it goes.
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Try using Dutty's Xtreme V1.8 ROM, link below. I haven't experienced any delays since I started using this ROM. May be a coincidence, but worth a try!
With Dutty's V1.8 rom it takes half-a-ring before the screen wakes up, and then a whole ring on silent before it makes any sound. So 1 1/2 rings before I know some-one is calling.
Guys, don't. This is a issue and fixed by HTC, there's a official patch for this problem: htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=all
fixed my equal problems at once!
The delay is caused by the HTC dialer and all the stuff it needs to load on an incomming call.
If it is a serious problem for you, use HD tweak to change the phone dialer back to WM6. This will give you instant ring on incomming call, but you will lose some features provided by the HTC dialer such as volume control during call, bluetooth notification on top bar,video calling and possibly mute on face down.
If you don't want to use HD Tweak the reg key is
HKLM\security\phone\skin_enabled
Option is 0 (disabled) 1 (enabled)
Soft reset to make the changes.
ardsar said:
The delay is caused by the HTC dialer and all the stuff it needs to load on an incomming call.
If it is a serious problem for you, use HD tweak to change the phone dialer back to WM6. This will give you instant ring on incomming call, but you will lose some features provided by the HTC dialer such as volume control during call, bluetooth notification on top bar,video calling and possibly mute on face down.
If you don't want to use HD Tweak the reg key is
HKLM\security\phone\skin_enabled
Option is 0 (disabled) 1 (enabled)
Soft reset to make the changes.
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Hi, I tried this from HDTweak but it did not seem to make a difference. The phone still takes about 1.5 rings before it starts to ring itself. I have lost the bluetooth icon.
Hmmm - I think I will just go back to the HTC dialer
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Sorry
This is a issue and fixed by HTC, there's a official patch for this problem: htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=all
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bazzxdahtc, I can't find the patch for this issue under your link
This one should work: http://www.htc.com/europe/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=all
Look for:
- Hot fix for improving the on-screen slider feature for answering calls
and
- Hot fix to enhance response time for HTC Touch HD
These two made my HD work a lot better then before! I used to miss calls often due to the lag in answering incoming calls.
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This one should work: http://www.htc.com/europe/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=all
Look for:
- Hot fix for improving the on-screen slider feature for answering calls
and
- Hot fix to enhance response time for HTC Touch HD
These two made my HD work a lot better then before! I used to miss calls often due to the lag in answering incoming calls.
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These 2 fixes have nothing to do with the famous 2 ring delay. The response time improvement was to solve the latency when using the keyboard - ie sometimes it would appear to freeze. The second fix is for the slider only.
Suggest you guys do a bit of searching as there are a lot of threads relating to this famous 2 ring delay with wm6. The first incomming call always seems to take a bit longer after the phone has been switched off or soft reset - did you try and see what the delay is several times? Appologies that using the wm6 dialer did not work for you - it certainly does for me and many others.
Just trying to help...
I run stock ROM(1.14.404.3(V2227)NLD)+regular updates/patches and this works on my device, you doubt my experiences?
Have you actually tried these yourself? Or are you just reasoning from your cooked ROM...
Suggest you stay nice to everyone.
No i dont doubt your experience apart from the fact that htc fixes are not specific to the 2 ring delay. It also has nothing to do with the fact im using non stock rom .i applied these tweeks to the standard rom before flashing my device. if you do a search for 2 ring deLay, you will see that this is a common problem. Also other sites such as www.pocketshield.netserver01.com/readme.aspx make reference to this exact problem
I'm only tryin to help, and ive spent a lot of my time investigating this issue.
Just a quick thought.. do you have an MP3 assigned as ringtone? I recently added an MP3 ringtone and suddenly it took a lot longer before the phone started ringing..
Changed it back to one of the standard tones and it was much faster.
I agree about the MP3 issue.
I often see my Touch HD waking up to handle the call 1-2 seconds before I hear the ringtone. As soon as the dialler skin is up (or S2U2 application) then I am able to answer the call without the MP3 ring kicking in.
Before I use S2U2, Pocketshiel and Inesoft programs in the same time..it takes at least 4 seconds to starts ring. but now only S2U2 its only 1 sec.
Guys I'm using 1.19.831 stock ROM, applied ONLY Slider hotfix from HTC, ringing with mp3 file (around 900kb size) and do these tweaks in HDtweak and Advanced Config 3.3:
Incoming ring delay = no;
Battery icon in phone menu = no;
Filesystem cache: enabled
Filesystem cache size: 8 mb;
File system filter chace: 131072 sectors;
Glyph cahce: 64 kb;
The delay is around 1.5 ring BEFORE it start ringing. 1 ring before display answer slider. I'm not 100% sure if all of above settings have any connection with the problem, but with these one --> a whole 1 ring delay is gone away...
Please help save a life, I'm going to jump off the nearest bridge if my wifes phone wakes me out of a dead sleep vibrating on full charge again. everynight the same thing. Is there anyway to stop it on a stock eclair phone? I could root it but she won't let me change the rom. anyway to do it on the stock system?
How about plugging it in a different room than the one you are sleeping in.
Dude, you must be a light sleeper if the vibration wakes you. I used to get woken up by the sound clip it played, so I renamed the file and no more sound!
But to stop it from vibrating? I don't think there's a way to do that other than tell your wife not to put the phone on vibrate! (what's with women and vibrate? lol)
There's an app in the Market called Silent Toggle Widget. It allows a full silent mode... but now that I think of it, I think Eclair offers full silence already. And I don't know whether it would work anyway.
I'm in the same boat as you. That vibrate would wake me up every damn night. I finally just got in the habit of charging to 100% when I get home, then plugging it in in the bedroom before I brush my teeth. Now the vibrate happens before I get into bed. I know it's not a good solution, but it's the best I've found.
I just now noticed in my Sound settings that there's a "Vibrate" selection that has the option "Never". Does Eclair have that? Maybe that would do it?
Good luck! I feel your pain.
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Dude, you must be a light sleeper if the vibration wakes you. I used to get woken up by the sound clip it played, so I renamed the file and no more sound!
But to stop it from vibrating? I don't think there's a way to do that other than tell your wife not to put the phone on vibrate! (what's with women and vibrate? lol)
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trust me the vibrate is loud, I could have her put it on sound, not an issue, but where is the sound file and how do I get rid of it? assume I would need to root to do that?
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How about plugging it in a different room than the one you are sleeping in.
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you must not be married
is it because it's sitting on a nightstand or dresser? maybe set a sock or something under it.
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There's an app in the Market called Silent Toggle Widget. It allows a full silent mode... but now that I think of it, I think Eclair offers full silence already. And I don't know whether it would work anyway.
I'm in the same boat as you. That vibrate would wake me up every damn night. I finally just got in the habit of charging to 100% when I get home, then plugging it in in the bedroom before I brush my teeth. Now the vibrate happens before I get into bed. I know it's not a good solution, but it's the best I've found.
I just now noticed in my Sound settings that there's a "Vibrate" selection that has the option "Never". Does Eclair have that? Maybe that would do it?
Good luck! I feel your pain.
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that may be an option if I can get her to remember that. but then it would never make any vibration if she forgets to change it. thats the only bad thing.
I've noticed my phone always starts to ring at where I set the volume to and then escalates to be very loud after a few seconds. I didnt see any settings to change this. Is this happening to anybody else?
Is it in your pocket when it does that?
I noticed in the HTC Sense demo video it says if it is in your pocket or purse it will ring loud so you can hear it. I think it has to do with proximity and light sources. If i have it sitting out, it will ring quietly, but it is always loud in my pocket.
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Is it in your pocket when it does that?
I noticed in the HTC Sense demo video it says if it is in your pocket or purse it will ring loud so you can hear it. I think it has to do with proximity and light sources. If i have it sitting out, it will ring quietly, but it is always loud in my pocket.
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Actually yeah. Thats usually when it gets loud. I dont really like that as it gets super loud sometimes. Why wouldnt they have a setting for this?
Any news on this? Because I also find it quite annoying that the ringer is so loud even when I'm sitting in the quiet office...
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Any news on this? Because I also find it quite annoying that the ringer is so loud even when I'm sitting in the quiet office...
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I have the same issue! It happens on ALL Sense ROM's. If I am running AOSP (CM6 or MIUI) it is not an issue. Are there any ways to disable this setting if it is supposed to do so? Mine is on my belt in a case and when I'm in the office it rings way too loud. If the phone is on my desk it rings as I have the volume set.
Actually I found you can disable the loud ringer in settings really easy
Settings --> Sound --> Pocket mode
There's no way to adjust the volume though,
Apparently the Shift has the same issue as my EVO or as Sprint would call it..."feature".
http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=669629#post669629
You would think there was an app out there to override this.
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Actually I found you can disable the loud ringer in settings really easy
Settings --> Sound --> Pocket mode
There's no way to adjust the volume though,
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What device/ROM are you running? There is no setting for Pocket mode under settings -> sound on the stock EVO Shift 4G (at least not on mine). Anyone else find this?
I have a Desire Z with the original ROM (Froyo + Sense)
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I have a Desire Z with the original ROM (Froyo + Sense)
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that setting dont apply to shift
Did a complete wipe 2x using Amon Ra Recovery 2.3 and then flashed a stock image file from HBOOT and updated WiMAX, PRI & NV Radio. The issue was not present on the stock ROM. Wiped the stock ROM and flashed Myn's RLS5.....no more issues. Something was corrupt and enabled the sensor to trigger ring loud (when covered or senses low light) as it is designed to do on the Shift. The EVO does not have Pocket Mode in settings. Whatever the cause.....it is now resolved!
I sent a tweet in the direction of @htc about this yesterday, but they haven't answered. Hopefully we get an update that gives us a 2.x release of sense, not this weird "you have some of the features of new sense but not the whole package." The other feature that I know is there is the one where you can flip the phone over to silence the ring, and in fact, BOTH features are undocumented - the user manual for the shift doesn't mention declining a call by flipping the phone OR the word pocket except in warnings about where not to keep it.
I don't have any hope of a satisfactory answer, though, because in an earlier answer to someone about bugs, they said to submit something at htc.com/support and make sure to mark it a bug report - you can't do that anywhere on the email form and the other two options for support aren't things you "submit." The two times I've contacted them by email were also tremendous disappointments, so... there you go.
Tried to second your post on HTC's support forum but their forum software is misconfigured and my email server is rejecting their mail because it is not a fully-qualified hostname. Meh. Like you, I don't hold out enough hope of a fix to bother with the registration process.
You mentioned flip to silence, but there is actually a setting on the Evo Shift 4G to silence the ringtone when the phone is moved. It's under settings - sounds, and it is "quiet ring on pickup". Since the action of flipping the phone involves moving it, I wonder if you are seeing that setting working when you flip your phone over. My phone stops ringing (if it's not in a pocket) when I pick it up off the table. It doesn't decline the call, it just stops the ringer.
Edit: eh, I made an allowance on my mail server so HTC's misconfigured SMTP server could send my activation message and let me register.
By the way, I posted a workaround on Android Central that works for the way I use the phone. I created a silent ringtone. Then I set the phone to vibrate as well. So in my pocket I feel/hear the vibration but I don't get the ridiculously-loud rings. But I can hear my notifications at normal volume. When the phone is on my desk, the vibration and screen lighting up are enough of an alert for me. Obviously this won't work if you ever keep the phone in a bag or somewhere that you can't hear or feel the vibration, but it works for me as a pocket user.
Three ticks up from silenced on the volume rocker:
Picking the phone up off my desk quiets the ring, flipping it silences the ring. I wonder if turning off quiet ring on pickup will turn off flip to silence... might as well try it.
aaand no it doesn't. Pickup didn't quiet (per the setting now being off) but flip still did silence the ring.
Interesting note: flip-to-silence is actually a silencer; it doesn't decline the call immediately.
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/112/t/9935.aspx
For anyone else that wants to weigh in on the issue on the official HTC support forum. Maybe they won't ignore us too hard.
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Three ticks up from silenced on the volume rocker:
Picking the phone up off my desk quiets the ring, flipping it silences the ring. I wonder if turning off quiet ring on pickup will turn off flip to silence... might as well try it.
aaand no it doesn't. Pickup didn't quiet (per the setting now being off) but flip still did silence the ring.
Interesting note: flip-to-silence is actually a silencer; it doesn't decline the call immediately.
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Ok, makes sense - since I use a silent ringtone, the "quiet" and "silent" are the same to me, LOL. But yes, it doesn't decline the call.
I actually liked the Touch Pro2 where flipping during a call would turn on the speakerphone. Why can't they keep good features like that instead of forcing this new stuff down our throats with no option to turn it off.
Bump/Update: After two tweets on the issue and an entire week of the post I made sitting on the HTC forums, I have had enough of being ignored and went to the email support option.
I'm not resetting my phone again, so I instead borrowed the New Issue text from Google Code project pages and sent steps to duplicate.
Anybody else that might have this problem is welcome to weigh in; I gave links to this thread and the one over on Android Central in my forum post on HTC, which is linked in the support message I sent.
Another update: Today I received my response; I don't have to reset my phone (yet) and my concern is being escalated to whatever the next level of CS is called.
They say escalated department is first-come, first-served, so it may be a while before I know more.
The problem is that HTC sees this as a feature, not a bug. They market this as a way to hear your phone when it's in a bag. While it makes perfect sense to us end-users to have an option to turn this off, from a lab testing standpoint it's not a priority because the function works as designed. If HTC had really thought this through, they should realize that there are some things phones should never do, and ringing at maximum volume unless specifically directed by the user is one of them.
The funny thing is that I'd like almost the exact opposite behavior. I'd prefer the phone to ring (quietly) on my desk, and automatically switch to vibrate when it's in my pocket (as determined by the prox sensor). But people who carry their phones in bags or purses wouldn't benefit from this option. Everybody's needs are different; HTC just determined what they think is the most common scenario and coded Sense that way. I have to give them credit for thinking up the idea, but since it doesn't work for everyone it should be more flexible.
Thanks for taking the time to bring this to their attention. It may well be that a couple of generations of phones from now we'll start seeing more options in these settings, which would be fantastic.
Update: HTC has been calling me at work, once yesterday once today. I have not been at work this week but will be in tomorrow; they gave me a number to call if I wanted to get in touch with them sooner. I will be calling them back as soon as I'm done with my planned tasks tomorrow (assuming they haven't called me first).
Here's hoping news about when we get an update that stops this nonsense comes swiftly!
I am told when charging of the phone is complete it vibrates for a few seconds. Anyone know how to turn this off as no-doubt it will waken me?
Thanks.
Not only that, but it makes a stupidly loud pinging noise, too. It woke me up at 3am this morning. I can't find anything in the settings to turn it off.
Anyone?
I don't know why Samsung and LG thinks this is useful.
i dont wake up for anything!! i havent noticed this once yet. does it only ping/vibrate when you are charging when the phone is on? or when it off also?
Only when it's on. I think that the pinging noise is controlled by the System volume slider in the settings menu, I had it up to full which is probably what caused it to wake me. I've put it down to about 2 now but am yet to test to see if it's quieter.
I can't find anything to turn off the vibration though.
I'm yet to get my phone, so can't check, but have you checked in the sound settings? There's apparently an option for Vibration if I'm understanding page 129 of the manual.
" Vibration: Set when the device will vibrate for various events"
I'm hoping the fully charged event is one of these.
OK, so the ping isn't controlled by System, it's controlled by Notifications. Which is really stupid because if you turn the volume down on that how are you supposed to hear when you've got a text message?
Disabling 'Haptic Feedback' in the Sounds menu seems to disable the vibration part of the notification. It also disables vibration on all other UI interactions, though.
Anyone got a solution to this really annoying problem?
do you really have to have your phone so close to you when you sleep???
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Anyone got a solution to this really annoying problem?
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If you can try and get me something to go on, I can perhaps try to find out what is causing this vibration...
I am guessing it comes from the framework...
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do you really have to have your phone so close to you when you sleep???
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Yes, I use it as my alarm clock when I am home and travelling.
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If you can try and get me something to go on, I can perhaps try to find out what is causing this vibration...
I am guessing it comes from the framework...
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I don't have anything to go on other than that the phone makes a loud beep two times and vibrates when charged.
I mentioned it in one of previous topics covering this problem and I will mention it once again.
SGS i9000 had the same problem in one of the first firmwares. Vibrations and sounds when battery charged have disappeared starting from (I think) one of the first Froyo updates from Samsung.
Samsung will hopefully address this problem sooner or later.
I had autostarts purchased, from back when I had to worry about what was running. Looking it seems on plugging the phone to usb or charger it launches "Mtp application" guess that would be a good place to start.
On a slightly different note. Once the phone is fully charged, it stars to drain again. Is there an alarm clock app that keeps the phone around 98% then starts charging again 30 mins before the alarm is due?
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OK, so the ping isn't controlled by System, it's controlled by Notifications. Which is really stupid because if you turn the volume down on that how are you supposed to hear when you've got a text message?
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But doesn't you change the sms sound from the sms app? Thats how it works usually in Androids. The notification sound is for any other notifications, but you can change different for the sms sound. Thats how it works in Nexus S at least. Same for the gmail app also.
I guess this is in services.jar
I will take a look shortly.
...uurm...dunno if this is what you guys want but
Have your mobile on silent. (Alarms will ring in silent mode)
Go to settings - sound - vibration - Only when not in silent mode
It won't vibrate nor make a sound whilst your asleep
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...uurm...dunno if this is what you guys want but
Have your mobile on silent. (Alarms will ring in silent mode)
Go to settings - sound - vibration - Only when not in silent mode
It won't vibrate nor make a sound whilst your asleep
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So at least it works in that way. Thats how my phone is always at night. Good to know, my phone will come in about 1 or 2 weeks.
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I guess this is in services.jar
I will take a look shortly.
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Please. I would be more than happy to send a donation!
There might be a solution if you are rooted...
In the folder /system/media/audio/ui there's a file called Charger_Connection.ogg and you can rename that to Charger_Connection.ogg.bak (personally I use adb and the 'mv' command, Root Explorer should work fine too).
Plugging in the USB cable now doesn't make a noise, just waiting to see what happens when it's fully charged...!
UPDATE: Nope, it uses a different noise... still looking...
Hey guys this thing thats been happening to me is absulotely mind boggling and if anyone can resolve this it would be greatly appreciated. it bugs me like theres no tomorrow.
so heres the issue.
i have a samsung galaxy s4 with all the latest updates provided Android Version 4.2.2
when im travelling along in the car or even randomly seated i would receive a call or even make a call and place my phone on loudspeaker now the funny thing here is that the phone after maybe 10-20 seconds will automatically switch back to normal speaker and it annoys me so i have to put it back on loudspeaker mode
ive had the occasional scene where it still showed that loudspeaker was activated but the caller was coming through the normal speaker so it forces me to tap loudspeaker to de-activate it and then tap it again to activate only to realise not long after it automatically switched back to the normal speaker all over again.
NOTE: the phone is laying flat on my lap or standing infront of me.
has anyone had this issue before and is there some sort of fix for it
PLEASE HELPPP !!!
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Hey guys this thing thats been happening to me is absulotely mind boggling and if anyone can resolve this it would be greatly appreciated. it bugs me like theres no tomorrow.
so heres the issue.
i have a samsung galaxy s4 with all the latest updates provided Android Version 4.2.2
when im travelling along in the car or even randomly seated i would receive a call or even make a call and place my phone on loudspeaker now the funny thing here is that the phone after maybe 10-20 seconds will automatically switch back to normal speaker and it annoys me so i have to put it back on loudspeaker mode
ive had the occasional scene where it still showed that loudspeaker was activated but the caller was coming through the normal speaker so it forces me to tap loudspeaker to de-activate it and then tap it again to activate only to realise not long after it automatically switched back to the normal speaker all over again.
NOTE: the phone is laying flat on my lap or standing infront of me.
has anyone had this issue before and is there some sort of fix for it
PLEASE HELPPP !!!
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Two thinks u can try if u have had a OTA update and that time if u did not do reset do it now hopefully all issues will be sorted out
2nd try to enable / disable driving mode as and when u use or not in use
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So I definitely checked to see if driving mode was on or not and I tried it still same issue so my next question how do I do the ota update what necessary
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So I have found that the only way I can get the loudspeaker to stay on is too keep the screen on after a few fiddling here in there I need to know how to force screen on when it on loudspeaker
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