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Droid 2 OTA coming tonight

OTA coming tonight, for real this time
http://androidapproved.com/item/motorola-rolling-out-droid-2-ota-update-tonight/

Not if you are running Fission. Lol
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It does appear that rooted users need to beware.
I have removed all the bloat except for the 3G AP app, and I can not install the OTA.mainly because i am lazy I am going to SBF and then OTA and re-root.

Tell us if you can root after OTAing

Dumb question from me...
I just recently installed the 2.3.15 leak from Motorola (posted in the forums here). Will it still prompt me to update or do I have to sbf back to stock?

I'm rooted and deodexed, but otherwise stock. Have been checking for updates today and not received the update yet... I should at least see the update, yeS?

I got the update.
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Just following up here as well, do NOT attempt to SBF your device using the current available droid 2 sbf if you get the update. Angdroid/Motoboy was testing it out on his development D2 and it's now a paper weight.
My advice, exercise extreme caution with this OTA, from what I hear you will be stuck with stock D2 MotoBlur for hte time being if you update.

bladearronwey said:
Just following up here as well, do NOT attempt to SBF your device using the current available droid 2 sbf if you get the update. Angdroid/Motoboy was testing it out on his development D2 and it's now a paper weight.
My advice, exercise extreme caution with this OTA, from what I hear you will be stuck with stock D2 MotoBlur for hte time being if you update.
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Thanks for the tip!

I still haven't seen the update and am considering doing a factory reset. Has anyone gotten any information about the performance increase / battery life in the update, is it worthwhile to seek it out?

Is this update for the R2D2 version also?

I have been hitting system update now for a few days. Just a few times a day. I still have not gotten the update. Is there any way to make it go? I figured it would have gotten to me by now.

tgrantjr said:
I have been hitting system update now for a few days. Just a few times a day. I still have not gotten the update. Is there any way to make it go? I figured it would have gotten to me by now.
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Same here ...

at least im not the only one not getting it. Would doing a factory reset possibly kick it to start?

tgrantjr said:
at least im not the only one not getting it. Would doing a factory reset possibly kick it to start?
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Factory reset didn't do it for me. If you really want it, just flash the 2.3.2 SBF

This thread at droidforums has a link to an update file. Probably shorter/easier than applying a new .sbf, but same result.
People are also saying that the 1-2-3 root method will give root back after applying the update.
That said I have not applied either and have still not received the update automatically.

Verizon doesn't push the update to everyone at the same time, different markets will get the update at different times. They do this to not overload the servers

How would I tell if i got the update?

I gave up waiting and applied the update from droidforums using the stock bootloader. Worked like a charm on my stock droid 2. Haven't yet re-rooted since I don't really see a need for root at the moment.

I was able to pull down the update today. It just finished, so no comments or thoughts on it yet.
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I restored the bloatware and unrooted before applying the update. No issues upgrading. I have not tried to apply root again (yet).

Anyone manual root .596 yet?

I would like to use this post to document any way to manual root .596 gingerbread. I know p3droid is doing awesome work building prerooted updates but having a manual route is always nice.
Thank you everyone.
Edit...mistyped version number.
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Its .596 ................

I did. Since I was on the .595 and I had the older radio, I had to SBF back to 2.3.340 first and because of that I had to lose my recent data (last froyo nandroid was two months ago). Anyways it seems to be nearly identical to the .595 once it is up and running. My two cents

I have an X that's running stock Gingerbread, and I'd like to root it. So a manual root method that doesn't require SBFing back to Froyo would be very welcome...

Why does everyone act like SBF'ing is so hard? It takes ten to fifteen minutes and has the same amount if not less risk than flashing a rom

It's not that it is hard, but at least I would hate to loose all my data & time spent setting up the phone.
But if this is the only method of getting root I will be sbf'ing soon. But I wonder what this means for the Droid X2 which I assume is already on GB 596 out of the box. So can the X2 not ever be rooted since there is no 340 to go back too???

I am also curious about manual rooting. I don't have a problem SBF'ing and have done it many times. I would like to learn more about Android and its internals.
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It's not that it is hard, but at least I would hate to loose all my data & time spent setting up the phone.
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I used Titanium Backup to backup all apps and user data, then restore after the upgrade to GB. Don't have to spend a ton of time setting up the phone.

It's the configuring the phone, not the SBF that's the issue
I concur -- SBF is simply, straight forward and quick. The problem is the amount of time it takes to get the phone set up again, especially moving from one flavor of Android to another. I've got 15 minutes to SBF. I don't have the hour or two to fiddle with the apps, configurations, etc.
So I second the call for a method to root stock Gingerbread. I miss my ad blocker...

I have read that gingerbreak works intermittently on some but not all .596 droid x's.
Current method to root works fine thanks to P3droid method 2. If you already have a prerooted 2.2 running the latest OTA you just need two files to install and you will have a .596 rooted droid x. If you jumped the gun and installed the OTA... then yes you need to find a way to root your .596...
Setting up SBF for the first time is not difficult just a little scary. Luckily there are alot of guides out there to help and the bootloader didn't change. Good luck!

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But if this is the only method of getting root I will be sbf'ing soon. But I wonder what this means for the Droid X2 which I assume is already on GB 596 out of the box. So can the X2 not ever be rooted since there is no 340 to go back too???
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its kinda weird but the droid x2 shipps with 2.2.2, just the newer form of blur like the gingerbread droid x has. Also, it has been able to be rooted by gingerbreak so i guess there's some hope.

Manual Gingerbread OTA update is here

Pulling mine as we speak!
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I have also got mine. I am hoping to have root soon. Im not quite sure if there is an easy root for this version. I would look in the other posts, but there are too many custom gb roms out there and leaks im not sure which one would not brick me.
edit. I was wondering with the new folder system if i can somehow hide all the vzw apps so i dont see them anymore. I know someone mentioned it can be done, i just cant find it

Installing mine right now. tgrantjr, I hear ya on the leaked versions. What bothers me is it seems every version released was pre rooted, took the control of root and unroot away from us. When I sbf'd back to froyo, it was a simple one click to unroot and install the ota gb release.

Was on a rooted GB leak and of course couldn't pull jack... SBF'ed to 2.3.34, wipe + reset, OTA kicked in. Boring legitimacy here I come!

[Q] Is the Droid X rootable

I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!

floridatank said:
I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!
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Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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bigshotrob22 said:
Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!

floridatank said:
I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!
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Nope! Like I said its unrootable
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Unrootable...
But that doesn't mean you can't root.
SBF to froyo.
Flash the 2-part gingerbread .zips.
Flash a custom rom (Liberty?)
Or stay on the froyo kernel...
and try MIUI or Cyanogen.

Be careful and read as much as you possibly can before starting. Myself and at least one other on here with the latest iteration of the X have ended up with boot looping or totally non-responsive devices.
I have started a thread with my findings. I am by no means an expert but I do have much experience with rooting devices going all the way back to the PPC6700.
Good luck.

getting stuck in a bootloop is part of the exploration process IMHO.
At least once per new ROM I'll flash something 'just to see what happens' and end up SBF'ing back. Just make backups between steps if you aren't sure about what will happen next.

it would be nice if one of the devs or people who work on rooting or someone in the know would at least comment if we are going to get a real root with the OTA
i mean im running froyo with CM7 but i sure would like the new firmwares for all the radios flashed and then be running CM7
so if someone could give us some kind of update at least saying no one is even remotely working on trying to gain root on 4.5.596 Official OTA or that yea we are working on it but it is a ***** and taken longer then we expected
that lil bit of info goes a long ways
thanks

I am not aware of any dev working on this ATM.

I don't think rooting 596 ota is critical 2nd unit has opened up alot of new doors and the attention has shifted. However I have flashed all of drew gardens latest and ran cm4dx until nightly 47. Now I'm daily MIUI and loving it, despite locked bootloader the cdma_shadow still has alot of options.
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to my understanding .596 has better battery life and signals are better for wifi and cellular (at least more stable and less drops)
i do not know if this is true but i have read/heard alot of ppl saying the battery life is better on .596
after all there is a .596 for some reason and its not a lil bump from 2.2.340 its pretty big
anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it

m16-maniac said:
anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it
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the big deal is that there isn't a readily found exploit for the ota, the pre-rooted was done with a diff. method (brute force? recompiled?) but the versions are the same regardless
no ones holding back a secret root method, there just isn't a dev interested in spending huge amounts of time to recreate what already exists
i think it would be interesting to create a batch script that sbf's a phone and installs the pre-rooted .596 but all hidden behind a random animation so the user doesn't see what's happening. if i call it a 'one click' root method lots of people who don't seem to want to take the readily available pre-rooted gb for whatever reason would likely be happy. yeah i understand that if it includes a sbf then data may get lost, but if i said in the instructions of my 'app' that it would happen and they should have backups, people would still likely use it
sorry, but i just don't understand why so many people who want root are seemingly against using the pre-rooted option, as most of them don't have the knowledge to find an exploit or a root method from scratch themselves, so they are still using the work of someone else...

<Disclaimer>I'm going out on a limb here with limited knowledge of the X. <End disclaimer>
From what I read and I don't remember where, the rooting of an X involves a 2nd init method by which it takes control of the initial init. I believe I read the original init isn't able to be exploited and this is the basis of some of the more complicated methods of rooting the X.
If someone knows more about this please correct me or chime in.
I had an Incredible prior. The rooting was more comprehensive and simple. I believe that is because the bootstrap and recovery were not as difficult to get into. That being said, personally, I may be going back to another HTC device if the folks light years smarter than me aren't interested in developing a root method like the other devices out there.

[.621] Update Breaks SBFing

Update 4.5.5.621 is live and breaks the ability to SBF back to an earlier version.
Only take the update if your willing to lose the ability to SBF. A fix is in the works but there is no ETA.
If you decide to update, there is no way to root, but OTA Root Keeper can be used to retain root.
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I am rooted on. 605 and im gonna update will this hurt my phone
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htcdroidincredible23 said:
I am rooted on. 605 and im gonna update will this hurt my phone
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No, but be aware that you will not be able to return to .605 or earlier, and you will lose root unless you use OTA Root Keeper.
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infazzdar said:
Update 4.5.5.621 is live and breaks the ability to SBF back to an earlier version.
Only take the update if your willing to lose the ability to SBF. A fix is in the works but there is no ETA.
If you decide to update, there is no way to root, but OTA Root Keeper can be used to retain root.
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I was on stock .605 with 1 click root then updated with the .621 OTA and after it was done I still had root. Verified by running Root Explorer and Titanium Backup.
Update: After reading a response to this post I decided to try and see if I could get root access with any new apps that were not installed prior to the .621 update and I have discovered that I cannot. So user trebuchet76 (the one that had questioned my results) had the right suspicion that I didn't really have root anymore but rather the apps I had installed prior to the .621 update that had root kept it after the update but new apps will not get root access.

I can't install the update
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I'm running Liberty 3 ROM, and am quite happy with it. However, I've seen this SBF issue posted here and other places.
A few questions:
- can I update without flashing back to stock .605 (understanding I need to use OTA root keeper to keep root access)?
- once I do that, will I need to flash Liberty back on the phone again?
Basically, my DX was a total piece of crap until I switched off the Verizon stock .605 update. I would rather not lose the freedom I have now and be forced to stay with Blur and whatever other bloatware is installed by Verizon. In all likelihood I'll be upgrading in a few months anyway, and Liberty has made my phone not only tolerable, but fun again. I'd rather skip the update entirely than go back to the stock ROMs from Verizon.
Actually, my next phone choice will probably be based on how easy it is to root... ;-)

mikecico said:
I'm running Liberty 3 ROM, and am quite happy with it. However, I've seen this SBF issue posted here and other places.
A few questions:
- can I update without flashing back to stock .605 (understanding I need to use OTA root keeper to keep root access)?
- once I do that, will I need to flash Liberty back on the phone again?
Basically, my DX was a total piece of crap until I switched off the Verizon stock .605 update. I would rather not lose the freedom I have now and be forced to stay with Blur and whatever other bloatware is installed by Verizon. In all likelihood I'll be upgrading in a few months anyway, and Liberty has made my phone not only tolerable, but fun again. I'd rather skip the update entirely than go back to the stock ROMs from Verizon.
Actually, my next phone choice will probably be based on how easy it is to root... ;-)
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Don't update! You won't be able to flash Liberty, and you won't be able to flash back to .605 to install Liberty.
If you update there is no going back. Ever.
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What about a hard reset. Then root shut off ota then sfb 605 re_root shut ff ota again ? Could this work?

BridgeScore said:
What about a hard reset. Then root shut off ota then sfb 605 re_root shut ff ota again ? Could this work?
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If you are on .605 or below disabling the OTA Updater will keep you from updating, but once you update there is no going back.
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i hadn't seen this thread when I took the ota. tried to sbf using rsd lite 4.8 and the following sbf files, 2.3.34, 4.5.596, and the latest 2.3.4-4.5.1. found the last one through a Google search, it said it would work but it doesn't. so my old dx is currently out of commission. i wanted to use it as media player but i guess that's not going to happen right now.
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marculous said:
i hadn't seen this thread when I took the ota. tried to sbf using rsd lite 4.8 and the following sbf files, 2.3.34, 4.5.596, and the latest 2.3.4-4.5.1. found the last one through a Google search, it said it would work but it doesn't. so my old dx is currently out of commission. i wanted to use it as media player but i guess that's not going to happen right now.
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The .621 SBF should work. Make sure your battery is charged and try SBFing again. If RSD Lite doesn't work try using Linux.
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infazzdar said:
The .621 SBF should work. Make sure your battery is charged and try SBFing again. If RSD Lite doesn't work try using Linux.
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it still failed and now battery is too low to program and dx won't leave bootloader with battery in.
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You have to use RSD 5.4 or higher with the .621 sbf.

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Appears that keeping my .605 is a good thing, how do I disable the updater??

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You have to use RSD 5.4 or higher with the .621 sbf.
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is there a way to charge the battery? only bootloader screen comes up with battery in, says code corrupt, battery too low to program.
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marculous said:
is there a way to charge the battery? only bootloader screen comes up with battery in, says code corrupt, battery too low to program.
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You can strip the red and black wires in a USB cable and place the exposed copper to their respective battery terminals while the battery is in the phone.
This will allow you to SBF the device.
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Just thought I'd share this.............
So yesterday I figured I try to get root back and if anything it would brick the phone and there was an sbf to get it back. At least to .621 stock. Well I did the one click root ( droid3 i believe it was, with of course with droid 2 bootstrap ). So it put my phone back into clockworkmod and I was able to wipe everything including the dalvic cache and restored my phone to a backup I had from stock .605 that was rooted but no rom installed. It actually worked no brick, no nothing. So I ran the D2 bootstrap and went back into cwm and restored to another backup I had with liberty 2.0 running.....and that also worked. Now, I was surprised it actually worked so I went into about phone and confirmed! It did say .605. So I was ecstatic!
I was prepared to brick my phone (which wouldn't be the first or second time anyway) but glad it all worked out. Now im back to being rooted and running 4.5.605.

infazzdar said:
You can strip the red and black wires in a USB cable and place the exposed copper to their respective battery terminals while the battery is in the phone.
This will allow you to SBF the device.
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going to try that this morning, and thanks for the tip.
holy **** it worked with rsd lite 4.8 after wiring split USB to battery. you are awesome.
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marculous said:
going to try that this morning, and thanks for the tip.
holy **** it worked with rsd lite 4.8 after wiring split USB to battery. you are awesome.
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I'm glad you got it worked out =D
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I'm on CM4DXGB, the only update's I will EVER take again for my DX is the ones the ROM devs put out, screw Moto's crap!