Hi, I read the news about HTC oficially adding MT4G to their online bootloader unlock tool.
I want to ask what is benefit for MT4G ? is it make the root process easier on official GB ROM? or what...? (confused >_<)
Here is a discussion about it...am sure htc will be able to unlock it easy, but sound like its not worth it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499846
pegaxes said:
Hi, I read the news about HTC oficially adding MT4G to their online bootloader unlock tool.
I want to ask what is benefit for MT4G ? is it make the root process easier on official GB ROM? or what...? (confused >_<)
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There really is no benefit. You can't revert back to S-On if you root your phone using that method, so if your device somehow gets bricked, you have no way of reverting back.
I would still HIGHLY recommend the old ways... The right ways.
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saranhai said:
There really is no benefit. You can't revert back to S-On if you root your phone using that method, so if your device somehow gets bricked, you have no way of reverting back.
I would still HIGHLY recommend the old ways... The right ways.
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Erm...yes you can, its actually quite a bit simpler than our method. The command is just
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fastboot OEM lock bootloader
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Nicgraner said:
Erm...yes you can, its actually quite a bit simpler than our method. The command is just
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fastboot OEM lock bootloader
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check out this post
NOTE: THERE IS NO GOING BACK AND YOUR BOOTLOADER WILL SAY RE-LOCKED IF YOU CHOOSE TO RELOCK. THIS DOES VOID YOUR WARRENTY.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20780879&postcount=1
btw, when you use the HTCDev method to unlock, it Stays S-On. the top of the bootloader will say "Unlocked", therefore making the device permanently unlocked. THIS PROCESS CANNOT BE REVERTED. ONCE YOU UNLOCK THE HTCDEV WAY, YOUR WARRANTY IS DONE.
so no, i don't think "fastboot oem lock" will completely do it
bootloader will show "Relocked" instead.
saranhai said:
check out this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20780879&postcount=1
btw, when you use the HTCDev method to unlock, it Stays S-On. the top of the bootloader will say "Unlocked", therefore making the device permanently unlocked. THIS PROCESS CANNOT BE REVERTED. ONCE YOU UNLOCK THE HTCDEV WAY, YOUR WARRANTY IS DONE.
so no, i don't think "fastboot oem lock" will completely do it
bootloader will show "Relocked" instead.
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I haven't personally tried it, just what the site said. Thanks for the info though
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Nicgraner said:
I haven't personally tried it, just what the site said. Thanks for the info though
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haha actually i haven't tried this either
almost did it on my Wildfire, but then backed down. i kinda want to try this though.. just not on my device LOL
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haha actually i haven't tried this either
almost did it on my Wildfire, but then backed down. i kinda want to try this though.. just not on my device LOL
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Again on the EVO3D it makes fast flashing impossible.
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There is a way back
There is a way back, I have a Glacier, made the mistake of taking the plunge, but it is a SERIOUS PAIN to get back.
Took me all weekend to find a way to reflash the engineering hboot, but finally got it.
No locked or Unlocked notice at all.
The question is - if you're able to flash kernels from recovery with Eng HBOOT, or if it skips them just as HTC-Dev-unlocked Ship HBOOTs would.
Strange question, here.
With the Glacier when you dev unlock you have to flash hboot # 89.0001 into the phone to unlock. Since I was able to reflash the 85.xxxxx eng hboot back in could that mean that others would be able to revert to an original? Meaning flash in the hboot for their phone that has never been unlocked, and regain s-off?
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i currently have s-off and I am in 2.3.4.
i'm not rooted anymore but I want S-ON so i can sell or return this phone please help me out thanks?
DO i have to root the phone again?
killer174 said:
i currently have s-off and I am in 2.3.4.
i'm not rooted anymore but I want S-ON so i can sell or return this phone please help me out thanks?
DO i have to root the phone again?
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You can easily sell the phone with S-OFF. It can actually increase the value to so wanna be tech nerd who's too afraid to turn S-OFF himself.
Seriously go pick any phone and look them up on eBay. The rooted ones usually sell for more than the unrooted ones.
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You can easily sell the phone with S-OFF. It can actually increase the value to so wanna be tech nerd who's too afraid to turn S-OFF himself.
Seriously go pick any phone and look them up on eBay. The rooted ones usually sell for more than the unrooted ones.
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yea but my phone is not rooted is that okay?
it is in 2.3.4 and S-OFF
and yea Im going to sell it on eBay thanks
killer174 said:
yea but my phone is not rooted is that okay?
it is in 2.3.4 and S-OFF
and yea Im going to sell it on eBay thanks
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Download visionary r14 make sure delevopement is check in applications then click attempt permroot root. reboot then open terminal emulator type su if u get a # sign u have full root
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Tez MyTouch said:
Download visionary r14 make sure delevopement is check in applications then click attempt permroot root. reboot then open terminal emulator type su if u get a # sign u have full root
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i don't think visionary works with gingerbread 2.3.4? correct me if i'm wrong...
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i don't think visionary works with gingerbread 2.3.4? correct me if i'm wrong...
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oh total forgot he had gb. I seen s = off
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killer174 said:
yea but my phone is not rooted is that okay?
it is in 2.3.4 and S-OFF
and yea Im going to sell it on eBay thanks
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How much if you dont mind me asking.. i wanted another mt4g, but now i'm looking to maybe get samsung galaxy s2 or nexus prime.. still researching..
jr_718 said:
How much if you dont mind me asking.. i wanted another mt4g, but now i'm looking to maybe get samsung galaxy s2 or nexus prime.. still researching..
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well I don't know....
how much do you want for it?
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well I don't know....
how much do you want for it?
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Honestly I don't know.. but I don't want to discourage your intended price. So if you post it at ebay.. post the link Here, otherwise, am still researching on the galaxy s2 or nexus prime...
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killer174 said:
yea but my phone is not rooted is that okay?
it is in 2.3.4 and S-OFF
and yea Im going to sell it on eBay thanks
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Root it real quick!
All you need is to put the 2.2 PD15IMG.zip on your SD card and reboot into bootloader and you'll have a 2.2 phone pretty quick. Then you can run Visionary and you'll be set. Should take a total of 15 minutes, including the time to download 2.2 and Visionary.
Then you'll have a fully rooted S-Off phone to sell on eBay. Be sure to put that in big letters in the auction description.
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Root it real quick!
All you need is to put the 2.2 PD15IMG.zip on your SD card and reboot into bootloader and you'll have a 2.2 phone pretty quick. Then you can run Visionary and you'll be set. Should take a total of 15 minutes, including the time to download 2.2 and Visionary.
Then you'll have a fully rooted S-Off phone to sell on eBay. Be sure to put that in big letters in the auction description.
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That won't work... You can't downgrade to 2.2.1 through the PD15IMG file
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This is the thread you need if you have S-OFF already and want to root it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200147
The first PD15IMG.zip in that thread gives you Clockwork Recovery, and then you can boot into that to apply the Superuser zip:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682828
Also if you have S-Off already, you can downgrade to 2.2.1 using the appropriate RUU or PD15IMG.zip, and it won't care about version number.
And the instructions for reverting to S-ON from Gfree are here partway down in the post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
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That won't work... You can't downgrade to 2.2.1 through the PD15IMG file
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You can if you have the downgraded bootloader can't you? And if he's got S OFF I assumed the bootloader was already downgraded.
In any case, it's super easy to downgrade it and fully root it no matter what the steps are. And if it's rooted it's worth more on eBay
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You can if you have the downgraded bootloader can't you? And if he's got S OFF I assumed the bootloader was already downgraded.
In any case, it's super easy to downgrade it and fully root it no matter what the steps are. And if it's rooted it's worth more on eBay
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so can I downgrade to 2.2.1 even if I have 2.3.4 with S-OFF?
cmstlist said:
This is the thread you need if you have S-OFF already and want to root it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200147
The first PD15IMG.zip in that thread gives you Clockwork Recovery, and then you can boot into that to apply the Superuser zip:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682828
Also if you have S-Off already, you can downgrade to 2.2.1 using the appropriate RUU or PD15IMG.zip, and it won't care about version number.
And the instructions for reverting to S-ON from Gfree are here partway down in the post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
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I'm going to try to downgrade to 2.2.1 since i have s-off using the pdm15 file.
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That won't work... You can't downgrade to 2.2.1 through the PD15IMG file
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but I have S-OFF can I still downgrade?
killer174 said:
but I have S-OFF can I still downgrade?
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What's your bootloader version?
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What's your bootloader version?
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0.85.2007 that is my bootloader
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0.85.2007 that is my bootloader
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does it say eng bootloader or something like that?
cause that sounds like the engineering bootloader if i'm not wrong. no wonder you got s-off...
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does it say eng bootloader or something like that?
cause that sounds like the engineering bootloader if i'm not wrong. no wonder you got s-off...
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oh wait it says HBOOT-0.89.0005
I want to return my phone to original because the speaker is dead. I am currently 2.3.4 rooted S-off with a MIUI rom. I was going to download the unrooted rom but it was on megaupload. Where can I find it now? Please excuse me if I wrote something noobish.
I found a rooted 2.3.4 stock gingerbread, but now the reverse gfree method is not working. It always freezes at the dd if=/your part7number.bin part. Does anyone know the problem. Thank you.
Did you download a file called PD15IMG. IT its the stock rom. If you have the file just drag it from your comp to your sd card. Restart the phone holding the volume button down and the power. Hboot screen should come up, press volume up and it will automatically install the stock rom, press volume up when it asks if you want to update. If you dont have the file private message me and I will send it to you via email bro
Core droid htc glacier
Yeah. I got the pd15img, and now I am stock 2.3.4 unrooted. The problem I still have s-on. Do you think HTC will care?
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Yeah. I got the pd15img, and now I am stock 2.3.4 unrooted. The problem I still have s-on. Do you think HTC will care?
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If you have s-on then you are good. They shouldn't even know it was rooted.
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My B. I meant s-off. I tried to do the method to revert in the true perma root post, but it does not let me dd if= the part7 backup. My phone just freezes and reboots. Will they care if I have s-off?
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My B. I meant s-off. I tried to do the method to revert in the true perma root post, but it does not let me dd if= the part7 backup. My phone just freezes and reboots. Will they care if I have s-off?
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I doubt they would even care. Better to be safe than sorry though.
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I am trying to be safe, but the method on the perma root post does not work. Is there another way?
Wow. Speaker randomly fixed itself. Now to reroot. Is it any different since I already have S-off but not root.
McSurge45 said:
Wow. Speaker randomly fixed itself. Now to reroot. Is it any different since I already have S-off but not root.
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Just run through gfree method, it's easier and less nerve wracking the second time around.
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eqjunkie829 said:
If you have s-on then you are good. They shouldn't even know it was rooted.
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Core droid htc glacier
Phone has S-ON and 2.18.001. I just need the wifi tether app, so what exact steps should I take to get me only that app? Thanks.
You need root, please search.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473373
Thanks. The problem I was having was did I only need S-Off or root or both. Also I didn't know about if I needed the watermark thing. So I needed info to allow me to get that wifi app and not any extra steps. Let me see what I can do.
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Thanks. The problem I was having was did I only need S-Off or root or both. Also I didn't know about if I needed the watermark thing. So I needed info to allow me to get that wifi app and not any extra steps. Let me see what I can do.
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The easiest way to get Hotspot working is to actually pay for it . . . that being said:
You just need to unlock the bootloader using the HTCDev.com method, and install a custom recovery. You can then flash superuser, which will provide root access on your current ROM.
With the unlocked bootloader, you don't need to be S-OFF to get root.
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With the unlocked bootloader, you don't need to be S-OFF to get root.
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OK captain, I gotta ask. If you unlock bootloader, doesn't that create S-off state? I'm kinda confused by that bit of quote. I know you know more about this than probably anybody, so I'm just curious.
(I haven't messed with any of the new stuff, I still have .76 eng bootloader from 17mo ago, ...I'm only asking out of curiosity and trying to keep up)
Thanks
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After a few hours and help from here it is done. Thank you all.
scottspa74 said:
OK captain, I gotta ask. If you unlock bootloader, doesn't that create S-off state? I'm kinda confused by that bit of quote. I know you know more about this than probably anybody, so I'm just curious.
(I haven't messed with any of the new stuff, I still have .76 eng bootloader from 17mo ago, ...I'm only asking out of curiosity and trying to keep up)
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Nope. Not with the HTCDev.com unlocking process. It'll show "UNLOCKED" at the top of HBOOT, but it will also still say "S-ON". And you can still have a custom recovery, and flash ROMs.
Dears:
Following is my steps.
1. go to htcdev.com, get and flash RUU_Glacier_hboot_0.89.0007_signed.exe.
2. go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498003 and download hasoon2000 's Vivid All-In-One Kit V2.1.
A. extract Vivid All-In-One Kit V2.1 and execute Vivid 2.1.exe in it.
B. because I've installed HTC driver and registered in HTCDEV, I started from step 3 "Get Token ID" to step 5 "Unlock Bootloader".
C. download http://download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.1.0-glacier.img and put it in Vivid_All-In-One_Kit_v2.0\Data\Recovery directory.
D. rename recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.1.0-glacier.img to recovery-cwm-vivid-5.5.0.4B2.img
E. back to hasoon2000 's Vivid All-In-One Kit V2.1. Execute Vivid 2.1.exe again then choose "CWM 5.5.0.4(GB)" and press "flash recovery"
F. boot the phone into recovery, go to "-mounts and storage", choose "- mount /data", "-mount /sdcard", "- mount /system".
G. back to Vivid 2.1.exe, in "Extra" section, choose "Perm Root(GB/ICS)", that's all.
So this is how to root 2.3.4? If so then awesome!
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I just got my replacement again(3rd time in 3 months) I wonder if I should try this....?
Edit: upon further thinking.... That's a lot of steps for an "accident"....?
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Very curious on that
DylanTheVillian said:
I just got my replacement again(3rd time in 3 months) I wonder if I should try this....?
Edit: upon further thinking.... That's a lot of steps for an "accident"....?
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Yesterday, I tried to root vivid and amaze and both was succeeded.
Then I was wondering if I can use the same method to root mytouch 4g.
The downgrade steps is a little bit complicated, I'm too lazy to take a try.
That's why I use "accidentally" , and that works!
This is awesome if it's legit! The downgrade process we've been using is a big hassle IMO. Great find!
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raphael888 said:
Yesterday, I tried to root vivid and amaze and both was succeeded.
Then I was wondering if I can use the same method to root mytouch 4g.
The downgrade steps is a little bit complicated, I'm too lazy to take a try.
That's why I use "accidentally" , and that works!
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Downgrade process was cake! Only thing that would make it easier is full automation!
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So is your bootloader flagged unlocked?
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dave5777 said:
So is your bootloader flagged unlocked?
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YES.
raphael888 said:
YES.
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It should say s-off , not s-on... I have been telling people not to use HTC Dev to unlock your phone. I believe it makes flashing different roms a pain in the ass...
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It should say s-off , not s-on... I have been telling people not to use HTC Dev to unlock your phone. I believe it makes flashing different roms a pain in the ass...
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I am gonna move this outta dev section to the Q&A..
Also Dev method isn't that bad few extra steps to do things..
That's nothing more than HTCDEV unlocked bootloader! When you flash a Rom, prepare to flash the boot.img seperate! You should really re-lock your bootloader and root properly. That big pink "UNLOCKED" has got HTCDEV unlocked all over it...I wouldn't do this people!....
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Thank you raphael888 for your post. This indeed works. Here is how I verified this is more than just the HTCDEV bootloader unlock.
First I just did the HTCDEV bootloader steps. Then installed Root Check from the market. Root checker verified the phone was still locked although the bootloader was unlocked. The system security status was S-On
I then continued your steps to the end. I then checked the phone with the Root Check. This time it said that I have root privileges. I also loaded Root Uninstall. I was able to give SU authority to system apps. The system security status is still S-On. However it appears I have SU access.
So your steps gives the Super User ability. You may not be able to flash the ROM. However if your goal is to be able to have greater control over your phone this is much better than the HTCDEV Bootloader Unlock.
Once again Thanks for your help!!
This is EXACTLY HTCDev bootloader unlock, and you don't know what HTCDev bootloader unlock is. Or should I clarify: this is EXACTLY the rooting method that involves HTCDev bootloader unlock as one of its steps, referenced as "HTCDev unlock" just like other methods are referenced by the main step in multiple-step scheme ("gfree" or "root.sh"), which isn't a method of choice and isn't suggested to anyone but those who only want root on stock ROM, thus it didn't receive a sticky of its own.
my wifes g2 broke so i got a new one, whats the best way to root now? its up to date on updates?
You can use the guide here.
Or if that's too much of a read: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
(PS: You're most likely going to be using the G2 Gingerbread unlock since I doubt a new one came with Froyo).
Read through that didn't know if there was different way because of the unlocked bootloader from htc
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Read through that didn't know if there was different way because of the unlocked bootloader from htc
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Htcdev unlock is pretty worthless compared to "ENG S-OFF"
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kbeezie said:
Htcdev unlock is pretty worthless compared to "ENG S-OFF"
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Thats true and when u use HTC Unlock u lose garanty.
You may simply follow the xda-wiki. I rooted my desire z (2.3.3) this July 12th (though it was bought in April, 2011). I don't think htc is intelligent enough to unlock the bootloader in the first place. They still want people to come and ask them for unlocking and then loose warranty. And the warning they have written on the page, my God!. I almost fainted reading their warning.
I don't know but if the bootloader is unlocked, you should be able to boot a custom rom directly by putting it in your sd card (I'm a NOOB so Devs please confirm this).
I was going o use their method but then I read about its futility and decided to go the hard way:laugh:
if you use the offical htc unlocked bootloader you loose your warranty right then, you have to go through many annoying steps to change roms, and being you don't have true s-off it you will be locked out of loads of other stuff
just root and give yourself an engineering hboot with true soff and you will be much happier, if you have a warranty and something goes wrong you can always go back to stock and send it in without their knowledge of ever being rooted
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