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[Q] Defy Plus MIUI

I am currently trying to get full battery of my defy+ to work under MIUI. Being CM based i assumed it would work with the CM battery patch. It doesn't however. I know which files need to be replaced, would it be a good idea to just grab the files from the CM9 defy+ build and replace them?
For those that are interested doesn't work = battery only showing full with question mark icon.

Having same problem and seems there is total silence in all forums concerning this issue. If you manage to solve it please let me know !

Hey, guys I'm using MIUI Pikachu Edition by einsteinno1 and it has full DEFY+ support (battery charges up to 100%)
It's overall an awesome ROM, after trying CM7.2, latest WIUI and MS2G v3, Pikachu is the best one for me.
My DEFY+ was on 2.3.5, so I flashed it down to Froyo before flashing Pikachu
Cheers!

I have the same Defy 2.3.5 but I don't know how to install a diffrent ROM/interface ...

iceguy0585 said:
I have the same Defy 2.3.5 but I don't know how to install a diffrent ROM/interface ...
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Search this wonderful Forum - There are many threads telling you how to install a new ROM / interface

Well then I will definitely give Miui Pikachu edition a try As far as I understand Froyo version is the best to use to flash Miui right ?

Hi all,
About the Defy+ battery. This battery is only support by GB kernel. So nevermind the patch you applied, you'll always have a bad result. This patch works on CM 7.2 Defy + because this rom doesn't incluse the kernel and use the GB one of your phone.
So the only solution is what nisky+ said... Flash before the 2.3.6 SBF on the dev forum who allow you to flash a Froyo kernel first...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=855

DeanSebastian said:
Well then I will definitely give Miui Pikachu edition a try As far as I understand Froyo version is the best to use to flash Miui right ?
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Froyo is the safest way, yes, and it will work without problems. It should work when flashed over 2.3.4, too, but I haven't tried that, myself.
@mdt24 Then how come I don't have battery problems now when Froyo's kernel is used
P.S. It's niksy, not nisky

Hi niksy ;-)
It's because I think this rom doesn't incluse kernel, so you always run a 2.3.4 GB Kernel...
quote from Miui Pikachu edition : IMPORANT!!! this Rom works only on Defy or Defy+ with Froyo Kernel or Gingerbread 2.3.4/5 Kernel. All with 2.3.6 Kernel have to downgrade to Froyo Kernel, because the new Motorola Kernel won't work with MIUI. Just use this Tutorial on XDA Developers
But I could be wrong in my deduction, so Please, can you give us the number of the kernel you have with this pikachu rom ?...

What I did before was downgrade from 2.3.6 using the sbf the dev provided that allows you to downgrade to froyo then I flashed Miui official rom and still had problems with battery. Kernel version currently is : 2.6.32.9gb08c3c8 if that makes any sense to you cause I personally just don't know anything bout kernels... I just downloaded pikachu Miui and will give a try soon and share the results with you

Hey all, thanks for the replies. I already know about the limitations of the patch and which versions the driver works with. That is why i flashed the 2.3.4 kernel before using MIUI and therefore the defy + patch. I just don't get why it doesn't work, do i need to use a defy+ kernel?
I will grab the files used in the working MIUI Defy+ rom and package them as a flashable .zip for other users.

mdt24 said:
Hi niksy ;-)
It's because I think this rom doesn't incluse kernel, so you always run a 2.3.4 GB Kernel...
quote from Miui Pikachu edition : IMPORANT!!! this Rom works only on Defy or Defy+ with Froyo Kernel or Gingerbread 2.3.4/5 Kernel. All with 2.3.6 Kernel have to downgrade to Froyo Kernel, because the new Motorola Kernel won't work with MIUI. Just use this Tutorial on XDA Developers
But I could be wrong in my deduction, so Please, can you give us the number of the kernel you have with this pikachu rom ?...
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Mate, you are right about the ROM, it doesn't include any kernel, but I said that I flashed that special version 6 Froyo (that's a full sbf) before flashing Pikachu!

DeanSebastian said:
What I did before was downgrade from 2.3.6 using the sbf the dev provided that allows you to downgrade to froyo then I flashed Miui official rom and still had problems with battery. Kernel version currently is : 2.6.32.9gb08c3c8 if that makes any sense to you cause I personally just don't know anything bout kernels... I just downloaded pikachu Miui and will give a try soon and share the results with you
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The kernel you mentionned is a froyo kernel...
As you all I try to understand why it's possible that the defy+'s battery works or not with the patch. It's sure it works with a 2.3.6 GB kernel and a patch for the system (battd, lib) used by the rom if the new rom doesn't include a kernel.
It seems that if the rom include a froyo kernel the patch doesn't work...
So... may be a way to understand
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niksy+ said:
Mate, you are right about the ROM, it doesn't include any kernel, but I said that I flashed that special version 6 Froyo (that's a full sbf) before flashing Pikachu!
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Yes but I'm pretty sure than this special version has a GB kernel. It's just the bootloader who accept all kind of kernel...
Check your Kernel number, I think you must have something like this 2.6.32.9-gbdd614e...

Ok after some testing I can tell you that the battery charged to 100% only the first time I booted.Since then it has only charged till 90%. I also did calibrate the battery the first time I flashed the Rom but no results

mdt24 said:
Yes but I'm pretty sure than this special version has a GB kernel. It's just the bootloader who accept all kind of kernel...
Check your Kernel number, I think you must have something like this 2.6.32.9-gbdd614e...
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It's 2.6.32.9-gb08c3c8 - the one you said it's Froyo Just checked!
And for the battery... First time it charged to 100%, this time it stuck at 90%. Quite weird... But, that is with Froyo kernel, as we've come to conclude.
But, on the other hand, my bro's got a DEFY+, too, with CM7.2 on it and with Gingerbread kernel (27th January DEFY+ nightly) and the battery goes to 100% every time. I will test Pikachu on a Gingerbread kernel, cause I can't really live with this bug :-/ Will let you know how it went, now I'm off to find a 2.3.4 sbf!

I had the same idea and have already downloaded a full 2.3.4 GB sbf to check just that !
i wish a 2.3.4 GB kernel can fix that, although I think the only kernel able to fix this is 2.3.5 and above

Hi.. I m new to android... I just want to ask how can I add music contol to notification toogle bar like that in cm mod..... I m using pikachu edition on my defy plus and its really great ... I haven't faced any problem till now.. thank u dev for such a beautiful rom...

hey buddy....i was runing on 2.3.5 than i tried a rom called [Retail British] here ; http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_jordanplus/list.php
then
i upgreade it by automatic update so it became 2.3.6
then i again flash it through [Retail British] after that my device not able to power on just with white led light but i'm able to flash the device ..so can u suggest me a suitable rom for my device [Motorola defy+] ??
HELP pls

Thanks !!
mdt24 said:
Hi niksy
It's because I think this rom doesn't incluse kernel, so you always run a 2.3.4 GB Kernel...
quote from Miui Pikachu edition : IMPORANT!!! this Rom works only on Defy or Defy+ with Froyo Kernel or Gingerbread 2.3.4/5 Kernel. All with 2.3.6 Kernel have to downgrade to Froyo Kernel, because the new Motorola Kernel won't work with MIUI. Just use this Tutorial on XDA Developers
But I could be wrong in my deduction, so Please, can you give us the number of the kernel you have with this pikachu rom ?...
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Thanks for ur Info.. tried to install Pikachu edition on my Defy+ 2.3.6 nd failed. But now using CM10..

[Q] Motorola Defy Kernels

hi guys, I would like to ask experienced users what is the difference between the kernels we used on our Defy(s)
Froyo Kernel vs Gingerbread kernel vs Walter79's Kernel
I first encountered this kernel upon viewing the CM9 update thread
I have a red lense defy and the very first rom I flashed was the official CM7.1 so I am aware I do have a Froyo Kernel running on this bad boy.
what is the difference/ advantages?
which is better?
is it safe to flash one over the other?
is it easy to flash? like how we flash roms? we can always go back to to Froyo kernel from the gingerbread or walter kernel and vice versa?
I think a lot of noobs would appreciate your answers.
I will edit this post and add your answers so that others may find it useful as well
some answers--------------------------------------------
arpith.fbi said:
what is the difference/ advantages?
Ans:My experience says that the main advantage of using GB kernel is battery life..
Defy-4.5.3-109_DPP-11-kernel is well known for awesome battery life.
which is better?
Ans: I personally think Walter79's kernel is better in every sense.Unfortunately for old defy owners(SOC camera green lens), camera wont work on new kernels without any extra fix..
is it safe to flash one over the other?
Ans: Yea its 100% safe..i personally never had any problem as such..but i heard few people faced bootloop..in any case you can always go back to froyo or watever kernel u were using
is it easy to flash? like how we flash roms? we can always go back to to Froyo kernel from the gingerbread or walter kernel and vice versa?
Ans: As i have already mentioned above, we can always switch between these kernels..just remember not to flash any GB kernel based sbf or else u will be stuck! before flashing any unknown or less known kernel PLEASE USE THE SEARCH option and know more about the kernel and related problems.
All the best
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CjRudi said:
i would add, that many people state that GB kernel (2.3) has much better 3d performance - games are running much better than on froyo kernel.
It's easy and safe to switch between kernels, you should only remember that switching kernel must come with installing appropriate rom
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what is the difference/ advantages?
Ans:My experience says that the main advantage of using GB kernel is battery life..
Defy-4.5.3-109_DPP-11-kernel is well known for awesome battery life.
which is better?
Ans: I personally think Walter79's kernel is better in every sense.Unfortunately for old defy owners(SOC camera green lens), camera wont work on new kernels without any extra fix..
is it safe to flash one over the other?
Ans: Yea its 100% safe..i personally never had any problem as such..but i heard few people faced bootloop..in any case you can always go back to froyo or watever kernel u were using
is it easy to flash? like how we flash roms? we can always go back to to Froyo kernel from the gingerbread or walter kernel and vice versa?
Ans: As i have already mentioned above, we can always switch between these kernels..just remember not to flash any GB kernel based sbf or else u will be stuck! before flashing any unknown or less known kernel PLEASE USE THE SEARCH option and know more about the kernel and related problems.
All the best

thanks for the answer, somehow it has enlightened me
any more answers? which kernels allow 720p recording?

i would add, that many people state that GB kernel (2.3) has much better 3d performance - games are running much better than on froyo kernel.
It's easy and safe to switch between kernels, you should only remember that switching kernel must come with installing appropriate rom

arpith.fbi said:
what is the difference/ advantages?
Ans:My experience says that the main advantage of using GB kernel is battery life..
Defy-4.5.3-109_DPP-11-kernel is well known for awesome battery life.
which is better?
Ans: I personally think Walter79's kernel is better in every sense.Unfortunately for old defy owners(SOC camera green lens), camera wont work on new kernels without any extra fix..
is it safe to flash one over the other?
Ans: Yea its 100% safe..i personally never had any problem as such..but i heard few people faced bootloop..in any case you can always go back to froyo or watever kernel u were using
is it easy to flash? like how we flash roms? we can always go back to to Froyo kernel from the gingerbread or walter kernel and vice versa?
Ans: As i have already mentioned above, we can always switch between these kernels..just remember not to flash any GB kernel based sbf or else u will be stuck! before flashing any unknown or less known kernel PLEASE USE THE SEARCH option and know more about the kernel and related problems.
All the best
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Thanks for this information bro!!
Please also share Camera fix (link) for GB kernel for SOC Camera and also mentioned whether downgrade is possible. Your help will be appreciated.

anyone correct me but we can do dual boot but can't install dual kernels?
say
cm7 (froyo kernel ) as system
cm9 (gingerbread kernel) on SD
and will Gingerbread kernel work with cm7 for the defy, red lense?

chachoi said:
anyone correct me but we can do dual boot but can't install dual kernels?
say
cm7 (froyo kernel ) as system
cm9 (gingerbread kernel) on SD
and will Gingerbread kernel work with cm7 for the defy, red lense?
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No, can't do it. Both ROM's should share the same kernel.

thanks Auris, would you be able to add anything or negate anything that was previously posted about the Defy Kernels?

Please help me a bit with those kernels! I have a defy+ with 2.3.6 base and one of those newest official build nandroids. Can I flash Walter's kernel? ^^
Just don't want any bootloader error!
Sent from my Defy+ using xda premium (app needs update!)

M on froyo kernel running cm7.2
Can I flash gb kernel? Also m having green lens.
Will the camera work on walters69 kernel?
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thanks
thanks, guys. i've been looking for the answers

Is it okay to flash defy+ rom zip and then the gb kernel on a green lens defy? To me battery life is more important than camera

chachoi said:
thanks for the answer, somehow it has enlightened me
any more answers? which kernels allow 720p recording?
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Walter79's kernel allows 720p recording for defy red lens.

Defy kernel Flash
i have a motorola defy green lens currently running cm9 4.0.4 (camera's not working but i don't care much for the camera ) . ok here's my problem i'm trying to flash a different kernel on my defy.. the current kernel im running is 2.6.32.9 cdt 2011 but i need better performance and i tried to flash semaphore kernel. the flash was successful but i see no changes and also in the settings>about phone the kernel version hasnt changed. i need help so that i can flash new kernel properly.. thanks

Hi!
I realize this is a very old thread, but it seems to be one of the few addressing the (dis)advantages of the froyo vs the GB kernel (independently of the ROM!).
The 720p-recording is really not important to me, but battery life is and I just read here that it would be better on GB kernel.
Do any of you have further experience with regards to battery-life difference between Froyo and GB kernels (not ROMs)!? Is it a big difference (to what extent or through which features?)
I have a MB525 with red lens and Froyo kernel, so I could go for a GB-kernel.
I've recently rooted my smartphone and flashed WIUI (3.1.27, GB&MIUI-based) on it, because (1) my phone was slowing down, (2) I wanted not to have any bloatware anymore and (3) I wanted some apps that only run on Gingerbread/2.3+ (e.g. the offline-language-package-feature from Google Translate). Almost everything is now better.
BUT, my battery life got worse! I've now down-volted my smartphone to a stable point and set it to 'smartassv2', but am looking for further improvement for the battery life. As WIUI can be installed both on froyo and GB-kernel, I might also update the Kernel...but only want to take the plunge if it really would make a difference...
any advice or experience is welcome!

[Q]Latest/Best Kernels for Froyo and Gingerbread

For the sake of updatedness, what are the best kernels for Froyo and Gingerbread?
Also, I flashed a GB kernel to try out a CM9 build. Now I want to install the official 7.2 RC. I need to flash a Froyo kernel again right?

There are no custom kernels for the defy as it has a locked bootloader, only the official signed motorola ones, the froyo which came with defy and gb which came with defy+.
For cm7 you need froyo kernel, just reflash it. Cm9 have 2 builds - one for froyo kernel and one for gb kernel. I think the green lense defys may only work with froyo kernel.
Sent from my MB526 using XDA

sim0t said:
There are no custom kernels for the defy as it has a locked bootloader, only the official signed motorola ones, the froyo which came with defy and gb which came with defy+.
For cm7 you need froyo kernel, just reflash it. Cm9 have 2 builds - one for froyo kernel and one for gb kernel. I think the green lense defys may only work with froyo kernel.
Sent from my MB526 using XDA
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What abt the DHT kernel from Walter. I think its not ripped from defy or defy+.
It is used in Motoginger roms

Hi, sorry for my first noob question ...
Quite the same question as the original :
I found here on the github (I can't post link) that 2.2.2-177 & 2.2.2-179 have a different Kernel hashes 2.6.32.9-ga28fcc4 or 2.6.32.9-gb08c3c8.
I thought the latest CM7.2 were containing the lastest kernel id 179.
When I look at mine I have 2.6.32.9-ga28fcc4, which seems to be 177 ...
I'm actually on cm7.2 20120509-NIGHTLY-jordan, from the official nightlies ...
here (on the dowload page from Epsylon3, can't post ...) i found the 179 kernel, would it be necessary to flash it in order to have a matching kernel with the lastest nightlies ?
Only talking of froyo kernels ...

sim0t said:
There are no custom kernels for the defy as it has a locked bootloader, only the official signed motorola ones, the froyo which came with defy and gb which came with defy+.
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So do I think. However some people are often saying that they flashed a cm9 or whatever kernel... what do they mean by this.
P.S.: There are some attempts to boot another kernel with the help of kexec/2ndboot, but currently only with minor succes afaik.

[Q] Help the noob!

Hey guys,
My wife was complaning about her Defy being slow so i dediced to take a look and install a custom rom. As a SGS 2 user, i'm very confused with Defy
My wife has;
MB525 (i assume this is Defy not Defy+) with Android 2.2.1 and Green Lens
I've read lots of topics and understood the rooting process, etc. but my biggest confusion is with the kernel and roms. I'm seeing froyo and GB kernel, what is the difference between them? Which kernel should i use for my Defy? The roms are kernel specific? If i have froyo or GB kernel, i can't use some roms?
And lastly, which roms you guys recommend?
Thanks in advance!

first of all Motorola sucks!!!
defy's bootloader is locked..so no custom kernel...hence we use official kernels..
as u know dere r 2 kernels..ICS and GB kernel..defy with green lens can use only froyo kernel..if u flash a GB kernel on defy with green lens then u wont have camera(dere is a patch)..
and i think all roms support froyo kernel..so u shouldn't be having any problem..
new defy with red lens and defy+ can run gb kernel..dere isnt much difference in performance between gb and froyo kernel but gb kernel give better battery life..thats the only visible difference..
Go through guides and threads and i m sure u will understand better..
try many roms..start with CM7..then jump to CM9..if u get bored then do try WajkMIUI..they look pretty good
Welcome to the world of Locked Bootloader

The ROM I would recommend
I have exactly the same phone as you have. The best ROM would be:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
Its Android version 2.3.7
Its from Quarx and its fast, stable and give long battery up time. You can trust it 100%.
ICS is under development.
Please hit the Thanks button if this was useful.

The defy+ is basically the defy with a better battery, 100% red lenses and official gingerbread. Therefor the kernel for the defy+ is called the gingerbread kernel.
In this kernel there it's only support for the red lens module. So you can't use your cam on this kernel.
(flashing this kernel is done best from recovery as you have no danger of not ably to go back).
A ROM made for one kernel can't be used on an other.
The other thing is the battery. Most defy+ roms use the battery files of the defy+. I think the builds from epsy use tyre defy files (he doesn't have a defy+) although this just needs a patch.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA

arpith.fbi said:
first of all Motorola sucks!!!
defy's bootloader is locked..so no custom kernel...hence we use official kernels..
as u know dere r 2 kernels..ICS and GB kernel..defy with green lens can use only froyo kernel..if u flash a GB kernel on defy with green lens then u wont have camera(dere is a patch)..
and i think all roms support froyo kernel..so u shouldn't be having any problem..
new defy with red lens and defy+ can run gb kernel..dere isnt much difference in performance between gb and froyo kernel but gb kernel give better battery life..thats the only visible difference..
Go through guides and threads and i m sure u will understand better..
try many roms..start with CM7..then jump to CM9..if u get bored then do try WajkMIUI..they look pretty good
Welcome to the world of Locked Bootloader
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You mean there is a patch to make the camera work with a gb kernel and green lens defy? I can't find any...

[Q] how to install GB kernel on froyo CM9

hello guys, thanks for all the patience with me haha, but i dont understand it anymore.. im currently running CM9 from epps on my red lens defy with froyo kernel.
Since its a little bit to buggy for me i want to change to a different CM9 but also want the GB kernel.
What to do? just download the CM9 GB build and install it just the same way as i did with CM9 froyo kernel?
I found a thread on this forum that seems really complicated and a little bit to mutch work but i want to do it the right way and not mess up my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14976942#post14976942

With the rom you should flash the attached cm9 kernel
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pjgowtham said:
With the rom you should flash the attached cm9 kernel
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so i just download GB build CM9, put the zip on my sd card, install it and then its done?

U should also download cm9 kernel.zip from the auris's thread in defy general thread, flash it also..
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yeaaay it worked, pretty awesome. also it didnt delete anything from my phone which comes in pretty handy when updating the rom. so i dont have to backup everything again. camera is working fine also!

I'm in the same situation. What I want is to install the GB kernel, and yet remain on my CM9, and still be able to flash my original stock froyo SBF if need be, and was wondering if it would just be enough to flash the GB kernel found in Epsylon3's site, and if so, which one (since there are two there)? Secondly, would that GB kernel enable all 4 CPU frequencies?
I'm still on my original stock SBF, which is JORLA_U3_3.4.2_108-2, and has CG31.smg version = 4
Third, would I be able to flash Defy+ ROMs, such as the CM10 roms developed by Quarx, which, as far as I understand, have a custom kernel, and yet still be able to flash back to my original stock froyo SBF?