All,
I am from India and seriously considering buying KF.
Only issue is that I am doubtful as to how much of the device's capability would I be able to utilize being outside US.
Also, Would I be able to purchase apps through KF?
What about books and magazines?
Would love to hear from people outside US who have bought KF.
Thanks!
You should adjust your title to ask about whether you should buy it as you live outside the US.
Your thread is right next to another thread with the EXACT same title and about something completely different.
Thanks a lot for the suggestion. Edited the title. Hoping to get a better response this time
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Using a Kindle outside of the US is not a problem if you are happy to do a little work.
It is possible to buy apps and watch moves via Amazon prime using a vpn.
It is also relatively easy to side load apps from other sources by literally searching for the apk file and then download and install them directly to the Kindle.
Again it is not too difficult to root the device and install a different launcher and the full Android Market, you will lose the ability to stream from Amazon prime but to be honest you won’t be losing much.
Ive gone through all the above and am now running the CM7 Rom which again completely changes the device to a fully unlocked working Android tablet which is not pad for 200 dollars.
The only downside I have found is nothing to do with geological location, for me a tablet this size is just too small.
duquesa said:
Using a Kindle outside of the US is not a problem if you are happy to do a little work.
It is possible to buy apps and watch moves via Amazon prime using a vpn.
It is also relatively easy to side load apps from other sources by literally searching for the apk file and then download and install them directly to the Kindle.
Again it is not too difficult to root the device and install a different launcher and the full Android Market, you will lose the ability to stream from Amazon prime but to be honest you won’t be losing much.
Ive gone through all the above and am now running the CM7 Rom which again completely changes the device to a fully unlocked working Android tablet which is not pad for 200 dollars.
The only downside I have found is nothing to do with geological location, for me a tablet this size is just too small.
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What he said. It's still a great device to use outside the U.S. If you don't plan on messing with it (rooting, installing another launcher or CM7/9) and want to keep it on stock like its meant to be used, then don't buy it.
i'm using kindle fire on europe (portugal), and with the stock rom.
I can watch movies on prime, listen to music, buy books, install apps (free on amazon store and sideloaded the other ones).
So i will keep stock room, cause i can do everything.
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i'm using kindle fire on europe (portugal), and with the stock rom.
I can watch movies on prime, listen to music, buy books, install apps (free on amazon store and sideloaded the other ones).
So i will keep stock room, cause i can do everything.
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Same here from germany, it works fine!
well am also in India and just ordered mine. will get it in 10 days. I already have amazon account with fake US address and some 200 apps collected by me. Also I plan to root it and use some other launcher and maybe install cm7 too. I have no intention of watching videos on Amazon prime and only want to use to read a few ebooks, play games and movie which I can load on the storage. At the price and for the quality it serves this purpose great in my opinion. Depending on your needs this might vary.
you can do that with the stock room.
i mean, install apps (the free ones at amazon app store) or install from unknown sources. or sideload them.
kindle fire outside us
I am living in germany. Yes, small money for a great tablet once its rooted and you side loaded whatever you are interested it. Without routing it, its a crippled and restricted amazon content using device only.
But rooting it its really easy, if you are able to read and understand a little bit.
I now can watch movies, listen music, read colored ebooks or any pdf file and play games like nova2 or other stuff. the tablet runs smooth and imho its the best bang for the buck available on the market.
I am not interested in amazon content a lot, but i can buy books or videos there if i really want to or use the amazon services while being temporarily "unrooted".
I didnt made it possible to view streamed videos and using the cloud, but to be honest, i dont like the idea to put personal data on a public server or show people what i like to read and view, i am happy to be private. I am using my pc as a streaming server or just download some videos into the storage every now and then. Its good enough for 5-6 videos plus a ****load of books and music.
But look around.. there is so much other content availabe on the internet, you will not get bored in 10 years, so who really needs amazon?
I really prefer to sideload anything via wifi or usb cable which works great and isnt that difficult. I have a lot of fun and for sure I saved a lot of money not buying an expensive high end tablet.
The kindle fire just dont have gps, vibrator, camera, microfon and bluetooth. If you really want that dont buy the kindle fire.
I personally have a small mobile phone just for that so i dont need to use a tablet as a phone and i also have a highend digital camera so wtf why i need a camera on my tablet ? (google for wifi tethering, works great). They are not good anyway even on the most expensive tablets on the market compared to a real one.
But i am pretty sure someone will find a solution for that somehow.
I have it and I love it. I live in Bosnia and have no problems with it. Great little thing for a good price.
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I am living in germany. Yes, small money for a great tablet once its rooted and you side loaded whatever you are interested it. Without routing it, its a crippled and restricted amazon content using device only.
But rooting it its really easy, if you are able to read and understand a little bit.
I now can watch movies, listen music, read colored ebooks or any pdf file and play games like nova2 or other stuff. the tablet runs smooth and imho its the best bang for the buck available on the market.
I am not interested in amazon content a lot, but i can buy books or videos there if i really want to or use the amazon services while being temporarily "unrooted".
I didnt made it possible to view streamed videos and using the cloud, but to be honest, i dont like the idea to put personal data on a public server or show people what i like to read and view, i am happy to be private. I am using my pc as a streaming server or just download some videos into the storage every now and then. Its good enough for 5-6 videos plus a ****load of books and music.
But look around.. there is so much other content availabe on the internet, you will not get bored in 10 years, so who really needs amazon?
I really prefer to sideload anything via wifi or usb cable which works great and isnt that difficult. I have a lot of fun and for sure I saved a lot of money not buying an expensive high end tablet.
The kindle fire just dont have gps, vibrator, camera, microfon and bluetooth. If you really want that dont buy the kindle fire.
I personally have a small mobile phone just for that so i dont need to use a tablet as a phone and i also have a highend digital camera so wtf why i need a camera on my tablet ? (google for wifi tethering, works great). They are not good anyway even on the most expensive tablets on the market compared to a real one.
But i am pretty sure someone will find a solution for that somehow.
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But it isnt possible sideload without root?
I cant still play all the movies, music, etc i want with a unrooted kindle fire. And i really enjoy the curated amazon app store. If i need any other app i just download it on fire and install. or sideload.
So if i just want to play movies, listen music, read books watch docs, why i need to root my kindle?
@therethere. You do not need root to sideload. I upload my apks to dropbox and then download to Kindle. The only reason I might decide to root is to change lockscreen and perhaps use a different launcher.
I'd really love a thread in this forum with everything you need to know to run your Kindle Fire outside US without rooting
LilaLurch said:
Same here from germany, it works fine!
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How that? I can't get it to work. Is there a chance to do it without rooting?
I'd prefer to sideload what I need, but it doesn't work.
Any tips?
Thanx in Advnce..
Dirk
dmenker said:
How that? I can't get it to work. Is there a chance to do it without rooting?
I'd prefer to sideload what I need, but it doesn't work.
Any tips?
Thanx in Advnce..
Dirk
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If you cant follow the tipps here in this forum, try with watching this videos from here: http://www.kindlefirewire.com/2011/11/16/how-to-root-kindle-fire-video-tutorial/
Not necessary to root.
Use a usb cable to sideload android apps. Most apps work.
Usa account and credit card(sample) for free Amazon apps.
Vpn for streaming.
Go launcher makes Fire a "real"Android.
I couldn't be happier with mine. In barely a month since release, it's now overclockable, CM7 running near perfectly, and a touch recovery coming tonight.
Since I got mine at release, my grandparents are buying three as gifts, my Dad might get one and I'm getting one for my Mom for Christmas.
Kindle Fire is easily one of the best value tablets out there. It's freakin awesome.
it shouldn't matter if your in India or anywhere. get one.
Chiwaz said:
I'd really love a thread in this forum with everything you need to know to run your Kindle Fire outside US without rooting
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There aren't really a lot of steps:
-Just enable install from unknown sources in the Kindle settings
-Install a file manager from the browser: search for and download the .apk of any known android file manager
-Copy the desired apps via USB
-Install via file manager
What you can do with the Kindle outside the USA without rooting is:
-Browse the web
-Buy and read Kindle books
-Copy via USB and read documents (.DOC and PDF)
-Everything else that allows the apps installed by yourself
I just love my kindle(/s), even I'm not able to use unblock-us properly to see Prime videos.
I don't care about gps, camera or 3g (even with it, I'd never make another contract, tethering is enough for me). All things I already have on the phone.
I just miss bluetooth, because I'd like to use a keyboard with this device and that's the only way to plug one, so far.
- Reading pdf (for simple books I usually use the other kindle);
- Newspapers;
- RSS, web browsing;
- Listen some music, radio or watching some TVs when I'm cooking, shaving or taking a shower;
- And yes, play some games sometimes (Tetris is freaking me out );
All stuff I was already able to do with the phone, but way more enjoyable on a tablet, without concern about battery life, on a big and beautiful screen, and better speakers.
And finally, I love the fact I don't need to carry it in a bag or a nerdy cover. Just my freaking pocket.
I have installed CM7 and it is working great, however the Amazon App Store no longer recognizes that it is an Amazon Fire. I would like to download the Kindle version of a few games, is there a way to trick the app store to think it is the Fire again? I assume CM7 just thinks it is a generic gingerbread phone.
Thanks for any help.
You should wait for ICS. I say that only because the main dev focus right now is getting ICS (CM9) working correctly. After this is done there would be ways in tricking the App store into thinking it's a specific device. Though that would most likely break some of the apps from being downloaded from the Android App store. Guess it's a bit of Catch 22.
Once we have a fully working version on ICS, I plan on working to make this happen. However I just don't have the time right now with school and family to work on the OS development. Shame as I think it would be fun.
~enjoy for now.
MBought the kf for my wife today and I took one look at the launcher and was confused to put it politely. I'm an owner of a transformer prime and galaxy nexus and I love ice. I'm wondering if there is a post you guys could point me to or tell me what the pros and cons will be of rooting this device and running a custom rom? More specifically, there are certain books, NY wife tells me, that say ''kindle fire edition'' or something like that. Would you lose the ability to get those books after a root?
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MBought the kf for my wife today and I took one look at the launcher and was confused to put it politely. I'm an owner of a transformer prime and galaxy nexus and I love ice. I'm wondering if there is a post you guys could point me to or tell me what the pros and cons will be of rooting this device and running a custom rom? More specifically, there are certain books, NY wife tells me, that say ''kindle fire edition'' or something like that. Would you lose the ability to get those books after a root?
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Just some of my opinion :
After rooting the device (not installing a custom rom, only root, you will still be using the Amazon version of Android), you can install full Android Market, alternate launcher(can be switched between Amazon Launcher and alternate launcher you installed.) So in this case you can still enjoy services / app that amazon provides for kindle fire.
If you install a custom rom (CM7[GingerBread] or CM9 [Ice Cream Sandwich], you may gain some more performance but some Amazon services may not work perfectly.
I installed CM7 before and now on CM9, CM7 has less bug and more functional than CM9 I think. Right now CM9 for Fire is still under development and not a stable version for everyone to use. It cannot play HD Youtube and the Hardware Acceleration is not functioning, it also has SOD(Sleep of death) problem that may halt the device and require a reboot.
For more information on custom ROM, you can visit this for the post for CM7 and CM9:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1309
You shouldn't lose the books if you install CM7. Just download the Kindle App and it's pretty much the same thing as using a normal kindle. All of my books that I purchased for my regular kindle transferred over to the Kindle App. Also all the books I downloaded from torrents also showed up in my kindle library when I installed them in the Kindle folder on my KF.
You can install go launcher ex without root and make it look more androidish. That may help
Rooting will disable your KF's ability to stream Amazon video content. To get around this, you can use OTA rootkeeper to unroot or root your KF with one click (though it won't do the initial root). I suspect that installing CM will permanently disable this capability. So, if Amazon video streaming is important, be careful about switching ROMs.
Hello all,
Long time member of XDA, and love of android devices.
I just got a KF and am pretty excited to see what this thing can do.
I am interested in rooting it, mainly for all my android games that I have but dont want to lose any features.
So far this sounds like CM7 is the way to go due to no HD on CM9?
However by rooting I lose the Amazon interface completely right? This I would maybe like due to the e-books I have as well.
Any suggestions on best ROM, kernels?
Recommended Recoverys/root methods?
Thanks!
+1 on best rooting method. I get mine Wed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23537660&postcount=1011
Rooting Basics
ssmercurys said:
Hello all,
Long time member of XDA, and love of android devices.
I just got a KF and am pretty excited to see what this thing can do.
I am interested in rooting it, mainly for all my android games that I have but dont want to lose any features.
So far this sounds like CM7 is the way to go due to no HD on CM9?
However by rooting I lose the Amazon interface completely right? This I would maybe like due to the e-books I have as well.
Any suggestions on best ROM, kernels?
Recommended Recoverys/root methods?
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Thanks!
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Sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it too!
Well you can, sort of.
Rooting the Fire by itself, doesn't remove the kindle interface, although it does affect the ability to buy or watch a movie from Amazon unless you temporarily unroot the device, which is easy to do with an unroot app. What rooting does is give you control over the Fire so you can download from other markets other than Amazon and install other Android roms.
Even using the stock Kindle you can read other books on it. I use a program on my win PC,Calibre, to download and convert other books onto the kindle, works great.
But, not as much fun as installing and playing around with other roms. Using a good recovery program like TWRP, will let you backup and restore both the stock Kindle any any of the other Android versions you install. The KFU program link in post #3 in this thread is a good start to get your device rooted, new boot program, and recovery program. I did mine without it, step by step, but it sounds pretty easy and reliable. I would suggest reading up on it first though.
I'm using the rooted stock kindle, Cyanogenmod 7, and the Energy version of ICS. It has a few bugs, no video hardware assist but other than that runs well. The key is being able to backup and restore, so if you don't like one version, you just go back to another.
my expiriences
Personally ive installed a couple Roms cm7 being my favorite but I reverted back to the of stock Rom and just use go launcher ex. Rooting is worth it if you don't have amazon prime but if you do the amazon instant video is a loss but with the android market installed then you can still buy movies with that. Twrp is also needed but my favorite is simple changing the annoying rotating wallpaper.
I'm new to the Kindle Fire party as well... I managed to use the Kindle Fire Utility to perm root, install TWRP, and then FireFireFire. Following that, I installed the CM7 rom by Whistlestop and it seems to be running fine so far.
My only question is this:
Since I just got my Kindle Fire, I have Amazon Prime and want to use instant video. Is there any easy way to get instant video running on the CM7 Kindle Fire? I understand the need and method to hide root or temporarily unroot, but I've seen posts saying install some amazon account stuff, then the app.
Are there any simple steps to take in order to do this properly and watch my amazon prime instant videos on cm7?
( example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347745 )
I have joined the ranks of the kindle fire with the 139 deal. I was about to drop on a ipad2 3g referb but jumped on the KF. I'm looking to root and install the go lanucher Ex and Play store.
My questions
1. How is the stock KF on battery life compaired to the CM7 rom?
2. I love how my Galaxy S2 functions and way to recreate that on the KF?
Hello Guys,
I am new here and I just got an old Kindle Fire HD 10 Gift from a friend who said he doesn’t need it anymore.
So I had set it up, put my account to it and found….. It is sooo bloated with all that amazon stuff… It’s ridiculous…. I would say that I do not need like 80% of that stuff and totally miss like google mail, proper YouTube app and a lot more I have not found until now.
So I was looking now for like 3 days, whenever I had the time to search for it, if there is a custom Rom for the Kindle, or maybe root to get Google on the Kindle or how it is to be done to get apps maybe from my phone to the kindle.
Amazon made it really hard for users who are not sucked into the amazon universe to actually enjoy the Kindle, don’t they?
I have a bunch of paid apps in Google, they seem to be all useless now… what really kind of bugs me, because I had hoped to use the kindle as a comic book reader, where I use Comicat on android… no idea if kindle can even open them, but I’ll have to try.
So I would like to ask, are there some ways to root an Kindle Fire HD 10 with Fire OS 5.6.1.0 ? If so, how to do that and are there Custom Roms that would give a more basic Android feel?
I only found mostly some tutorials for 7” and 8”, but rarely for the 10” Tablet and nearly always for other Fire OSes.
So every help would be REALLY appreciated!
Follow this tutorial to get root https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443
To make it more stock like after you have rooted you can remove apps using root
You can also install google play store + apps from it by following this https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603
You can also replace the default launcher with another like Nova but at the moment it uses a hack to get around a limitation even on root (Launcher Hijack)
You can also install xposed and there is modules on that which should give back some of your missing features https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/hd-10-2017-xposed-t3722252
At the moment there is no custom rom but some are in development.
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Follow this tutorial
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Awesome, thank you very much, I will check everything and hope to have the Kindle a bit more.... Userfriedly, well, MEfriendly.
It would be indeed really cool if there is at least a bit I can do. Otherwise the Kindle would become more like an Videoplayer for my Kids than anything else... this would be a bit o a waste, as the device itself seems pretty nice.
Edit: The first and third Tutorial are for the 7th Gen HD8/10 Tablets, I have the 5th Gen. Wont there be a problem??
Fathor said:
Awesome, thank you very much, I will check everything and hope to have the Kindle a bit more.... Userfriedly, well, MEfriendly.
It would be indeed really cool if there is at least a bit I can do. Otherwise the Kindle would become more like an Videoplayer for my Kids than anything else... this would be a bit o a waste, as the device itself seems pretty nice.
Edit: The first and third Tutorial are for the 7th Gen HD8/10 Tablets, I have the 5th Gen. Wont there be a problem??
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Sorry for a late reply.
I'm not sure whether it works or not on older tablets, but there won't be a problem. Try it, I'm 99% sure that your tablet will be perfectly okay even it failed, because I tried that and failed, but I'm sending this from my tablet.
Good Luck! :good: