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After having the S3 on tmobile and having the official 4.1 update and using Google now all the time. I never had any battery issues. Using it on the N4 the drain is crazy. I I have to freeze it to stop the drain.
Is there a way to use Google now with out the drain? I do love me some Google now.
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Err been using it for a month now and have -zero- issues with battery drain. and when i mean im fully using the phone, i do mean fully... it's wide opened, full net access, nothing blocked (except adware type junk).
I have everything from google installed, all their apps that sync constantly, plus tons of work related programs like office, remote print bots etc.. to top it all off my google drive + google music are being used all the time too.
No battery drain at all here. I'm sure it uses battery, but nowhere near a level of drain that is gastly or noticable. I'de more point my finger at a rogue app that you installed instead.
you try it from a clean install? or maybe uninstall all "extra" to try and narrow it down...
t3xboar said:
Err been using it for a month now and have -zero- issues with battery drain. and when i mean im fully using the phone, i do mean fully... it's wide opened, full net access, nothing blocked (except adware type junk).
I have everything from google installed, all their apps that sync constantly, plus tons of work related programs like office, remote print bots etc.. to top it all off my google drive + google music are being used all the time too.
No battery drain at all here. I'm sure it uses battery, but nowhere near a level of drain that is gastly or noticable. I'de more point my finger at a rogue app that you installed instead.
you try it from a clean install? or maybe uninstall all "extra" to try and narrow it down...
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I'm the same, I have everything syncing, GPS on etc
my battery lasts 8 hours even with nothing extra installed except stock apps
I'm with you OP. Battery is crap on this phone compared to S2, S3 and iPhone. Web browsing is killer 4hours compared to 8 on iphone.
Google Now and location drains battery. Best way to tell is overnight - with those features on the battery falls all through the night. With then all off - its level.
you guys with drain are forgetting to mention what other apps you have installed and are running. Are you stock ? like stock stock ?
and another side note: your 3G cell reception... spotty??? if your radio is constantly trying to connect you will experience mega harsh drain - regardless of phone or programs.
so..ermm.. need more info you guys
3G (HSPA+) is full where ever I go, rest of time I'm on WiFi.
As I stated, I've tried with no other apps installed. Just stock apps with all Google stuff enabled
I see what you guys mean about rogue apps. But that is not the case. As a previous user said you can tell by leaving Google now on over night and turning it off(I've tested that).
I'm having great battery life with it off or on its just the batter seems to drain more then it should with Google now enabled compared to other phones...
Oh well, just have to live with it.
Thanks everyone
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I have google now since the day it came out and i don't have any batterie drain at all... Google now is supposed to know your home, so it won't use the gps as often as when your moving...
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big samm said:
I have google now since the day it came out and i don't have any batterie drain at all... Google now is supposed to know your home, so it won't use the gps as often as when your moving...
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Silly question... did you guys program all your options into the phone so it's not constantly searching?
@MMACE - 8hours.. hmm..seems off a bit I wake up at 6:30 phone is unplugged then...usually only throw it on the charger when i get home later that evening.
I use the phone with all the trimmings during the day. sometimes video, sometimes music, sometimes browsing, wifi on/off etc..
Look with cyanogen modded kernel on a nexus one, i was getting 4-5 days of heavy usage and easily 2 weeks standby. I understand what it means to have excellent battery life. But we are talking a bigger screen, more features, and faster cpu speeds here...
you can't expect miracles of a week's usage here.. needs to be reasonable..
Google Now gave me some significant battery drain for the first day, but after that it simmered down and now I get great battery life. I always have everything turned on except for WiFi.
hmm that's weird. i'm not getting any battery drain from google now as well. i don't constantly have it open or use it all the time, but it's running in the background. for me, i actually use battery defender. i've heard different things about it and that it doesn't work. but it seems to work for me. i'll use my phone not too heavily during the work day or even the weekend, and usually by the time i go to sleep at night, it's down to maybe 40%...somewhere about 20% if i talk to my fiance a lot.
As mentioned ad nauseum, you should check the location (aka GPS) settings. GPS radio "only" works when apps call it (maps). The wifi portion runs all the time. If you turn on GPS, but disable (or simple do not agree) to use the wifi radio for location, you should see a large improvement.
After the Google I/O announcements yesterday, I noticed I was draining battery a lot quicker than usual. I checked battery stats and Google Services was responsible for almost 70% of my battery usage - and this is continuing into today. See the screenshots below for what I mean:
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Google Services battery usage
I haven't used Maps or anything GPS related this morning - I'm not sure what the GPS usage is for. Is anyone else seeing something similar this morning?
Yes! Idk what it is
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I had this happened to my phone a couple of days ago. It would not go away until I cleared data for all google apps including the framework. Did a reboot and let it sit there overnight.. When I woke up it was gone. Hope this helps
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After the Google I/O announcements yesterday, I noticed I was draining battery a lot quicker than usual. I checked battery stats and Google Services was responsible for almost 70% of my battery usage - and this is continuing into today. See the screenshots below for what I mean:
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Google Services battery usage
I haven't used Maps or anything GPS related this morning - I'm not sure what the GPS usage is for. Is anyone else seeing something similar this morning?
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I unchecked use GPS in location settings and it brought the battery usage down. There was an update to it yesterday and it seems to have started the battery issue again. I had issues with Google Services when I first got the phone.
My maps started going crazy yesterday. It was going higher than screen time in %. This also started yesterday.
Are you missing a Google update btw? My icon for Google Services appears as the google play puzzle piece.
Right now my Maps is at 26% and Google services is at 2%.though 4 hours in I am only down to 89%.
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My maps started going crazy yesterday. It was going higher than screen time in %. This also started yesterday.
Are you missing a Google update btw? My icon for Google Services appears as the google play puzzle piece.
Right now my Maps is at 26% and Google services is at 2%.though 4 hours in I am only down to 89%.
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Mines was a puzzle piece also until I launched the play store and google services was updated. Now it's like the one OP showed.
I had the issue of maps being higher than screen on battery usage yesterday even though I hadnt opened maps in days. What I did was force stop maps and restart my phone. All seems well now. I also updated google search/now last night and it didnt affect anything.
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Google music constantly runs in the background now. I forced closed, few seconds later it started running again. I never opened google music since I got the phone. I prefer stock music player. So what I did was disable that app since I can't uninstall it.
Same as OP here.
Going into Application manager and clearing the cache for the Google programs (as mentioned earlier) seems to work well...temporarily at least.
Not getting the google services drain, but the new map update added some bull**** wakelock called nlpcollector.. no clue what its doing but its keeping the phone awake about 8 mins out of every hour. Uninstalled the update and it stopped... wtf google?
Installed and ran "Better battery stats" and took a look at the "wakelock" and it Network Location Locator that eating up my battery. I also have a HTC one and the battery lasts all day but the S4 barely makes it till noon.
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Do any of you have "Report from this device" enabled in Maps? It will use data constantly.
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Thnxs. Turned that setting off but it still drained.....Figured it out. It was a setting in location that says 'wifi and mobile location' that was causing a drain. Turned it off and only lost 3% over night instead of the 20% I usually lost before. The only thing is that now Google Now wont work unless the setting is turned on. But I can live with it for now till an update comes out.
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There is a great thread HERE with a solution to this issue. I really think you all should read it and try it out. No more Google Service battery drain from now on. :good:
Recently been getting battery drain while on Idle. This drain I tend to notice at night. My phone can idle duriing the day but does not drain battery.
I recently disabled Android system IQ agent .. and it seems to have helped at night after rebooting and stopping that service.
I also noticed when you go to task manager and go to settings there is an option to stop services. I checked Facebook (51 services wth). Google Play Books , Magazines, and Movies\TV. I also checked Google play services (65 services).
Believe it or not my phone seems to be running fine and my battery life is a lot better.
Now I set my brightness at 47% (not auto), Google Now is enabled with Wifi and mobile location. Google backup is enabled (most are unchecked including app data) Email is manual sync.
Just thought I"d pass this along. YMMV.
Thanks for your tips. I noticed random battery drain these few days, no idea what it is, high battery drain when idle, and it happens randomly. Will try and report back. Thanks
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Thanks for your tips. I noticed random battery drain these few days, no idea what it is, high battery drain when idle, and it happens randomly. Will try and report back. Thanks
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What's the exact name of the apk / the service? Afaik I do not have any matching process so far...
I'm running stock/rooted kitkat and for the last few days I have had dramatic battery drain. I go from fully changed to 10% in less than 4 hours. Has anyone else noticed this lately?
I had this as well. I had to disable location services to get my phone to actually go to sleep.
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disabling location services and trying that. thanks
I've had awful battery since i upgraded to 5.0 and Google services are killing the battery. I'll try location services. Will update.
It's definitely not a problem with Location Services. My location is completely turned off 99% (since always) of the time and I also have that topping my battery consumption. Even though, my phone has been deep sleeping without major problems. There's an unknown wakelock that is slowly draining the battery, but anyway I've been getting 4h of SOT everyday without making any sacrifices. If somebody finds out what's the root cause, keep me posted, please.
I've been occasionally getting this for a few weeks too.
If I turn off location, the problem continues for a day or so but then goes away.
This morning I took the phone off charger first thing. I restarted and didn't open screen for two hours. When I checked battery usage it was down 80% and the big consumer was Media and SDcard. Anyone see this before?
It just occurred to me that I may have a corrupt file on internal storage. I'm going to back everything up and start deleting.
Well..I did a factory reset and I still have a major battery drain. It has to be some rogue app but I haven't installed "new" apps lately. Plenty of updates though.
My Essential PH 1 is draining a lot.
Phone idle is taking most power with approximately 17%. Screenshots attached.
Can you please advise if this is normal and ways to minimize battery drain ?
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My Essential PH 1 is draining a lot.
Phone idle is taking most power with approximately 17%. Screenshots attached.
Can you please advise if this is normal and ways to minimize battery drain ?
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Are you showing off? because those are amazing numbers. You're on track for 35 hours! I get around 26. Your bigger killer is What's App, but that's expected for a Facebook app. 17% for idle means your phone is on and doing nothing 17% of the time.
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Are you showing off? because those are amazing numbers. You're on track for 35 hours! I get around 26. Your bigger killer is What's App, but that's expected for a Facebook app. 17% for idle means your phone is on and doing nothing 17% of the time.
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Nope I am not showing off, I think i am having huge drains when I am asleep. Most of the time in that graph is idle time so i am thinking it should be better ?
Again I moved recently to droid from iOS so i am unsure of the droid power management baselines.
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Nope I am not showing off, I think i am having huge drains when I am asleep. Most of the time in that graph is idle time so i am thinking it should be better ?
Again I moved recently to droid from iOS so i am unsure of the droid power management baselines.
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Cool. I didn't mean to seem mean, but those are good numbers. If your phone is on, and you have push notifications (pretty much every social media app, phone, sms, etc.) you're going to have drain. Even if the phone was off, the battery would drain somewhat. But you have What's App and other chat apps, so that'll use battery, even if your asleep, the phone isn't. It's the only way you would be able to receive calls, text, updates, etc.
That 17% looks steep, but it's all relative to a small screen. over the span of 20 hours and you still have almost 50% battery, especially with "free" apps that are basically advertising engines pushing ads at your every minute. Having Phone Idle at the top is not a bad thing, it just means you don't use your phone as much as you use What's App.
1% per hour is good, better than our S8 even
I had enabled "Cellular data always active" and it chewed through my battery life. I turned it off and can now last 1.5 days on a charge.
My phone is draining 12% overnight. And phone idle is top of the list. What does this phone idle do? There was a random night where the phone only dropped 1%. But most nights, it's draining around 10% with phone idle at the top.
Update: setting wifi to not stay on while phone is sleeping seems to fix the drain issue.
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I had enabled "Cellular data always active" and it chewed through my battery life. I turned it off and can now last 1.5 days on a charge.
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Does disabling it affect receiving messages that rely on mobile data such as WhatsApp?
Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?
If your losing that much overnight it's probably a bad app.
I don't use it, but have read that the Facebook messenger is good for that. As in eating up a battery overnight.
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Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?
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I can promise you that that's not normal, especially for this phone. Overnight battery loss is minimal, 15 hours of idle with a 10% drain is what I'm getting. That's pretty amazing. I'd check your apps and ask the general android forums for advice. I also bet there is a rogue app draining you juice. chat and social media apps with all their pushed content and friend updates are huge battery killers.
Install accu battery ,charger to full last thing at night ,don't touch through night ,then see what's draining battery ,mine drains by about 2/3% through 8/9 hrs at night
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Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?
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It's under developer options settings. I have mine always active without draining my battery noticeable.
The social media apps such as snapchat, facebook, twitter, etc... are the ones draining your battery while your phone is idle so you need to disable their background data running.
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Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?
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The option to Cellular Data Always Active is on the Developer Hidden Menu. If you have it enabled you should be able to turn it off.
Thanks to all for the replies. I thought that restoring factory settings had helped somewhat, but it turns out not to have. Battery has just depleted from 100% to 67% in 3 hours while the phone has sat idle.
The only social media apps I have installed are FB and Whatapp. Notifications for both are turned off. Location services for all apps are also off. The only apps I have installed have been download from the Play Store and have run on my previous phones without causing any trouble. Those who replied all suspect a bad app, so I have installed ACCU Battery as suggested to see if I can nail it down.
Thanks again for the responses.
Try this for one night. Right before bed....
1. Turn OFF WiFi
2. Reboot phone
3. Leave WiFi off after reboot
There is a bug in Google Play Services that affects many people on many different phone types since the November updates.
When on wifi, in certain circumstances (many theories on what the actually trigger is) it will cause Google Play Services to run non stop on certain WiFi networks causing huge battery drain.
In this particular scenario, turning off Wifi does not stop the battery drain. The phone has to be reboot.
I don't know if that is what you are experiencing, as you didn't say if it was an app or system taking so much battery, but I thought I would mention it in case it helps.
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Why don't you look in settings/battery and see what is using the highest percentage of the battery?
Have looked in Settings/Battery, but am not seeing anything there that diagnoses the problem to my understanding. Highest use shown is Chrome (4%), then Screen (4%) then Google Play services (3%). ACCU Battery app shows the same. Battery is still losing 10-12% of its charge per hour while the phone is idle.
Have sent a message to Essential support to ask if they know anything about a bug in Google Play services causing battery drain. They have so far only suggested rebooting to safe mode and doing the reset to factory settings. Hasn't helped.
Will try shutting wifi off, rebooting and leaving wifi off tonight as suggested. Not really sure where to go from there even if that does save the battery, as a phone that has its battery drained just by being on wifi is useless to me.
If turning off WiFi and rebooting helps reduce system cpu usage, it is a bug in the software and not the phone. I can reproduce that specific issue on my pixel 2 and Samsung Galaxy s8, too....
If the CPU usage isn't from system, though, or turning WiFi off and rebooting doesn't help then you obviously have a completely different issue and need to troubleshoot further.
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Update:. Nothing Essential support has suggested has helped. Battery is draining to zero overnight while phone is idle both when connected to wifi and when not.
Upon learning that I had purchased the phone at a Telus store in Canada, Essential have said that they can't help me further and have referred me to the store for assistance. I'm disappointed in the lack of support from Essential.