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[Poll] Anyone switching to G2x?

I'm strongly thinking about it as it is very tempting! Stock Android (soon to get CM7 which I'm currently using on my N1), bigger screen, dual-core, and HDMI-out (mirroring too). What do you guys think?

Went to Tmobile store today and played with one. It felt solid and seemed to perform fast around the launcher & home screens. But it just didn't feel that much different than my N1 and I don't like the large soft button space at the bottom. I'm holding out for the Pyramid now rumored to be here June 8th.

The Pyramid/Sensation looks absolutely amazing in terms of hardware; can't deny that. But HTC going the locked-bootloader route worries me. And the fact that Cyanogen himself bought a G2x makes it even more awesome. I love my N1 but I think I'm definitely going for a G2x, Sensation, or Galaxy S II this year.

Are you guys experience slow down on your n1? Cuz I am. My quadrant score on 6.1 was high running at 1113 MHz. Now its on cm7 stable release and the highest it can get is 1398. To back that up, sense preview isn't smooth anymore. Any idea?
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Paul22000 said:
The Pyramid/Sensation looks absolutely amazing in terms of hardware; can't deny that. But HTC going the locked-bootloader route worries me. And the fact that Cyanogen himself bought a G2x makes it even more awesome. I love my N1 but I think I'm definitely going for a G2x, Sensation, or Galaxy S II this year.
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Agree, one of those 3 should be a super upgrade this year for me as well...

Switched today ..this phone is a great update

G2X seems to be cool,but I just ran out of money
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I'm most likely going to wait for the Pyramid/Sensation. Love HTC and that phone seems to be the first all-round upgrade to the N1. Gorilla glass, great display + GPU power to drive it, plenty of RAM + storage (compared to my N1!), good looks; only thing it's missing is the trackball LED. Why has everyone dropped the idea of a repeating notification system? I don't care about the trackball, but the light is very useful in meetings.

garyo said:
... I don't care about the trackball, but the light is very useful in meetings.
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I even care about the trackball..moving cursor is so simple with it..I honestly miss the trackball!

I've switched to the OX2, seems worthy:

I'd consider the G2X if the 850 band was confirmed (? maybe it is/isn't, haven't checked in a day or two)
Currently, I'm happy with my phones, but I have a upgrade coming from AT&T in June and I suspect I will use it on a Galaxy S II (that is, if it's out on AT&T by then). This will be the first time in a while I've gotten to take advantage of an upgrade.
Edit: looks like no 850

I'm still holding out for the HTC Pyramid/Sensation ... I can live with the new HTC Sense for a few months before rooting the phone. Then when I root it it will be 1. like a new phone and 2. quite a bit faster. Kinda like a mini-upgrade to an upgraded phone!

You're assuming you'll be able to get round the locked bootloader though.

Rusty! said:
You're assuming you'll be able to get round the locked bootloader though.
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He's an over achiever that's why lol: )
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garyo said:
only thing it's missing is the trackball LED. Why has everyone dropped the idea of a repeating notification system? I don't care about the trackball, but the light is very useful in meetings.
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A) Because none of the phones coming out have multi-colored trackballs/trackpads. Actually, I don't think any other Android phone world-wide has a way to display multi-colored notifications. It looks like all manufacturers have dropped support for trackballs/trackpads in general (along with Google since they added the text selection features in Gingerbread). It's an amazing feature on the N1, but it's the first (and probably the last) phone to have it.
B) But it doesn't matter because XDA members have found alternate methods of notifications (ie using the backlight on the buttons, or a few pixels on the screen, etc)

The HTC Dream, G1, had a multi-colored notification light that wasn't implanted inside the trackball. And it was awesome. It can't be that hard to bring that tiny little multi-colored LED back, but apparently no one really cares. Cause it would still be in HTC phones today. Or I guess it could have been removed for aesthetics.
I honestly don't know why the G2X doesn't interest me. It is incredibly fast, it runs stock Android (which I don't like), and it is on my carrier. But this device simply doesn't manage to spark my interest. I guess compared to other device coming out this year it simply isn't that impressive. The Tegra 2 found in the device isn't that great in comparison to the Adreno 220 found in the HTC Sensation and Exynos found the Galaxy S2, it also has a sub-par screen and an unnecessarily large bezel.
The only reason for me to get this device would be the developer support, but then again, even if Cyanogen himself doesn't have a device doesn't mean it won't be graced with CyanogenMod. Ehhh, I'm pretty sure I'll be skipping this. However iff it is the only thing good on T-Mobile when my contract is up I might have to get it.

Eclair~ said:
it also has a sub-par screen
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Explain?!
It's an IPS LCD as used in the iPhone 4.

Eclair~ said:
The Tegra 2 found in the device isn't that great in comparison to the Adreno 220
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Actually, quite the opposite. The 220 is just barely, barely faster, and in some cases (3D) the 2X pulls ahead. Check out these benchmarks from Anandtech (and note: these are for a 1.5 GHz Adreno 220 whereas the Sensation will be 1.2 GHz):
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/3
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(The above 1.5 GHz test device is also not battery optimized at all, so performance may be even lower once HTC tweaks the real 1.2 GHz device to take that into account.)
Either way, it's at least a 200-300% improvement over the N1. I'd love to buy a G2x but will if and only if my N1 sells well on eBay (will list it this weekend, any takers? )

Rusty! said:
Explain?!
It's an IPS LCD as used in the iPhone 4.
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Having an IPS screen has barely anything to do with color reproduction, it more so benefits viewing angles. Which aren't even a problem with AMOLED, Super AMOLED, or Super LCD as is. The IPS LCD screen compared to those listed above is only decent. Washed out compared to the others with blacks that can't even compare to AMOLED.
SAMOLED - SLCD - IPS LCD
And this is before Super AMOLED Plus~
Paul22000 said:
Actually, quite the opposite. The 220 is just barely, barely faster, and in some cases (3D) the 2X pulls ahead. Check out these benchmarks from Anandtech (and note: these are for a 1.5 GHz Adreno 220 whereas the Sensation will be 1.2 GHz):
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/3
(The above 1.5 GHz test device is also not battery optimized at all, so performance may be even lower once HTC tweaks the real 1.2 GHz device to take that into account.)
Either way, it's at least a 200-300% improvement over the N1. I'd love to buy a G2x but will if and only if my N1 sells well on eBay (will list it this weekend, any takers? )
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Yes... and you posted the only result that put the Tegra above the Adreno 220. In all others, it clearly came out ahead. Though that 1.5GHz clock might really account for those differences. I doubt even underclocked to 1.2GHz would it make the Adreno 220 less powerful than the Tegra 2, but who am I to say?

1) Need an AT&T 3G compatible device
2) Strongly prefer a stock Android device that receives its updates from Google.
The Nexus One is the only device out that fulfills both of my requirements.
I wouldn't mind a Nexus S if the AT&T band version ever comes out :-\

SGS2 vs HTC Sensation

Guys,
After a bit of advice please.
I am due an upgrade soon, which will mean the end of a great time with my X10, but i am not sure which of the above to go for.
My wife has the HTC sensation, and i think it is awesome, but i have not really had a good 'play' with the SGS2.
Can anyone please give some constructive advice?
Many thanks!

I love HTC and have an HTC phone currently (the incredible s ), however I think the sgs2 is a much better phone.
the screen, the processor, etc... is just a step above everything else out right now.
you wouldn't be upset with either but I would definitely suggest the s 2

scoobysnacks comes first when it comes to phone wars
SGS 2 is the best around for now...

Samsung Sensation S.
jk
The only reason I wouldn't choose S II is the screen. It's oversaturated and gradients don't display well. A fine example of well-done AMOLED display can be found in the Nokia N8. The Sensation has a better resolution (540x960) compared to S II (480x800). I'd take the Sensation.
And please, do NOT take things too seriously. I know xda too well.

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HTC has much better dev support and better GPS. Sensation all the way.
The only big advantages of the Samsung are the screen and being able to use Odin to save your ass if you **** something up.
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doomed151 said:
Samsung Sensation S.
jk
The only reason I wouldn't choose S II is the screen. It's oversaturated and gradients don't display well. A fine example of well-done AMOLED display can be found in the Nokia N8. The Sensation has a better resolution (540x960) compared to S II (480x800). I'd take the Sensation.
And please, do NOT take things too seriously. I know xda too well.
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Yup. Sensation is great for its user interface, unless you hate HTC Sense 3.0, then that's too bad...
Sensation is running MSM8260 Chipset which should run 1.5GHz by default.
So when comparing in processor, Sensation should have a better performance than S II.
Its screen is better too. Like doomed151 said.
If you do not believe me that Sensation runs a better processor than S II, then please read my post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265103
S II has its pros too. When recording, it records on MP4 (Correct me if wrong, I have forgotten) while Sensation records video with 3GP. 3GP is not really good... however, their difference in quality is minimal and 3GP is smaller in size. Does that counts as pros or cons? Haha
Besides, S II has 1GB of RAM, you may need to consider about how heavy of applications you would be using.
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I do understand what you are saying, but I think the Sensation has enough free RAM. Having more won't make a huge difference...it might help things a little. If it needed more, it would have a lot less free on our current ROMs.
Any less would be a problem, but 768MB is enough in my opinion.
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Phateless said:
HTC has much better dev support and better GPS. Sensation all the way.
The only big advantages of the Samsung are the screen and being able to use Odin to save your ass if you **** something up.
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HTC has HTC Location, a very nice GPS Function, shipped with 30 days of premium navigation. You should know because your wife owns it.
Oh yeah, you also need to consider about the build quality. Samsung Galaxy S II case is made from plastic while HTC Sensation has a round cover of aluminium.
It gives some extra protection and endurance.
If you do not know what I am talking about. Go to my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265103 and scroll down to see the polished aluminium part.
Read more at http://gadgetmonkeys.net/2011/09/htc-sensation-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii/
It is from a person who owns both phones. He is not from Techradar or anything. Those reviews sometimes take gifts from the manufacturer and talks good about the manufacturer, making the reviews go unfair and incorrect. I AM NOT SAYING ANYONE, I AM JUST GIVING AN EXAMPLE! But Samsung really do lots of advertisements about Samsung Galaxy S II since two months ago.

Ariscelia said:
Yup. Sensation is great for its user interface, unless you hate HTC Sense 3.0, then that's too bad...
Sensation is running MSM8260 Chipset which should run 1.5GHz by default.
So when comparing in processor, Sensation should have a better performance than S II.
Its screen is better too. Like doomed151 said.
If you do not believe me that Sensation runs a better processor than S II, then please read my post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265103
S II has its pros too. When recording, it records on MP4 (Correct me if wrong, I have forgotten) while Sensation records video with 3GP. 3GP is not really good... however, their difference in quality is minimal and 3GP is smaller in size. Does that counts as pros or cons? Haha
Besides, S II has 1GB of RAM, you may need to consider about how heavy of applications you would be using.
HTC has HTC Location, a very nice GPS Function, shipped with 30 days of premium navigation. You should know because your wife owns it.
Oh yeah, you also need to consider about the build quality. Samsung Galaxy S II case is made from plastic while HTC Sensation has a round cover of aluminium.
It gives some extra protection and endurance.
If you do not know what I am talking about. Go to my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265103 and scroll down to see the polished aluminium part.
Read more at http://gadgetmonkeys.net/2011/09/htc-sensation-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii/
It is from a person who owns both phones. He is not from Techradar or anything. Those reviews sometimes take gifts from the manufacturer and talks good about the manufacturer, making the reviews go unfair and incorrect. I AM NOT SAYING ANYONE, I AM JUST GIVING AN EXAMPLE! But Samsung really do lots of advertisements about Samsung Galaxy S II since two months ago.
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clockspeed alone does not make a processor better.. ..
sgs2 chip has a much better gpu.
why would you need HTC location? google maps is free.
like I said I prefer HTC phones , but the sgs2 is just a touch better imo

Thanks guys!
These are useful posts, shame it doesn't make the choice easier...

Ariscelia said:
Yup. Sensation is great for its user interface, unless you hate HTC Sense 3.0, then that's too bad...
Sensation is running MSM8260 Chipset which should run 1.5GHz by default.
So when comparing in processor, Sensation should have a better performance than S II.
Its screen is better too. Like doomed151 said.
If you do not believe me that Sensation runs a better processor than S II, then please read my post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265103
S II has its pros too. When recording, it records on MP4 (Correct me if wrong, I have forgotten) while Sensation records video with 3GP. 3GP is not really good... however, their difference in quality is minimal and 3GP is smaller in size. Does that counts as pros or cons? Haha
Besides, S II has 1GB of RAM, you may need to consider about how heavy of applications you would be using.
HTC has HTC Location, a very nice GPS Function, shipped with 30 days of premium navigation. You should know because your wife owns it.
Oh yeah, you also need to consider about the build quality. Samsung Galaxy S II case is made from plastic while HTC Sensation has a round cover of aluminium.
It gives some extra protection and endurance.
If you do not know what I am talking about. Go to my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265103 and scroll down to see the polished aluminium part.
Read more at http://gadgetmonkeys.net/2011/09/htc-sensation-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii/
It is from a person who owns both phones. He is not from Techradar or anything. Those reviews sometimes take gifts from the manufacturer and talks good about the manufacturer, making the reviews go unfair and incorrect. I AM NOT SAYING ANYONE, I AM JUST GIVING AN EXAMPLE! But Samsung really do lots of advertisements about Samsung Galaxy S II since two months ago.
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Never played with HTC location. I'm an aosp guy and I flash my phones to cm immediately every time.
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DaveHTC200 said:
Guys,
After a bit of advice please.
I am due an upgrade soon, which will mean the end of a great time with my X10, but i am not sure which of the above to go for.
My wife has the HTC sensation, and i think it is awesome, but i have not really had a good 'play' with the SGS2.
Can anyone please give some constructive advice?
Many thanks!
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I too was faced with the same dilemma as you in deciding what phone to get as I was honestly very frustrated with my X10 & just couldnt decide which one to go for S2 or Sensation.
So I am going to give you how I weighted my decision & a mini-review abt my choice (frm someone coming from X10)
S2 Main Advantages:
- Simply put the most powerful & fastest smartphone in market today ( If you ever had any doubts about that fact just look up the Anandtech review of the S2 on google)
- Slim & Lightweight
- Super Amoled+ Display
- Very good still/video camera
- On board 16GB flash memory ( This is always going to be faster than any memory card, a very imp factor for me )
- 1GB Ram
S2 Main Disadvantages:
- Plasticky body
- Touchwiz ( not to everyone taste .. can be fixed with ADW/Launcherpro)
- Surprisingly Super Amoled+ Display - Its love or hate .. the super vivid colors may not be to everyone's taste ( can be toned down using settings however)
- 480 x 800 pixels resolution
Sensation Main Advantages
- Sexy metallic unibody construction
- Sense 3.0 ( easily the most polished android skins around)
- Higer res qHD IPS LCD display ( currently highest res display in the market)
Sensation Main Disadvantages
- Sub par still camera
- 768 MB RAM ( Sense 3.0 eats a lions share of this available ram .. very less ram to other apps available)
- Less internal storage, so u need a SD card ( going to be always slower than on board memory )
- Questionable dual core implementation .. only single core dedicated to applications, while other core is just dedicated to background apps
Considering above factors ( please note these are my opinions alone, others can differ ) i chose to buy :
Samsung Galaxy S2
Mini Review
- I absolutely love the S2 & no matter how hard i try i just cant get it to stutter or lag
- The display is absolutely beautiful. A word of caution .. while the blacks are absolutely impenetrable on the SAmoded+ screen .. the whites are not so 'white' at lower brightness as compared to LCD's .. only when you increase the brightness you get 'full white' colors ..but then it starts hurting ur eyes ... so that takes a getting a bit used to ( esp since i'm comming from the X10 which has a LCD display). But honestly its not a deal breaker ..once you get used to it its no bigge.
Hope it helps you.
And yes Bye bye X10 ! Hello S2 for me !

Why do people instantly choose either the HTC sensation it the gs2? What about the Motorola atrix 4g, photon 4g and HTC evo 3d etc??
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I've been a x10 user and I got SGS-II IMO. It was one of the best choices Ive made.
Don't get these HTC fanboys, but there is a reason why it's called "the fastest and slimmest phone" til now
SGS-2 all the way.Although I love my x10 (RIP )

LegibleEel said:
Why do people instantly choose either the HTC sensation it the gs2? What about the Motorola atrix 4g, photon 4g and HTC evo 3d etc??
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those aren't really worthy contenders imo..
he's going for the best

scoobysnacks said:
those aren't really worthy contenders imo..
he's going for the best
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Benchmarks and camera aside I don't think EVO 3D and Sensation are two different devices!
So I don't get the worthy contenders point!

Just my opinion but id take the sgs2 all day everyday.

scoobysnacks said:
those aren't really worthy contenders imo..
he's going for the best
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I think they are, all have dual-core processors and 1gb of ram... only thing the gs2 has that they don't is a good looking screen.

This is all really pointless when you think about it. All these mentioned phones are great....all have pros and cons. Its all basically gonna come down to user preference...we could sit and argue all day which is the best.

LegibleEel said:
I think they are, all have dual-core processors and 1gb of ram... only thing the gs2 has that they don't is a good looking screen.
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sensation has only 768 MB RAM!
SGS2 is totally a different story! The chipset and the GPU is miles ahead of the competition!
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
This is all really pointless when you think about it. All these mentioned phones are great....all have pros and cons. Its all basically gonna come down to user preference...we could sit and argue all day which is the best.
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this was my favorite! back in the college days

Mr Patchy Patch said:
This is all really pointless when you think about it. All these mentioned phones are great....all have pros and cons. Its all basically gonna come down to user preference...we could sit and argue all day which is the best.
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Yes very true..but I don't understand why everyone just goes for the gs2 and htc sensation when there's many other phones that have equal specs...

Opinions on HTC Desire Z/G2

I'm looking to buy a Desire Z as a gift, and wanted to get some second opinions on the phone. Is the keyboard decent? What's the speed like? How sturdy is the keyboard hinge?
Also, is it fairly easy to root?
I've got an original Desire myself so if it's a roughly similar experience to that but with a keyboard then that'll be good.
Cheers

It's a great phone, 2nd Gen Snapdragon, Adreno 205 GPU...but it is also fairly late in it's life. The keyboard is great, and while people have differing opinions on the hinge, I haven't had any problems.
Just know that it doesn't hold a candle to the 1GB Ram/Dual Core beasts being released today.
Sent from my T-mobile G2 using Tapatalk

The hinge problem has been previously blown up, it is fine.
I couldn't imagine living and typing longer than an sms without a keyboard, I still love it and use it for longer input. If I was buying a phone now I probably could sacrifice the keyboard for a front camera or more CPU power or so. I could even buy a Desire S or a Sensation (just to be in this pricerange). Phones change quickly, quadband is here, I still love this phone.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

in my opinion its still a great phone... sure there are better ones out now rooting isn´t that easy, but not very hard too (if you know how to use adb, you are fine) If you are on 2.3+ it could happen that you need to create a goldcard while rooting...
...what rather concerns me right now is the fact that a lot of people seem to have a problem with a fried emmc chip.
here is a link to the wiki-guide for rooting (so you see how its done):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision

Thanks. Dual core and that isn't a concern, the intended owner is not really fussed about those kind of things, having a keyboard is more important, and I trust HTC as a brand.
Have ordered one now.

h0kum said:
Thanks. Dual core and that isn't a concern, the intended owner is not really fussed about those kind of things, having a keyboard is more important, and I trust HTC as a brand.
Have ordered one now.
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You won't regret it! Great phone with great devs taking care of it
Sent from my Bulletproof G2

Like everyone said is great options is not a bad phone every 3d games or apps i like is here. U can use hulu plus and netflix. Adobe flash player 11.
Gameloft hd games
Glu hd games
And other what not to like about this phone? lol
does hd recording 720 p.
It have best keyboard after g1.

in my opinion its still a great phone... sure there are better ones out now
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I sure wish you could NAME a better phone that is out now!
Remember, it must have the reliability, style, and expensive feel of the G2, must have a great hardware (real) keyboard and beautiful gorilla glass screen like G2, and must be root/developer friendly, have removable battery, and it must provide wifi calling in my weak signal area and free tethering and portable wifi hotspot, and do all of this for US$60/month no-contract service with unlimited 4G everything and no overage charges possible like my G2!
what better one ya got that does all of that?
that's right - NOTHING!

WTF? said:
I sure wish you could NAME a better phone that is out now!
Remember, it must have the reliability, style, and expensive feel of the G2, must have a great hardware (real) keyboard and beautiful gorilla glass screen like G2, and must be root/developer friendly, have removable battery, and it must provide wifi calling in my weak signal area and free tethering and portable wifi hotspot, and do all of this for US$60/month no-contract service with unlimited 4G everything and no overage charges possible like my G2!
what better one ya got that does all of that?
that's right - NOTHING!
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An iPhone
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An iPhone
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Ahah u can't be serious because the iphail contains none of the above..
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I concur, there is nothing else out there I could see me replacing it with at the moment. I need a hardware keyboard.. More ram and a faster CPU would be handy though... Refreshed DZ required

Great phone, and i will use this as long as it works. I'v had this about little over 11months now, no problems. Only thing is, screen has one frozen pixel in it, tough it's on the side, close to a corner so i barely even notice it, if i look for it, i can see it.
There is Motorola Droid 4 coming, sure looks nice whit that 5-row qwerty. If i would have waited a year longer to upgrade to smartphone world, id get it when it comes.
Now i'm planing on getting a tablet, to get the horsepower going on android. possibly transformer prime, or smth, wonder what CES brings to the table.
I love this phone! Sorry i got drifted to little off topic here.

I won't get another phone until there is a worthy successor. I would like to stick with HTC and I need a qwerty KB (well strongly prefer to have one) so here is hoping for a G3 sometime soon.
Until then though I still get great performance so no immediate rush.

There was also a Samsung qwerty slider I was reading about a while back, can't seem to find the article anymore.

Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens

fredcorp6 said:
Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
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yea this:
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spec: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i927_captivate_glide-4071.php
look awesome tho. its like galaxy s2+keyboard

hopefully Q1 2012..
Dell Hancock.
Google it.

ewww iphone unless u want to be locked. Even with android without rooting u still will not be lock as you are with iphone.
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I agree with flinny if they can refresh desire z 2 aka htc t-mobile g3 with stock in usa. I would love to have front face camera,1gb of ram i hate using my mirror to video chat. Get amoled screen back like nexus one. Add the hardware 5 key rows they had on g1 to g3 .
Hopefully stop selling to many damn Htc phone their selling about 10-15 device every year i wish they can stay with 3-5. Limited their work because then they make users like me hack my phone to get update, that they should be doing themselves. Instead of making excuses on why they cant update 1 device to the other.

fredcorp6 said:
Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
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Looked very interesting to me at first, but reviews have been far from stellar:
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Looks like cheap exterior build quality, and crappy flat keyboard. Nice screen, but hardware specs are merely ok compared to other high end phones currently being released. A Galaxy IIS spec phone with decent keyboard would be killer. But this ain't that.
Can't any manufacturers come out with a high-spec phone, with a decent keyboard?

Upgrade in 4 months

I'm getting the HTC one x for my upgrade .. the specs for it is amazing . Beast audio,tegra 3 , quad core CPU, Wat more can u ask for ?
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My main qualms are it's a little big (this can be gotten used to), not removable sd card or battery, and not on VZW.

I could ask for plenty of things:
a battery that will last through a day
it can run Crysis
dual-boot Windows 8
1080p display
integrated subwoofer for actual bass from phone speaker
but mostly I ask for a removable SDcard, or at least a slot for another like on the Inc. Seriously, HTC? My 40GB right now isn't sufficient, I'd really love 32GB internal + SD slot. 64GB internal + SD slot would be even better though

PonsAsinorem said:
My main qualms are it's a little big (this can be gotten used to), not removable sd card or battery, and not on VZW.
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I was switching to sprint from my bros account
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PonsAsinorem said:
My main qualms are it's a little big (this can be gotten used to), not removable sd card or battery, and not on VZW.
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But I might just stay with vzw bcuz I don't wanna go through so much hassel . Might just go with rezound but let's see wat comes up
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
But I might just stay with vzw bcuz I don't wanna go through so much hassel . Might just go with rezound but let's see wat comes up
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You importing that One X? the One series isn't Tegra 3 in America. It's a dual core Snapdragon 4 chip which is equally as nice. Neither AT&T or Verizon will carry high end non-lte phones.

SlimSnoopOS said:
You importing that One X? the One series isn't Tegra 3 in America. It's a dual core Snapdragon 4 chip which is equally as nice. Neither AT&T or Verizon will carry high end non-lte phones.
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Actually according to benchmarks the S4 chip runs circles around the Tegra 3 in all except gaming graphics where the two are mostly equal with T3 having the slight edge.
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Not really too impressed with any thing on vzw right now so i am holding out on upgrading. I do like the one series but not willing to switch carriers.

Just waiting for something new to show on vzw. Nothing exciting out there now. Starting to get impatient. Thinking SIII is it ever hits market!!!!
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I agree the Rezound is ok and im debating on weather to wait or get Rezound
If I wait long enough maybe droid incredible 3 would come !
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
I agree the Rezound is ok and im debating on weather to wait or get Rezound
If I wait long enough maybe droid incredible 3 would come !
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You should get the Rezound! Don't you miss dmeadows, wildstang, newtoroot, and joelz?! Lol. Plus some different devs I've never had experience with before this, like |||bored|||, scrosler, who are extemely good devs with good reputations. Even if the one x was on Verizon, I wouldn't consider it over the Rezound with our awesome community. Newt already got us Sense 4, even
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You should get the Rezound! Don't you miss dmeadows, wildstang, newtoroot, and joelz?! Lol. Plus some different devs I've never had experience with before this, like |||bored|||, scrosler, who are extemely good devs with good reputations. Even if the one x was on Verizon, I wouldn't consider it over the Rezound with our awesome community. Newt already got us Sense 4, even
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I do miss those devs especially Joel he was great developer for my droid incredible
I'll be getting the resound then
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
I do miss those devs especially Joel he was great developer for my droid incredible
I'll be getting the resound then
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Haha, cool. I think Joel will have a Sense 4 rom up in about 2 weeks, because Newtoroot fixed data for it, spent about 2 months writing code for it to work on this phone, and so he's asking devs to wait at least two weeks before using his as a base. Pretty impressive work from him though really. And dmeadows has been trying to get data working on cm9/aosp for us, lots of progress, but still not yet complete, shouldn't be too long though, I'm sure
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I'm holding out for the S3 or for the Note to come to Verizon.

thekendog said:
I'm holding out for the S3 or for the Note to come to Verizon.
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That would be a good idea too. But I'm nit to much of a fan for Samsung I herd lots of rumors about there phones freezing and locking up
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As much as I'd like a One X, or the new Evo (One X plus microSD minus design), I'm sticking with Verizon until they take away my unlimited data.
Because of this, I'm waiting for the Incredible 4G.
The specs should be similar to the One S, and it's supposed to come out April 26th, which would be perfect for all of us Incredible owners who got it at launch with a new 2year contract. I'll be eligible for my 2 year upgrade right when this new one comes out.
As long as the specs hold up, I'll take it.

demarcmj said:
As much as I'd like a One X, or the new Evo (One X plus microSD minus design), I'm sticking with Verizon until they take away my unlimited data.
Because of this, I'm waiting for the Incredible 4G.
The specs should be similar to the One S, and it's supposed to come out April 26th, which would be perfect for all of us Incredible owners who got it at launch with a new 2year contract. I'll be eligible for my 2 year upgrade right when this new one comes out.
As long as the specs hold up, I'll take it.
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I'm soooo getting that if it comes out
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I'm soooo getting that if it comes out
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If? It's definitely coming out. It's just the exact date and specs that are still rumors at this point.
Right now April 26th is the rumored release date, and that looks pretty credible (and right in line with the original Incredible and Incredible 2 releases)
In terms of specs...
It's supposed to have the dual-core snapdragon S4 (drool), clocked at 1.2 (it's not 1.5 but I'll take it. This processor is a beast)
1GB RAM
Sense 4 is a given
It's supposed to have an 8MP camera in the back (VGA FFC) and if it's anything like it's One X and S brothers, quality should be excellent. Pictures only show a single LED flash, which is a bummer, but not that big of a deal.
4.3" display is the best guess right now, although some people are thinking they may stick with 4" like the Inc 2. Either way, it's not expected to be 720p (qHD is the latest rumor). Personally, I'm hoping for 4.3" but that's probably not a deal breaker either. I've done ok with my OG Inc for 2 years and even 4" would be an improvement.
Display technology is probably going to be the biggest bummer. It's not going to have that GORGEOUS Super LCD 2 display that the One X and Evo 4G LTE have. It will probably be your standard AMOLED (maybe super). I don't mind that much though. I'm not one of those people who feel so pationately about display quality that they can write pages and pages on contrast and color accuracy and blah blah blah...
Pictures show all 4 of the old capacitive buttons, which is a little strange. Perhaps it's an earlier prototype and they've changed it? Personally, I'd be fine. I know menu is being phased out, but a lot of apps still use it so I wouldn't mind having a menu button for 2 more years. For multitasking, I've always found long-press on home to be more than sufficient... I felt that the dedicated button was extraneous. And as for search... removing that button was a big mistake in my opinion. Yes, there's the search bar at the top of the desktops (actually, that's not even the case in Sense 4), but without the search button you don't have access to voice actions from anywhere in the OS, which SUCKSSS.
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EDIT: I also wouldn't be surprised if there's two models, a black and a white. There will clearly be a white version, based on the pic, but I can't think of a lot of phones that offer just white, without also releasing black (usually before white). That's just my own thinking though.
ANOTHER EDIT: Some things that we don't have any rumors on, and some things that a lot of people are probably interested in are:
Removable Battery?
microSD slot?
NFC?
Personally, I dont really care much about NFC. Sure, it'd be great, but there's not a lot of stuff to take advantage of it yet. As for microSD, it's certainly preferred, but not a deal-breaker for me. I stream a lot of my content since I have unlimited data, but I do download a lot of podcasts, many of which are video, so the space would be good. Even though it's not that big of an issue for me, I can see how some people may have a serious issue with lack of a microSD slot. The removable battery is my biggest priority of those three things I listed. Although I'll probably get the phone either way, I will be SOOOO disappointed if it's not a removable battery. But then again, battery life should be pretty great given the S4, so maybe it won't bother me as much.

demarcmj said:
If? It's definitely coming out. It's just the exact date and specs that are still rumors at this point.
Right now April 26th is the rumored release date, and that looks pretty credible (and right in line with the original Incredible and Incredible 2 releases)
In terms of specs...
It's supposed to have the dual-core snapdragon S4 (drool), clocked at 1.2 (it's not 1.5 but I'll take it. This processor is a beast)
1GB RAM
Sense 4 is a given
It's supposed to have an 8MP camera in the back (VGA FFC) and if it's anything like it's One X and S brothers, quality should be excellent. Pictures only show a single LED flash, which is a bummer, but not that big of a deal.
4.3" display is the best guess right now, although some people are thinking they may stick with 4" like the Inc 2. Either way, it's not expected to be 720p (qHD is the latest rumor). Personally, I'm hoping for 4.3" but that's probably not a deal breaker either. I've done ok with my OG Inc for 2 years and even 4" would be an improvement.
Display technology is probably going to be the biggest bummer. It's not going to have that GORGEOUS Super LCD 2 display that the One X and Evo 4G LTE have. It will probably be your standard AMOLED (maybe super). I don't mind that much though. I'm not one of those people who feel so pationately about display quality that they can write pages and pages on contrast and color accuracy and blah blah blah...
Pictures show all 4 of the old capacitive buttons, which is a little strange. Perhaps it's an earlier prototype and they've changed it? Personally, I'd be fine. I know menu is being phased out, but a lot of apps still use it so I wouldn't mind having a menu button for 2 more years. For multitasking, I've always found long-press on home to be more than sufficient... I felt that the dedicated button was extraneous. And as for search... removing that button was a big mistake in my opinion. Yes, there's the search bar at the top of the desktops (actually, that's not even the case in Sense 4), but without the search button you don't have access to voice actions from anywhere in the OS, which SUCKSSS.
EDIT: I also wouldn't be surprised if there's two models, a black and a white. There will clearly be a white version, based on the pic, but I can't think of a lot of phones that offer just white, without also releasing black (usually before white). That's just my own thinking though.
ANOTHER EDIT: Some things that we don't have any rumors on, and some things that a lot of people are probably interested in are:
Removable Battery?
microSD slot?
NFC?
Personally, I dont really care much about NFC. Sure, it'd be great, but there's not a lot of stuff to take advantage of it yet. As for microSD, it's certainly preferred, but not a deal-breaker for me. I stream a lot of my content since I have unlimited data, but I do download a lot of podcasts, many of which are video, so the space would be good. Even though it's not that big of an issue for me, I can see how some people may have a serious issue with lack of a microSD slot. The removable battery is my biggest priority of those three things I listed. Although I'll probably get the phone either way, I will be SOOOO disappointed if it's not a removable battery. But then again, battery life should be pretty great given the S4, so maybe it won't bother me as much.
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That's it I'm gettin it
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
That's it I'm gettin it
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haha. I figured everyone in here would already know about the Incredible 4G. I've been following it very closely since the pics were released. I even set up a google alert on it a couple weeks ago so I wouldn't miss anything
I think it's going to be really popular because
(a) Like the OG Incredible, when it gets released it will be the best phone (by far) available on Verizon at that time (the same can't be said for the Incredible 2)
and
(b) It's being released pretty much exactly 2 years after the OG Incredible, so people like me who are up for their 2 year upgrade will flock to it.
(I'm also hoping that, especially because of "b" above, that there will be a good dev community behind it)

As Much as I love the G2.. qwerty newcomer phone..

Don't get me wrong, I love my G2. But that being said I also love android which means tons of widgets and apps which tend to slow the slightly slower (ie experienced ) processor/ram on the G2. And I have a pretty quick ICS rom..
But that being said I am constantly on the prowl keeping an eye for the much rumored G3. Im sure others are like me. Unfortunately HTC sounds a bit anti-qwerty (and more and more anti-developers) lately (karma=loss of market share?) so it might be forthcoming.. ever.. So we must to other qwerty's.. I love HTC build quality but if a nice samsung or motorola qwerty comes along I might be out..
Sorry to beat around the bush, but I found a newcomer which seems pretty rocking. Check it out!
(Granted the name is not as slick or sexy as G3.. and its on sprints network ewww haha)
Engadget:
"Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE review: the best full QWERTY phone on Sprint's network"
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Mmmm look at that 5 row qwerty!!
And engadget loved it : "This is one of the finest physical keyboards we've used on an Android device in quite some time."
Granted I dont use sprint/sprints bands but at least phone makers are making qwertys with at least reasonable specs and ICS. Perhaps they are getting smart and trying to capture the rest of RIMM's market share..

unuseable for anyone who isn't on sprint. embedded sim card and i heard, non replaceable battery
such nice spec but such locked down features......
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I was looking at that my self and first of all motorolla from what i understand is even more anti dev than htc. Also the non removable battery kills it too as said before. I still have my fingers cross for the Galaxy Relay to have an S4

i like the phone.. just the fact that it's locked up tight like an adamantium chastity belt that's been welded shut rather than have a lock around it.

Yea the device is pretty nice but they totally dropped the ball on the embedded sim issue. While Motorola traditionally locks down their bootloader, this device is shipping with the ability to be unlocked.
If it had a removable sim & battery it would be totally killer, but it doesn't so it's a no starter.
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Sprint and Verizon are not the carrier choice for people (like me) who always need to travel outside of US.

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Yea the device is pretty nice but they totally dropped the ball on the embedded sim issue. While Motorola traditionally locks down their bootloader, this device is shipping with the ability to be unlocked.
If it had a removable sim & battery it would be totally killer, but it doesn't so it's a no starter.
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agree, too bad. Id probably drop everything for it if it were gsm with a removable sim card and battery.. too bad too sad

Somebody knows about good QWERTY Android phone (with native ICS)? Replacement for Desire Z / G2? Can´t google anything...

as of now? there's only the relay which has embedded sim and nonremoveable battery.. and another one.. i can't remember off hte top of my head but it's headed to tmobile i believe.. that means you'll be stuck with a quirky band that wont work anywhere else inthe world.

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as of now? there's only the relay which has embedded sim and nonremoveable battery.. and another one.. i can't remember off hte top of my head but it's headed to tmobile i believe.. that means you'll be stuck with a quirky band that wont work anywhere else inthe world.
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Relay hasnt been released yet and so far seems that it has removable bat and obvs removable sim because its tmo. Maybe you are mixing up names.

Joe333x said:
Relay hasnt been released yet and so far seems that it has removable bat and obvs removable sim because its tmo. Maybe you are mixing up names.
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i might be mixing up. i know the cdma one, has non removable battery & sim.
although the tmo one still probalby just has tmo's bands only so it would only work halfway with other carrier's (say.. at&t or any other carrier around the world )
EDIT: after doing my reading again, what i was referring to was the photon. not the relay. Apologies >.<

This is proof that other manufacturers are hoping to cash in on HTC abandoning the original Android consumer base (those of us who prefer physical keyboards).
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This is proof that other manufacturers are hoping to cash in on HTC abandoning the original Android consumer base (those of us who prefer physical keyboards).
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I like how you said "original android consumer base" its so true, its seems mfgs just want to be like apple and that was the reason i went with the G1, i HATE on screen typing, i LOVE keyboards but no mfg wants to release one that is equal to the specs of the latest non qwerty. If this relay comes out and only has an S3 then it just shows no one cares about us qwerty lovers.

I need someone to buy this, tear it apart, and take photos, so i can see if it´s possible to solder an other sim in there.
This really needs to come to europe.

I'm so with you on the "HATE on screen typing and LOVE keyboards". Good thing I baby my G2 cuz it looks like I may have to keep for as long as possible.

Is that the Droid 4?
I recently acquired a Motorola Droid 3, which looks VERY similar to the phone in your pictures, so I am thinking it is the Droid 4, which was recently released on Verizon. Seems to be something about cell phone companies and phone names, they want to give it a different name on every carrier...
Another keyboard phone of interest to some is the Samsung Galaxy Q. It is a low end phone, but has a very nice keyboard, better than any other Samsung phone with a keyboard I have seen. I bought one for my daughter, and it works quite well, especially considering the price.

I'm actually gunna keep the desire z, I think it'll last another year, and with my nexus 7, I won't demand as much from it! Who's with me
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xT4Z1N4TRx said:
I'm actually gunna keep the desire z, I think it'll last another year, and with my nexus 7, I won't demand as much from it! Who's with me
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Same here :good:

xT4Z1N4TRx said:
I'm actually gunna keep the desire z, I think it'll last another year, and with my nexus 7, I won't demand as much from it! Who's with me
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I will keep both for several years if the jb roms gets better.
And then hardwaremod the crap out of it.
On that note, could you help me find out highest possible mW output on the powerline to the led? Don't care if it fries the original led, i want to put in a high power laser led in the phone
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Some new info about Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G - will be available beginning September 19th for $150 with a two-year agreement.