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Consistent blurry pictures with flash *big picture warning*

I can actually say I haven't been able to take 1 clear picture with flash. Is there something wrong with my phone? I have a fairly steady hand, I used to be a DSLR photographer and never had any problems. What gives to this? here are some examples, not even a moving object. These pictures are taken stabilized on my knee
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R.I.P., Left Shift key.
As a rule, indoor pictures with the Evo are just poor quality. Outside, they're crystal clear, but even with the flash, when you're inside the camera is adjusting the exposure to the ambient light, which means grainy, blurry pics. There are some tweaks you can do to minimize this (white balance, exposure defaults, etc.) but in general it's just not that great.
Same with video: If you're inside, the camcorder drops down to, like, 8-10fps capture. Outside it does much better. It's all about the ambient lighting.

the lighting looks bad, and plus you gotta click in the pic to focus it and then hold down the shutter button untill you see your pic, thats the only way i can take pics

Look closely and see if your lens cover is cracked.
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awakener777 said:
Look closely and see if your lens cover is cracked.
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Why would that matter?
Check out this article, it is a good demonstration of how the lens (or in this case, lens cover) really has a very minimal effect - if any - on image quality.

The only fix is to buy the superior phone...
inb4cantmakecalls

Classick206 said:
The only fix is to buy the superior phone...
inb4cantmakecalls
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You're being sarcastic, right? Surely a troll would get 41 posts without being found out.

Are you using the netarchy kernel? I have had similar issues with photos using flash with fresh and the netarchy kernel. Switching back to stock fixed it for me.

SilverZero said:
You're being sarcastic, right? Surely a troll would get 41 posts without being found out.
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So I'm a troll because I can identify a better phone when I see one?

If you were a good troll, you would be doing this on the iPhone site about an EVO. You might just make a few iP4 users' heads explode.

wow ip4 a better phone really go back to your hole in the wall oh wait no ur still stuck behind the walled garden

Classick206 said:
So I'm a troll because I can identify a better phone when I see one?
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A better phone? No. Takes better pics and video, yes. Taking better pics / video doesn't make you a better phone. Making calls with reception makes a better pho... oh wait

SilverZero said:
Why would that matter?
Check out this article, it is a good demonstration of how the lens (or in this case, lens cover) really has a very minimal effect - if any - on image quality.
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Because mine is cracked and it true focusing on the crack, rather than the subject.
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i cant beleive, or i missed, no one pointing this out.
you are friggin shaking in the picture dude.
no picture will look good when there is movement.
but i side with you, my camera compared to my wifes camera is garbage.
my wifes takes consistantly better video and stills than mine does.
mine will show the camera focusing and all it does is focus near then far, then stops, it never stops on the right focus point, you can see where it focuses right on past it.
if there was a hack to allow a slider for focus that would be kick ass.
after some time and practice it would be easy to use the slider for focus.
but my shots such ass, big time.
if i Zoom in it will focus much better than if it isnt.
so i am not sure where the focus point is compared to where you place your finger but it isnt where you place your finger thats for sure.

It sounds like a problem my phone seemed to have in the beginning; it would focus and then stop auto focus a little blurry. I don't know what fixed it, but after I had the phone a few weeks, the issue seemed to go away. Now I can take pretty clear and amazingly focused photos.
As for the iPhone troll, I ignored him as I was on a website viewing some flash content on my phone just after I got done with a video conference on 3G . I then made a phone call and held the phone with both hands without dropping the call.

Classick206 said:
So I'm a troll because I can identify a better phone when I see one?
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Just wondering why you would post on the Evo forum only to say that the iPhone is better, especially when it's really subjective to say that. You must admit, that is rather troll-ish.

Classick206 said:
The only fix is to buy the superior phone...
inb4cantmakecalls
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You do know that the camera tech is almost identical? Only thing that is changing the "quality" of the pictures/video is software + compression.
Another typical oblivious iPhone user...

New Camera defect?

i was waiting at the vet and decided to snap a picture of my dog
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both the still and viewfinder display show these lines
(a reset to factory settings via the camera app restores it to normal)
is this something anyone else has experienced?

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it's just 1 of many screen names of someone who is upset about something the Mods have done.
does the camera only have the issue with stock app or does it do it with 3rd party apps like Camera 360?
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Yea i'd have to agree download a second Camera Application to see if it happens on a secondary program. That will isolate the difference between a bad camera or bad programing.

you know i didnt look and see if camera360 was doing it
my suspicions lie in the camera app getting wonky (see: using multiple programs and getting a bad driver warning...please restart)
it happens
ill check another app besides stock when it happens again
thanks guys

This is a common issue when taking digital pictures under florescent lights. Its due to the frequency the lights flash at.
It is a very inconsistent problem in most cases. A better way to see if there is really a problem is by taking pics in different settings and lighting conditions.

tintingkc said:
This is a common issue when taking digital pictures under florescent lights. Its due to the frequency the lights flash at.
It is a very inconsistent problem in most cases. A better way to see if there is really a problem is by taking pics in different settings and lighting conditions.
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Bingo, this is the answer.

tintingkc said:
This is a common issue when taking digital pictures under florescent lights. Its due to the frequency the lights flash at.
It is a very inconsistent problem in most cases. A better way to see if there is really a problem is by taking pics in different settings and lighting conditions.
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nailed it
the 2x it has happened has been in similar lighting situations

This happens to me with my Epic when I set it to lock at 800 ISO

Whosdaman said:
This happens to me with my Epic when I set it to lock at 800 ISO
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At that point your bringing a lot of noise(grain) in so the issue is amplified.
Many think mega pixels make a good camera. This can be no further from the truth. The sensor and processing is what really makes the difference provided there are good optics(lens). Something you will not see on a phone. Nokia is still the only one that has done well here.
You are going to get noise and banding with cell phone pics unless the lighting is optimal. Its a give and take that has to be dealt with. Phones have terrible lenses and cheap sensors. The two key functions to a quality photo. The only reason they look as good as they do is processing done in the built in software.
The cameras on the phones these days are doing well but will never replace your point and shoot or DSLR.

tintingkc said:
At that point your bringing a lot of noise(grain) in so the issue is amplified.
Many think mega pixels make a good camera. This can be no further from the truth. The sensor and processing is what really makes the difference provided there are good optics(lens). Something you will not see on a phone. Nokia is still the only one that has done well here.
You are going to get noise and banding with cell phone pics unless the lighting is optimal. Its a give and take that has to be dealt with. Phones have terrible lenses and cheap sensors. The two key functions to a quality photo. The only reason they look as good as they do is processing done in the built in software.
The cameras on the phones these days are doing well but will never replace your point and shoot or DSLR.
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Yeah nokia has some amazing cameras on their phones think of if nokia made a android... that would be amazing xD i love their build quality and phones just.. symbian ew

tell me about it
http://thehandheldblog.com/2010/10/04/shootout-nokia-n8-v-canon-550d-dslr/

DSLR Photo Illustration of visible screen burn + ink marks issue

Hey xda members,
just had a bit of spare time so I decided to make some photos of my GS2 while displaying a totally black screen.
Normally you can only see these "effects" when you're in a completely dark room while looking at the GS2 being the only light-emitting source through its display.
Note: The actual purpose of this thread is to educate those people who can't imagine what burn-in/ink marks look like in reality. That's it, just plain visual information.
So I hope this isn't an issue even if there may already be a similar thread
I made some of the photos with the roomlights turned off and others with a very dim light.
The photos were shot using a Nikon D3100 DSLR with long exposure/high aperture settings.
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As you can see in the first photo (below), even if the GS2's display shows a completely black image, which should result in a black display (OLED = pixel off) it shows weird marks and still emits a tiny amount of light.
In the second photo I have marked all the relevant weird spots (including screen burn-in caused by grey status bar [see below, marked by arrow])
The OLEDs in the burn-in area seemed to wear out faster because of the static grey shade it was displaying all the time thus resulting in this permanent color change in the affected area.
This burn-in was apparently caused by this theme which I was using for several months. As you can see, even the status bar in a dark grey shade can cause burn in.
A couple of more photos (with different white balance):
See below for photos in full resolution:
Hope this helps in any way and gives those people an impression who can't really imagine how screen burn-in can be caused and how these display issues (ink marks) actually look like when you capture them properly.

Very interesting indeed. Thanks for the great images, it's certainly an eye-opener to one of the main drawbacks of S-AMOLED screens.
Regards.

How long have you had your phone?
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How long have you had your phone?
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Roughly about nine months, bought it in October 2011.
Sent from my SGS2.

Hope this is no news? Every AMOLED burns in (like crazy). Been doing that since the first models were on the market.
Every SGS2 has it, whether people say yes or no. On my SGS2 it was clearly visible after around six months. Knew it beforehand so it was no biggie/surprise.

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Every SGS2 has it, whether people say yes or no. On my SGS2 it was clearly visible after around six months. Knew it beforehand so it was no biggie/surprise.
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Yeah, also knew it before buying but I never thought the burn-in would look like that so I thought I'd share my experience with the world
While it does look pretty bad on the photos, you can't really see these issues when the screen is turned on with decent brightness, so it's no issue for every day use, but it would be interesting to know how the burn-in looks like if you use your phone for example 3 years.
Still, it looks already really horrible after 9 months of use when you look at the photos. I hope the OLED-technology makes a giant leap forward in the next years so one day these display issues will be a thing of the past.

thanks for the images, i find it disgusting to have that burnt in on a topline expensive phone in short time.
this is my first amoled phone so i dont know what to expect after a year or so, its bad for those who keep thier phones long term, would like to see how the screen is in 5 years time
is it bad when you watch a movie?

republicano said:
thanks for the images, i find it disgusting to have that burnt in on a topline expensive phone in short time.
this is my first amoled phone so i dont know what to expect after a year or so, its bad for those who keep thier phones long term, would like to see how the screen is in 5 years time
is it bad when you watch a movie?
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Well, it depends while watching a movie. Sometimes I can see the burn-in in movies with a lot of dark scenes, in other movies this issue is not apparent.
Either way..since I discovered this issue, I cannot ignore it anymore which doesn't mean it annoys the hell out of me but still it's a pity to see the phone 'degrading' already after not even a year and spending a lot of money on it.
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ya its really annoying especially with my mentality that when I spend a huge amount of money on a tech kit I expect it to give me like 2+ years minimum
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Lol SAMOLED. That is all.

S7 video quality issues

Got my S7 edge late Friday night and took it to the beach to test out on Saturday.
I have to say, I'm taking it back if the issue I experienced isn't fixable.
https://youtu.be/6pCRRbB-Zh4
The video in the link was filmed in FHD 60 FPS, and the issue is the 'color banding' or fragmentation visible in the color of the sky throughout the recordings. Instead of being a smooth backdrop, the colors of the sky frequently seem to fragment /group up and become blocky, almost like the video is poorly compressed. Particularly visible from 1:15 onwards.
I watched someone else's video sample online and it didn't seem to suffer the same issue. Ive had a look at the settings and can't seem to see anything that may cause this. Anyone have any ideas or similar issues?

Bump - anyone else?

Let me help https://youtu.be/6pCRRbB-Zh4, now people can actually link to it. [emoji2] also I haven't seen this on mine.
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Thanks @h3ck. I think I must have a dud device - this is a screenshot of the issue in 4k, too, taken directly from my phone.
I'm trying to work with Samsung now to work out what is wrong. Looks to be compression related.
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I see what you mean, I haven't taken enough video to notice this, but when are you seeing this? After you export, after you upload, on the device itself, etc? Also, I noticed when I went to you video on YouTube it wasn't in 60fps. Not sure if you realized that.
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I see what you mean, I haven't taken enough video to notice this, but when are you seeing this? After you export, after you upload, on the device itself, etc? Also, I noticed when I went to you video on YouTube it wasn't in 60fps. Not sure if you realized that.
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This is actually from the device itself (the lock in the top corner is an s7 function and has appeared in the screenshot) - I think the fact the FHD version wasn't in 60FPS yet was maybe due to being uploaded recently - it's in 60FPS now. I've been testing this afternoon with my Note Edge - definitely better video quality on the old Note

I'm curious how it compares to s6. I had s6 and camera was magnificent. This one is supposed to be better.
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I'm curious how it compares to s6. I had s6 and camera was magnificent. This one is supposed to be better.
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I actually read a review that said the camera is better in low light but worse in daylight/where there are bright lights and/or sunlight. For me, it has a really similar effect to the old Ultrapixel cameras on the first couple of HTC Ones, i.e. when there is bright light in a photo, it just 'whites out' for want of a better word - completely loses all definition.
A photo of my living room with a lamp on just shows the lamp as a completely white orb, with no definition (Playing around with ISO and shutter speed don't help much at all.), whereas on my old Note Edge (same cam as the s6 I believe), you can make out the edges of the lamp.

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What camera module do you have in your phone ? Sony IMX 260 or Samsung Britecell ? Install Aida64 to find out.

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What camera module do you have in your phone ? Sony IMX 260 or Samsung Britecell ? Install Aida64 to find out.
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Hi CST - I have the Sony IMX

I think I see what the error is with the video. It looks like when you actually export the video the compression on it changes the quality. I would compare the actual video on the phone itself prior to exporting versus the video when it was exported. I see a significant degradation in video quality from post and pre exportation.
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So I read that YouTube doesn't even support 60fps on s7 edge yet (for viewing, so that explains why it wasn't an option for me). Secondly, what I previously mentioned holds true about conversion. Idk how people are keeping s7 video at 60 fps because mine seems to convert to plain 1080P when I trim the clip and export.
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Update - playlist featuring 3 videos indicating the blockiness and compression artifacts can be found here - others are beginning to notice the same issue
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjb1yvLQUxljakYRkd-RlPr00COjSOCcw
Also, YouTube does allow 60fps - not sure where you read that. and this artifacting is visible on the phone - i have to use youtube to be able to share samples of the problem.

next time, you can upload the original video file to dropbox or pcloud , others can view it online or download it.

Anyone having trouble turning off "make up" mode on the front-facing camera?

Anyone having trouble turning off "make up" mode on the front-facing camera?
I know there's the slider at the bottom of the screen when taking a front-facing photo, but I have it at zero, and it's still adding QUITE A BIT of "smoothing" or "make up" to the photo. I'm not sure what the official term is. Is there a way to shut it off completely?
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unfortunately it's the noise reduction it seems for the ffc. can't turn it off completely so it's terrible in low light. got that oil painting look, as we used to call it with the g2.
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unfortunately it's the noise reduction it seems for the ffc. can't turn it off completely so it's terrible in low light. got that oil painting look, as we used to call it with the g2.
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Exactly. I remember the default setting being on 3 or something when I first got the phone, and I turned it to 0 and it was normal. But since I took a couple of updates this week, it seems I can't turn it off completely. Just awful.

Can't give you a full run down as to what is going on without seeing the exif information from the photo but there's a few things possibly going on here to keep in mind. (I'm assuming we are not looking at the full image but just a crop?)
First, I'm not sure how they're making the normal/wide thing work for the FFC. I'm guessing that they're just cropping the wide angle sensor data to give the normal view but that's not what the image properties say when viewing images on the phone. They say the same exact image size. I'm thinking this isn't true. I can't believe that they have a lens that actually zooms on a FFC module or there would be one on the back of every cellphone that these companies would be bragging about. So my guess is that the image properties is just writing the settings and not the actual image data. This means that if you are using the full setting for the sensor (5mp supposedly) you are only getting a full 5mp if you're shooting the wide angle. The regular view will be noticeably less.
Which brings me to point #2. Just like on the main camera around back, it isn't defaulting to using the full sensor. Instead, they opt to default to a 16x9 which is only 3.7mp. So if you're shooting the default AND normal mode, you're looking at less than 3.7mp. (Oh, and about that 5mp? It only shows up as 4.9 in the image properties.)
Then yes, there's the noise reduction. Which they seemed to have decided to err on the side of over applying than under applying. But here's the thing. To see this on a full resolution shot, I have to zoom in further than the intended viewing "distance". The problem is that images coming out of cellphones just aren't up to the task of being cropped aggressively. Heck, you really have to get to a much larger sensor before even thinking about that. Some 1" sensors can kind of do OK but I'd say you would want to get to at least a four thirds or dx sized sensor before considering cropping a lot. Even then, you're usually in the territory of swappable lenses which is preferred over cropping. Cropping is always last resort.
Edit to add, as for the question about shutting it off completely..... the beauty thing is most likely off when it hits zero and everything else you see is just noise reduction. The best way to minimize noise reduction is to be shooting at base ISO which means shooting with A LOT of light. Think daylight. Shooting in normal indoor lighting usually isn't enough as we tend to keep our lighting pretty soft, even when you don't think it is. (also for power savings and keep heat down) If you want to make sure the absolute minimum noise reduction is going on, shoot RAW which means shooting the main sensor on the other side. I don't think RAW is available on the FFC? RAW shots will show you everything coming off the sensor in all its "glory". This goes for any camera. Just be warned, for cellphone camera sensors, this will not be pretty.