Anyone know where I can get the Elan Alpha drivers that came with windows 8 release preview or someone with release already installed extract them because apparently those are the only working drivers that work with the charm/start menu feature. I'm running RTM.
Can someone please answer?
http://mnfl.ucoz.com/forum/4-453-1
Recently I upgraded my laptop OS to Windows 10 Enterprise N
my Note 3 could not be recognized as MTP .Even Samsung Kies nor Smart Switch would not be installed on my laptop
error message pops up (you need to install reinstall Windows Media Feature Pack
I directed to Microsoft site (.microsoft.com/en-us/download/confirmation.aspx?id=48231), installed KB3099229, but I can not find Windows10-KB3010081-x64.msu (error)
any help!
Any reply Gents? !
zakizero said:
Any reply Gents? !
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Could be your version of Windows
I'm running Windows 10 Pro & both my Note 3's are recognised with no issues
On phone is rooted running Phronesis ROM and one is standard stock so it looks like it's a Windows issue you have
My note 3 is not rooted and the windows 10 enterprise N 64 bit
Have you installed Lastest samsung usb drivers?
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My note 3 is not rooted and the windows 10 enterprise N 64 bit
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Did you follow Microsofts instructions .
Did you search your question.
Usual reasons are no drivers .
Not Samsung cable .
No reason for Kies not to install on Win 10 retail versions anyway .
I have installed the latest drivers for note 3
Use another PC if you have followed all the instructions posted .
Since the release of build 14915, I'm trying to update my Windows 10 Pro build 14905 to the latest Insider build, but Windows Update says that I'm already up-to-date! It can't find the update to install
How I can update to latest build?
I'm on Insider fast ring, and never got a problem like this
(sorry if my english is bad)
Me:
"Any ETA on releasing the EMUI 5.0 kernel source for the US Honor 8 FRD-L04? If EMUI is not going to keep up with the Android security patches (Still on December and it's almost April) I'd like to switch to a custom ROM that will. However that can't happen without the kernel source."
Honor USA:
"Good morning John, thank you for your great question. could you provide me with the build number on your device so that I can check on the system to see if the update to the emui 5.0 is available or not. Thank you for choosing Huawei and I hope you have a great day."
Me:
"I already have EMUI 5.0 build FRD-L04C567B360 on my phone. What I'm looking for is the EMUI 5.0 kernel source code for my device. Honor/Huawei is required to release the kernel source if requested since you're distributing binaries built off the Linux kernel source code which is distributed under the GPLv2 license."
Honor USA:
"Hello John, Thank your for contacting us, in regard your inquiry, first we need the Model of your device, in order to take a better care of you."
Me:
"Then read the software build number I gave you. The model number is the first 6 digits FRD-L04. How can you not know that?"
Quite a disappointing answer from Honor USA
Well, or just pretending :laugh:
Try to not write some many sentences with so many potential topics.
Just ask: when will Huawei release the kernel source of Nougat as is required by the Linux GPL license.
Make it maybe even clearer: Huawei is currently violating the GPL license as the kernel sources for Nougat are not released yet. When will this violation stop?
faeArai said:
Try to not write some many sentences with so many potential topics.
Just ask: when will Huawei release the kernel source of Nougat as is required by the Linux GPL license.
Make it maybe even clearer: Huawei is currently violating the GPL license as the kernel sources for Nougat are not released yet. When will this violation stop?
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I posted the question on the Honor 8 Google+ today.
Just a straight question.
Are you going to give us this code
I have also been posting on Thier Facebook pages.
If we all keep doing this they will release just to shut us up (i hope)
Also patches for all the bugs in EMUI5, and a potential release date for EMUI5.1
Either way, it's my last Huawei phone. They clearly don't care. Very disappointing.
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Also patches for all the bugs in EMUI5, and a potential release date for EMUI5.1
Either way, it's my last Huawei phone. They clearly don't care. Very disappointing.
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They are not going to release to us EMUI 5.1
They have said that they will release us an update with extra features after June but not EMUI 5.1
Why i don't know.
I got an email back from Honors Facebook page.
They asked me for a screenshot of the page on my phone that says that i need kernel source code !!
This shows what we are dealing with here.
The guys at Honor ain't got a clue.
I'm guessing that EMUI is just handed down to them from Hauawi and Honor have no control or say over releasing anything
My answer from Honor USA Facebook
We have limited information on the specific kernel source code based on specific countries, as different countries will have different procedures. We suggest to refer back to Honor United Kingdom customer care at 08000 886 700 or 0800 088 6900 for better assistance. Or alternatively, you may click on the below link to find out more:
http://consumer.huawei.com/uk/support/faqs/detail/index.htm?id=77412
Those guys who are dealing with Facebook and Google+ have no idea or way to help us with the kernel code
John
The Facebook groups are only there to answer stupid questions like where can I buy this phone or what colours option is this phone available in? No tech questions what so ever.... I've given up hope on Huawei long time ago.
Honor is launching a beta program for its current hardware and upcoming software.
http://www.androidcentral.com/honor-wants-few-brave-americans-beta-test-its-buggiest-software
I doubt they're clueless. If anything the facebook rep was instructed to avoid the question, because he isn't allowed to share info about it.
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They are not going to release to us EMUI 5.1
They asked me for a screenshot of the page on my phone that says that i need kernel source code !!
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Go to Settings ->About Phone -> Legal Information -> Open Source Licenses
And you can screenshot that first section right there that say they will provide you with a copy of kernel source code if you request it.
Ok.
So that's what they are wanting.
Thank you
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anks329 said:
Go to Settings ->About Phone -> Legal Information -> Open Source Licenses
And you can screenshot that first section right there that say they will provide you with a copy of kernel source code if you request it.
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I have done it.
Don't think they have a clue
You have to take into account that the kernel, as well as every other part of the operating system is built in China, specifically, in their Jenkins instance, that's why neither Honor USA nor Honor UK will (be able to) help you.
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You have to take into account that the kernel, as well as every other part of the operating system is built in China, specifically, in their Jenkins instance, that's why neither Honor USA nor Honor UK will (be able to) help you.
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I get that but what else can we do.
We need to get them listening some how and i don't speak Chinese !!!
So I finally found Huawei's instructions for requesting the Honor 8 EMUI 4.1 opensource software here.
Here's the contents of the readme.txt file within the FRD-L04_MM_EMUI4_1_opensource.zip file:
Huawei Device Co., Ltd ("Huawei")is pleased to provide you the corresponding open source code of the device. If you want the code, please contact us with an email titled "Open Source Codes Issue" to [email protected]. Please note we may charge you the cost of physically performing source distribution like sending you a CD of the Open Source Codes, if you reqest. And the code download link will be ready soon.
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I sent an email following their instructions requesting the EMUI 5.0 source code. We'll see if I get any response.
If not, the next step is probably to involve the Free Software Foundation (www.fsf.org). There is a page at http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html describing how to report GPL violations.
There is a file at /etc/NOTICE.html.gz on the Honor 8 that contains a NOTICE.html listing all? of the opensource licensed software on the device and the specific license covering each file. One possible avenue is the f2fs software that's copyright Samsung Electronics and released under the GPLv2. They might be willing to enforce their copyright on a competitor...
But what really is the issue with the kernel? Didn't they at least released the emui 4.1 source (and so the blobs needed)?
Can't this be used in a modern kernel, too?
Even if they release emui 5 kernel, what happens, let say with lineage 15 or 16 when there is no newer emui kernel?
How do other projects handle this, as there still are new versions of lineage for old devices?
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But what really is the issue with the kernel? Didn't they at least released the emui 4.1 source (and so the blobs needed)?
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Yes, they released emui 4 kernel, I don't know what do you mean with 'the blobs needed'.
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Even if they release emui 5 kernel, what happens, let say with lineage 15 or 16 when there is no newer emui kernel?
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We'll use the latest kernel then.
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How do other projects handle this, as there still are new versions of lineage for old devices?
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Because 'other projects' OEM's do release the kernel source.
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Why does this affect development? Let's make clear the kernel / userspace barrier, the kernel is (supposed to be) open source while the userspace drivers are not, so it makes sense to use the Nougat (proprietary) pre-built drivers because they'll work better with the Android framework, but those drivers are 'tied' to the kernel. It would be an option to rollback to the emui 4 kernel, but that would also mean to use the closed source userspace drivers.
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If we want to use the newer libraries, we need the newer kernel
I doubt it that other companies release source code for devices not longer supported. There always is an end of life and still lineage comes up with new releases for those devices.
There is still new lineage for Nexus 4 or 5 or even older devices that also needed binary drivers and from my understanding those drivers are not open source, are they? With blobs i mean the binary files.
If i remember rightly, the only device with fully open source drivers is HTC HD2 since the drivers where reverse engineered back than in the good old days.
So why can't we take the binary drivers from emui 4 and use them with some adaptation to the interface in newer kernel versions as i assume is done for other devices as there are no more official updates?
Granted I'm not a developer, but I had wondered something similar -- can we cross-compile using the closed binaries from MM using a 4.1.18 kernel version.