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An interesting development on the laggy app drawer issue

I know I'm not the only one with the problem of the laggy app drawer. When you first open it, it's perfectly smooth. Then, if you leave it alone for a second and use it again, it's extremely slow. It happens on any Acer-based rom, including unrooted stock.
Well, here's an interesting fact: This only happens with a static wallpaper. The issue goes away with a live wallpaper.
Why is this happening? Is it a problem with the launcher or the rom?
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Electrodeath0 said:
I know I'm not the only one with the problem of the laggy app drawer. When you first open it, it's perfectly smooth. Then, if you leave it alone for a second and use it again, it's extremely slow. It happens on any Acer-based rom, including unrooted stock.
Well, here's an interesting fact: This only happens with a static wallpaper. The issue goes away with a live wallpaper.
Why is this happening? Is it a problem with the launcher or the rom?
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Wow, that is interesting.
I have noticed that some people experience this issue, and some of them don't. My app drawer does get slow and laggy, but its more just a bit choppy than anything else. It doesn't really bother me so I never worried about it too much.

To be honest, I hadn't noticed that either. However, based on your description, it sounds like the live wallpaper prevents the cpu governor from underclocking (by virtue of the fact that it's more cpu-intensive, thus requiring the cpu to operate at a higher clock), thus preventing initial lag. Just hazarding a guess, though.

finally a thread about this. Here's what I know. I don't think its the CPU scaling because I've tried to fix this. It still happens even when I force it to 1.4 ghz+ the only rom without this problem is virtuous xoom. And it doenst seem to be the launcher. I've tried swapping them around

stock rooted 3.2 and cant make it happan, using reg walpapper. Did not see on previous versions.

I have seen this on other 3.2 tablets... I assume its a gpu thing or just a bug in 3.2
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Sounds like the problem is on Acer's end. Email time!
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looks like it is hc 3.2 issue - i wasn't experiencing this on hc 3.1 roms
i was trying as well find out the reason...
only thing what i found out - when the lag is there - killing any of running apss will kill the lag for some seconds as well and the app drawer become smooth again.
tested with quick system info pro.

Its the otherway round for me.......the app drawer lags a lot when i use live wallpaper and lags a little less when i use a static wallpaper....i think it depends on the kind of (live or static) wallpaper used on the device.....
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It just always lags for me, but as I said earlier, it isn't enough to piss me off or anything. It's only a slight lag.

Everytime I see lag I just tell myself ics will be open source and one of our fine devs will make this awesome
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Curious
I dont have a app drawer that lags but out of curiosity would someone with a laggy app drawer plug in a mouse to their unit and scroll the app drawer using that mouse. See if it makes a difference.

app draw lag
Could you explain app draw lag for me please?

Touch screen responsiveness Gingerbread VS ICS/JB

When my S2 is running on ICS or JB, i'm I'm totally not happy with the touch screen responsiveness. Is there a way to fix this issue? I was so frustrated that i even tried Gingerbread today, and maybe you don't believe it, but with Gingerbread the touch screen responsiveness of my Samsung S2 is fantastic!
I've made 2 movies, to visualize my touch screen responsiveness issue
Gingerbread VS ICS (both are stock roms):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaYbE0OtD-c&feature=youtu.be
Jelly Bean (I've tried resurrection and revolts rom, and also tried the kernels: siyah, CM10 and dorimanx:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0UP0J0l0wc

Nothing related to development.. Just a general thing which most S2 users knew.. Must have been posted in General section...

It was very annoying at first after updating to ICS/JB roms and is very noticeable once you pick up an iPhone and try scrolling on that. The galaxy nexus had the same delayed scrolling, but when I used my old Galaxy S(1) with CM9 or CM10 that lag was not there and scrolling felt great!

I concur. Screen responsiveness is nowhere near what Gingerbread has.
I noticed this when I (recently) "upgraded" to ICS. Not much of an upgrade if you ask me. Hardware should be as responsive as previous if not better.
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Indeed CM7 seems more butter then cm10 even with vsync

Has Samsung acknowledged this problem?

Here the same bro.
For me the best ROMS for GS2 made in 2011 are GB based ROMS.ICS ROMS lag like hell and contacts keep on crashing and freezing TW.
But our ICS fanboys here will not accept these facts and now they are clamoring for JB with it's own set of problems.
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Soldier2000 said:
Has Samsung acknowledged this problem?
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They ll never.. I think now they forgot ICS.. Moreover google got that point improved it lot in JB.

are you running gb cm 7 or stock GB?

GalaxyGusta said:
are you running gb cm 7 or stock GB?
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In the first youtube video i'm running on stock GB and stock ICS.

Soldier2000 said:
In the first youtube video i'm running on stock GB and stock ICS.
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Just tried a gb rom and yes it is a lot faster in Web browsing and stuff but now I remember why I can't use it..
I'm from Israel and I'm using Hebrew as my main language and gb doest support left to right built in
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It's not a question of responsiveness, I think. More of a question of how scroll works. It's been discussed in many threads at many time. It's not an issue per say... They just chose another direction for scrolling. There are ICS custom kernels which "fix" scrolling. Just look for them.

I believe it is. I have found touch responsiveness to be less with ICS than Gingerbread was. (I still have my Nandroid backup of my Gingerbread FW).
With Gingerbread, I touched the screen and response was (comparatively) instant. With ICS, I wait or re touch the screen for the response back. Keyboard seems the only thing that is responsive. (Although, a few times I even questioned it).
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I truly am looking forward to a fully functional JB rom. Just for that responsiveness.
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And yes, I am running BBS to see if there is an app causing the issue. But so far nothing g is showing up
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Funny how some of us don't seem to have issues with screen responsiveness. There's the infamous screen responsiveness delay issue, but there's been fixes for this already. I guess that's the price you pay for running full stock.
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For me, system responsiveness is better in ICS than GB. However, the web browser just scrolls differently in ICS. However, your second video is inaccurate. You claim that both phones are running Dolphin browser. The SGS2 you used is actually running Chrome. Chrome has issues on our SGS2.

jaykresge said:
For me, system responsiveness is better in ICS than GB. However, the web browser just scrolls differently in ICS. However, your second video is inaccurate. You claim that both phones are running Dolphin browser. The SGS2 you used is actually running Chrome. Chrome has issues on our SGS2.
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Nah 2.3.4 (Touchwiz 1.0?) Is way smooother
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Unexist6969 said:
Nah 2.3.4 (Touchwiz 1.0?) Is way smooother
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For you, possibly. For me though, I noticed that there were less hiccups when scrolling through menus (like settings) or homescreens (Touchwiz or Go Launcher). TW's homescreen was noticeably smoother on ICS. On 2.3.4, that was the first thing I complained about (TW homescreen hiccups).

Yesterday my girlfriend buy an sgs2, WTF !!!
It really lag so much, scrolling, menu.... have the 4.0.4 stock inside with no official update available.
She don't want flash modded rom for warranty reason (and hard brick in some case I've read).... She can't do anything to improve the smoothness ??!!!
Very very bad !

jaykresge said:
For me, system responsiveness is better in ICS than GB. However, the web browser just scrolls differently in ICS. However, your second video is inaccurate. You claim that both phones are running Dolphin browser. The SGS2 you used is actually running Chrome. Chrome has issues on our SGS2.
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Hmm, i think you're right.
If you want i can make a new movie with JB and browsing with the Dolphin browser .

hmhmhm.
if you are on cm10 based ROM (maybe previous versions also,cant tell) theres settings->advanced (takes u to specific handset options)->Touch sensitivity
I dident touch it as i dont really feel the problem but it may help some of you to try it i quess

How smooth is the browser?

Ok about to pull the trigger on it but i need to know one thing. When using boat of dolphin how smooth is the experience exactly? Ive been using android for 3 years now on HD2, galaxy tab, galaxy note and honestly none of them can match the browser experience ive found on wp7 or ios. My family has an Ipad 3 and its BUTTER SMOOTH. Have you used an iphone? is it as smooth?

Chrome is absolutely horrendous. Also, stop trolling. You posted this exact same thing in Next 10 forum yesterday, and I already answered you. iOS is a lot smoother than Android.
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Horrendous? Really? Chrome runs pretty much perfectly for me. I've yet to find any website that causes notable lag. No complaints here.
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Fasty12 said:
Ok about to pull the trigger on it but i need to know one thing. When using boat of dolphin how smooth is the experience exactly? Ive been using android for 3 years now on HD2, galaxy tab, galaxy note and honestly none of them can match the browser experience ive found on wp7 or ios. My family has an Ipad 3 and its BUTTER SMOOTH. Have you used an iphone? is it as smooth?
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UGH!!!!

I've never been a fan of chrome from android, however I think it did improve a tad bit, but really just a little (it still need a lot of work and still in beta to me). Anyway I think Google should have kept the stock android browser which is in my opinion the best mobile browser , better than safari or wp internet explorer. The quick controls, the fluidity and the support for flash makes it the best.
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InvalidUsername said:
Chrome is absolutely horrendous. Also, stop trolling. You posted this exact same thing in Next 10 forum yesterday, and I already answered you. iOS is a lot smoother than Android.
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Definitely not horrendous. Its not really "smooth vs not smooth", the problem is that it's inconsistent. I would saw that 80% of the time its as smooth as safari on iOS, but the rest of the time it stutters a little, especially when the page is loading.

Fasty12 said:
Ok about to pull the trigger on it but i need to know one thing. When using boat of dolphin how smooth is the experience exactly? Ive been using android for 3 years now on HD2, galaxy tab, galaxy note and honestly none of them can match the browser experience ive found on wp7 or ios. My family has an Ipad 3 and its BUTTER SMOOTH. Have you used an iphone? is it as smooth?
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Most Android users aren't known to appreciate a smooth phone experience
This may answer your question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E406xXr4Mok&list=UUhQl2YkLt3dj-KDyGUBzcHw&index=6&feature=plcp

IT's actually much smother on the GN4 than on my ASUS T300

I've compared Chrome on my N4 with the browser on my wife's SGS3. Chrome opens webpages super fast. It's faster than her S3, but the scrolling is sluggish in Chrome. It seems like a flick doesn't carry much inertia on the webpage and it doesn't scroll down very far. The super fast loading of web pages is great, but the scrolling is really bugging me.
Fasty12 said:
Ok about to pull the trigger on it but i need to know one thing. When using boat of dolphin how smooth is the experience exactly? Ive been using android for 3 years now on HD2, galaxy tab, galaxy note and honestly none of them can match the browser experience ive found on wp7 or ios. My family has an Ipad 3 and its BUTTER SMOOTH. Have you used an iphone? is it as smooth?
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Eh, Opera Mobile is my default browser.
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Chrome isn't brilliant to be honest. Scrolling is smooth but it lags behind your motions, and loading performance is only okay. I personally use Dolphin as it feels the most like a desktop browser in terms of UI. Dolphin is far smoother.
Compared to iOS? No, not as smooth. However, it's honestly more than acceptable, coming from an iPhone 5 myself. Not something that you really notice when browsing.

Installed the aosp browser. Butter.
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droidmakespwn said:
Installed the aosp browser. Butter.
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I'll second that. Pure butterness!
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This is android. If you don't like chrome, don't use it. The aosp browser from jellybean 4.2 is totally smooth.
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Chrome isn't the best but it gets the job done fast enough and doesn't lag lol. For me too much effort to use another browser and sync all my stuff.

The AOSP browser's pretty amazing.

Chrome has scrolling issues. Dolphin is pretty smooth though.

I personally prefer Chrome over the AOSP browser because it syncs everything I need perfectly. The lag is minimal and doesn't even bother me. All personal preference
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Spartoi said:
Chrome has scrolling issues. Dolphin is pretty smooth though.
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True, it's a good option too.
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Chrome Performance

I know there are forums for other phones on this topic but I don't believe there are any for the Nexus 4.
Chrome has been absolute trash for my Nexus 4, which is stock. It lags like no other. Anyone using chrome on the nexus 4 and isn't having the same problem, as in the browser works great? I'm currently using Dolphin to resolve the issue. But why would google make chrome the default browser when it clearly isn't ready for prime time? The stock ASOP browser was much better. Comments anyone?

abrown0809 said:
I know there are forums for other phones on this topic but I don't believe there are any for the Nexus 4.
Chrome has been absolute trash for my Nexus 4, which is stock. It lags like no other. Anyone using chrome on the nexus 4 and isn't having the same problem, as in the browser works great? I'm currently using Dolphin to resolve the issue. But why would google make chrome the default browser when it clearly isn't ready for prime time? The stock ASOP browser was much better. Comments anyone?
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Works fine for me. Not noticed any lag or that other browsers are any quicker.
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Mine isn't trash and doesn't lag at all..

calanizzle said:
Mine isn't trash and doesn't lag at all..
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I am using Chrome Beta works great. Feels faster and better then the stock one. Try the beta one and see how it is for you.

I've been using Dolphin over Chrome for a while now, can't get over the fact you can't set a home page for Chrome, I know you can set a home screen shortcut, but still.

No lag here. Using regular chrome and chrome beta.

No lag for me either. The only lag I get is when the page is still loading and I'm flicking around the screen. I will admit chrome lags on other devices. Its just the raw power of this phone thats making it not lag.

@OP: What is your ROM + Kernel setup?

zephiK said:
@OP: What is your ROM + Kernel setup?
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I'm running stock out the box setup. I've tried chrome beta and that's even worse.

Are the chrome for android devs blind?

I don't know what the excuse is for the state of chrome for android. The beta and the new stable version have absolutely atrocious font rendering and are extremely laggy. I already though chrome for android was a mess and that the stock browser should never have been removed as the default for new devices but this is just ridiculous. I seriously think whoever is the project leader for chrome for android needs to be dismissed. It is seriously an embarassment to the platform and has ruined the stock performance of the nexus 7, 4, and 10. All three devices are butter smooth on a pure aosp rom or cm10 in the aosp browser. They are a chopfest with the stock chrome. I honestly think the only way to fix chrome now is to just rebase it on the stock aosp browser and rename it chrome.

They don't understand that we're not all masochists.
Install a third party browser.

No problems with Chrome on my 7 or my Galaxy Nexus. I use it as my main browser on both.
Does this thread serve a purpose other than whining about something that takes 30 seconds to change if you don't like it?

I have the aosp browser installed (running aokp 4.2.2) but many people especially the general public will only use chrome because its the default. As it stands right now its a complete mess. If you don't think it is install the aosp browser and then try to say chrome is better.

I agree with the OP, Chrome is a disgrace for android. It's very laggy, slow and the fonts displayed on web pages looks horrible.

I have the stock Rom with aosp browser, chrome is a crap, slower than any other browser, really laggy, really slow rendering, the only good thing is the integration with the Google services, I really like Google and love android, but, I'm not a zombie, if something works bad, I don't going to say is good only because I like who made it.

Only reason I use Chrome is because of syncing. Syncing in stock AOSP browser doesn't work in 4.2.2. I wish they'd hurry up and release ChromeSync for 4.2.2.

I like chrome :c The text is super clear if you ask me
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cnstarz said:
Only reason I use Chrome is because of syncing. Syncing in stock AOSP browser doesn't work in 4.2.2. I wish they'd hurry up and release ChromeSync for 4.2.2.
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Install cm10 or any aosp ROM and the stock browser has full bookmark sync support.
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Have you guys tried chrome beta? There's two versions of chrome.. Chrome beta is new and actively being developed on. I get updates once a week just about.
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The OP is right. I have both the older version of chrome and chrome beta installed on my Nexus 7. I'm rooted but otherwise everything is stock. The fonts are slightly fuzzier in the beta version.
And much more annoying sometimes text is randomly sized way too small no matter what zoom I have set in the accessibility settings. This happens a lot on the xda forums in fact. I can literally switch between chrome (ver18) and the beta on the same page and thing look perfect in the old stable version but in the beta some post responses are tiny while others are normal.
My fear is that this bug along with the fuzzy fonts is now part of the stable chrome update. I was just beginning to like chrome again
And honestly I bet chrome is the number one reason why noobs buying a nexus 7 have a poor experience. Which is a shame because this is an amazing device.

You know what? Screw Chrome. It has always been buggy and slow and probably will be for a while. The most underrated but best browser there is hands down is x scope. I don't understand why it isn't more popular. I have tried all the browsers and it is by far the best. The quick toggles and ability to swipe the screen to go back and forth are extremely intuitive.
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GldRush98 said:
No problems with Chrome on my 7 or my Galaxy Nexus. I use it as my main browser on both.
Does this thread serve a purpose other than whining about something that takes 30 seconds to change if you don't like it?
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It performs better on my Nexus S than my Nexus 7. It's an interesting situation to say the least
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Slightly of topic but if I backup chrome with titanium backup will I be able to restore the old version of chrome if I don't like the update? I'm just wondering since you can't uninstall chrome (through the normal ui) the way you can other apps from the play store.

The most annoying problem for me is that it renders text differently in portrait and landscape modes. XDA for example becomes absolutely unreadable in portrait. And zooming without auto-reflow is also a pain in the ass.
The worst thing? They don't use their public bug tracker and don't react to any bug reports in any way.
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blackhand1001 said:
Install cm10 or any aosp ROM and the stock browser has full bookmark sync support.
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Or just install chromebookmarksyncadapter.apk in system apps. I'm currently using stock rooted deodexed ROMs on both my 7 and galaxy nexus with aosp browser.
On topic, I have no problems with chrome on my nexus 7, it runs well and smoothly, I simply use the aosp browser because I prefer the layout, flash support, and quick controls.
Edit: for anyone wanting aforementioned apk. Simply place https://www.box.com/thisguy in system apps, reboot, check sync options and you should now have option to sync browser.
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NicholasQ said:
Have you guys tried chrome beta? There's two versions of chrome.. Chrome beta is new and actively being developed on. I get updates once a week just about.
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I had mixed results. It wasn't very good on my N7, but brilliant on my N4.
It sounds like a weakness in the Tegra3 platform,,,,,

Chrome update released yesterday.
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Actually Google realised something was wrong with Chrome main. they publicaly said itll soon be getting plenty more stability updates and bugfixes. so they admitted fault there and the beta is exactly that. a beta. its them actually letting us test the versions they test faster.
so when you take these considerations in fact. the only thing you are whining about is them not updating fast enough. and thats just silly

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You know what? Screw Chrome. It has always been buggy and slow and probably will be for a while. The most underrated but best browser there is hands down is x scope. I don't understand why it isn't more popular. I have tried all the browsers and it is by far the best. The quick toggles and ability to swipe the screen to go back and forth are extremely intuitive.
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I tried finding x scope in the Play Store but there is only the paid version.