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Battery Life Testing - Kernel + Rom Combo's

Iv always considered battery life a very important factor in my purchasing of a phone and was one of the big reasons i moved from my Desire HD to the Nexus S (amongst many others). However having been on the android scene for a while im used to tinkering with kernels and roms etc and due to the new battery graph in gingerbread im now able to make direct comparisons rom by rom and kernel by kernel to see how they all differ. This is all shown + explained below.
First id like to explain my method;
I install the rom and kernel with the same apps I always use and charge the phone fully until i am about to go to sleep. I then unplug the phone and leave it in the exactly the same place on my desk with exactly the same settings (sync intervals etc) and i kill all apps before i leave it just to make sure the test is fair.
In the morning i then take a screen shot of the battery life over the period of usually 8 hours and will upload this for you to see. I then look at the over-night battery drain as a comparison on how good battery life is on specific roms and kernels.
Justification - Many of you may be thinking who cares about standby battery life? I care about the battery when im using it!?
Well although that's valid there are many reasons i have taken this approach;
1. It is completely fair i.e. no individual differences such as 'im a heavy user' but we all have different definitions of a 'heavy user'. This is eliminated by the fact the phone is not used and thus the same every time (no individual differences)
2. If a phone has severe battery drain during sleep general knowledge should dictate that battery drain should increase when the screen is on, cpu is working and your syncing your facebook wall, thus a direct correlation with sleep battery drain and usage drain should be apparent.
Therefore i have decided over the next few days/weeks etc i will upload on a regular basis a screenshot of the battery drain over night, along with the battery use details and screen on time etc etc. In addition to the rom and kernel info and i hope that over time this proves to be a very useful thread.
I have been doing this over the last few days on a less strict system and there have been some VERY interesting results which i will upload over the next few days.
(Just a final note iv never really done anything like this on xda before so if its a stupid idea then please tell me now so i dont waste my time doing it, however if people are really interested please let me know and il make sure i do my best!!)
Thanks for reading my extremely long post!
Bratfink
SCREENSHOT 1: This was using modacos custom rom r10 and the kernel that comes with it, i had quite a short sleep (about 6 hours) but the curve pretty much shows what the point im trying to make is. The battery life is great!!
SCREENSHOT 2: This is CM7 Nightly build 27# with Netarchy's latest 1.2.1 kernel and although i didnt use the screen once of charge for a few minutes as you can see once the screen was off battery life barely decreased and was over a long period of time.
If anyone wants me to test specific combos please let me know.

I'm actually looking forward to reading your results.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

Yep, this would actually be pretty useful. Good luck and good work!

i'm a sucker for these types of tests, always love doing them and seeing the results. post soon!

I like others will be keeping an interested eye on your findings.

Uploading pictures of modaco r10 with it's own original kernel today. Its an interesting result!
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
Uploaded to OP

I'm interested too.

Can u try modaco r10 with Netarchy 1.2.1 kernel.
bratfink said:
Iv always considered battery life a very important factor in my purchasing of a phone and was one of the big reasons i moved from my Desire HD to the Nexus S (amongst many others). However having been on the android scene for a while im used to tinkering with kernels and roms etc and due to the new battery graph in gingerbread im now able to make direct comparisons rom by rom and kernel by kernel to see how they all differ. This is all shown + explained below.
First id like to explain my method;
I install the rom and kernel with the same apps I always use and charge the phone fully until i am about to go to sleep. I then unplug the phone and leave it in the exactly the same place on my desk with exactly the same settings (sync intervals etc) and i kill all apps before i leave it just to make sure the test is fair.
In the morning i then take a screen shot of the battery life over the period of usually 8 hours and will upload this for you to see. I then look at the over-night battery drain as a comparison on how good battery life is on specific roms and kernels.
Justification - Many of you may be thinking who cares about standby battery life? I care about the battery when im using it!?
Well although that's valid there are many reasons i have taken this approach;
1. It is completely fair i.e. no individual differences such as 'im a heavy user' but we all have different definitions of a 'heavy user'. This is eliminated by the fact the phone is not used and thus the same every time (no individual differences)
2. If a phone has severe battery drain during sleep general knowledge should dictate that battery drain should increase when the screen is on, cpu is working and your syncing your facebook wall, thus a direct correlation with sleep battery drain and usage drain should be apparent.
Therefore i have decided over the next few days/weeks etc i will upload on a regular basis a screenshot of the battery drain over night, along with the battery use details and screen on time etc etc. In addition to the rom and kernel info and i hope that over time this proves to be a very useful thread.
I have been doing this over the last few days on a less strict system and there have been some VERY interesting results which i will upload over the next few days.
(Just a final note iv never really done anything like this on xda before so if its a stupid idea then please tell me now so i dont waste my time doing it, however if people are really interested please let me know and il make sure i do my best!!)
Thanks for reading my extremely long post!
Bratfink
SCREENSHOT 1: This was using modacos custom rom r10 and the kernel that comes with it, i had quite a short sleep (about 6 hours) but the curve pretty much shows what the point im trying to make is. The battery life is great!!
If anyone wants me to test specific combos please let me know.
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I'd be interested in seeing CM7, just whatever nightly build you manage to catch.

I don't think that result will give you precise result.
I found that statistic is wrong sometimes.
It is better to measure using "play video loop".
So, find a movie, set to the same brightness and play in loop?

gogol said:
I don't think that result will give you precise result.
I found that statistic is wrong sometimes.
It is better to measure using "play video loop".
So, find a movie, set to the same brightness and play in loop?
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Unfortunately that will not give you how well the rom does while it is idle.

I'm really looking forward to your results. My only issue with this phone is the battery life is terrible. I ordered an extended battery off Ebay 3 weeks ago and have yet to receive it. Never ordering anything from Hong Kong again!

Fuse8499 said:
I'm really looking forward to your results. My only issue with this phone is the battery life is terrible. I ordered an extended battery off Ebay 3 weeks ago and have yet to receive it. Never ordering anything from Hong Kong again!
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What were you using before that you consider this phone to have bad battery life? By far this phone has the best battery life of any Android device I've owned. If you want bad battery life, get an Evo. That is horrific battery life.

bratfink said:
Uploading pictures of modaco r10 with it's own original kernel today. Its an interesting result!
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
Uploaded to OP
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I am looking forward to the rest of these, however just a quick question. What was your battery use like in that situation with the stock ROM? Just for reference, because I'm thinking I might switch to modaco soon. Thanks!

More soon
Iv got a few more screenies but it seems i may have to end this thread prematurely. Its the SNS or 2.3 but idle battery usage for me is pretty much identical no matter what the kernel or rom (il upload a CM7 + Netarchy 1.2.1 shot top op). This was unexpected on my behalf because with my DHD kernels and roms had a big impact on idle battery consumption. I have noticed however that without a full wipe when changing some kernels such as with M r10 idle battery life can increase drastically. I will continue for the next few days and if i dont see any big changes i may move method to a video loop or something of the sort.

Interesting find
I found out something today that may interest may of you. I was messing around with the sleep profiles on SetCpu with netarchys kernel and i found that its better to leave the range from 100-800 than 100-400 or less. This i believe is because when the phone is asleep and carries out a process it will be forced to clock to the maximum of 400mhz and then stay at that speed for 10 seconds, instead of say going up to 800mhz for 1-2 seconds to complete the same process. So a tip to you would be set your profile to 100-800mhz conservative and see what you get!

bratfink said:
I found out something today that may interest may of you. I was messing around with the sleep profiles on SetCpu with netarchys kernel and i found that its better to leave the range from 100-800 than 100-400 or less. This i believe is because when the phone is asleep and carries out a process it will be forced to clock to the maximum of 400mhz and then stay at that speed for 10 seconds, instead of say going up to 800mhz for 1-2 seconds to complete the same process. So a tip to you would be set your profile to 100-800mhz conservative and see what you get!
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This kinda enforces the point that SetCPU is useless for the NS unless you really want to overclock...
Any battery saving tactics used buy lowering screen off profiles are counteracted by the system process;( So i think in the context of battery life you are probably better to not use SetCPU
JD

bratfink said:
Iv got a few more screenies but it seems i may have to end this thread prematurely. Its the SNS or 2.3 but idle battery usage for me is pretty much identical no matter what the kernel or rom (il upload a CM7 + Netarchy 1.2.1 shot top op). This was unexpected on my behalf because with my DHD kernels and roms had a big impact on idle battery consumption. I have noticed however that without a full wipe when changing some kernels such as with M r10 idle battery life can increase drastically. I will continue for the next few days and if i dont see any big changes i may move method to a video loop or something of the sort.
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I would definitely move to a video loop or some other 'heavy use' task because when you think about it, not too much can really be changed when almost no power is being used in the first place.
You could also just mention your general feeling for the battery life of each rom, because quite often that is what I go by as my usage varies depending on a range of things (school day or weekend etc) .
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

Could you please test modaco r10 with Netarchy's latest 1.2.1 kernel ?
I would love to see the difference between modaco's default kernel vs netarchy's kernel.

On CM nightly 13, I just went 11 hours and I'm at 90%. That's 1/2% an hour. Not bad. That is with stock kernel.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

DesireZ ICS Battery life, is yours worse?

Hi all,
Just wondering if your all seeing reduced battery life with the ICS builds for the DesireZ?
I was using Miui (2.x) and now trying out Ice Cream JIBWich,and Im discovering the battery life is most certainly less. I've also tried CM9 Alpha and Andromedus r13, all roughly the same.
Battery Widget reports on average 40(ish)mA in sleep, I havent compared it to Miui but just wondering I've done something wrong here..
Install procedure this time was a factory wipe.
Comments?
Angelo

I don't know if my battery life is worse on ICS than on CM or stock 2.3. Because I don't have any logs of battery life. Maybe I will do some tests in next week, just for curious.
So... I'm getting 30mA - 34mA drain on idle on Andromadus v13 with default kernel. It is lower than yours. I'm using latest radio now (.19).

After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be indicative of the final product.

I don't have any hard numbers, but based on my moderate usage, (8am to 11pm) I go from 100% to about 40%. Fairly good IMO when compared to sense roms (that i'm used to) but not as good when compared to AOSP GB or MIUI roms..

Hmm I found my battery doing suprisingly well compared to aosp gb, now that I'm using ics its lasting longer than ever.
It probably has to do with better app/process management.
That's my experience..
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA

Well, this might sound strange to say but i'm actually getting the best battery life i've ever had out of ICS so far with Andromadus v13/Jibwich 1.3 on my phone. I seem to manage to get really long charges of at least 48 hours. Maybe i'm not using my phone as much as i was with GB? I'm not quite sure if that's the case or not, but i'm consistently getting longer lasting charges than ever before with GB.
Thing is though that ICS ROMs DO seem to drain the battery more while the phone is actively being used (in comparison to AOSP GB ROMs), this seems to be the case for me, as well as some other people that i've seen.
There were a few strange versions of Andromadus and Jibwich though which seemed to cause severe battery drain for me. Fortunately, that hasn't been the case with any of the latest versions.
All of that said, i still don't think anything compares to the battery life on G2 Slim (Gingerbread AOSP ROM), that ROM has ridiculously good battery life. With that one, i'd use my phone a fair bit (couple hours of tethering, gaming, lots of texting and calls) and it would still last for at least 44 hours or so.
In the end though, there are still some GB ROMs that have much worse battery life than ICS for me. For example, all CM7 variants that i've tried has always had this frustrating radio related battery drain, then some Sense ROMs seem to drain the battery a bit more than AOSP ROMs too. In response to the OP, i never really got amazing battery life with MIUI, so ICS has been a much better experience so far in that regard.
What i do know for sure though is that battery life with ICS is MUCH better than the stock gingerbread OTA update that our phones got.

thanks all,
I've done some checking and according to battery monitor, my JIBWIch rom seams to be fluctuating .. from 36mA to 97mA in standby which to be indicates something's running.. not sure what... Anyone recommend a decent process monitor, there's soo many of them
>After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called >optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
>And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be >indicative of the final product.
Agreed..
I'll see how it goes but I might have to go back to Miui (GB) as I use the phone for work..

asantaga said:
thanks all,
I've done some checking and according to battery monitor, my JIBWIch rom seams to be fluctuating .. from 36mA to 97mA in standby which to be indicates something's running.. not sure what... Anyone recommend a decent process monitor, there's soo many of them
>After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called >optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
>And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be >indicative of the final product.
Agreed..
I'll see how it goes but I might have to go back to Miui (GB) as I use the phone for work..
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Here was my (personal) record breaking charge on Andromadus v13 https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/12263406/1/screenies?h=c9ef42
You can see part of my configuration there (radio and CPU speeds).
On top of what's already there, i use supercharger RC6.9 with option 6 and nitro-lag-nullifier.
here are my usage patterns for good battery life:
-I generally stick to 2g networks as i don't do much web browsing while i'm out but when i do, i just switch to 3g.
-I also don't regularly use any task killers but if i detect any choppyness i kill app using Advanced Task Killer.
-I don't use auto-brightness and instead i just use the notification power widget.
-I do lots and lots of texting, some calls here and there, i often use wifi hotspot and i play 2d games a little bit at times, so i'm generally a light-moderate user.
-I also "debloat" as much as possible by getting rid of any system apps that i don't use.
On a random note, right now, i'm using Jibwich 1.3 and it is so great, battery life seems the same as andromadus v13 but this ROM is actually much more smooth and fluid on the home screen.
I hope this helps a bit, give me a thanks if you found this useful ;D

hey thanks for this, yeah very nice!
Just occured to me, im currently in Madrid (Roaming), and the phone's on 2g at the moment, I WONDER.. just wonder, if its constantly hunting for 3G signal.. now that would account for the random power demands...
Meanwhilst I found this app http://androidadvices.com/save-battery-android-phone-enabling-2g-network/
Apart from adding a 2g/3g toggle it also makes the phone go to 2g when sleeping.. I mean when its sleeping we dont need 3g access....
Anyone else tried it? or can recommend a different better/app?

asantaga said:
hey thanks for this, yeah very nice!
Just occured to me, im currently in Madrid (Roaming), and the phone's on 2g at the moment, I WONDER.. just wonder, if its constantly hunting for 3G signal.. now that would account for the random power demands...
Meanwhilst I found this app http://androidadvices.com/save-battery-android-phone-enabling-2g-network/
Apart from adding a 2g/3g toggle it also makes the phone go to 2g when sleeping.. I mean when its sleeping we dont need 3g access....
Anyone else tried it? or can recommend a different better/app?
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Go to settings --> wireless and networks --> mobile networks
Now see if you have "use only 2g networks" checked. If you do, that'd be why you're always connecting to 2g networks.
As a battery saving tip, it's best to always check that option when you don't need mobile data (like when you're at home and wifi is available).
In addition to that, if that option is NOT checked, then your phone will connect to 3g networks where applicable, you have to check if your carrier actually uses 3g networks on your plan.
Also that app seems fine, but i wouldn't use the "use 2g when sleep" option because that could cause problems with reception between waking and sleeping because it'll be erratically switching between basebands all the time.

asantaga said:
Hi all,
Just wondering if your all seeing reduced battery life with the ICS builds for the DesireZ?
I was using Miui (2.x) and now trying out Ice Cream JIBWich,and Im discovering the battery life is most certainly less. I've also tried CM9 Alpha and Andromedus r13, all roughly the same.
Battery Widget reports on average 40(ish)mA in sleep, I havent compared it to Miui but just wondering I've done something wrong here..
Install procedure this time was a factory wipe.
Comments?
Angelo
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It looks to me that yes. Tried 3 ICS inluding JIBWich and CM9 based and battery life was reduced to me about 1/3 maybe 1/4. looks like that. Hope some improovment will come in near future.

I'm running Andromadus v13 and it seems to be only a bit worse than the latest CM7 nightly. However, this is only my subjective opinion, it could be that I'm using my phone more with ICS
I also have the .19 radio and the tweaks associated with v13.

Well from what i've seen, ICS has very steep and sudden drops in the battery stats graph when the phone is being used. This is in contrast to many gingberbread ROMs which just have a sloping negative curve on the battery stats graph. This seems to indicate that ICS uses more battery when the phone is being actively used.
I'll post pics after this current charge is over to show a comparison of ICS battery life with Andro v13 and GB battery with Virtuous G-lite 2.0.1.

I don't see any difference between GB and the ICS battery usage, maybe because i allways configure it from begining and don't restore apps via titanium backup or any other app...
Also battery needs to calibrate under new ROM and after few charges you will see it working little bit longer and longer...
ps. Do you have disabled Google Talk on ICS fresh install? He is always on after installing and eats a lot of battery.

louloudi said:
I don't see any difference between GB and the ICS battery usage, maybe because i allways configure it from begining and don't restore apps via titanium backup or any other app...
Also battery needs to calibrate under new ROM and after few charges you will see it working little bit longer and longer...
ps. Do you have disabled Google Talk on ICS fresh install? He is always on after installing and eats a lot of battery.
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I also configure all new rom's from begining and on Affinity 2 - my battery in averange usage die after ~16h but on ISC os about ~13h, I don't know why.
My battery after full charge get 4.212 V , tried clear battery stats bin no effect

My avg runtime on one charge on CM7 w/o oc, with ilwt or pershoot kernel is 60hours (yes! 3 "work days") or atleast 2 days with 50-70 min calls and 25-35 SMS
Turning data and/or wifi when needed makes phone battery least looooonger...
Now testing Andromadus Audacity b1, charged 7.5h ago (4207mV), i will post when empty (or near ~3600-3650)

Also remember that we don't have the proper kernel source for our phone. There are some tweaks that can't really be made yet, and probably a bunch of wasted cpu time where errors and stuff get worked through.
GB battery life was worse than Froyo at the same stage of development. It'll even out better when we have the official kernel source for the DHD, I think.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA

So most ICS based roms have roughly the same battery life?
I'm current on the audacity beta, getting about 20 hours with no charge with moderate use. Gingerbread i could go about a day and acouple more hours.

I'm a bit bitter that I can only use 3G or higher on Bell with my DZ...that means if I want better battery life I need to ditch mobile data altogether. Boo.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA

Better battery life
All,
I was just about to install "Elitemod", which claims to be tuned to bits wrt battery life, and I noticed AudicityBeta1 was released.. so i thought Id try it out.. and
And yes I think its much better!.. this morning I used it a bit, made a dozen phonecalls, sync'd email and for the first time the "voicecalls" are less than the screen.
(see attachment)
Im wondering if the recently released qualcomm drivers made a difference..
At this rate it will last ~40hrs... probably less but as long as it lasts the day Im happy
Anyone else want to confirm my findings?

Siyah vs. CM9 Remix | for Resurrection

Hey this is a thread for all the Resurrection lovers out there to discuss what Kernel goes best with Resurrection ROM
I've tried several Kernels by myself but couldn't come to a conclusion which is better in which aspects.
So lets discuss openly the pros and cons of each Kernel
If you have tried any other kernel other than CM9 and Siyah please put your opinions as well.​

Nice post! I'd be interested to see the results from ppl as I just updated to latest 1.7 remix and this time have left the CM9 kernal. I did think about flashing siyah straight after 1.7 package but decided to give CM9 a trial first
Will report in a few days!

deckio007 said:
Nice post! I'd be interested to see the results from ppl as I just updated to latest 1.7 remix and this time have left the CM9 kernal. I did think about flashing siyah straight after 1.7 package but decided to give CM9 a trial first
Will report in a few days!
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I'm a Siyah fan too but after reading few reviews considered to give a try with CM9 will see how it goes

I'm currently using the stock CM9 with 1.7 and found it to feel pretty good so far, messed up a little yesterday when the phone froze while playing a video.
Before freezing the phone had 50% battery after removing the battery and restarting, the battery had dropped to 15%
I'm still a bit of a noob to all this so go easy
When flashing a new kernel, do I just put the zip on the card and flash?
Or do I need to wipe anything first?

This is my personal opinion, not trying to put anyone down.
Okay tried CM9 Remix kernel for few hours and already fedup :\
I see no better battery life compared to Siyah kernel, in fact CM9 Remix Kernel had lesser support than Siyah.
Lets see;
Siyah -
CWM touch recovery (and full support)
additional cpu governors (lulzactive,smartassV2,etc..)
Overclocking upto 1.6
support for BLN(Back light notifications)
CM9 Remix -
NO CWM touch recover and some of the CWM features are not available
NO additional CPU governors
NO overclocking
NO support for BLN
So for me CM9 Remix kernel isn't the one.
as i have tried Siyah kernel already im going to give Abyss or some other Kernel a try and will update on how it goes

This is a really difficult conversation because there are so many variables.
1) Kernels - each one has configurations so you need to mention what governor you are using and any other mods that you have done to the basic kernal config. Or if you are using it stock without changes you could state that.
2) Apps - all of us have different apps installed and some apps make demands on the system when it is supposed to be "sleeping". Dedicated battery enthusiasts use CPU Spy and Better Battery Stats to try to figure out what is eating the battery all the time. Then they freeze those apps until they are needed.
3) Usage - I'm retired, so I play with my phone a lot....spend an hour a day just reading XDA. I must turn it on at least 30 times between charges. Others have to work, so they put it in their pockets and leave it alone for a while. Some folks play 3D games which consume power like crazy. Using phone data eats more power than wifi. A black background on your screen eats less than a white background... and so on.
So this is not a simple conversation. The more you tell about your situation, the more others can see if it applies to them.
(PS - I´m not talking much about my setup because I'm still on RR 1.1 with Siyah 3.0.1+. I´m trying various governors to see which works best - currently on lutzactive. I'm usually down to around 45% at bedtime which is fine with me.....If I leave the phone alone and just use it as a phone, I can probably go 24 hours.

Siyah: Feature packed, lots of fluff, but very nice options as mentionned earlier.
CM9: Basic, VERY BASIC kernel. Gets the job done and most people sync their base with it.
I personally use CM9 with Siyah, works great.

karendar said:
Siyah: Feature packed, lots of fluff, but very nice options as mentionned earlier.
CM9: Basic, VERY BASIC kernel. Gets the job done and most people sync their base with it.
I personally use CM9 with Siyah, works great.
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Yeaaa, I agree with You
Siyah Kernel works great with My S2

quijote1 said:
This is a really difficult conversation because there are so many variables.
1) Kernels - each one has configurations so you need to mention what governor you are using and any other mods that you have done to the basic kernal config. Or if you are using it stock without changes you could state that.
2) Apps - all of us have different apps installed and some apps make demands on the system when it is supposed to be "sleeping". Dedicated battery enthusiasts use CPU Spy and Better Battery Stats to try to figure out what is eating the battery all the time. Then they freeze those apps until they are needed.
3) Usage - I'm retired, so I play with my phone a lot....spend an hour a day just reading XDA. I must turn it on at least 30 times between charges. Others have to work, so they put it in their pockets and leave it alone for a while. Some folks play 3D games which consume power like crazy. Using phone data eats more power than wifi. A black background on your screen eats less than a white background... and so on.
So this is not a simple conversation. The more you tell about your situation, the more others can see if it applies to them.
(PS - I´m not talking much about my setup because I'm still on RR 1.1 with Siyah 3.0.1+. I´m trying various governors to see which works best - currently on lutzactive. I'm usually down to around 45% at bedtime which is fine with me.....If I leave the phone alone and just use it as a phone, I can probably go 24 hours.
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I totally agree with you.
I use my phone very often too. not to play games but to text, listen to music, and i leave the phone data connected always to use IM services.
I'm sure it must be same with any regular user.
I love to play around with my phone as in trying out new stuff on it
This time its the Kernels and OSs that im testing on currently checking Abyss Kernel and already noticed that the soft key lights should be turned on time to time by going to settings :\
will see how well it does in other aspects

melakamc said:
I totally agree with you.
Im use my very often too. not to play games but to text, listen to music, and i leave the phone data connected always to use IM services.
I'm sure it must be same with any regular user.
I love to play around with my phone as in trying out new stuff on it
This time its the Kernels and OSs that im testing on currently checking Abyss Kernel and already noticed that the soft key lights should be turned on time to time by going to settings :\
will see how well it does in other aspects
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Did you try Siyah with RR 1.7 before going to Abyss? What were your impressions of the usual kernels that you tried? Apparently 1.7 is working well for you?

quijote1 said:
Did you try Siyah with RR 1.7 before going to Abyss? What were your impressions of the usual kernels that you tried? Apparently 1.7 is working well for you?
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I've been using Siyah with RR 1.2 and 1.5 and battery life came upto 8-10hrs
wanted to try a different kernel and chose CM9 Remix which was in the download section of the RR thread and it was an utter disappointment for ME (others might like it)
refer to my earlier post for results.
currently im testing Abyss and will update on how it goes tonight

which one is the best?

meatlover said:
which one is the best?
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It depends on user. Im a heavy user and a need freak so CM9 Remix didnt do much good to me trying Abyss at the moment. Await for results

This is very useful and im waiting for updates

AbyssICS (2.6b)
Okay lets see how Abyss worked out for me.
After the utter dissatisfaction over CM9 Remix kernel Abyss was quite impressive with battery consumption.
there's always a BUT
1. the softykey lights were never on even though i change settings, it stays on till the phone display sleeps and even of you turn the screen on again the lights never come back :\
2. Settings -> Storage always keeps force closing and you cant see the stuff in the external SD card even by using a file explorer (root explorer)
3. I didnt like the screen which comes saying some official italian bla bla when you restart the phone that got a very bad design
soooooooo im switching to Siyah-v3.2b4 after seeing its all new cool features and i found a great article on how to get the best out of the kernel
ill share it here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817

using cm kernel
got 54 hours earlier with moderate use
haven't had any issue so far been using for 4 or 5 days.

hassanal said:
using cm kernel
got 54 hours earlier with moderate use
haven't had any issue so far been using for 4 or 5 days.
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WHAT? 54hrs? NOWAY IN HELL
used any tweaks?

melakamc said:
WHAT? 54hrs? NOWAY IN HELL
used any tweaks?
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No tweaks, but the screen on time suggests that the phone has been on standby most of the time, with no Data.
I always tend to have a fantastic battery performance too when I leave the phone on standby, with no Wifi or Data use.
Regards.

buzzboy said:
No tweaks, but the screen on time suggests that the phone has been on standby most of the time, with no Data.
I always tend to have a fantastic battery performance too when I leave the phone on standby, with no Wifi or Data use.
Regards.
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That must be it, i use Data connection all the time and my screen is on most of the time

I used the stock cm9 for a while on v1.7 RR and found the battery to last quite well, decided to try siyah 3.1.2 a couple of days ago and day by day it is getting better but not sure its as good as the cm9 yet....gonna stick with it for now and see as it has more options.
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[Q] Which ROM/Kernel is the best for me?

Hey guys,
I think I read somewhere that threads like this are not really wanted here? So I'd like to clarify first, I'm looking for certain aspects and not for "the best" rom or whatever. If there's more than one which would meet my criteria, feel free to just name all without any opinion to it
There are just so many roms and kernels and I'm having trouble finding information what they can and cant do...Sometimes it's just a download link and thats it!
I will be travelling with my Nexus 10 and would like to use an internet dongle via USB OTG to access mobile internet in the various countries and I would like to use OTG for storage (usb sticks i guess).
Also it should be stable/fast and I would like to somehow prolong battery life (UC/UV? Dont know anything about that yet but I guess that would be how?), just in case I won't be near a power outlet for a couple of days.
I don't really care too much about design, so minimalistic is best!
Which kernels can I use? Does the rom even matter? are there certain roms that seem to work best with the kernel I would need?
Thanks for any help!! I will get the tablet the day after tomorrow so it'd be awesome to have some information so that I can root and start trying stuff out immediately=)

If you seek stability then go for CleanRom and aosp+ kernel. As for battery life there isn't anything magic out there, just turn the WiFi off when you can.
UV doesn't help, no matter what you will be told, it's just placebo.

I've used mrRobinsons AOKP PUB ROM + Ktmanta kernel for the last 2 months. Just took it on a long trip, used a 32gb USB OTG just fine. I watched several movies and had great battery life. Performance is awesome too.
No experience with an internet dongle, sorry. I just use the hotspot function from my phone.

lvnatic said:
If you seek stability then go for CleanRom and aosp+ kernel. As for battery life there isn't anything magic out there, just turn the WiFi off when you can.
UV doesn't help, no matter what you will be told, it's just placebo.
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It bothers me when someone says that such and such is the only stable combination, it obviously isnt or no one would ever run anything else. I have never had problems when I ran AOKP, or when I used to run CM10, or running on Rasbean which is based on AOSP. Each kernel can have certain releases that have issues, just as Craig's AOSP+ kernel could at some point, but not every release has always or will always be unstable. To my knowledge only Franco's R12 has issues right now and all other kernel releases are fine. Franco's R11 is perfectly fine too.
Also I can both mathematically prove undervolting can save battery and can show you plenty of people with actual experience on it saving battery. So you should really stop going around and spouting off "facts" which are completely untrue. But you are right about there being no magic stuff, it is all science.

I get wonderful battery life daily using KTManta and a tweak of the CPU/GPU. But then, my tweak stops doing so well if I use a CPU intensive app like FL Studio. I can go about 12 hours or more and still have 30-40% of battery left, with off-and-on usage all day including some gaming. Extended gaming (I'm talking Asphalt 7, Shadowgun, not Plague Inc) will murder that, but that's what I set up my CPU/GPU to offset.
Also completely stable with RootBox ROM (or CM10, or AOKP, etc) so long as I don't try "hotplugging"

battery life now and in the future

I would like to know the opinion of you guys about the battery life of the Find 5 and possible future improvements.
Using the latest AOSP ROMS (in my case @maxwen AOKP, Aarons's PA 3.99 and CodefireX) I noticed that battery life is much better then on Oppo's Color ROM, yet it's still far from what I would expect from the device, I barely get more that 2 - 3 hours of screen time out of it on a daily basis. Compared to my last phone (S3) it's actually pretty bad.
Is there a chance that this is due to still poor sw sources from Oppo and might likely improve in the future or is the current battery life as good as it gets, what do you think?

uishido said:
I would like to know the opinion of you guys about the battery life of the Find 5 and possible future improvements.
Using the latest AOSP ROMS (in my case @maxwen AOKP, Aarons's PA 3.99 and CodefireX) I noticed that battery life is much better then on Oppo's Color ROM, yet it's still far from what I would expect from the device, I barely get more that 2 - 3 hours of screen time out of it on a daily basis. Compared to my last phone (S3) it's actually pretty bad.
Is there a chance that this is due to still poor sw sources from Oppo and might likely improve in the future or is the current battery life as good as it gets, what do you think?
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Well, I hope the battery life gets better overall, I get around 3-4 hours on screen time, and that's pretty darn good. Using Spotify/Soundcloud all day long aswell as webbrowsing, Reddit, Twitter and Facebook. I guess the battery life is OK, but I hope it'll get better.
This phone got almost the same batterylife as my S3 4G, which is pretty bad. :/
And I wouldn't hope for Oppo to improve their sources, since it seems like they've no idea what they're doing. ColorROM is still a huge mess!

sebbe312 said:
Well, I hope the battery life gets better overall, I get around 3-4 hours on screen time, and that's pretty darn good. Using Spotify/Soundcloud all day long aswell as webbrowsing, Reddit, Twitter and Facebook. I guess the battery life is OK, but I hope it'll get better.
This phone got almost the same batterylife as my S3 4G, which is pretty bad. :/
And I wouldn't hope for Oppo to improve their sources, since it seems like they've no idea what they're doing. ColorROM is still a huge mess!
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Thanks,
I agree that Color Rom is a nightmare but one can hope...
You seem to use your phone pretty much the same way I do but with somewhat better battery life. May I ask which rom/kernel you are using?
I'm currently on AOKP nightly from 28th September

uishido said:
Thanks,
I agree that Color Rom is a nightmare but one can hope...
You seem to use your phone pretty much the same way I do but with somewhat better battery life. May I ask which rom/kernel you are using?
I'm currently on AOKP nightly from 28th September
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Using latest CodefireX rom with audio fix, I've disabled some system things which seems to help with the battery. Just give me a PM if you want to know exactly what things I've disabled and how I've setup my phone!
Cheers,
Sebastian

I can't understand why everyone says he gets better batterylife with custom roms.
I tried the latest AOSP, PA, Cyanogenmod and gave them all a chance. I even changed the settings that hard, that i couldn't say it was a smartphone anymore... but i've never noticed better batterylife than with any color rom! And all the bugs on custom roms...
Actually i run Color ROM 1.0.1 (4.2.2)
Just bevore i ran Stable Cyanogenmod 10.1.3, PA 3.99, AOKP Maxween
Did you get other experience with the same roms or did you use other roms?

PipoMezenen said:
I can't understand why everyone says he gets better batterylife with custom roms.
I tried the latest AOSP, PA, Cyanogenmod and gave them all a chance. I even changed the settings that hard, that i couldn't say it was a smartphone anymore... but i've never noticed better batterylife than with any color rom! And all the bugs on custom roms...
Actually i run Color ROM 1.0.1 (4.2.2)
Just bevore i ran Stable Cyanogenmod 10.1.3, PA 3.99, AOKP Maxween
Did you get other experience with the same roms or did you use other roms?
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for me, I'm using the CM10.2 by maxwen / etc... definitely much better battery life, especially when on idle/screen-off/sleep... I can make the phone last >24 hours (couldn't do it with the original oppo rom)
settings that I've been using on that kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45835020&postcount=152

paperWastage said:
for me, I'm using the CM10.2 by maxwen / etc... definitely much better battery life, especially when on idle/screen-off/sleep... I can make the phone last >24 hours (couldn't do it with the original oppo rom)
settings that I've been using on that kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45835020&postcount=152
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Ok. Yes, above 24h would be difficult with the color rom. But i never tried to reach 24h with cpu & gpu underclocking...
I think i use my phone relative often and with the ColorRom 4.2.2 i easily reach 12-14h.
And my thoughts on custom roms were, that wehen i have onscreen time i can watch them percents battery life falling and because of this i only got about 6-8h battery life with almost every Custom Rom.
I will post some screenshots of the batterylife with the ColorRom later this day and let you interpret them, ok?