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So I've learned more about android so far than I intended or expected. I haven't needed to learn about or implement a2sd but at this point my "keepers" app collection has me down to just over 20mb free internal storage so I'm considering taking the plunge.
I haven't used a2sd yet for two reasons:
A) I haven't needed it
B) I've read lots of threads regarding difficulty with setting it up and maintaining it when switching or updating roms
So what's the scoop? Is it worth it? Is there any performance gain or is it strictly a storage benefit?
Should I go ahead and learn about it so it's in place when the time comes that I want to use it or am I better off with my current rule of thumb? Which is "if I think I NEED a2sd then I probably NEED to reevaluate my app library".
Thanks guys
nebenezer said:
So I've learned more about android so far than I intended or expected. I haven't needed to learn about or implement a2sd but at this point my "keepers" app collection has me down to just over 20mb free internal storage so I'm considering taking the plunge.
I haven't used a2sd yet for two reasons:
A) I haven't needed it
B) I've read lots of threads regarding difficulty with setting it up and maintaining it when switching or updating roms
So what's the scoop? Is it worth it? Is there any performance gain or is it strictly a storage benefit?
Should I go ahead and learn about it so it's in place when the time comes that I want to use it or am I better off with my current rule of thumb which is "if I think I NEED a2sd then I probably NEED to reevaluate my app library"
Thanks guys
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Unless you are running out of space on your phone, I wouldn't worry about it. It is supposed to be faster if you have one of the $100 8gb class 10 thingys but I don't know if its true. its fast enough already
My vote: Nay
I have never used it and have never run short of space on my phone. From all the millions of posts on the subject I can't imagine it being worth the huge pain in the ass it seems to be!
I use it, as I have and do run out of space on /data.
I have a 16 GB class 2, so I've always refrained. I'm not running out of space, but I usually decide whether or not I like an app right after I install it and if I don't like it, uninstall.
So, to answer your question...
I don't know, I'm curious myself.
I use, ran out of space on my phone the first week so was excited to do it. it was a piece of cake to set up with RA 1.6.2, and switching roms has been no big deal, I usually first try to update without wiping ext, and 9 times out of 10 it works fine and I don't have to download my apps again (though you do lose data, but that can be backed with titanium. If it does mess up, it's no big deal, I adb pull the apps out with a * and they're all on my computer pretty quickly so I can reinstall as necessary.
jonnythan said:
I use it, as I have and do run out of space on /data.
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Do you mean to say that even using a2sd you STILL run out of space on /data?
funcrusher said:
I have a 16 GB class 2, so I've always refrained. I'm not running out of space, but I usually decide whether or not I like an app right after I install it and if I don't like it, uninstall.
So, to answer your question...
I don't know, I'm curious myself.
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lol, I was hoping this poll would benefit more than just myself
Like I said, I keep my app list pretty clean but 20mb as low as I've seen yet.
nebenezer said:
Do you mean to say that even using a2sd you STILL run out of space on /data?
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No, no, definitely not.
jonnythan said:
No, no, definitely not.
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ok, thanks!
I love a2sd cause I have a 8g card vs a small internal storage space on the phone. A2sd is very easy.
1. Backup your SD card on computer.
2. Root your phone if you haven't.
3. Partition your SD card via the recovery menu(I used 512mb for my ext2).
4. In the same menu at that below it change it from ext2 to ext3.
5. After complete put all of your files back on your SD card that you saved to your computer.
6. Then mostly every new 2.1 ROM has it built in now where it runs from the first bootup with no patching or user issues. Just make sure you look in the description of the ROM to make sure.
I'm running Fresh 2.0d. I just upgraded to a new 8g SD card for more music and movie storage space. So I just re-did the process. The longest part is waiting for the files to be transfered to/from the computer.
doeboy1984 said:
I love a2sd cause I have a 8g card vs a small internal storage space on the phone. A2sd is very easy.
1. Backup your SD card on computer.
2. Root your phone if you haven't.
3. Partition your SD card via the recovery menu(I used 512mb for my ext2).
4. In the same menu at that below it change it from ext2 to ext3.
5. After complete put all of your files back on your SD card that you saved to your computer.
6. Then mostly every new 2.1 ROM has it built in now where it runs from the first bootup with no patching or user issues. Just make sure you look in the description of the ROM to make sure.
I'm running Fresh 2.0d. I just upgraded to a new 8g SD card for more music and movie storage space. So I just re-did the process. The longest part is waiting for the files to be transfered to/from the computer.
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I would skip the ext3 part if I were you, kills your sd card faster
I know some people were having so trouble with some of the ROM's cause they were in ext2 but no one was having any problems while using ext3 s thats why I posted that. To help alleviate that issue
Vrekk said:
I would skip the ext3 part if I were you, kills your sd card faster
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I don't know why they even made this an option. I have a feeling the people implementing this have no knowledge of filesystems which is frightening....
For those of you running it:
What class cards do you have?
feld said:
I don't know why they even made this an option. I have a feeling the people implementing this have no knowledge of filesystems which is frightening....
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feld,
Care to post a brief run-down of the difference between ext2 and ext3?
funcrusher said:
For those of you running it:
What class cards do you have?
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I'm using a class 6.
jonnythan said:
I'm using a class 6.
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See, if I had a class 6 I probably would have tried it out by now. Afraid that my class 2 will slow down apps etc. ;\
I've had no problems with a class 2 8gb.
I have a class 6 on order.
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See, if I had a class 6 I probably would have tried it out by now. Afraid that my class 2 will slow down apps etc. ;\
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I doubt it, actually. The class rating only refers to the minimum write speed in an optimal situation. Read speeds seem to be decently high across the board. You'll probably never notice any difference, if there even is one.
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I doubt it, actually. The class rating only refers to the minimum write speed in an optimal situation. Read speeds seem to be decently high across the board. You'll probably never notice any difference, if there even is one.
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Yeah? What do you think about the 2.5 version or whatever that moves your dalvik over as well?
is there any limit to the size of SD card for the hero phone??? or class????
bklynfire said:
is there any limit to the size of SD card for the hero phone??? or class????
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The maximum size is 32 Gigs. Currently, I've heard people re having problems with the 32 gig cards (maybe not on the CDMA Heros), but with other phones -- which HTC said they would release a firmware update for. Also, I don't know if there's anyone here that even has a 32 gig card -- mainly because they're ridiculous expensive.
There are quite a few people around here that are using 16 gig cards perfectly fine, so at the moment -- get that, unless you'd like to spend more for a 32 gig. In regards to the class of the card -- this matters for read/write speeds (mostly write); if you plan on using Apps2SD, its recommended that you get a class 6 card, however class 4 and even class 2 working perfectly fine as well; though do understand ware and tear will affect the card over time.
At the end of the day; you'll need to experiment on your own and see what works for you. I'm not one for Apps2SD, so I don't use it. I have a class 4 - 4 gig card and I haven't had any problems; though I do plan on getting a bigger/better card sometime later.
thank you for your reply
bklynfire said:
thank you for your reply
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No problem.
pseudoremora said:
The maximum size is 32 Gigs. Currently, I've heard people re having problems with the 32 gig cards (maybe not on the CDMA Heros), but with other phones -- which HTC said they would release a firmware update for. Also, I don't know if there's anyone here that even has a 32 gig card -- mainly because they're ridiculous expensive.
There are quite a few people around here that are using 16 gig cards perfectly fine, so at the moment -- get that, unless you'd like to spend more for a 32 gig. In regards to the class of the card -- this matters for read/write speeds (mostly write); if you plan on using Apps2SD, its recommended that you get a class 6 card, however class 4 and even class 2 working perfectly fine as well; though do understand ware and tear will affect the card over time.
At the end of the day; you'll need to experiment on your own and see what works for you. I'm not one for Apps2SD, so I don't use it. I have a class 4 - 4 gig card and I haven't had any problems; though I do plan on getting a bigger/better card sometime later.
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While there are some known issues with 32 gig cards there is an easy fix. I have read if you let your pc format the card and not the phone you shouldn't have any issues. Do a search to make sure though.
Droidish said:
While there are some known issues with 32 gig cards there is an easy fix. I have read if you let your pc format the card and not the phone you shouldn't have any issues. Do a search to make sure though.
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Wouldn't the phone have to eventually format it for A2SD??
iviyth0s said:
Wouldn't the phone have to eventually format it for A2SD??
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Not if you add a ext partition using your computer with a partition manager, it separates the partition and adds another in whatever format you choose (ext2, ext3, ext4, fat32 and etc...) You can do what the phone does with your computer. Some even prefer doing it that way. I also think it wont erase anything from your card when using the computer, it doesnt format when adding a parition.
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Not if you add a ext partition using your computer with a partition manager, it separates the partition and adds another in whatever format you choose (ext2, ext3, ext4, fat32 and etc...) You can do what the phone does with your computer. Some even prefer doing it that way. I also think it wont erase anything from your card when using the computer, it doesnt format when adding a parition.
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Even though windows (I'm not running linux)
I just got my 32gb microSD card (http://tiny.cc/6dkju). I originally formatted it as NTFS so that I can transfer large files. I put it back into my EVO (cyanogen 6 froyo nightly) and it says that the card is blank. I realize that this is because its not Fat32.
My question is that: is there anyway to enable usage/compatibility with NTFS formated microSD cards?
thanks,
mark
also, i did search and couldn't find any concrete answers.
NTFS (NT File System) is a microsoft proprietary format.
No, android will not read NTFS. Format the card in the phone or fat32.
Not much reason to use NTFS, but I woulda thought Android might have support for NTFS-3g
jigglywiggly said:
Not much reason to use NTFS, but I woulda thought Android might have support for NTFS-3g
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Which in my experience, is buggy as hell.
Stick with FAT for now, or ext3 if you can.
And I swear, if a Mac-humper comes on here and says to format in HFS+, I think I might just lose it.
I tried formatting my card in ext3 through recovery and it didn't seem like it wanted to format the whole card in that format. I suppose you could format it in a linux box that way. My macbook (ahem, lol) won't do that file system, I think. Seems kinda waste of time to install linux in a virtual machine just to format a card. I wonder if the phone would ***** about the entire card being ext3? I'm lazy, so I haven't tried it to see, yet.
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drmacinyasha said:
Which in my experience, is buggy as hell.
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Don't know when you last tried it... in my experience, Debian does not include "buggy as hell" software in their stable repositories.
jigglywiggly said:
Not much reason to use NTFS.......
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I tried to load up a 10GB movie file to my EVO to take to my buddy's house and watch through his PS3. I was unable to load a file that large because of the 4GB file size limit of FAT32. I'm just sayin'
by the time you transfer a 10 gig movie file to your phone, the movie will be out on cable!!
oldmanwinter said:
I just got my 32gb microSD card (http://tiny.cc/6dkju). I originally formatted it as NTFS so that I can transfer large files. I put it back into my EVO (cyanogen 6 froyo nightly) and it says that the card is blank. I realize that this is because its not Fat32.
My question is that: is there anyway to enable usage/compatibility with NTFS formated microSD cards?
thanks,
mark
also, i did search and couldn't find any concrete answers.
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wow, 99 for a non-fishy 32 gig? nice find! EDIT: :-( they were selling it for $49 by accident about two weeks ago. Still $99 is a good deal.
Look for a program called gparted. It's free and supports almost all formats for partitioning etc. Anyway hope that helps.
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so is there any file system that this phone will use that will allow file sizes beyond the 4gb limit of fat32?
edit: whoops, wrong forum/phone.. I'm asking about the epic, not the evo.. I was going to start a thread, but the forum suggested I check out this (and other threads) before I start my own.. very handy feature for those new to the forum :]
I think I want this.
http://androidcommunity.com/sandisk-announces-64gb-microsdxc-for-mobile-phones-20110915/#bXpulseX
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SanDisk has mentioned the 64GB SDXC cards should be available starting next month for the low low price of just $219
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Yea its a bit pricey but just imagine a 96gb tablet or even a 128gb tablet.
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It makes since. I mean if you look at it; laptops and desktops can hold more space then tablets right not, so the logical thing for them to do would be to make sd cards that can hold more.
Bigger on the inside...
vamp6x6x6x said:
It makes since. I mean if you look at it; laptops and desktops can hold more space then tablets right not, so the logical thing for them to do would be to make sd cards that can hold more.
Bigger on the inside...
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Uhh... I guess?
jondwillis said:
Uhh... I guess?
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lol, sorry about the bigger on the inside thing. I was thinking of an episode of Doctor Who
This will not work with your xoom or most devices out right now for that matter. It requires a SDXC slot to read the card (xoom and most devices have SD slot) and the card is not backward compatible. So dont rush just yet.
jase33 said:
This will not work with your xoom or most devices out right now for that matter. It requires a SDXC slot to read the card (xoom and most devices have SD slot) and the card is not backward compatible. So dont rush just yet.
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Aww, you kinda rained on my party lol, but you did probably save me as well as many other people a bit of money
If you are _VERY_ lucky a firmware update could enable or does someone know it needs new hardware?
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jase33 said:
This will not work with your xoom or most devices out right now for that matter. It requires a SDXC slot to read the card (xoom and most devices have SD slot) and the card is not backward compatible. So dont rush just yet.
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Good call! Thanks for sharing. It would've been pretty crappy to find this out the hard way.
The Xoom uses the SDHC standard and will never support SDXC. No, a firmware update will not change this fact.
Well, we always have the USB OTG cable option if we use up both the internal and external 32GB memory. The price of the card is just to high now anyway.
Ya know they could have put a bay in for hdd. That would solve the problem.
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Isun said:
Well, we always have the USB OTG cable option if we use up both the internal and external 32GB memory. The price of the card is just to high now anyway.
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I can buy 4 32GB cards for that price.
Yes, these cards work in Android devices after formatting them from exFat to Fat32:
http://www.androidnz.net/2011/09/sandisk-64gb-micro-sdxc-cards-confirmed.html
remember laptops/desktops have a lot more capacity as u say BUT (and a big but) check apps size of android vs PC/Laptops - i'd say 32GB are like 320GB on a PC - mind u i have 5 *2TB in my Gigabyte 3d Aurora tower ^___^
Hello colleagues, today became the owner of LG nexus4. Some time ago I wrote a brochure that the phone come with a slot for a micro SD card and without reference to the source or a second opinion, I bought the phone with 8GB memory. till now i have a phone with 16gb and somehow fit in it, but this 8gb are not enough for me. My question is if there is a way to add storage hardwarly somehow?
Nope, it's impossible. The only way would be to buy a different device.
Unless you want to find a ROM/kernel that supports USB OTG, and you could use a flash drive to store things. I'm not sure how well implemented this is on the n4 though.
That's easy. Just download Google drive; it offers 15gb free space .
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badboy47 said:
That's easy. Just download Google drive; it offers 15gb free space .
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And of course, how could I forget. The main reason for the lack of space is because Google is pushing cloud storage. It is the future after all, and I find it is so much easier than worrying about physical storage space.
The only problem with cloud storage is it requires a wifi connection and you cannot directly stream from it if wifi speeds arent fast enough, ex. music/movies. Thats why i despise cloud storage unless you need to store files that do not have to stay on your phone 24/7
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The only problem with cloud storage is it requires a wifi connection and you cannot directly stream from it if wifi speeds arent fast enough, ex. music/movies. Thats why i despise cloud storage unless you need to store files that do not have to stay on your phone 24/7
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If you have enough data, it can be useful anywhere you have a data connection. But of course, not everyone has that.
punish said:
Hello colleagues, today became the owner of LG nexus4. Some time ago I wrote a brochure that the phone come with a slot for a micro SD card and without reference to the source or a second opinion, I bought the phone with 8GB memory. till now i have a phone with 16gb and somehow fit in it, but this 8gb are not enough for me. My question is if there is a way to add storage hardwarly somehow?
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Hello punish, you can add hardware storage only with usb otg. Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181820
You should have an otg y-cable and flash a zip in recovery.
But then you still have to be next to a power source for your extra storage. This is the single thing that seriously annoys me with the devices today.
I remember getting my old 5th gen iPod video 80gb back in 2005 when it first came out. And it still works perfectly fine today despite being 8 years old and using a hard drive instead of flash storage.
I mean how can companies offer a device with 8gb (5gb usable) and possibly suggest it is enough. That is 10 times less than a product from 8 years ago.
I know they are pushing cloud storage but still in today's world it is turd.
Not everybody has unlimited data.
No provider will have great reception everywhere.
Devices nowadays are pushing 1080p screens and you will only possibly be able to stream 1080 media on lte which will lower your reception areas down significantly.
Streaming files from the cloud will consume far more battery than playing local content.
I don't even understand how they thought that we are in a current state where cloud storage is better than local.
At least not until we have gigabit mobile internet and mobile sized flash storage that can write at those speeds. It's just a gimmick that can be used for backing up non important files and if your lucky streaming music.
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Alright, this thing is a real piece of crap but it'll have to do if you really need/want extra storage: http://www.zerolemon.com/details.ph...r-battery-case-2250mah-removable-battery-pack
You'll have to be a little handy since it needs to be modded. Basically, there's a LOT of wasted space inside the case, which makes it perfect for adding a usb flash drive / card reader.
I'm using a Kingston G2 reader with a 64gb microsdxc card. I'm really hoping they release a G3 with uhs support soon.. Class 10 is so slow.
The biggest issue I have with "cloud" services is the stupidity of Google Play Music. It'll cache and cache and cache with no limits. Sooner or later, it'll have gobbled up all the storage.
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eksasol said:
^ That's a battery case dude.
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reading comprehension
Sorry didn;t bother to read the rest of your message. Seems interesting, but maybe a bit of work. It's probably better to hope for the Nexus 5 to have OTG support and 32gb.
I was thinking about the Sandisk WiFi flashdrive: http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Connect-Wireless-Flash-SDWS2-032G-E57/dp/B00DBX371C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8
Thank you very much for you help colleagues. I want to ask, is it necessary to have my phone root and different from my original ''rom'' to connect to an external memory?
punish said:
Thank you very much for you help colleagues. I want to ask, is it necessary to have my phone root and different from my original ''rom'' to connect to an external memory?
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Yes because you have to use a custom kernel.
Desno365 said:
Yes because you have to use a custom kernel.
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Then you have to put custom rom and this kernel on my phone .
try this instead:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Conne...&sr=8-1&keywords=sandisk+wireless+flash+drive
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try this instead:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Conne...&sr=8-1&keywords=sandisk+wireless+flash+drive
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Big gotcha with Wireless flash storage - when you connect to the wireless storage, you give up access to the cell network or other wifi you were using for data. Thus, you have to choose - data or storage. You can't have both.
Best solution to add 8gb more memory to a Nexus 4 is to get rid of the Nexus 4 and get a phone with more memory.
Hello colleagues, I finally decided to flash rum on my Nexus, but I do not rely ANSWER (micro usb flash memory). Can you tell me what you would read my phone or who put my rоm with any kernel?