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because we have TCPMP, WiMP, and can code anything we want to use easily..
want internet radio? shoutcast works fine.
want something exotic? build it, or pay someone to. anything can be done.
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TCPMP can stream music/video from any source YOU wish, not controlled by drm. For instance Ive been nicely watching episodes of the simpsons on the train to uni most days, free of charge (I have the DVDs already).
Unless your network provider has a flat rate data service you will pay SHEDLOADS for the streaming data from rapsody anyway?! Invest in a 2GB SD card and go nuts!
We have the freedom on here to develop ANY application we wish, with the expertise here we could easily have an app like that but unless there is a diare need for it i doubt we will see it.
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The Celestial Jukebox in my pocket. My dream. Why can't it be on my 3G WM5 device as well?
http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/27/nokia-and-real-add-rhapsody-to-the-n800/
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You do know that you can use The Orb to stream any music from your PC? Also does video and you can view any pictures you have. Best of all it's FREE
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AT&T (cingular) just signed a deal to start giving free access to "qualifying subscribers" of Napster's content. The bad - you have to buy a blackjack. The good - it's set to work for WM5 so maybe they'll make a version that works with the TyTN?
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2108029,00.asp
Only solution left:
Buy an n800.
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No, that's very misleading of Cingular. There's still no way to play streaming tracks on your mobile. Cingular's stupid service just lets you purchase tracks from napster or yahoo using your phone. The most pointless thing ever. Its nothing more than a cross promotional scheme.
The subscription music model can and will work. It will eventually dominate download services. But it can only happen when you can access and play the library from portable devices. 3G is here and yet this isn't happening. Its ridiculous.
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Maybe it wont be streaming but 3G is pretty fast for DLin a song (should be downloaded much quicker then a minute) and they're GIVING you unlimited service free for at least a year. Clearly it's not as nice but it's still not too shabby either (especially if you can DL over wifi if available!)
well for now i guess all you can do is get a bittorrent client for your phone, download any file/album you want without any DRM.
i don't see any problems with that..
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How about this:
http://www.mercora.com/m/
Just curious.
Many "unlimited" data plans still have some type of monthly cap (e.g. 5GB) that many people are not aware of, and if you go over that cap, they can terminate your data plan without notice. Has this happened to anybody?
Here are some baseline data usage traffic that I've measured:
-refreshing CNN rss hub containing 10 headlines: 8KB
-updating 8 cities in touchflo weather: 17KB
-launching opera to google homepage: 20KB
-activate send/receive for one new email: 26KB
-launching factory youtube player: 240KB
-opening youtube homepage via opera: 324KB
-using opera to get to yahoo mail inbox: 360KB
-launching google maps and playing around for about 2 minutes (panned around, opened street view, opened satellite view, got directions once): total ~1024KB = ~1MB
-playing a 5 minute video using factory youtube player: 20767KB = ~20.3MB
So, data usage can really add up if you use it everyday. Using about 170MB a day adds up to 5GB in a month. How much data are you guys using per day or month?
i have a 200MB plan and the last to month i used about 20-30mb each ^^ didnt happen to use it much
imo its almost impossible to get 5gb ^^ i hardly get hsdpa (not even 3G) so its kinda crap with my phone.. 200mb is overkill for me uses a lot of battery as well
only just got mine but have "unlimited" usage on my vodafone uk tariff....nice little small print in the "fair use policy" show unlimited to them actually means 500MB a month.....I hope I don't breach it.
Anyone recommend a nice little Data monitor to make sure?
definitely spd wireless monitor. costs a small bit but its awesome..
i usually average 50-100 mb a month on my kaiser ising manilla weather at least once a day, little bits and bobs of browsing, push e-mail with 2-3 emails a day, the ocasional small file download off the net, occasional you tube use...
but my fisrt month with touch hd i used 250mb, i think i did a lot more browsing, downloading and you tubeing. not had my second bill yet
on N!ghty's recommendation I grabbed a copy of SPB Wireless Monitor......very good little app. Not going to make use of the today screen plugin due to Touch HD's theme...but still..check it every now and then and it's doing the job.
NOTE: anyone else hate SPB's icon set...bunch of balls (atoms?) stuck together...just...shocking!
I had used spb for data monitoring a while ago but had switched to Efficasoft GPRS Traffic Monitor. I install it on my SD card so that after each hard reset I don't lost the month to date data. No reinstallation either after each hard reset. Just make copy the shortcut for spgm.exe to the startup folder and spgtc.exe to the Start Menu and I'm done.
I have flat rate data plan, fine print says it's 10 gb per month. To be honest, haven't breached a 1 gb yet Although I expect to be around 3-4 gb once I start traveling around again these days...
My plan is only 250 mb in a month.
It is very easy to reach.
I used spb wireless monitor to get those numbers above...I recommend it for those who don't have unlimited data because it also lets you set an alarm after a certain amount of usage to help prevent going over.
In case others like me didn't know this...leaving your data connection on all the time doesn't use up any data. However, obivously, it will use up data when it updates things you have set to automatically update (like email, weather, etc).
Is there any way to look it up on the touch hd software without installing a new app like efficasoft or spb wireless monitor?
pori said:
Is there any way to look it up on the touch hd software without installing a new app like efficasoft or spb wireless monitor?
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No, Windows Mobile itself doesn't support it .
i get 500mb through Orange's "unlimited internet"
curious to see how my first month's bill comes out.
In my first 4 days i've been using it alot setting things up, fiddling around and sending myself .cab files and images etc when in the office (as didn't have the USB cable or blutooth)
I too have a vodafone "unlimited" package with a fair use policy of 500mb....I've used 45mb in the last month.
To give you and idea of my usages...I have my emails set to download via contract internet (HSDPA) every 5 minutes...I use the internet about 10-30mins a day on contract internet...so 40mb is pretty good.
I don't use it do grab torrents or anything like that obviously
On a 1Gb plan with Three. Normally use 500 - 800Mb each month, most going towards youtube entertainment on the bus.
If I go over my cap, I get billed and the rates are shocking O___o
I watch a couple of videos but mainly it's just browsing for me, I rarely go above 200-300MB.
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I had used spb for data monitoring a while ago but had switched to Efficasoft GPRS Traffic Monitor. I install it on my SD card so that after each hard reset I don't lost the month to date data. No reinstallation either after each hard reset. Just make copy the shortcut for spgm.exe to the startup folder and spgtc.exe to the Start Menu and I'm done.
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I use SPB and use Sashimi to help load everything back after a flash.. One thing it will do is backup and then restore you 'My Documents' to the phone so I haven't lost the SPB data for a while.
I get through about 1-200mb a month on O2 uk. I also use the online billing to keep an eye on how much I go through. It's update daily so I never have any issues with using too much
Although I haven't measured the data usage or anything, I'm sure that if you're surfing through Google's mobile proxy
http://www.google.co.uk/gwt/n (for the UK; make appropriate adjustments for your country)
your data usage will be less than if you were viewing web sites directly, as the proxy strips down a web site to its bare essentials... Of course, this means you won't get the full browsing experience, but it's good for web sites where you're mostly interested in the text content.
On the other extreme, a browser like Skyfire (which attempts to replicate the PC browsing experience on your mobile device) is probably going to hit your bandwidth hard.
It would be interesting if someone did a comparison of data usage with these two methods.
I've tried the C-Apsiro app and it works fine my only complaint is the music is kind of low compared to the windows media player on the phone and the tf3d music player we used to have starplayr as a alternative app but it either discontinued or started charging a fee.
is there a official siriusxm radio app out there? or any alternatives?
i've also tried the siriuswm5 app in the sticky but that doesnt connect on my tp2 and the channel list is out dated. any others?
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I've tried the C-Apsiro app and it works fine my only complaint is the music is kind of low compared to the windows media player on the phone and the tf3d music player we used to have starplayr as a alternative app but it either discontinued or started charging a fee.
is there a official siriusxm radio app out there? or any alternatives?
i've also tried the siriuswm5 app in the sticky but that doesnt connect on my tp2 and the channel list is out dated. any others?
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SiriusWM5 might not be connecting today, because no online apps are working now, including the Official Iphone App. It appears Sirius is re-working all of their online content and only the Official Sirius Webpage is running now. I've confirmed that SiriusWM5, C-Aspiro, Iphone and uSirius are not working.
Dwight2001
I have used the SiriusWM5 app for quite sometime. I was not aware of other apps for Sirius out there. Can you post any links? I will search too.
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SiriusWM5 might not be connecting today, because no online apps are working now, including the Official Iphone App. It appears Sirius is re-working all of their online content and only the Official Sirius Webpage is running now. I've confirmed that SiriusWM5, C-Aspiro, Iphone and uSirius are not working.
Dwight2001
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c aspiro apps works for me im using it right now
sirius wm5
hello, are there any fixes to get siriuswm5 working again?
CONFIRMED: How to get your SIRIUS fix...
I just about started pulling my hair out in clumps, but I finally found a solution.
If you have the iPhone:
Pocket Tunes Radio: http://www.pocket-tunes.com/
** Not sure if it does Stern, but definitely does SiriusXM on the iPhone, no Windows Mobile SiriusXM Support **
If you have a SmartPhone/Windows Mobile (non-touchscreen, including BlackJack II, which I have)
SelectRadio: http://www.selectradio.com/
** Developer released a fix that is essentially a DLL overwrite. This method works! Delivers 32 and 128 streams, Howard is back in my car! DOESN'T REQUIRE CAPTCHA AND SAVES YOUR LOGIN / PASS!!!**
If you have a PPC (or Windows Mobile Touchscreen)
C-ApiSRO: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=26310
** Developer did a 11/16 release that for now fixes the issue **
Of course, you always have the SiriusXM App for the iPhone, but no Howard Stern. I for one am personally highly upset that SiriusXM is making such a stupid move by overlooking cell phone internet users for their service. If they keep trying to sell those stupid radios, it's going to be over for them quickly.
SelectRadio has a 10-Day Trial, then you have to buy. Tewnty-five bucks, but weigh that against what the program can do and that the cheapest SiriusXM radio in the stores is about $60. Not to mention the app uses low resources (infinitely better than the Skyfire workaround) and also does XM and about a bajillion other stations. Well worth $25 to me, especially since my BlackJack II can go from speaker (which is pretty loud) to car casette adapter to headphones to line-in to pretty much any audio system... No Stiletto or portable they make will EVER do all of that.
And for the record, I am in no way affiliated with the maker of any of these apps, I just was freaking out looking for a good solution and finally found a few, including one that has me listening again. I preferred SiriusWM5, but oh well...
At least I'm listening the way I want to.
SelectRadio has a touchscreen version. The C-ApiSRO app is primarily touchscreen. The latest version should be in the post.
I used SelectRadio all the way home on my drive (30+ miles). Worked like a charm. SiriusWM5 was usually 51K bitrate. Got a solid 128K this time .
Give it a whirl. I doubt you'll be let down. The interface is a little clunky at first, but you get used to it pretty quickly.
C-ApiSRO latest is from May of this year. The 11-16 date was in 2008 Been using it for a while w/ no issues, works decent if your connection is good.
~Eric
Oops, I said May, it was March *sigh*
v2.0.5 March 19th 2009, which I think is the only zip. I was using it for the last 6 weeks (including yesterday) with no issues.
~Eric
This goes deeper than we may notice.
I was able to login and start streaming on my desktop today, so online is not an issue.
SiriusWM5 stopped working on my (hacked) Tilt. (I know this is a Rhodium forum, but the app is the same, right?)
I had my laptop tethered thru my Tilt using Internet Sharing. I was not able to get anything streaming thru the tethering.
I was able to access the Sirius player and get things playing through SkyFire though. Clunky, but it did play.
It makes me wonder if they detected the IP as a mobile one and that is also part of the problem, not just the coding of the app?
Mike The Apeman said:
This goes deeper than we may notice.
I was able to login and start streaming on my desktop today, so online is not an issue.
SiriusWM5 stopped working on my (hacked) Tilt. (I know this is a Rhodium forum, but the app is the same, right?)
I had my laptop tethered thru my Tilt using Internet Sharing. I was not able to get anything streaming thru the tethering.
I was able to access the Sirius player and get things playing through SkyFire though. Clunky, but it did play.
It makes me wonder if they detected the IP as a mobile one and that is also part of the problem, not just the coding of the app?
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No. Not unless your cell company is blacklisting the traffic, in which case skyfire would not let you log on. Debunked.
The problem is that the infrastructure of the player is totally different now. It's still using MD5 for encrypting pass to the server, etc. But the stream targets have changed. This was done by XM's dev team. I actually made a phone call to product dev in NY and they confirmed it. They also simply said that 3rd party app support isn't in the cards, and that they are "working on" a player. Whatever, meh.
But anyway, stop trying to use Sirius WM5. Not only is the channel list out of date in the CAB, the code is trying to grab the captcha and stream from the wrong place. SelectRadio works. And, it gives you the 128k stream. If you have a touchscreen device, try C-ApiSRO. Most are reporting success with it.
mlevin77 said:
> C-ApiSRO app is primarily touchscreen. The latest version should be in the
I got an am using v2.0.5. It says connected ok (password etc.) but won't play - says "unable to load channel"; any ideas?
> I used SelectRadio all the way home on my drive (30+ miles).
that one says "no login server or bad login" next to a little green icon of a radio tower, even though I'm using the same username/password that works fine from a desktop browser. It claims it knows what's playing on each one (has a song title scrolling), but no sound coming.
What am I doing wrong?!? Do they have a support link? I can't find one on their website.
thanks,
Mike
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I've noticed that sometimes SelectRadio does this, but mainly because the initial connect is timing out. The tower can be red, and I still get it. Just pick another channel, then go back to the channel you want. It will usually work fine after that. I've only had to restart the app once, mainly because AT&T sucks total ass and drops my WAP connection.
Also, make sure you put the username and password for your Sirius account in before you try a channel. Sirius customers that have the premium internet account should hear best of XM channels, but the XM tab will not work. That obviously requires an XM internet account.
Can't use the default file explorer. If you do, the tun.dll you drop in the folder will be named "tun.dll.". It will not get the extension right. I had to install, then browse to the folder using a program called The Tool (http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Developer-Tools/File-Manager/The-Tool-Smartphone-84530.shtml) and delete the existing dll file. Then, I copy/pasted the new dll file into the folder. Voila, working.
Try that. I had more or less the same problem you are describing. The dll file being in the wrong place was the culprit. Oh, and you may want to install directly to the device instead of an SD card. I think the access time of the SD card can make WinMo progs act wierd sometimes.
The nag screen is a pain, but I plan on purchasing a key tomorrow (payday). SiriusWM5 using Windows Media Player Mobile worked fairly well, but SelectRadio is holding onto the connection a bit better. Either that, or it buffers the stream more. Trust me, I am horrendously picky when it comes to my apps, and this thing will inevitably work for you.
Let me know what happens...
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But anyway, stop trying to use Sirius WM5. Not only is the channel list out of date in the CAB, the code is trying to grab the captcha and stream from the wrong place. SelectRadio works. And, it gives you the 128k stream. If you have a touchscreen device, try C-ApiSRO. Most are reporting success with it.
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C-ApiSRO is broken as well. The only one that seems to be working now is SelectRadio. This is just plain dumb that none of the free apps are working now thanks to a move on the server side at Sirius.
I think CardonWare (SelectRadio dev company) has posted a newly updated version that takes care of the dll issue. You may want to uninstall everything and start over.
I did a TrialPay and chose Rhapsody 14 day trial. Got a key for SelectRadio, then cancelled the Rhapsody trial.
Total cost? ZERO... POINT... ZERO .
Oh, and I have noticed some random errors in grabbing some Sirius channels. E-Street Radio for example can't connect at the moment. Random wierdness. But Howard 100 and most other channels I try are fine. Experiment heavily.
Alright, I have a Sprint Touch Pro 2 and can't for the life of me figure out how to get Sirius or XM working on Select Radio, I continue to receive the 'no connection to stream server' error. Anyone else encounter this and if so, anything you could point me towards?
Thanks!
Thanks all, selectradio is working right now on my sprint touch pro 2, listening to howard right now.
I did have to exit the app and start it again, then enter my user login etc. and it started right up at 128kbs. so far does evrything siriuswm5 did. wish it had a screen toggle on/off feature.
above poster, some screens were slow to load at first when i started clicking to the sirius tab then channel 100, i know i missed the login page and it seemed to freeze after that, i exited then reopened and went slower, now it works on my sprint touch pro 2, hope it helps, should work for you.
Sirius WM6 to the rescue!
works post-sirius-fiddling and no more captcha!
http://forums.geekstoolbox.com/showthread.php?t=25946
Works great. Hey Now!!! Thanks
I have noticed that some of the channels don't work, and some may be missing, apparently because the channels.txt file (in the player's install folder) has dated info in it. This can be fixed by editing that file in pocket word and saving as plain text, of on a PC with notepad and copying back over the original.
As an example, Playboy radio would not work.
If you log in to the Sirius online with a PC and start a channel in the player, the URL for that channel looks like:
. . . .sirius.com/player/listen/play.action?channelKey=playboyradio&genreKey=sirentertainment&categoryKey=cattalk&stopped=no
The section in the channels.txt for Playboy radio looked like this:
99 | Playboy Radio
playboyradio
playboyradio
cattalk
when it SHOULD have looked like:
99 | Playboy Radio
playboyradio
sirentertainment
cattalk
So you can see how you can repair broken or missing channels by first using the Sirius browser radio to get the keys, then edit the file.
Hi,
I know the Audible players via their software download site aren't supported on Android, BUT...
Does anyone know a way around it, enabling the .aa files to be played, with the ability of bookmarks?
Paul.
As of now the only work around is Tunebite (or something similar) which cossts and extra $40.00 just to use content you already paid for thru Audible. Or you can burn a bus load of CD's and rip them to mp3 (time consuming, and the first time thru a long book, youll quit in disgust and most likely cancel Audible.
I cancelled because i refuse to play theyre "supported devices" game. They have been telling me for over a year (via phone calls and email) that they would "love" to get an android player on the market but they have had no success working with Google (something I find VERY hard to believe).
I find it odd timing that Loe Leporte and Jason Calacanis get Nexus Ones, sing theyre praises, then when someone asks the 2 biggest supporters on the web of Audible how they are paynig theyre Audible files... suddenly we hear its coming out in 10 days from Jason (last twit podcast) and message board posts saying its coming 1st half of 2010.
Kinda makes me mad they waited this long and it took Leo and Jason to light a fire, feel like I shoulda called TWIT instead of Audible, might have gotten better results! pfft!
Saw the announcement today and I got a couple of questions. What's the advantage of having cloud-based music other than being able to listen to music anywhere on any devices? If I were to stream music from the cloud, wouldn't it use up my data bandwidth and consume more battery power on my device? How's the quality of the stream? Is the audio quality going to be as good as the original music file?
As far as battery goes , that would be a yes ....
Yes it will use your data unless you have a constant wifi on the go
All other questions will have to wait and see .. I signed up for Beta .. Hope i get the invite
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As far as battery goes , that would be a yes ....
Yes it will use your data unless you have a constant wifi on the go
All other questions will have to wait and see .. I signed up for Beta .. Hope i get the invite
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Lucky you. Google doesn't give any love to their Northern neighbours.
NexusDro said:
Lucky you. Google doesn't give any love to their Northern neighbours.
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I'm in Toronto. I signed up for an invite using a US proxy. This is the same way I successfully signed up for Google Voice. Hopefully it works for Google Music.
I also installed the new Google Music app on my N1 (showthread.php?t=1072655), and it's pretty cool. It replaces the stock music player.
As a customer who has 500MB of data a month it's totally useless for me.
Even if I had a 5GB plan, why wouldn't I just throw it on my SD card?
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I also installed the new Google Music app on my N1 (showthread.php?t=1072655), and it's pretty cool. It replaces the stock music player.
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The new Google app looks nicer, but I don't really like it. There's no way to queue multiple albums without creating a named playlist and there is no notification bar in the horizontal layout. I don't want my music app to hide my notifications, I don't see the point of that.
It's much prettier, but they REALLY need to implement lockscreen controls. I find those to be a must-have for use in the car.
Well right now I use the Amazon cloud and it works pretty nicely. And at first I wouldn't think I would use it at all. But I do use it on my work comp and my phone via wifi only. But Amazon does have the option of downloading to your device and they actually recommend it because of the bandwidth issue.
I too asked for the invite. As n1 user that has the wave, voice and gmail, this would be a great addition to my google pack .
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As a customer who has 500MB of data a month it's totally useless for me.
Even if I had a 5GB plan, why wouldn't I just throw it on my SD card?
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+1. Better off just playing directly from my SD card. And FM radio is still useful too
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Actually just read the following on the Music Beta website:-
Not online? No problem. The songs you've recently played will automatically be available offline. You can also select the specific albums, artists and playlists you want to have available when you're not connected.
http://music.google.com/about/
I was in the middle of messing around with my updated Music app when my 2.3.4 N1 rebooted...Anyone else?
I have it
I have the service now and checked it on nexus one and my new tablet. I should say the app is nice and the music service work like charm. You can pin music on your device so you dont need to download them again, but on a new device, you will have all musics again. All playlist will be syncs on all of your devices.
The only feature I love to see now is to sync back musics from N1 and tablet. The only way you can upload now is PC, this is my understanding, I need to play with it more.
updated to new version 3.0 and took almost 10MB of my internal memory!! Using titanium backup to integrate the app's update into ROM fails and it gives a force close...
HHmmm...I don't think I will spare those 10MB's for that one...
No
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has anyone heard on any limits or anything the cloud based music will be? its a nice feature but putting 90gb of music up on googles servers will takes quite a bit of time for me, along with if there is a cost involved, i think my current set up suits me better than relying on someone elses cloud. granted the [email protected] stuff they were demoing puts a much different spin on things with the tungsten devices
I currently use subsonic which sort of makes my home computer the cloud with my music. I can stream my music collection from any pc mac or linux through the web browser or over my n1 or an iphone if i had one. to answer the op's questions about could streaming yes its gonna use a bit of battery and yeah, data usage will go up.
one of the options in subsonic that is helpful to some with restricted data plans is preloading a set list that can be done on wifi and configuring a max cache size in MB, i dont think ive seen settings like this available in the google music stuff yet
I don't see a big sence in Google Music.
Most people have the few songs they listen to on their computer, why store it in a cloud?
I think one of the nice things is it allows us more space on our sdcards for other things. I am constantly moving tv shows and movies between my desktop and phone, and if I cleared up the 15GB of music I have stored on there, that means less moving around of other files.
But, with that being said, I couldn't use this here (and I am not sure I would use it in the states), as they give me a 1GB cap per month which I always get close to or go over (then they throttle your speeds to roughly dial-up speeds)... plus the drive from work to home goes through two different bermuda triangles as far as reception is concerned (and my village is basically devoid of a T-Mobile signal, although I guess Vodophone or O2 has a signal there...). I don't know how much of your collection it will queue. And I definitely wouldn't do it if the songs can't load fast enough in EDGE (never really tested it) as I almost always have 3G disabled to help with battery life.
Just got my invite yesterday...
There's a number of advantages, like always being able to access all your music (I have 100+ gb, so it would never fit on the phone), secure backup for your music (in case of hard drive failure), etc.
You're not forced into using it, so it's just another option. I've previously been using Audio Galaxy, but that requires my home pc to always be available. This is a bit more flexible...
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Just got my invite yesterday...
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Still waiting for my invite. I am hoping that I can still use it in Germany (used a proxy for to request the invite... just like Google Voice, which the texting is awesome when overseas), but it may come while I am in the states for a month on leave. Either way, I am always willing to try out new things...
@Rat, how much storage did they give you? I think I remember reading it, but I don't remember... somewhere around 10GB for the free version?
Storage is unlimited and free "while in beta". I've no idea what the final number will be...?