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Hi all
Since Magldr is out,
I used to think this was possible
WINMO on NAND + MAGLDR running android from SD
So if i wanted winmo i just boot straight into my phone if i want android choose it from MAGLDR and boot straight into it
Am i missing something ...
mally2 said:
Am i missing something ...
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Actually yeah I thought I remember somewhere you could still use windows on nand and android on sd, or android on nand and sd.
TheATHEiST said:
Actually yeah I thought I remember somewhere you could still use windows on nand and android on sd, or android on nand and sd.
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EXACTLY ...
its on the wiki page :O
Yeah you're missing something alright.
the MAGLDR enables the ability to load Android from the NAND instead, wiping out WinMo.
Psygnosis84 said:
Yeah you're missing something alright.
the MAGLDR enables the ability to load Android from the NAND instead, wiping out WinMo.
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yes i know that very well,,,
did you happen to read this
http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Magldr
may be cotulla can shed light on this
Keeping WinMo and Having direct boot of Android of sdcard sounds good to me. I read in gauners and cotullas builds that sdcard was faster for reads/writes than nand? Did I read that right?
Also, can anyone answer why you can't have both Android and Winmo on Nand dual booting? I am sure there are good reasons, I just don't know what they are? Is it like in a hard drive where you have the 'active' partition?
pablo71 said:
Keeping WinMo and Having direct boot of Android of sdcard sounds good to me. I read in gauners and cotullas builds that sdcard was faster for reads/writes than nand? Did I read that right?
Also, can anyone answer why you can't have both Android and Winmo on Nand dual booting? I am sure there are good reasons, I just don't know what they are? Is it like in a hard drive where you have the 'active' partition?
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I am perfectly happy with MAGLDR the way it is now,,,
But i was under the impression that WIN mo could be in NAND and Android of SD with MAGLDR we can directly boot android of SD
mally2 said:
But i was under the impression that WIN mo could be in NAND and Android of SD with MAGLDR we can directly boot android of SD
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Yes, I read that on the wiki that was linked above. I like booting Android off sd, but what has me concerned is people a few people saying that sdcards can only handle about 1000writes per block before they go bad. Not a big deal, but someone also wisely said that 'electronics die at the worst time.'
I would really like to know if this is possible
RUN ANDROID, WP7, AND REG WINMO 6.5 on NAND???????
or at least have some way off keeping WINMO 6.5 while being able to use WP7 AND ANDROID
please no has yet to answer this!
Ok so here is my issue,
I recently installed MAGDLR and got Stock Desire ROm running and everything is perfect until I found out that I am unable to run my android ROMS from the SD card!
From the MAGDLR bootloader, i press on boot android from SD = nothing happens.
I realized that maybe haret.exe needs 2 be on the SD card root. So i moved the files.
The bootloader detects the files and boots into Android from SD but then gets stuck at the custom bootloader image of the android ROMS
Tried different ROMS but in vain.
Eversince I installed MAGDLR, I am completely unable of running any ROM from SD.
Does anyone have the same issue or is it only me?
I feel there is a very simple thing I missed and I will feel like an idiot once I know lol.
Any suggestions? I really like testing different ROMS.
Me too, i tried the MIUI ROM from SD (normal rom version) and stucked at MIUI bootloader image.
byl233 said:
Me too, i tried the MIUI ROM from SD (normal rom version) and stucked at MIUI bootloader image.
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Did u move ur system files from folder "Android" to the root of the card like I did?
Or was haret.exe already in the root of ur card by default?
I am thinking that this file moving might have caused this
I'm not sure you need to move your files. You can actually configure the Android directory in magldr's settings.
I'm not sure current SD builds are that compatible with being launched from magldr, though. First thing I tried after installing magldr was launching my old m-deejay DesireHD build, but it would just freeze immediately after displaying "preparing sd-card".
meptik said:
I'm not sure you need to move your files. You can actually configure the Android directory in magldr's settings.
I'm not sure current SD builds are that compatible with being launched from magldr, though. First thing I tried after installing magldr was launching my old m-deejay DesireHD build, but it would just freeze immediately after displaying "preparing sd-card".
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ya seems like old SD android ROMS are not compatible with MAGDLR. I thought they would be
Does anyone know what we or the devs can do to resolve this? My builds on SD also freeze at preparing SD card.
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jimhaddon said:
Does anyone know what we or the devs can do to resolve this? My builds on SD also freeze at preparing SD card.
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AFAIK magdlr cant read the required settings over the startup.txt still, but it would, read the first post over the magdlr thread by cotulla, it would even load wm6.5 and wp7 builds over NAND! its a matter of time (and patience )
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Does anyone know what we or the devs can do to resolve this? My builds on SD also freeze at preparing SD card.
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Same here, I installed Mgrldr 1.11 in order to use MDJ nand hd superlight 2.2, but nand is today and at this point too..... Experimental !!!!! to be use daily.
I manage to load my "OLD !" SD Android, but it stucks on homescreen while charging SD card, very frustrating...
With the recent developments of Android and WP7 for the HD2, I really can't decide between the two. Will there be an option of dual boot like with WM6.5? I'd love to have this option.
I would definitely love for this to happen, although WP7 is in the lead for me now, booting android once in a while wont be so bad.
i think itz possible in tmobile usa HD2 with itz 1gb ROM ... two partitions using two NAND OS... dual NAND..
I'm very interested in this option. Hopefully this will be available soon.
I hoppe we find a solution for Leo from EU (512Mo).
Like WIN6.5 + Android on SD ?
My favorite way : Android in NAND, WP7 on SD !!
think we should be able to still boot android off sd with magldr... we just need to switch to a different sd card that wasn't used with wp7. I hope its possible. will be trying it soon.
i would love to do this, i have a 124 leo.
F*ck the 512!
Android+WP7 would be sweeeet for 1024!
http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
James_Caliber said:
http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
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im still running an old build of sd, so is it possible to upgrade radio, magldr, win7 nand and keep android on sd?
im not really wanting to give up android just yet, but i do admit i want to see what win7 is like
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http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
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based by the link above (with google translate), its possible to dual boot with wp7 nand and android sd
Is it possible to back up a android nand rom, so i don't need to download al apps again and set them all up again?
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Is it possible to back up a android nand rom, so i don't need to download al apps again and set them all up again?
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SEARCH!!!
But since your lazy, yes there is. Its called Titanium backup and it saves all your apps and settings into a file. When you install a new build just recover that file from within Titanium backup and all your apps and stuff will be there.
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http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
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So...does anyone here speak enough Chinese to make more sense of this than Google Translate does? I think some sort of modification needs to be made to init.rc. Possibly system.img too. It's also not clear to me if a NAND or SD ROM is meant to be used. There are some links which I'm trying to make sense of...
Dark Fire said:
So...does anyone here speak enough Chinese to make more sense of this than Google Translate does? I think some sort of modification needs to be made to init.rc. Possibly system.img too. It's also not clear to me if a NAND or SD ROM is meant to be used. There are some links which I'm trying to make sense of...
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Im unsure on how to do this also, if anybody fancys typing it into something we could follow it would be great!
Im in work today and my phone is fully charged ready for win7/android combo
How would you boot android from nand if you can't access the file system of the SD card?
Its an unknown format and magldr surely won't be able to boot anything from it.
Maybe it works the other way round, though?
Or you could use your phone7 without sd card...
hey that may even work.
Limited storage for phone7 - who cares?
domenukk said:
Or you could use your phone7 without sd card...
hey that may even work.
Limited storage for phone7 - who cares?
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That's what I would like to be able to do. WP7 is nice to play with at this stage but I still plan to use Android most of the time.
Ali_Shaikh said:
SEARCH!!!
But since your lazy, yes there is. Its called Titanium backup and it saves all your apps and settings into a file. When you install a new build just recover that file from within Titanium backup and all your apps and stuff will be there.
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Thanks alot, i wasn't able to find it. Google couldn't help me.
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domenukk said:
How would you boot android from nand if you can't access the file system of the SD card?
Its an unknown format and magldr surely won't be able to boot anything from it.
Maybe it works the other way round, though?
Or you could use your phone7 without sd card...
hey that may even work.
Limited storage for phone7 - who cares?
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Half of the sdcard is formatted in FAT32. The other in WP7 system file.
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http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
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Here's that thread translated:
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I have already declared in the title dual boot, or have friends do not understand the altar. After the following modifications, select the boot wph start guide wp7, select the boot ad sd sd boot on Android , Android WP7 and dual-boot, the boot options can, without disturbing each other. Start wp7 will not interfere with sd card, wp7 sd card did not even know exist, the question is wp7 little space available, but at least can be used.
Expect experts to address the first time in wp7 can choose to start the occupation of the sd card space, do not fully occupied enough.
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Thank DFT ! Because SD Android running well, I have not brush Nand Android, waiting for the arrival of WP7.
Today, DFT has released long-awaited HD2 users WP7, I finally started to brush. Brush some of the altar before the access to the Friends of the experience, that really exclusive WP7 SD card, which can later how to run Android.
I have access to the information carefully and found that the SD card as WP7 only system expansion space, the first start of the SD card partition to use. Therefore, I decided to removed the SD card so reserved for Android use.
PC: Windows 7
HD2: SHPL 2.08
SD: Sandisk 8G c4 (from the phone in the show)
The following is the process of Brush:
1. Three-color screen brush Magldr 112 (all normal, NES Set )
2.Magldr start to select the USB Flasher, PC-side DWI (all normal)
3. Phone reboots directly into the WP7, simple to use, after all the normal (free space 98M)
4. Handset off
5. Insert SD card
6. boot holding down the hold button, enter the Magldr menu
7. Set always shows the menu (to decide, because I want to dual-boot often, so set the boot menu)
8. Set the boot path SD card Android
9. Guide the SD Android, the show finished HTC interface (kernel, Init after) boot into Andoird animation between the phone restart
Episode: I stupid out, SD card, there are a lot of information not backed up, hands and no card reader, can not enter the Andoird, the backup can not, WP7, when not installed into the SD card, do not expect him to. Fortunately, there are menu items that Magldr USB storage (my first use of Magldr), select this option, the memory card sorting.Remove the SD card all the Android-generated directory (the directory is generated Android, do not also delete a Android), re-boot, the first screen to enter Andoird die.
10. Online access to information, Magldr guide SD card Android, need to modify inti.rc.
11. Will system.img (I use the DHD Android) copied to the Linux modified.
In the service ril-daemon / system / bin / rild-l / system / lib / libhtc_ril_wrapper.so append --d / dev/smd0 nand parameters, to support
Nand boot.
12. Returns Android phone, after a successful boot.
Nagging: WP7 egg really hurt, WIFI without any settings, I have been using a static IP, can not be set.
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He's dual booting, but none of the SD card space is for WP7. It only has around 100megs left. WP7 automatically RAID0's the whole card with internal memory for space. That's why removing the card screws up WP7 and a hard reset has to be done. I think what would be ideal is if the card could be split into 8gb for WP7 and 8GB for Android, but part of the problem is you can't call HARET.exe or CLRCAD.exe because there is no OS to understand those executables.
Hi Guys . Sorry if this has been asked before but i cant find it in the search. I am already using a Nand Rom on my EU HD2 . I would like to know if its possible to still have a second android rom being able to boot from the SD card ? Lets say like a Ram rom booting up from the file explorer like haret was for winmo . Thus shutting the Nand rom down and then booting from the SD.
I know something similer has been done with WM7 but i dont want to take the plunge with WM7 yet as im happy with android. Has thi sbeen done or is it possible ??
Thanks in advance.
Yes you can, you can boot NAND Android, and still use SD Android.
Hold the Power button when you start your phone, to get into MAGLDR menu.
In the Service Menu, set the boot directory to your SD's Android folder, where the zImage and initrc.gz files are.
Usually, /sdcard/android directory, but depends on build.
Then go back and select Boot SD Android, and woohoo, good to go.
Now, when you select Boot NAND AD, you boot from NAND, when you select SD AD, then you boot from SD.
Thanks life u are a star !!!
What build is recomended for this Sd or ram ?? also im getting a error message in boot up from sd it says no newinitrd and continues to reboot . Help appreciated.
Ive got another question. It is possible, or will be possible in the future, to boot Winmo from sd?
I have an app that is dedicated for Winmo only, it is a navigation app.
I would like to have Android in nand, which is much more comfortable than booting it from SD.
Is there, maybe, another way to achieve it?
Well, technically, everything is possible. Booting WP7, booting WM6.5, from SD, etc...
But... The question is, will anyone even bother?
dappa786 said:
What build is recomended for this Sd or ram ?? also im getting a error message in boot up from sd it says no newinitrd and continues to reboot . Help appreciated.
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Well, it shouldn't be looking for newinitrd.gz but initrd.gz, if that is what it is looking for, and your directory only has initrd.gz, try renaming it and see what happens. I will go try when I have free time, I probably will be busy for the next couple of days, so I will see!
kesberg said:
Ive got another question. It is possible, or will be possible in the future, to boot Winmo from sd?
I have an app that is dedicated for Winmo only, it is a navigation app.
I would like to have Android in nand, which is much more comfortable than booting it from SD.
Is there, maybe, another way to achieve it?
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Actually cotulla posted in the magldr thread that he is going to try to get a winmo build working that can boot from sd. I don't know when he plans to have it finished, or if it will even work out... but he's working on it. I also hope it happens, as I still like using winmo for certain apps... like fpsece works a lot better than psx4droid for playing playstation games.
Oh, thats good to hear.
Cheers
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LiFE1688 said:
Well, technically, everything is possible. Booting WP7, booting WM6.5, from SD, etc...
But... The question is, will anyone even bother?
Well, it shouldn't be looking for newinitrd.gz but initrd.gz, if that is what it is looking for, and your directory only has initrd.gz, try renaming it and see what happens. I will go try when I have free time, I probably will be busy for the next couple of days, so I will see!
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Hi life ive tried to rename no progrees there. I think a tutorial on this would be good on this matter.
Thanks Dappa
when i try to change the boot directory its nothing but symbols. i tried rebooting back into magldr but still the same
any help?
LiFE1688 said:
Well, technically, everything is possible. Booting WP7, booting WM6.5, from SD, etc...
But... The question is, will anyone even bother?
Well, it shouldn't be looking for newinitrd.gz but initrd.gz, if that is what it is looking for, and your directory only has initrd.gz, try renaming it and see what happens. I will go try when I have free time, I probably will be busy for the next couple of days, so I will see!
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Look like you don't know what you talking about...
Hi All. If anyone is working on a CWM version of the WinMo 6.5?
There may, in the distant future, be a version of Windows Mobile 6.5 that loads from the sd card via MAGLDR. But never from Clockwork Recovery. CWM is only for Android, as it is actually a very lite little Linux distro built only for specific purposes involving the Android OS.
For now, if you want to dual-boot WM and Android, you have to flash a WinMo rom to nand and run an Android build from your sd card.
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Of course, my mistake. The problem is that WinMo is necessary to me only occasionally (navigation). Re-install every time is a bad solution, but a quick backup/restore NAND flash using CWM would be ideal choice.
Sorry for my english.
sebar25 said:
Of course, my mistake. The problem is that WinMo is necessary to me only occasionally (navigation). Re-install every time is a bad solution, but a quick backup/restore NAND flash using CWM would be ideal choice.
Sorry for my english.
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Why don't you just use a SD card build to run Android then? That way you still havecWindows Mobile in the NAND memory and Android on SD card. Most SD card builds run very smooth just some have a few more quirks than others and the take longer to boot than NAND Android ROMs.
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Of course, my mistake. The problem is that WinMo is necessary to me only occasionally (navigation). Re-install every time is a bad solution, but a quick backup/restore NAND flash using CWM would be ideal choice.
Sorry for my english.
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Android has also alot of gps software witch work fine, i use igo8 it does the job flawlessly. granted lock times are a bit higher but you should check out instantanous gps fixation thread witch helps alot