Related
Ok so I have been messing around with the evo and doing a new rom for the whole cricket thing.
One thing i have noticed while doing this is that the EVO DOES NOT drop down to 1x at all. So i decided to write a 1x PRL to the phone. The phone reports that it is ON 3G network. This is not possible and I think that is wrong. Sprint has the phone reporting that it is 3G even though its on a 1x network.
If his has been discussed please let me know thanks.
amoamare said:
Ok so I have been messing around with the evo and doing a new rom for the whole cricket thing.
One thing i have noticed while doing this is that the EVO DOES NOT drop down to 1x at all. So i decided to write a 1x PRL to the phone. The phone reports that it is ON 3G network. This is not possible and I think that is wrong. Sprint has the phone reporting that it is 3G even though its on a 1x network.
If his has been discussed please let me know thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry to deviate from your original message but is there a way to force 1x? I'm assuming 1x uses less energy than EVDO/3G; so if true, it would be beneficial to switch to 1x when idling/display is off. Maybe tasker or juice defender already does this?
Edit: On CM6 I hit 1x from time to time. At least the status bar reports it as 1x. Could be a Sense/HTC bug.
Edit 2: It seems that Android doesn't have a API for 3G/2G toggling. Sucks.
No your fine, Yes CM does go to 1x. This isnt based off a sprint rom. Its not a HTC Sense issue because I had ported a incredible rom a while back to the phone and it would drop to 1x. I just tried a new port for 2.2 from the incredible and its doing the same thing.
It is possbile that it could be a HTC Sense Bug in the 2.2 Froyo. But i really think that Verizon and Sprint are not wanting it to drop to 1x. Wich i think is wrong.
The way i forced it was to load a 1x PRL on the phone.
I'm connected as 3G "False" as i checked the speed now and I only got 39.62kb wich is far from the 1565.1kbs i checked before switching PRL.
Maybe you already knew this, but I'm pretty sure that for a 1xRTT network the 3G icon in stock htc sense roms simply greys out. At least that's what I remember seeing in the manual. When the phone is connected to 3G the icon turns white.
I don't know - I'm almost positive that I've seen a 1x symbol in my status bar instead of 3g a few times. It's been a while though...
Well from what i see thats not true.
Im on 1xRTT right now. The icon is a solid white.
Even if that was the case and it should grey out. That is completely deceiving. It should accurtly show it is on the 1x network.
amoamare said:
Well from what i see thats not true.
Im on 1xRTT right now. The icon is a solid white.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sorry - who was this to? Also, I know there's a 1x symbol in the framework - it's got to be there for a reason, right?
OK I just checked the manual and it has a 1X icon. You're right.
Edit: The com.htc.resources.apk where sense signal icons are located contains the images for 1X so maybe it's something in the xml's that prevents the phone from either correctly notifying a 1X signal or bypassing the connection all together. HTC obviously intended for the phone to connect to 1X if they took the time to sensify the images. Strange.
Yes HTC intended for it but thats not the case. Has anyone on sprint successfully dropped to a 1x Connection ? Here is what I notice if im not forcing a 1x connection.
If it looses a 3G connection, it does not successfully drop to 1x. It just looses 3G all together then tries multiple times to go to 3G if it doesn't succeed you loose internet.
If you have a 1x prl it loads 1x but shows its a 3G connection wich is not true at all. This is disappointing.
amoamare said:
Yes HTC intended for it but thats not the case. Has anyone on sprint successfully dropped to a 1x Connection ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ummm...yeah - like I said in my prev post, I've seen the 1x icon appear on my phone in parts of nj where I wasn't picking up 3g.
What ROM are you using ?
OK Im going to grab my friends Evo tonight that is on a sprint a force a 1x connection and see if his shows accurately or not.
I assume your custom PRL is forcing a 1X connection on sprint towers and not verizon or something? The phone may only show a drop to 1X if on sprint's network. If you are on verizon or cricket or something it probably wont indicate 1X.
amoamare said:
What ROM are you using ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was either using stock, or an older version of baked snack.
Its not a custom PRL the one im using is a cricket prl. Made only for 1x network. It does not support EVDO.
Sprint has a few 1x PRL's only and I will load his phone with it and test it.
That doesn't make sense. The phone being on cricket or any other service would not make the phone report its on 3G all time. I flash a lot of phones to cricket. Like i said before this is a Sprint Rom issue. I loaded it with a incredible ROM and it successfully drops to 1x connection.
fachadick,
You might have been using baked snack rom.
Im checking tonight with the service on sprint.
So far its confirmed.
Two people with HTC EVO's on sprint.
One (Me) on with evo on cricket.
We forced all three EVOs to work on 1x connection only. All three of them are showing 3G icon but are only getting 1x speeds. This is very deceiving.
amoamare said:
Its not a custom PRL the one im using is a cricket prl. Made only for 1x network. It does not support EVDO.
Sprint has a few 1x PRL's only and I will load his phone with it and test it.
That doesn't make sense. The phone being on cricket or any other service would not make the phone report its on 3G all time. I flash a lot of phones to cricket. Like i said before this is a Sprint Rom issue. I loaded it with a incredible ROM and it successfully drops to 1x connection.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The reason I say it might not work on a PRL from another carrier is because when I am roaming I get a triangle above my reception, but the data icon remains 3G if I remember correctly. The actual data connection is only 1X because of roaming agreements, so what I am theorizing here is that the phone only changes to 1X when you are on an authentic sprint network and the connection drops to 1X. This is probably built into the rom, which is why it works for other phones, but not the EVO.
Because you are using a "roaming" PRL, I would think that the phone doesn't trigger the change to 1X icon just like actual roaming with a Sprint PRL. That's my hunch.
Yes i understand what you are saying, and yes that is plausible.
But doesn't explain why when we force the sprint ones they do not change to 1x ? I can force any other phone to 1x on the sprint network.
I googled and can't find a download for verizon 2010 PRLs. Anyone have a link or can rip it from their phone??
noob_2010 said:
I googled and can't find a download for verizon 2010 PRLs. Anyone have a link or can rip it from their phone??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is the Sprint Evo forum. Maybe try a Verizon forum?
I was thinking someone here already had it ripped out of a verizon phone for their use on the Evo too
HERE are a few Verizon PRL's I keep around. There is a 51926 in there, I think from June or July of this year. Also some 65 series PRL's, but I haven't used any of them. I can verify that at least in Vancouver, WA I get great voice and 3G signal with the 51 series PRL's, cant really tell the difference between them, 518, 516, 517, 519, all good for me. Roaming triangle taunts me the whole time though,
Also, link in my sig for some other PRL's for the VZW 3G hack.
JTNiggle said:
HERE are a few Verizon PRL's I keep around. There is a 51926 in there, I think from June or July of this year. Also some 65 series PRL's, but I haven't used any of them. I can verify that at least in Vancouver, WA I get great voice and 3G signal with the 51 series PRL's, cant really tell the difference between them, 518, 516, 517, 519, all good for me. Roaming triangle taunts me the whole time though,
Also, link in my sig for some other PRL's for the VZW 3G hack.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks but i've tried 25 roams through out the month with altel/verizon and I always get 1x with 1 BAR. the only difference is some PRLs show the roam sign and others don't. This one even gave me the Roaming symbol.....What could the problem be????
I really don't know what the issue could be. I know that all the PRL's I linked will roam on 3G, so ???
JTNiggle said:
I really don't know what the issue could be. I know that all the PRL's I linked will roam on 3G, so ???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well they jump back and forth from Evd and Evdo_A when I sit the phone with 1 bar. But if I try to use the phone it jumps back down to 1xrrt with 1 or 2 bars at times. I'm kind of new to the hacking scene but I think everyone thing is good on my end. Unless there are other things you suppose to do after changing your PRL?
I'm no hacker myself, so at this point I don't know what else to look at.
Whenever I run any of these PRL's, I always have my network set to Sprint only, I turn off data roaming and make sure always on mobile data is enabled. But, even at the worst, I get intermittent data loss, but never get anything other then 3g. Have you tried the 00001 and 01337 prl's from the roam hack thread?
For me, on CM6.1, if I run any of the verizon PRL's, and select Sprint Only in the wireless networks menu, I roam on VZW 3G. If I switch to Affiliated Networks setting, I will drop all signal cause it gets confused I guess. If I change back to a Sprint PRL, and Affiliated Networks, I get good voice signal, but show 1x for data. As soon as I put it back to Sprint only, my data returns to 3g.
On any new froyo sense rom, it's almost impossible to tell. A bug that seems like it may be intentional has popped up. My phone will not show 1x, but only 3g. Even when I'm on a sprint prl, and confirmed to be roaming, which would be 1x, It still shows 3g. I dug into the rom, and the icons are there, they just don't show up on a lot of sense rom's
How are you able to tell what evdo ur on? Are you on an Evo?
JTNiggle said:
I'm no hacker myself, so at this point I don't know what else to look at.
Whenever I run any of these PRL's, I always have my network set to Sprint only, I turn off data roaming and make sure always on mobile data is enabled. But, even at the worst, I get intermittent data loss, but never get anything other then 3g. Have you tried the 00001 and 01337 prl's from the roam hack thread?
For me, on CM6.1, if I run any of the verizon PRL's, and select Sprint Only in the wireless networks menu, I roam on VZW 3G. If I switch to Affiliated Networks setting, I will drop all signal cause it gets confused I guess. If I change back to a Sprint PRL, and Affiliated Networks, I get good voice signal, but show 1x for data. As soon as I put it back to Sprint only, my data returns to 3g.
On any new froyo sense rom, it's almost impossible to tell. A bug that seems like it may be intentional has popped up. My phone will not show 1x, but only 3g. Even when I'm on a sprint prl, and confirmed to be roaming, which would be 1x, It still shows 3g. I dug into the rom, and the icons are there, they just don't show up on a lot of sense rom's
How are you able to tell what evdo ur on? Are you on an Evo?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Theres a app called Cellumap and Phonestatus in the marketplace. It tells you the network your phone is on and cellular provider.
I'm using the sprint lovers CUSTOM rom. I guess I'll switch to cm6 custom rom like you are using and set it up like you mentioned. so I'll give this a try tommorow(sunday) and report back. but I think it's just the RURAL area I live in but then again Verizon has full coverage according to their map...
yeah, probably just ur area. You should call Verizon and tell them about the issue
You could say something like, "hey, I'm trying to use your expanded 3g service for free, but all I get is 1x. Can you give me an ETA as to when this will be fixed?" That would be fun!
I'll give those apps a try on my end and see what I get.
Well, I'm getting EVDO rev a on most of these. Provider shows digital roaming but still says Sprint. Confirmed speed tests at just under 1mbs and dialing a number without area code sends me to Verizon error message.
That is with the 51 and 41 PRL's.
Hey... This thing makes phone calls too!
JTNiggle said:
Well, I'm getting EVDO rev a on most of these. Provider shows digital roaming but still says Sprint. Confirmed speed tests at just under 1mbs and dialing a number without area code sends me to Verizon error message.
That is with the 51 and 41 PRL's.
Hey... This thing makes phone calls too!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Aw great for you ... well I'm installing this cyanogenmod6.1 custom rom and see what it does on a different rom I guess. If not I don't know what else I could, probably no roaming agreement with Verizon(altell had my area covered before Verizon bought them so Verizon really never had towers here....)
Ah, so that's why you were looking for the newest PRL. I would think you could get it to work with the right PRL.
Hey... This thing makes phone calls too!
I didn't know how to title this so here is my question and scenario.
The nexus 4 I have is great except for the erratic signal issues. Used to have the T-Mobile S3 and sinal was way better than this phone, but I digest. My phone company Solavei (Runs on T-Mobile) allows me to Roam on AT&T for free whenever I'm out of range with T-Mobile. The first time i checked this out, I went to the middle of nowhere and my phone automatically went over to AT&T, had Full bars, Edge network speed. everything was great. However I find myself in school without signal 98% of the time and odd enough, my phone is able to see AT&T but it just doesnt connect to it.
Is there an app that I can force my phone to roam If not, is there a setting that I can indicate when the phone should roam?
Basically what I want to do is edit roaming values so whenever my phone doesn't find signal from T-Mobile towers, it searches for 15 seconds and if it doesn't find anything, It is forced to Roam. Is there anything like that if possible?
Sorry for the long story and thanks for the patience lol.
osmosizzz said:
I didn't know how to title this so here is my question and scenario.
The nexus 4 I have is great except for the erratic signal issues. Used to have the T-Mobile S3 and sinal was way better than this phone, but I digest. My phone company Solavei (Runs on T-Mobile) allows me to Roam on AT&T for free whenever I'm out of range with T-Mobile. The first time i checked this out, I went to the middle of nowhere and my phone automatically went over to AT&T, had Full bars, Edge network speed. everything was great. However I find myself in school without signal 98% of the time and odd enough, my phone is able to see AT&T but it just doesnt connect to it.
Is there an app that I can force my phone to roam If not, is there a setting that I can indicate when the phone should roam?
Basically what I want to do is edit roaming values so whenever my phone doesn't find signal from T-Mobile towers, it searches for 15 seconds and if it doesn't find anything, It is forced to Roam. Is there anything like that if possible?
Sorry for the long story and thanks for the patience lol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have the Data Roaming checked in the mobile network setting?
Yeah that's checked. Both for data and voice
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Problem has been resolved. See my final post in this thread.
Long time lurker. First time poster.
I am having problems getting 3G data on my new phone.
Last week I activated a new Moto X Pure Edition on the Sprint network via MVNO Ting. The phone appeared to activate just fine. Voice, text, LTE, Wi-Fi, and 1x data are all working without any obvious issues. Phone is pure stock.
3G data is not working. If I set Preferred Network Type to "LTE (recommended)", mobile data works on LTE but if I travel to an area that has not yet been upgraded to LTE, it will not drop back to 3G. Further, if I choose 3G as the Preferred Network Type regardless of whether the phone is connected to an LTE tower or a non-LTE tower, I get no data connection. Same for Global - no 3G connection.
If I choose "1x" as the Preferred Network Type (whether in an LTE area or not) then the phone will establish a data connection. The phone reports this connection as 3G in the status bar but the speed is so unusable that I doubt it can be a 3G connection.
I've done a carrier wipe, updated the device config (profile) and updated the PRL, all several times. Nothing changed. I've also done a factory reset which also did not help. I did not have any issues with my Nexus 5 which the MXPE replaced. I have since reactivated the Nexus 5 with a new number while troubleshooting this problem and it reactivated just fine. No issues at all.
Questions:
1) SignalCheck Pro reports that mobile data is "unregistered" when trying to get 3G data. Is registration of 3G data tied to the SIM card or to the MEID of the phone? Trying to determine if the registration problem lies with the SIM, the phone, or the network.
2) Why would I be able to get a 1x data connection but not 3G?
3) Ting is suggesting network problems may be playing a part but I'm not sure as the problem has persisted through several cities around west Texas and eastern New Mexico and throughout Lubbock TX which has many cell towers. Is there any way this could be a network issue?
4) Is the SIM for the MXPE compatible with my old Nexus 5? I'm wondering if swapping the SIM into my N5 will help to diagnose the problem.
5) Is anyone else with a MXPE having issues with 3G data?
This one is puzzling and I need some help from the gurus. Thanks much.
DC
Bump.
Swapped SIMS with one sent by Ting to verify the problem wasn't with the SIM. Still no 3G.
DC
DC73 said:
Long time lurker. First time poster.
I am having problems getting 3G data on my new phone.
Last week I activated a new Moto X Pure Edition on the Sprint network via MVNO Ting. The phone appeared to activate just fine. Voice, text, LTE, Wi-Fi, and 1x data are all working without any obvious issues. Phone is pure stock.
3G data is not working. If I set Preferred Network Type to "LTE (recommended)", mobile data works on LTE but if I travel to an area that has not yet been upgraded to LTE, it will not drop back to 3G. Further, if I choose 3G as the Preferred Network Type regardless of whether the phone is connected to an LTE tower or a non-LTE tower, I get no data connection. Same for Global - no 3G connection.
If I choose "1x" as the Preferred Network Type (whether in an LTE area or not) then the phone will establish a data connection. The phone reports this connection as 3G in the status bar but the speed is so unusable that I doubt it can be a 3G connection.
I've done a carrier wipe, updated the device config (profile) and updated the PRL, all several times. Nothing changed. I've also done a factory reset which also did not help. I did not have any issues with my Nexus 5 which the MXPE replaced. I have since reactivated the Nexus 5 with a new number while troubleshooting this problem and it reactivated just fine. No issues at all.
Questions:
1) SignalCheck Pro reports that mobile data is "unregistered" when trying to get 3G data. Is registration of 3G data tied to the SIM card or to the MEID of the phone? Trying to determine if the registration problem lies with the SIM, the phone, or the network.
2) Why would I be able to get a 1x data connection but not 3G?
3) Ting is suggesting network problems may be playing a part but I'm not sure as the problem has persisted through several cities around west Texas and eastern New Mexico and throughout Lubbock TX which has many cell towers. Is there any way this could be a network issue?
4) Is the SIM for the MXPE compatible with my old Nexus 5? I'm wondering if swapping the SIM into my N5 will help to diagnose the problem.
5) Is anyone else with a MXPE having issues with 3G data?
This one is puzzling and I need some help from the gurus. Thanks much.
DC
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes..i am having the same issue..with vodafone in india
Update. After two Moto X PE phones, numerous factory resets, much research and testing, there is now a work around to this problem. The problem does not appear to impact any phones on the big 4 networks. It only impacts phones on a Sprint MVNO.
There are now known eHRPD issues with Sprint and their MVNOs. The work around solution is to disable eHRPD. Sprint is working on changes to eHRPD that may resolve the issue permanently. Thanks to Ting for their persistence in helping get to the bottom of this problem.
DC
Final update. Earlier this month Sprint released some changes to the way eHRPD handoffs are handled and that resolved my issue. My Moto X PE now works as it should with no workarounds necessary to get 3G data.
DC
DC73 said:
Final update. Earlier this month Sprint released some changes to the way eHRPD handoffs are handled and that resolved my issue. My Moto X PE now works as it should with no workarounds necessary to get 3G data.
DC
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How to get this update?
Sekasniy said:
How to get this update?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There was no update pushed to the phone and no changes to the phone. The fix was on the network side.
DC
DC73 said:
There was no update pushed to the phone and no changes to the phone. The fix was on the network side.
DC
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So why not work 3g? Is the problem in cell operator?
^^Sprint had some issues with 3g (ehrpd) on mvno's. It would work if forced to evdo, but not ehrpd. Sprint made some changes to their network so this now works correctly. It was a network side issue.
I use MVNOs because I am on a tight budget. With MintSim and MetroPCS which use T-mobile I had a below average signal on this phone and with Boost which uses Sprint I had a dreadful signal. Currently I'm using a Verizon MVNO which has an excellent signal except for one issue. The signal will be great for a day then it will become poor. The signal strength will not return to previous strength unless I power the phone down for a minute and then turn it back on. Then the signal will be great for about a day again until it goes bad and I have to turn the phone off and on again.
I tried a factory reset which didn't help. Toggling airplane mode on and off doesn't help. Rebooting the phone instead of powering off doesn't help. Changing the preferred network type in settings doesn't help.
If I type *#*#4636#*#* and change the network from LTE/CDMD/UMTS (Auto PRL) to one where LTE is replaced by a different network and then switch back to LTE/CDMA/UMTS that restores the strong LTE signal but powering the phone on and off is faster.
I could change the APN settings with T-Mobile but with Verizon the APN settings are greyed out and there is no way to edit the current APN or add a new one.
Mobile Data Always Active is already enabled in developer options.
Does anybody know what I could do so the Verizon network strength doesn't eventually drop requiring shutting the phone off and turning it back on to refresh the network connection?
I have owned a lot of phones over the years but never one with signal issues like the PH-1. Essential support won't help because they escalated my ticket to RMA when I was still on T-Mobile. Since an RMA would provide me with a refurbished phone that somebody else probably returned due to the signal strength issues I would rather figure out how to get my current phone to work right with Verizon if that's possible.
When I went out I had no data despite the signal meter showing a strong signal. It turned out my phone had the wrong APN (Verizon instead of Trac Wireless) but unlike GSM carriers the APN settings are locked so TotalWireless (which is owned by Trac Phone) had to send my phone the correct APN. My data actually works now and so far the signal has been very strong but it's too early to say if the same signal problem I wrote about will pop up again since the APN was only corrected a few hours ago.
If nobody else has experienced a similar issue with the quality of the Verizon signal losing strength after the phone has been asleep for an extended period of time then maybe my phone is defective after all. I guess I'll just keep my fingers crossed that the signal still looks good when I wake up tomorrow.