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Gingebread official update for Defy?

Is there a chance to get an official Gingerbread update for Defy? or at least, could you tell me what's the best ROM based on Gingerbread I could use? there's a lot of them, and I don't know which one is the best :/ thanks!

No, the defy is not a Motorola mainstream phone,no more updates, i recommend cm7, is a froyo kernel gingerbread rom
Motorola Defy CM7 RC 1.5 OC 1GHz

There is no offical Gingerbread ROM for Defy and there will never be one. Period.
But who needs a bloated stock ROM when CM works flawlessly.
Download the CM7.
Or use one of Walter's port of Defy+ Gingerbread ROMS.
Either works perfectly fine.
PS: Both have the exact same hardware except for the battery (and camera in case of green lens). So, you can just use the official ROM and just replace the battery/camera files.

Thanks for the advices, It's a shame, I've been with official releases but I guess it's time to change, I will try CM7, thanks!

prasannavl said:
Download the CM7.
Or use one of Walter's port of Defy+ Gingerbread ROMS.
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Is there any "official" thread with info of any of theses you mention? where can I get the latest CM7 version? thanks!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12865460
Here, is the last cm7, follow the instructions of the post!
Good luck!
Motorola Defy CM7 RC 1.5 OC 1GHz

ICS
What about ICS? Any official ports?

Gingerbread is coming with defy+ but there is no news that defy will get official ics
Sent from my MB525 using xda premium

[Q] About Kernels and CM9

First of all, I'd like to thank all you guys for all great work here on XDA, thank you very much!!
I have a Motorola Defy (MB525) with Red Lens and although I've changed the ROM of my Defy many times, I'm still new and I have some questions:
The first ROM I've installed on my Defy, was CM7 (unofficial, ported from Quarx), then changed to MIUI, then came back to CM7 (official) and now, I'm using CM9 (24/Feb) from Epsylon3/Quarx (from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100 ) and this build is for Froyo Kernel, and, in this same thread, I've read that GB Kernel is better for CM9 and my Red Lens Defy...
My question is: can I flash CM9 for GB (with GB Kernel) and later return to CM9 for Froyo (and Froyo Kernel), or MIUI, or CM7 if I wanted to??
If I flash CM9 for GB (with GB Kernel), can I go back to stock if I need to??
Well, sorry for this noob questions and sorry for my bad english

well, my personal opinion is, that GB is always better for defy with red lens... only reason for froyo is the missing green lense support in gb, i think ...
i also think, that the kernel for these cm9 roms are flashed with an fixed sbf ... so it doesn't matter, what you have as stock system ...
that is no pro-answer, just a few thinks, i've read and hopefully understood ...
the whole romchange of defy is not easy to understand cause of that locked bootloader things and so on ... i also got a crazy problem with my defy+ as you can read in my thread ...
hopefully, we will get the answers we need to get our systems running as good as we like ...

DJ_Synergy said:
well, my personal opinion is, that GB is always better for defy with red lens... only reason for froyo is the missing green lense support in gb, i think ...
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Does that mean that those of with green lenses won't be able to upgrade to gb kernel if we want our cameras to work? (i mean by the time there's a cm9 stable)

i flashed cm9 feb. 29 release in my green lens defy.. and have camera preview with autofocus on it.. btw i flashed the cm7 kernel.. and i think cm7 kernel is froyo kernel.. cm9 kernel is gingerbread kernel.. anyone can elp me? how to move apps from phone to sd card?

I've found this:
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I packed the two different kernels into clockwork flashable packages.
1. Flash either a nightly or restore a nandroid.
2. Flash either CM7_Kernel-signed.zip or CM9_Kernel-signed.zip; depending on what you've installed.
3. Reboot.
CM7_Kernel-signed.zip
CM9_Kernel-signed.zip
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in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20148046&postcount=1624
that means that I can go to CM9 (with GB Kernel) and then, if I want/need to, go back to CM9 (with Froyo Kernel) or any ROM based on Froyo Kernel, right??

simonardejr said:
I've found this:
in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20148046&postcount=1624
that means that I can go to CM9 (with GB Kernel) and then, if I want/need to, go back to CM9 (with Froyo Kernel) or any ROM based on Froyo Kernel, right??
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You're right. I did this and works. Just flash the kernel based on the corresponding ROM and you're good to go.

[Q] Motorola Defy Kernels

hi guys, I would like to ask experienced users what is the difference between the kernels we used on our Defy(s)
Froyo Kernel vs Gingerbread kernel vs Walter79's Kernel
I first encountered this kernel upon viewing the CM9 update thread
I have a red lense defy and the very first rom I flashed was the official CM7.1 so I am aware I do have a Froyo Kernel running on this bad boy.
what is the difference/ advantages?
which is better?
is it safe to flash one over the other?
is it easy to flash? like how we flash roms? we can always go back to to Froyo kernel from the gingerbread or walter kernel and vice versa?
I think a lot of noobs would appreciate your answers.
I will edit this post and add your answers so that others may find it useful as well
some answers--------------------------------------------
arpith.fbi said:
what is the difference/ advantages?
Ans:My experience says that the main advantage of using GB kernel is battery life..
Defy-4.5.3-109_DPP-11-kernel is well known for awesome battery life.
which is better?
Ans: I personally think Walter79's kernel is better in every sense.Unfortunately for old defy owners(SOC camera green lens), camera wont work on new kernels without any extra fix..
is it safe to flash one over the other?
Ans: Yea its 100% safe..i personally never had any problem as such..but i heard few people faced bootloop..in any case you can always go back to froyo or watever kernel u were using
is it easy to flash? like how we flash roms? we can always go back to to Froyo kernel from the gingerbread or walter kernel and vice versa?
Ans: As i have already mentioned above, we can always switch between these kernels..just remember not to flash any GB kernel based sbf or else u will be stuck! before flashing any unknown or less known kernel PLEASE USE THE SEARCH option and know more about the kernel and related problems.
All the best
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CjRudi said:
i would add, that many people state that GB kernel (2.3) has much better 3d performance - games are running much better than on froyo kernel.
It's easy and safe to switch between kernels, you should only remember that switching kernel must come with installing appropriate rom
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what is the difference/ advantages?
Ans:My experience says that the main advantage of using GB kernel is battery life..
Defy-4.5.3-109_DPP-11-kernel is well known for awesome battery life.
which is better?
Ans: I personally think Walter79's kernel is better in every sense.Unfortunately for old defy owners(SOC camera green lens), camera wont work on new kernels without any extra fix..
is it safe to flash one over the other?
Ans: Yea its 100% safe..i personally never had any problem as such..but i heard few people faced bootloop..in any case you can always go back to froyo or watever kernel u were using
is it easy to flash? like how we flash roms? we can always go back to to Froyo kernel from the gingerbread or walter kernel and vice versa?
Ans: As i have already mentioned above, we can always switch between these kernels..just remember not to flash any GB kernel based sbf or else u will be stuck! before flashing any unknown or less known kernel PLEASE USE THE SEARCH option and know more about the kernel and related problems.
All the best

thanks for the answer, somehow it has enlightened me
any more answers? which kernels allow 720p recording?

i would add, that many people state that GB kernel (2.3) has much better 3d performance - games are running much better than on froyo kernel.
It's easy and safe to switch between kernels, you should only remember that switching kernel must come with installing appropriate rom

arpith.fbi said:
what is the difference/ advantages?
Ans:My experience says that the main advantage of using GB kernel is battery life..
Defy-4.5.3-109_DPP-11-kernel is well known for awesome battery life.
which is better?
Ans: I personally think Walter79's kernel is better in every sense.Unfortunately for old defy owners(SOC camera green lens), camera wont work on new kernels without any extra fix..
is it safe to flash one over the other?
Ans: Yea its 100% safe..i personally never had any problem as such..but i heard few people faced bootloop..in any case you can always go back to froyo or watever kernel u were using
is it easy to flash? like how we flash roms? we can always go back to to Froyo kernel from the gingerbread or walter kernel and vice versa?
Ans: As i have already mentioned above, we can always switch between these kernels..just remember not to flash any GB kernel based sbf or else u will be stuck! before flashing any unknown or less known kernel PLEASE USE THE SEARCH option and know more about the kernel and related problems.
All the best
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Thanks for this information bro!!
Please also share Camera fix (link) for GB kernel for SOC Camera and also mentioned whether downgrade is possible. Your help will be appreciated.

anyone correct me but we can do dual boot but can't install dual kernels?
say
cm7 (froyo kernel ) as system
cm9 (gingerbread kernel) on SD
and will Gingerbread kernel work with cm7 for the defy, red lense?

chachoi said:
anyone correct me but we can do dual boot but can't install dual kernels?
say
cm7 (froyo kernel ) as system
cm9 (gingerbread kernel) on SD
and will Gingerbread kernel work with cm7 for the defy, red lense?
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No, can't do it. Both ROM's should share the same kernel.

thanks Auris, would you be able to add anything or negate anything that was previously posted about the Defy Kernels?

Please help me a bit with those kernels! I have a defy+ with 2.3.6 base and one of those newest official build nandroids. Can I flash Walter's kernel? ^^
Just don't want any bootloader error!
Sent from my Defy+ using xda premium (app needs update!)

M on froyo kernel running cm7.2
Can I flash gb kernel? Also m having green lens.
Will the camera work on walters69 kernel?
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thanks
thanks, guys. i've been looking for the answers

Is it okay to flash defy+ rom zip and then the gb kernel on a green lens defy? To me battery life is more important than camera

chachoi said:
thanks for the answer, somehow it has enlightened me
any more answers? which kernels allow 720p recording?
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Walter79's kernel allows 720p recording for defy red lens.

Defy kernel Flash
i have a motorola defy green lens currently running cm9 4.0.4 (camera's not working but i don't care much for the camera ) . ok here's my problem i'm trying to flash a different kernel on my defy.. the current kernel im running is 2.6.32.9 cdt 2011 but i need better performance and i tried to flash semaphore kernel. the flash was successful but i see no changes and also in the settings>about phone the kernel version hasnt changed. i need help so that i can flash new kernel properly.. thanks

Hi!
I realize this is a very old thread, but it seems to be one of the few addressing the (dis)advantages of the froyo vs the GB kernel (independently of the ROM!).
The 720p-recording is really not important to me, but battery life is and I just read here that it would be better on GB kernel.
Do any of you have further experience with regards to battery-life difference between Froyo and GB kernels (not ROMs)!? Is it a big difference (to what extent or through which features?)
I have a MB525 with red lens and Froyo kernel, so I could go for a GB-kernel.
I've recently rooted my smartphone and flashed WIUI (3.1.27, GB&MIUI-based) on it, because (1) my phone was slowing down, (2) I wanted not to have any bloatware anymore and (3) I wanted some apps that only run on Gingerbread/2.3+ (e.g. the offline-language-package-feature from Google Translate). Almost everything is now better.
BUT, my battery life got worse! I've now down-volted my smartphone to a stable point and set it to 'smartassv2', but am looking for further improvement for the battery life. As WIUI can be installed both on froyo and GB-kernel, I might also update the Kernel...but only want to take the plunge if it really would make a difference...
any advice or experience is welcome!

[Q]Latest/Best Kernels for Froyo and Gingerbread

For the sake of updatedness, what are the best kernels for Froyo and Gingerbread?
Also, I flashed a GB kernel to try out a CM9 build. Now I want to install the official 7.2 RC. I need to flash a Froyo kernel again right?

There are no custom kernels for the defy as it has a locked bootloader, only the official signed motorola ones, the froyo which came with defy and gb which came with defy+.
For cm7 you need froyo kernel, just reflash it. Cm9 have 2 builds - one for froyo kernel and one for gb kernel. I think the green lense defys may only work with froyo kernel.
Sent from my MB526 using XDA

sim0t said:
There are no custom kernels for the defy as it has a locked bootloader, only the official signed motorola ones, the froyo which came with defy and gb which came with defy+.
For cm7 you need froyo kernel, just reflash it. Cm9 have 2 builds - one for froyo kernel and one for gb kernel. I think the green lense defys may only work with froyo kernel.
Sent from my MB526 using XDA
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What abt the DHT kernel from Walter. I think its not ripped from defy or defy+.
It is used in Motoginger roms

Hi, sorry for my first noob question ...
Quite the same question as the original :
I found here on the github (I can't post link) that 2.2.2-177 & 2.2.2-179 have a different Kernel hashes 2.6.32.9-ga28fcc4 or 2.6.32.9-gb08c3c8.
I thought the latest CM7.2 were containing the lastest kernel id 179.
When I look at mine I have 2.6.32.9-ga28fcc4, which seems to be 177 ...
I'm actually on cm7.2 20120509-NIGHTLY-jordan, from the official nightlies ...
here (on the dowload page from Epsylon3, can't post ...) i found the 179 kernel, would it be necessary to flash it in order to have a matching kernel with the lastest nightlies ?
Only talking of froyo kernels ...

sim0t said:
There are no custom kernels for the defy as it has a locked bootloader, only the official signed motorola ones, the froyo which came with defy and gb which came with defy+.
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So do I think. However some people are often saying that they flashed a cm9 or whatever kernel... what do they mean by this.
P.S.: There are some attempts to boot another kernel with the help of kexec/2ndboot, but currently only with minor succes afaik.

How's the performance of CM9 on Defy?

Hello I have a Defy MB525 and I'd like to give it an upgrade and since there's no official Android releases above 2.2 I'm thinking about installing CM) which is 4.0 based right? I'd like to know how's the performance? does it become slower or how many bugs are? would you recommended it? thanks in advanced, it looks really good so I'd like to try it!

dear friend, trust me .you'd better use the CM9 latest by quarx's.Now we all taste the JB already
anyway the Quarx's CM series(CM7,CM9.CM10) are very perfect on Defy.
You must to try for it!:good:

for everyday rom, try cm9 by epsylon froyo kernel. I am using it and there's no issue or bug I have encountered (I use my defy as a phone).

What are the major differences between Quarx's and Epsylon ROMS? thanks you both for the info!:good:

there is no difference in both builds, afterall both are ics...
why don't you try both using multiboot and decide yourself.

I will give them a try, both releases can be found on Development section right? any link? thank you!
EDIT: Now that you mention it? how can I use multiboot? could I have stock rom and custom rom?

saman0suke1 said:
I will give them a try, both releases can be found on Development section right? any link? thank you!
EDIT: Now that you mention it? how can I use multiboot? could I have stock rom and custom rom?
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There is multiboot thread in development section, just go through it and you will find out how.
And yes you can have stock rom as base rom and custom rom as virtual rom as long as you have same kernel for both.( for mb525 its froyo kernel)
Btw the link for multiboot - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364659

Thanks! Do you have by any chance the links for CM9 by Quarx and Epsylon? thank you!

rishi2100 said:
there is no difference in both builds, afterall both are ics...
why don't you try both using multiboot and decide yourself.
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NOT RECOMMENDED. The performance you'd get from a ROM installed to your microSD (that's what multiboot does!) is inferior to having installed in the ROM partition of the phone.

saman0suke1 said:
Thanks! Do you have by any chance the links for CM9 by Quarx and Epsylon? thank you!
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Cm9 by epsylon - http://defy-cm.net/
And by quarx - http://quarx2k.ru/

I will skip the installation of MultiBoot for now, but I will try either Quarx's or Epsylon's ROM, thank you!!