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Hi guys, so I'm buying a phone, would you recommend me x8. If yes why, if not why not?
Ya surely i will recommend Its a simple handy n compact samrtphone with great features..
I would buy one if I could a cheap place to unlock it...
Hi. I just got one X8 for my wife. I have played with it for a while, and it works great.
It looks nice, feels nice, and it works nice.
But there are two things that I don't like:
1. UI: I didn't find it very practical and I wasn't able to find a way to change default color scheme; that's a kind of a problem, because apps in drawer have white letters and home screen background stays even when drawer is opened, and if you have some white parts on background, then you can't read names of apps.
On other hand, my wife likes UI, so it depends on personal preferences will it be a problem, or not.
2. lack of some decent document reader; my wife will sometimes like to read some PDF books on it, but I wasn't able to find good PDF reader that will work on this phone. For example, I have on my Galaxy S ThinkOffice witch was supplied as stock app with phone, and it's great for any document reading and editing. So, it will be a good thing if this phone had at least some decent viewer.
All in all, it's a nice phone, and it will be nicer when update to android 2.1 comes, and I can recommend it to anybody who is new to smartphones and android, or someone who want's small, practical and simple smartphone (with good looks). Also, I can recommend it to advanced users who need nice backup phone or second phone, beside more potent devices from top models.
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But there are two things that I don't like:
1. UI: I didn't find it very practical and I wasn't able to find a way to change default color scheme; that's a kind of a problem, because apps in drawer have white letters and home screen background stays even when drawer is opened, and if you have some white parts on background, then you can't read names of apps.
On other hand, my wife likes UI, so it depends on personal preferences will it be a problem, or not.
2. lack of some decent document reader; my wife will sometimes like to read some PDF books on it, but I wasn't able to find good PDF reader that will work on this phone. For example, I have on my Galaxy S ThinkOffice witch was supplied as stock app with phone, and it's great for any document reading and editing. So, it will be a good thing if this phone had at least some decent viewer.
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1. You could try ADW Launcher from the market. You can tweak it to feat your needs, feels fast and you can add more widgets on the same screen.
2.I am using BeamReader and it does it's job. Decent PDF reader. Find it on the market also.
Comming from a HTC Hero, Xperia X8 doesn't have that sturdy build, the back cover cracks a lot but feels ok in the hand and looks good. Android 2.1 will be a big improvement as the hardware is quite good for its price, UI and 3d games run smoother than on the Hero (even on 2.2.1). Very good for a mid class device. I recommand it. Also, battery life is decent for a smartphone.
I got one, and my emotions are a bit mixed. Sort of a love-hate relationship.
Edit 2: Text below was written before the release of 1.6. I am now running 2.1, and have no problems with games, and is generally happy about my x8.
As I see it, there's 2 major cons to this phone. Firstly, the very very low priority on upgrades for Android version. I bought mine with a promise of an october update to 2.1. Now it's late november, the x10's have gotten their upgrade, and I'm still waiting... till the end of 2010 by the looks of it. No official word on 2.2 or 2.3 update yet... Not promising imo. With the time it took updating the x10, I can't think how it'll be for future updates to the x8, seeing it got even lower priority than the x10's. I'd stay away from SE until they show some sign of shaping up their update policies.
Games... if you like games, get another phone. The only game that doesn't freeze up after 10secs-15minutes is Alchemy. Anything more graphics intensive, and it'll freeze up. It runs the games just fine until it freeze tho. If this is due to ancient android version, I have no idea. But I guess since the games are compatible with 1.6, they should run on an 1.6-phone. This applies to Angry Birds, Zenonia, Blow Up, Yumsters, you name it... pretty much any game I've tried. It's not isolated to my phone either, if you google the issue yourself.
On the other hand... ignoring these issues, I think its a very good phone for it's price. If you don't mind not having access to the latest apps, or not being able to play games, you might like this phone alot... however...
If I was to make the choice again, I'd go with another manufacturer that has a track record of putting out android updates fairly quickly...
Edit: Forgot to mention the annoyance of all the bundled demo versions of apps and games that you simply cant remove from your phone unless you root it. Another little sign of Sony Ericsson simply not "getting it".
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I got one, and my emotions are a bit mixed. Sort of a love-hate relationship.
As I see it, there's 2 major cons to this phone. Firstly, the very very low priority on upgrades for Android version. I bought mine with a promise of an october update to 2.1. Now it's late november, the x10's have gotten their upgrade, and I'm still waiting... till the end of 2010 by the looks of it. No official word on 2.2 or 2.3 update yet... Not promising imo. With the time it took updating the x10, I can't think how it'll be for future updates to the x8, seeing it got even lower priority than the x10's. I'd stay away from SE until they show some sign of shaping up their update policies.
Games... if you like games, get another phone. The only game that doesn't freeze up after 10secs-15minutes is Alchemy. Anything more graphics intensive, and it'll freeze up. It runs the games just fine until it freeze tho. If this is due to ancient android version, I have no idea. But I guess since the games are compatible with 1.6, they should run on an 1.6-phone. This applies to Angry Birds, Zenonia, Blow Up, Yumsters, you name it... pretty much any game I've tried. It's not isolated to my phone either, if you google the issue yourself.
On the other hand... ignoring these issues, I think its a very good phone for it's price. If you don't mind not having access to the latest apps, or not being able to play games, you might like this phone alot... however...
If I was to make the choice again, I'd go with another manufacturer that has a track record of putting out android updates fairly quickly...
Edit: Forgot to mention the annoyance of all the bundled demo versions of apps and games that you simply cant remove from your phone unless you root it. Another little sign of Sony Ericsson simply not "getting it".
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Uhh, you know those 'bundled demo's are put there by your provider, right? Not the fault of SE. Rooting then nuking them isn't hard. Also, I've had no problems with games on my phone, Angry Birds works fine.
It's disappointing about the lack of Android updates though. Sony Ericsson really need to release the boot-loader code or something.
The default home-screen is pretty terrible. Get ADW or something.
All up, it is very worth it, seeing as it is one of the cheapest Android phones out there. Unless you can afford something better, I'd recommend it.
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Uhh, you know those 'bundled demo's are put there by your provider, right? Not the fault of SE. Rooting then nuking them isn't hard.
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Just to clear things up. I bought mine sim-free with only the stuff SE themselves put on there. If I didn't remove it already, I'd post a list for you. It wasn't hard to get rid of, but that doesn't make it any more right, imo.
Interesting that your birds aren't freezing. But thats another discussion.
I like this phone and actually I "downgraded" from the X10 mini because I could not use the small screen on the X10. It is a very good phone for the money, good screen, good battery and I like the SE UI.
But... I see the appalling quality of the camera goes without mention in this thread?
If you want to take some pics with the phone: Avoid. No auto focus and no flash means if you are not outside in daylight you have to be lucky to snap a decent picture.
Worst camera on a mobile phone I have used in years! Not a problem for myself, but be warned.
Thank you guys, Well I have about 10 days to choose: GT540 or X8, they are bouth same price here in Croatia. My main concern about X8 is interface, can it completely be changed with some program, theme, etc?
As others mention, you can use interface replacements like ADW Launcher on the X8. This lets you put more than the default 1 widget pr screen, adds a quick-launch bar and allows for scrollable widgets like Pure Messenger.
I have no experience with the GT540, but I can't help but notice that it's got a resistive, not capacitive screen. If I was considering buying one, I'd definately go to a store and check out if the screen seems less responsive than the one on X8.
CROrION said:
Thank you guys, Well I have about 10 days to choose: GT540 or X8, they are bouth same price here in Croatia. My main concern about X8 is interface, can it completely be changed with some program, theme, etc?
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Yes, you can change the interface with ADW Launcher (Launcher Pro does not support 1.6 but once 2.1 arrives, there will be no problem). I rooted the device and used SystemApp Remover to remove the stock interface and bundled crapware. I would choose the X8 simply because it has a capacitive screen. Resistive is so old school
I recommend this phone to everyone than x10 mini/pro. According to the price and features. Although the camera is bad. But x8 is better than x10 mini/pro.
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With the release of 2.1, scratch all my previous comments. For its price, the x8 is a good little device, imo.
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With the release of 2.1, scratch all my previous comments. For its price, the x8 is a good little device, imo.
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i've read many reviews of X8 and other phones in same price category.. and i think now, x8 is best.. but.. i never had Android-phone so.. can u advise me to buy X8 as first Android?
and.. how bad is the camera? and how soon we will be able to root it? approximately
sory about my poor english.. and thanks for answers in advance
WARR10r said:
i've read many reviews of X8 and other phones in same price category.. and i think now, x8 is best.. but.. i never had Android-phone so.. can u advise me to buy X8 as first Android?
and.. how bad is the camera? and how soon we will be able to root it? approximately
sory about my poor english.. and thanks for answers in advance
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The camera is not so bad actually. Just because no light or flash. But still good in light condition and mms usage.
Oh yes. And no smile detection, face recognition, macro, focus,etc. The camera is just so plain.
Gunawan-GN Multimedia-X10i
droidjens said:
I got one, and my emotions are a bit mixed. Sort of a love-hate relationship.
Edit 2: Text below was written before the release of 1.6. I am now running 2.1, and have no problems with games, and is generally happy about my x8.
As I see it, there's 2 major cons to this phone. Firstly, the very very low priority on upgrades for Android version. I bought mine with a promise of an october update to 2.1. Now it's late november, the x10's have gotten their upgrade, and I'm still waiting... till the end of 2010 by the looks of it. No official word on 2.2 or 2.3 update yet... Not promising imo. With the time it took updating the x10, I can't think how it'll be for future updates to the x8, seeing it got even lower priority than the x10's. I'd stay away from SE until they show some sign of shaping up their update policies.
Games... if you like games, get another phone. The only game that doesn't freeze up after 10secs-15minutes is Alchemy. Anything more graphics intensive, and it'll freeze up. It runs the games just fine until it freeze tho. If this is due to ancient android version, I have no idea. But I guess since the games are compatible with 1.6, they should run on an 1.6-phone. This applies to Angry Birds, Zenonia, Blow Up, Yumsters, you name it... pretty much any game I've tried. It's not isolated to my phone either, if you google the issue yourself.
On the other hand... ignoring these issues, I think its a very good phone for it's price. If you don't mind not having access to the latest apps, or not being able to play games, you might like this phone alot... however...
If I was to make the choice again, I'd go with another manufacturer that has a track record of putting out android updates fairly quickly...
Edit: Forgot to mention the annoyance of all the bundled demo versions of apps and games that you simply cant remove from your phone unless you root it. Another little sign of Sony Ericsson simply not "getting it".
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I agree, usually when I get my x8 I will install a lot of games. And it is lack of space, I can't install more apps unless I modified it so that I can apps 2 sd. So now I just use it for browser, ebbudy and listening to musics. that's what I did to x8. If you want a gaming phone get lg optimus or galaxy s. xperia arc I wouldn't reccomend so much is because it's just like x10 just added some graphic card or what-so-ever, why not I get a lg optimus which is cheaper than arc? lol
Xperia X8 isn't perfect phone... but I don't regret it, that I've bought it. Firstly, stock camera app is really weak, but when I've installed Vignette, my photos looks really decent. Stock ROM isn't so laggy, but app like Apps2SD forced my to change launcher. So, if you're planning to buy a Xperia X8, buy it, and obtain some XDA great 2.2.1 or 2.3.4 ROM
I'm trying to get a phone for my girlfriend. I've been looking at iPhone 3GS but it's hard to get a good deal on one (I'm buying used, no contract). The Aria is the more budget-friendly Android device from AT&T but it's also made by HTC.
So, that being said:
1) How high of an over-clock do you guys get with battery life/daily usage being concerned?
2) How smooth is the OS? I mean like, scrolling, home force closes and multi-tasking.
3) How is gaming on this? Has anyone played PSX4Droid on it or Crusade of Destiny or Hero of Sparta on this device?
Essenar said:
I'm trying to get a phone for my girlfriend. I've been looking at iPhone 3GS but it's hard to get a good deal on one (I'm buying used, no contract). The Aria is the more budget-friendly Android device from AT&T but it's also made by HTC.
So, that being said:
1) How high of an over-clock do you guys get with battery life/daily usage being concerned?
2) How smooth is the OS? I mean like, scrolling, home force closes and multi-tasking.
3) How is gaming on this? Has anyone played PSX4Droid on it or Crusade of Destiny or Hero of Sparta on this device?
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I haven't overclocked the phone - I don't see a need. Others have done so without a problem. There is a "sweet spot," so to speak - search "SetCPU" on this forum for more information. The Aria battery seems to be an issue, although with smart phones with touch screens, wifi, data, moderate/heavy use, batteries are being asked to do an awful lot these days...
The OS is very smooth (in my opinion) even with the Stock Sense UI, which I really like. The biggest issues with the stock at&t ROM are bloatware and the inability (for now) to move applications to the SD card (to save space on device memory). The scrolling is fast, switching apps works great, and Android Memory Management seems to do an adequate job. I have had the occasional force-close (not too often), but only with bad acting applications. I have CM running now, but when I had the Stock Sense ROM loaded - it was stable as a rock.
I have only played a couple of Sony SNES games using an emulator. They seemed just fine. I'm not a big gamer, so I can't say if the Aria is good for gaming.
The Aria is a great phone -
Great size (not freakishly huge) - fits into a pocket easily
Minimalist design
Excellent OS: stable and speedy. I haven't had it lock up yet - over a month's use.
I narrowed my upgrade choices to two phones:
Palm Pre
Aria
The Pre seemed a bit chunky (a lot thicker) and it was a bit laggy - I touched the e-mail icon and it slowly (albeit elegantly) started the e-mail application. The Pre has a lot to offer - great multi-tasking, hardware keyboard, and very nice screen. The Pre also is a Palm device (WebOS) and can run legacy Palm applications, if that's important to you (it was what originally drew me to that phone - I'm a Palm addict).
The Aria, in contrast, seems to launch applications much more quickly. It's also a much thinner phone, and easier to carry. It multi-tasks, but the switching isn't nearly as refined as the Pre's.
The decision is ultimately up to your girlfriend - Have her check the phones out and decide for herself. She may not be as into messing with the phone's OS as much as you are...Remember - she's the one who will be using it.
1 - generally overclocked at 806 with no issues at all. can't tell a difference in battery drain after a days use oc'd or not oc'd.
2 - a lot of the smoothness depends on the launcher you're using. once you're rooted and running cm6/7, you can choose from any number of launcher (launcherpro, adw, zeam). i recently changed to zeam launcher and have been exceedingly happy with it.
3 - i play a lot of snes games (via gameboid) and notice no poor performance. i recently got dungeon defenders and its running just fine as well. casual games like angry birds and game dev story work great as well.
i would recommend this phone to anyone.
I keep SetCPU set at 864 on demand and I have never had any stability problems and have really only gotten the phone unsettlingly warm when playing games, and due to on-demand scaling my battery life is the same if not better than stock. My only complaint about this phone (perhaps this is an individual case) is that the multitouch in games is terrible. Two player reactor/air hockey, games that require simultameous moving and jumping or shooting are often frustrating because both touches do not register correctly: the phone detects each touch, but continues to register after one finger has been removed. Unfortunately I have confirmed this with multiple sensor viewers and drawing apps, so it does not appear to be app specific. And again, this may be a problem that only my device is experiencing, but its important to keep in mind...
Ive had the Aria for a week or so now. I picked mine up on Ebay as a backup phone as my Nexus1 is out to HTC for repairs. I have CM6 on both my phones, and when OC'd to 806, I really dont notice any difference between the Aria and Nexus' snapdragon in normal operations. Launching any app is faster, and a tiny bit smoother on the Nexus, but the Aria is not that bad.
Im actually really enjoying my Aria, as the smaller form factor is nice. Most phones are getting bigger, but my hope is that HTC packs a snapdragon into one of these little phones.
I've just downloaded the nightly of CM7 and gonna try that out.
This is my first smartphone I got a real deal on like 40 bucks referbished. I've had it for a month and no problems. Its really quick even at normal clocked speed. The only time it ever slowed was when I was using a task killer took that off and its nvr worked better. In my opinion the aria is to small for games on most of the emulators the buttons take up most of the screen and multi touch isn't all that great. In my opinion I'd go with the aria over the iPhone Idk wat apples os is like but android is very promising its almost limitless
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Hello,
Just wanted to post some thoughts. Recently bought the Atrix 4G. Over the past 7 months ive had 7 different phones. Here are my opinions:
1) iPhone 3GS:
Well everyone knows about this phone, so i wont go in much detail.
Pros:
Fast Phone, Everything worked seamlessly, battery was pretty decent, TONS of apps to choose from, iTunes integration (i hate itunes personally).
Cons:
Its apple, no customization w/ out have to jailbreak every update, Everyone and their grandma has the same phone.
2) Nexus one:
One of the most beautiful, well put together phones i have ever used. Really opened my eyes to android. Its a pity it didnt get more advertising.
Pros:
The form of the phone w/ the trackball, build quality for the phone was premium. Pure android. Blazingly fast, newer phones lagged while this phone was hauling. Battery life was decent
Cons:
No multitouch (which you dont really realize how important it is til you dont have it). Screen wasnt as bright or detailed as the newer screens. Parts and accessories were hard to come by locally.
3) iPhone 4g:
I strongly dislike apple, but i had to see what the fuss was about.
Pros:
Very well put together phone, extremely fast, access to large app store, very little lag, battery life was very good. screen was excellent quality, tons of accessories.
Cons:
Its apple, jailbreaking was becoming increasingly difficult because of baseband and OS. Everyone has this phone which makes me dislike it (personal reason but meh, we all like to be different). Everything is based through iTunes which i dislike.
4) Windows 7 Phone (samsung focus)
At first i thought the phone was stupid looking but then i decided to try out the metro UI.
Pros:
Fast phone, the metro UI on the inside of the OS (once you actually get into the apps) was brilliant, ease of use (good for most, bad for me since i like to change everything), BING! ( i really like bing after using the phone, integration was awesome). Zune integration was stellar. I really prefer zune (which i had never used before), to iTunes.
Cons:
There are alot. First, no multitasking or fast app switching. Relaunching an app every time you want to read a text message is annoying. Having a timer countdown and expecting it to go off when finished and it not going off because your screen wasnt currently on the timer app is very frustrating. Microsoft updates.... will happen eventually. The copy and paste update was 2 months late. That was just copy and paste and a few other touches. Lost faith in microsofts abilities in updating the OS. Lack of accessories such as car mounts etc... Battery life was pretty bad.
5) Blackberry Torch 9800
had to try it out on my quest to try every os. I actually came to like this phone
Pros:
BIS security, everything is encrypted. Email was the best i ever had. Had everything pushed to my phone from blackberry servers w/ only a couple mins delay after they arrived in my actual inbox. Form factor was awesome. First physical keyboard and it was really nice. No need to jailbreak/ unlock phone. Everything was open for user changes. TONS of options for everything. Battery was amazing, best ive had. Easily lasted 2 days of heavy usage. Multi tasking and multi touch like a pro.
Cons:
The phone came out in nov 2010. It has a 600 mhz processor. Its just not enough to support many games or intense apps. It saves the battery but in a field of emerging dual-core phones, they have to be more competitive in term of pure power. Screen was dim and resolution sucked. Lock button was designed by a monkey. couldnt put in pocket w/out unlocking the phone. Internet was slow, streaming apps (like pandora) was a joke, always skipping and lagging.
6) Palm Pre 2
Once again, it was next on the list. It would OS of the year on some poll.
Pros:
The OS is excellent on this. I really do like the cards and the gesture support. If there is one thing i could take away from this phone, it would be the OS. Just awesome and intuitive. "jailbreaking" was easy to do, and there is a 3rd party market "preware" that has lots of apps and "patches" that change things for your phone. Screen was nice, physical keyboard was nice (prefer the blackberry one more though). 1 ghz proc was able to launch apps and play 3d games decently. Dungeon hunters and angry birds etc...
Cons:
Battery life!! 1050 mah battery is abysmal. worst of all the phones ive tried. 5-6 hours of medium usage max. If you were playing a game, you better have it plugged in. Even playing solitaire drained the battery. I was able to use up the whole battery in 2 hours of 3d gaming. The form factor of the phone was a little kiddish. Did a little curve to the phone when keyboard came out. Phone is creaky. Started to have an "oreo" effect w/ in 2 weeks of usage. All hinges were loose and wobbled to the side. App market was sparce and there werent many new advances into the market. Screen was small and keyboard was... wierd. hard to describe but i didnt like it. Internet speeds sucks and streaming was not existent. Took 10-15 mins for pandora to launch and start playing. 2 min gap in between songs. if you paused a song it was take about 5 mins to start again if it started again.
7) Motorola Atrix 4G
Decided i needed to get away from kid hardware and back on the edge of tech
Pros:
Dual-core sexiness. psuedo "4g" speeds. Large screen. Nice resolution. Front facing camera. Fingerprint scanner. Build quality is nice. I prefer pure google experience, but i just installed spb shell and i love the interface and i dont have to deal w/ motoblur. This thing is blazing fast w/ no lag. Streaming music and video is easy. Navigation is brilliant. Oh how i missed android navigation. Tons of markets in the app store. Battery life is brilliant for the amount of power this phone is pushing. I easily get through the day of heavy usage. SD slot is a plus.
Cons:
I do get the occasional force close, androids open market is more open to malware. Motoblur = not up to date OS. Wish it was stock android. Finger print scanner is good idea but some times takes longer then just doing to the dots. Market place is kind of a cluster f***. Last thing is i keep pushing the speaker instead of the button on the back of the phone when im in the dark when i try to unlock it. Im afraid im going to break the speaker on accident lol.
All in all, the Atrix 4g is the best phone ive had, and i have had a lot. Hopefully this will help somebody if they decide to read through it all. Feel free to leave comments on your past experiences w/ other phones.
I agree with everything said here, and the lock button was designed by a monkey on the atrix as well.
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Man, you are I are on the same boat except, I have never experienced a Palm phone, and I won't ever...
I loved nokia - symbian phones, but the OS is outdated, as well, the technology used to build the phones is from stone age...
Used all different versions of iPhone, iPhones are great and all, but they have same different boring UI. No customization until phone's JBen. Apple wants to monopolize the market with their iOS, great, go ahead and try, i'm not in.
Used HD7 as current WP7 and different bunch of phones with Windows 6.5, they are all okay, WP7 has potential but lack of applications is what keeping me away from trying their phones, also for some reason Windows phone release is really slow compared to Android phones in current market.
Android. Great potential, way better feeling while using the phone than other OS. Honestly, market may not have rich application selection as compared to iOS, but Google's getting there.
One thing I don't like about and I am not pointing at any negative aspect, what I don't understand is why the hell in the world every second software/application developer is running after iOS app development? Don't they see the potential in Android? Don't they see the growth? Just a simple comparison, EA mobile has more than 25 games/apps for iPhone, but only 8 or 9 for Android... And to be honest, I don't like it... I want all of the developers on board come up with an app for android... this is one of the reasons I would still like to have an iPhone on me, just to kill time, there is tons of apps you can just keep playing, reading, doing something with your phone... Again, all of these is my personal opinion... if someone have anything to say about it, well... go right ahead...
But, at the end, I am sticking with my Google Phone... To be precise, Moto Atrix and HTC G2... Lovin'em.
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Hello,I'm from the Xperia X8 community.I'm going to get a replacement phone soon.Do you recommend Xperia Play?
Wow, you really like your Sony / Sony Ericsson phones eh? I love my play. But it was an under powered phone on launch and it's almost (over?) a year old now.
At the end of the day, it all comes down to how much you think you will game on it. For gaming, there is no better phone.
d31b0y said:
Wow, you really like your Sony / Sony Ericsson phones eh? I love my play. But it was an under powered phone on launch and it's almost (over?) a year old now.
At the end of the day, it all comes down to how much you think you will game on it. For gaming, there is no better phone.
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I really like gaming.There are so many phones out there but I don't know which to pick.
get psp or ps vita if you really like gaming.. unless you don't like carrying many handheld you could buy this X-Play.. but of course with the battery limit if you do gaming a lot/non-stop you have to re-charge every 4-5 hours ( i think it's so not convenience if you'd like to use it as phone too)
You want my opinion on Xperia Play? It's a good idea but not exactly what it SHOULD have been.
Pros:
- gaming controller, the only phone on the market with this feature
- good selection of Xperia Play-optimized Android games, some PSX games
- many good emulators that support the controller
- nice design, nice big screen - in my personal opinion
- Sony's support with newer versions of Android (they even promised Ice Cream Sandwich)
- quite a good camera, decent phone overall
- "openness" of the Android system (as compared to iOS)
- you can "root" it, install custom ROMs - advantage for some but not for me
Cons:
- single-core CPU - many people say it SHOULD have been dual-core
- lacks internal RAM - you will know what I mean when you install a bunch of apps/games
- weak battery - I charge twice every day, but I admit I play games excessively
- ICS is reported to run with problems as the machine has single-core CPU
- game selection seems lacking IF you have experienced the iOS (iPhone at al) library
- only some of the best iOS games get ported, and it often takes too damn long (e.g. Temple Run, Dungeon raid)
- Android will never get Unreal engine, hence no Infinity Blade for this phone (again, I PERSONALLY view this as a disadvantage and NO, I don't think Blood and Glory is a decent substitute)
- games OFTEN lag due to insufficient RAM
- you SHOULD root it and install custom ROM if you want to improve performance - or that's what I've heard
I'm sure I've forgotten something, but this is what jumps to mind immediately.
Coming from an X8, I'd say its a worthy upgrade. You'll free yourself of lag and horrible ARMv6!!
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You want my opinion on Xperia Play? It's a good idea but not exactly what it SHOULD have been.
Pros:
- gaming controller, the only phone on the market with this feature
- good selection of Xperia Play-optimized Android games, some PSX games
- many good emulators that support the controller
- nice design, nice big screen - in my personal opinion
- Sony's support with newer versions of Android (they even promised Ice Cream Sandwich)
- quite a good camera, decent phone overall
- "openness" of the Android system (as compared to iOS)
- you can "root" it, install custom ROMs - advantage for some but not for me
Cons:
- single-core CPU - many people say it SHOULD have been dual-core
- lacks internal RAM - you will know what I mean when you install a bunch of apps/games
- weak battery - I charge twice every day, but I admit I play games excessively
- ICS is reported to run with problems as the machine has single-core CPU
- game selection seems lacking IF you have experienced the iOS (iPhone at al) library
- only some of the best iOS games get ported, and it often takes too damn long (e.g. Temple Run, Dungeon raid)
- Android will never get Unreal engine, hence no Infinity Blade for this phone (again, I PERSONALLY view this as a disadvantage and NO, I don't think Blood and Glory is a decent substitute)
- games OFTEN lag due to insufficient RAM
- you SHOULD root it and install custom ROM if you want to improve performance - or that's what I've heard
I'm sure I've forgotten something, but this is what jumps to mind immediately.
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I'm pretty sure dark meadows uses unreal engine...
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It's simply awesome.
A lot of analysts and the crowds of typical spec-counters tried to pre-conclude that the phone would fall out of relevancy because of it's low specs... but as always, they're never savvy enough to consider GPU, memory quality, optimization and such (the TRULY important specs)...
...and at the end of the day, it's still beastin' all the benchmark games, still running smoothly, still doing everything flawlessly, still the ONLY smartphone with physical controls that work with over 300 games... and currently, it's getting more gametime than my Vita does.
+1. Well said
Just bought r800at for 100 usd! So for right now in happy
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Really pleased with this phone.
A little underpowered but it's still ok.
Low internal memory is not a problem with Link2SD
You can find it cheap (i've got mine few month ago for 200E -with no contract-)
Battery is a lot better than my HTC Desire (at least it was, i updated to DoomKernel and custom rom and i've got some battery issue now. Working on it...)
My gaming usage is mostly on emulators.
So, in my opinion, problems are software not hardware :
To use N64 Emulators, you have two apps : N64oid and Mupen64.
Mupen will works with touchpad on gingerbread, but it's slower than N64oid and have a lot of bugs.
N64oid works a lot better but support touchpad only on ICS. But on ICS you get some lag on this kind of hight end emulators, so you have to stick to gingerbread.
Kinda the same thing apply to the PSX emulator FPSE -touchpad only on ICS-, but it's less important because only few PSX games needs touchpad and there is an other emulator using stock emu to play some iso with touchpad
is not the best hardware but play with the pad have no price.
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I'm pretty sure dark meadows uses unreal engine...
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Er, I don't think you can play that on Xperia Play. I mean, it's exclusive to Tegra 3 or something?
Whereas, on iOS you can play Infinity Blade on a range of devices
Does what I want.
It's a smartphone that's not really lackluster at anything. Great for games, great for everything else Android does too.
As far as specs go, it's technically supposed to be underpowered... yet it's silky smooth, and easily crunching through pixels like a fat kid on candy... with ALL the benchmark Android games.
Just like the title says guys, does anybody else feel like this thing in my hand died a long time ago? And to have a physical controller built in isn't enough to keep me on board maybe for alot of the simple minded folks out there but this xplay literally died once something better came my way. Opinions? I know there are haters out there so bring it!
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Just like the title says guys, does anybody else feel like this thing in my hand died a long time ago? And to have a physical controller built in isn't enough to keep me on board maybe for alot of the simple minded folks out there but this xplay literally died once something better came my way. Opinions? I know there are haters out there so bring it!
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Wow, you're just spoiling for a fight. Perhaps you'd find one if your post made sense?
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It make plenty sense buddy I've just grown up and gotten tired of the slow laggy unresponsive way behind the times that is the xperia play. Maybe you should wake up also. And to the people who are hoping, wishing, dying for an xperia play 2, you really need to give your head a shake and snap out of that dream your locked into cause it won't happen
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Exactly the opposite for me... but then again my experience with the Xperia Play hasn't really left a lot to be desired.
First of all, there's a bit of irony here that kinda makes me grin... and it's that you're a huge part of the reason I've been getting nothing but flawless performance out of my Xperia Play. Do you remember being the creator of this topic? All since you posted that, I've been using, re-using and referring people to that particular ROM because it gave me level of consistent smooth function that can be described as nothing less than 'perfect'. Sure it's not Ice Cream Sandwich, Jelly Bean or whichever bundle of already-existing abilities that people decide to call new for whichever fad update people go wild over... but since these android updates are generally repackaged abilities that any owner of >2.1 Android can get, there's not much reason for me to sacrifice the polished stability of my GB build for anything else. Don't need to upgrade to ICS/JB for notification toggles, because we can already get something that includes far more customization than anything ICS/JB's stock options offer (LINK). Don't need JB's Project Butter because the performance was already silky smooth... we can the look of ICS/JB (LINK), we can get the data monitoring/data management of ICS/JB (LINK), the camera (LINK) and gallery (LINK) of ICS/JB, and even the power management (LINK)... all without ICS/JB.
The idea that this phone *died* because of slow-ness, lag or unresponsiveness always sounds odd to me because my Xperia Play hasn't really ever been slow or unresponsive. Like you though, I was always open to the idea of something better... which is why I reached out to more powerful phones like the Atrix, Evo 3D and Galaxy S3 - thinking that a paired PS3 controller or MOGA would give me a superior experience. Know what happened? The Atrix pretty much self-destructed, the Evo 3D's gaming worth ended up being a trainwreck with loads of games sacrificed the moment it was upgraded to ICS and the situation for GS3 gaming ended up being a frustrating mess. First off, having to pair the MOGA to it alone turns what should be quick and seamless into a chore - and that holds true regardless of whether we go through the MOGA App itself or the "alleged" universal IME. If the quotation didn't make it clear, there's a lot about the universal IME I dislike.
On paper, that should be the clear-cut killer app that totally makes the Xperia Play obsolete... yet it does everything but. It'll make the MOGA ideal for emulators, but by far and large - the appeal of the Xperia Play has been that it's so good at present-generation gaming that it doesn't need to piggyback yester-decade's antiquated games. Not only is the universal IME a ***** to set up, but there's so much sacrificed when trying to pretend the MOGA+uIME replaces Xperia Play. The lack of a d-pad automatically compromises it's practicality for many games where analog locomotion feels weird, and if we want the MOGA Controller that does have a d-pad, we'd be sacrificing portability even more than the existing MOGA (which is easily the bulk of two Xperia Plays even before a phone is put into it)... but for the sake of getting into just how horribly off it is to say MOGA > Xperia Play, let's pretend it isn't automatically on a lower level because of it's cumbersomeness.
Just as an example, let's cite Eternal Legacy. Eternal Legacy is natively a touch-only game that got a special edition for Xperia Play that makes it completely optimized... and by complete; I mean the physical gamepad can be used to manipulate the entire game from menu navigation, map navigation and combat. While it would seem like an RPG should be okay for a touch-screen, having physical controls is still much more precise and much faster way to perform multi-menu operations... so a gamepad is definitely the superior option. First of all, finding a working version of the damn game for the GS3 is annoying in itself... and since it was only truly prime with Xperia Play's gamepad, we have to resort to the only half-ass usable MOGA+uIME+GameKeyboard (or JC6) combination which requires tons of setup, and outputs an experience that's only half-workable (it really only works for field navigation... nothing else). We can plug any phone of any specs into that equation and get the same result, and plug many different games into that equation to also find games in high masses that are only half-playable.
If you see where this is going, you see that I just stepped up to the most well-known of the "steroid phones" and actually ended up making sacrifices... and for what? Fluidity? My Xperia Play experience has already been smooth... and on a stock ROM. We could revive the note that I'm a heavy supporter of GameKeyboard (which also delivers the same sense of half-playability to native touch games)... but Xperia Play's already got over 450 Android titles stacked under it's belt with the count still growing... so it's not only the most heavily supported physical gaming solution, but it's software support is very much so alive... and as the person who's taken on the tooth-gritting (often overwhelming) task of databasing Xperia Play's software releases, I can say from a very strong stance that it's support hasn't faltered.
From here, we could cite the Xperia Play's low internal memory... and to that I'd note how that's become a non-issue with MiniTool Partition and Link2SD. With that combination, I've amassed over 340 installs and I still have 85.4% of my phone storage free.
From here, we could note that Xperia Play's only rocking half a gig of RAM and a single-core processor with it's only real saving grace being an (outdated) Adreno GPU... yet we can have our minds blown as we see beefier phones like the Atrix struggling to run N.O.V.A. 3 as well as the Xperia Play does.
Of course there's stronger phones out there, but I've already got the prime for gaming. MOGA's doing quite well in it's own right and I love to see it getting out of the "only good for emulating old-ass games" category that so many other BT controllers tend to quickly fall into... but it doesn't compare to or replace the Xperia Play at all.
Another thing worth mentioning is just how far it's evolved. Look at any of the old reviews for Xperia Play, and we find that a lot of the original complaints aren't even valid anymore. It records in HD now, the prior complaints of auto-dimming have been handled, and while everyone loved to complain about the lack of integration into Sony's official gaming ecosystem - look at how quiet they've become now that it's been resolved.
Honestly, what puzzles me is exactly what one would be doing to get their Xperia Play to a point of being sluggish, slow or unresponsive. When people see my videos, I'm consistently bombarded with questions about what magic tweaks/kernels/whatnot I used to get my Xperia Play so smooth... and the answer's always the same... nothing. It's a simple stock ROM that I debloated through Root Explorer, paired with a carefully-chosen launcher that's optimal for fluidity and battery life... and it's been VERY smooth, fast and responsive.
Xperia Play's definitely not in the limelight, nor is it burning up the media... and from that it's easy to perceive that the Xperia Play's dead, but for anyone in the know... it's software support and fanbase are still stronger than any other physical gaming medium in the entire world of smartphones. This is why all my stronger phones have been sold or given away so that I can go back to my Xperia Play. No point in having a dual/quad core with as much memory as a desktop computer when my phone's already eating up any software I throw at it with ease.
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Woww.. Just woww..
Regards,
Sdojoin
It's the best gaming phone and multiple-use device by far.
I've recently upgraded to an HTC One X for my daily use phone because it's faster for everyday tasks, but I keep my Xperia Play close by at all times, switching sims if necessary, because it's just so good for gaming.
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I would Luke to add to TL's comment that I too have had the chance to play with (for about 2 days each) a GS3 and an HTC one x and yes they are sweet devices in their own right. But when push came to shove I bought a unlocked xperia play r800at. And have absolutely no regrets. Especially now that I am on or will be in three weeks a GSM phone, all these choices of roms. I've had a pre opus phone two years ago where I used a gamepad overlay for the phone hardware keyboard and sold it on a heartbeat to buy the Verizon xperia play. There too.... no regrets, except thy it's CDMA. But that's a other story. All in all I feel the play is the best multipurpose phone/gaming device out there. Yes its hardware is dated but that hasn't stopped of from still getting game dev love. And lets not even talk about the thousands of roms for emulators. Especially if you have the emus that have been modded to show up in the game launcher.
On a side note. TL what launcher you use on your phone ? I use an older version of go launcher before it became memory hungry. And my phone is super smooth and fast.
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How many games don't run fluidly on the XPLAY? From what I have installed, none!! TDKR used to lag a bit, but now my phone runs at 1.8ghz it is smooth as silk!!
I have seen a lot of posts recently with people lambasting the XP saying something like their 10.1" tablet + PS3 dualshock is miles better etc, but these people seem to be missing the point of the XP. Portability!!
For example. If I go shopping with the missus, guaranteed she will go into a clothes shop, where she will spend at least an hour. Before I got my XP, I would be bored within 20 mins, get grumpy, start moaning about my feet, then she would get grumpy and we wouldnt talk for the rest of the day.
Now I have the XP, I merely find a seat, bust out Asphalt, Most Wanted, Mini Motor Racing or one of the other great games I have and wait for her to finish. I'm happy, shes happy, we have a good night!!
My point is that it isnt practical to carry a tablet and PS3 controller everywhere with you, and it would look pretty weird sitting in a shop using that combination anyway!! The phone is always there and always ready.
To each their own...
It all come's down to personal preference. I prefer Android gaming on my Galaxy Nexus or Kyros tablet with a Dualshock 3 and the Sixaxis app, but that doesn't mean i don't like my R800x or that the phone has some sort of "problem" or considered "DEAD". In fact I never had a problem with my R800x and it run's like a champ. There's ton's of great game's that are xp optimized, plenty of custom ROM's, and some awesome theme's. My son love's it and use's it all the time.
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BensJammin said:
How many games don't run fluidly on the XPLAY? From what I have installed, none!! TDKR used to lag a bit, but now my phone runs at 1.8ghz it is smooth as silk!!
I have seen a lot of posts recently with people lambasting the XP saying something like their 10.1" tablet + PS3 dualshock is miles better etc, but these people seem to be missing the point of the XP. Portability!!
For example. If I go shopping with the missus, guaranteed she will go into a clothes shop, where she will spend at least an hour. Before I got my XP, I would be bored within 20 mins, get grumpy, start moaning about my feet, then she would get grumpy and we wouldnt talk for the rest of the day.
Now I have the XP, I merely find a seat, bust out Asphalt, Most Wanted, Mini Motor Racing or one of the other great games I have and wait for her to finish. I'm happy, shes happy, we have a good night!!
My point is that it isnt practical to carry a tablet and PS3 controller everywhere with you, and it would look pretty weird sitting in a shop using that combination anyway!! The phone is always there and always ready.
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This is so true
My xplay is a saviour in all the clothes shops or waiting outside a dressing room as she takes about a hour in on shop it crazy
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Whenever someone say this should go to the HD2 forum and say it to get flamed.
Also my brother have an iPhone5, but I got an R800 for him and the first he said was: COOL!
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I feel like I should get rid of it, but then I just can't. I love this phone.
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TLR owned the OP sooooo bad.
I agree to every word he says.
+1 to you TLR.
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I don't think anyone can just knock the OP's post. Without some level of manual software installation or modding, the Play is not flawless. I can vouch for this and it's actually the reason my brother got rid of it once his contract expired. You shouldn't have to modify or custom install anything for your device to run smooth. Sure, stock GB is good, but it is not perfect or flawless like some are claiming. The PLAY is a fun and enjoyable gaming device, but its performance is not superb, it's tolerable. I do not think TLR's or some of these other guys' opinions are applicable to 100% Pure stock Xperia PLAY. One thing that pissed me off when I was pure stock was the internal memory running out. Come on guys and/or gals, stop practicing fanboyism and call a spade a spade.
In regards to the OP saying they're looking for something better. If you still wanna give Sony a second chance, check out the Xperia Z. It's between that and the yet to be announced Galaxy S4 for me. Both have pretty high price tags though if you're buying them unlocked.
Well said TLR and ozzmanj1
Without repeating the flawless statements they have already made , :good: to you guys, right on point!
Is the Xperia Play dead? Do XPlay owners need to grow up and move on? No and No, Im 26 and just got an R800at , ditching Verizon and went to Tmobile. I never found my Play to be slow , sluggish or un responsive. Im running a rooted stock debloated rom with holo launcher and I couldn't be happier, it does everything I need and then some (still to this day) and if were ever in discussion about "you have to root and debloat the XPLay to use it" I honestly root and debloat every android device I own, my entire family uses Droid branded androids and I rooted/debloated all of those as well. Rooted = Liberated !
The developer community here is strong, their are some great minds working on stuff for this device still. Cheers to all of them !
I just also built my 20yr old sister an XPlay and she loves it, she took it over the SG3 for the pure gaming factor (smart choice, especially since SG4 is in the works you would be a fool to buy a SG3 now, and of course I built it for her for free) and I even built one for my 7yr old nephew one, I of course removed and possibilities to make phone calls or text and its not in service, he is just gaming away on it. Hands down, the Xperia Play is a great device and I for one and damn happily to own / use it.
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Whilst I'm not disagreeing with you (the xperia play is not a great phone in stock form, too much bloatware, Sony's stupid habit of low storage on every phone etc) I have to say that it does come into its own when modded, even just rooted. The thing is that most phones feel redundant after 6 months or so now and it seems to be a trend. Apple know it, which is why they release an iPhone every 6 month's. The difference is that some people with buy the new, others will mod the old and make it new again. When I had my iPhone 3g years back it was made redundant early on but after jailbreaking it did multitasking, background wallpapers, folders, everything apple said it couldn't!
The thing is that this is xda developers and the main use for this forum is modifying their phones so if someone criticises then it is obvious that other people will tell them to mod.
Talking of criticism, I have been on this forum for years modding various phones, but have never seen so many people criticising a single handset as they do the XP. It's such a shame as for me it is what I have wanted for so long, something that my N-Gage years ago never managed!!
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well, my first dissapointment was Gameloft games. Standard GL games like 9mm and shadow guardian run on low graphic while galaxy s get the normal version.
I still can't find in any way a good use for a phone with multi-cores, honestly. Faster with everyday use? Come on! As if you use your phone for cement mixing! The Xperia PLAY is just enough for my business and work needs. As for gaming, TOUCHSREEN GAMING SUCKS BALLS BIG TIME. Oh, get an external controller? Hell, no! I won't be lugging that around! I'd rather buy a gaming desktop rig with all that money spent on a high-end device and an external controller.
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I still can't find in any way a good use for a phone with multi-cores, honestly. Faster with everyday use? Come on! As if you use your phone for cement mixing! The Xperia PLAY is just enough for my business and work needs. As for gaming, TOUCHSREEN GAMING SUCKS BALLS BIG TIME. Oh, get an external controller? Hell, no! I won't be lugging that around! I'd rather buy a gaming desktop rig with all that money spent on a high-end device and an external controller.
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I couldn't agree with this more ! :good:
Justinchi said:
I don't think anyone can just knock the OP's post. Without some level of manual software installation or modding, the Play is not flawless. .... It's between that and the yet to be announced Galaxy S4 for me. Both have pretty high price tags though if you're buying them unlocked.
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You are comparing a 2 years old phone, one with single core old CPU technology against a newer gen quadcore device with highend GPU and 5 times the amount of ram.