I was messing around the internet in http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster&posted=1&cpu=a20aph looking at other AP20H devices, when I suddenly found this little nugget of info:
Sony tablet S, Sony Tablet P, and KDDI Asus Tough ETBW11AA are all supposedly AP20H devices running honeycomb.
Assuming that the internet isn't wrong, Is it possible that these devices are running a newer kernel version that could dissected for our benefit?
Sorry if this is a wild goose chase, but I thought it was worth letting more knowledgeable people than me figure out if this had any merit.
This might be of help, sorry if it is not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22101686
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hey all,
I'm not a developer by any means but I just read a post up on engadget about someone exploiting the Pre and able to flash any unsigned firmware and what not. And this got me thinking about if it was possible to port over a different OS, like Android.
here's the engadget post: HERE.
and here's the original poster's link: HERE.
So my question to the devs out there... now with this exploit, would it even be possible to port Android OS over to the Palm Pre phone? Or am I just dreaming up things lol.
Because the specs on the Pre are pretty impressive.
Just a thought. Don't hate... participate
Pre uses an ARM Cortex A8 which is ARMv7 architecture. Dream is using ARMv6 architecture. I dunno if v7 is considered a strict superset of v6 but if it is you could probably just recompile the AOSP code. As for the pre side of things, that post seems promising, but I can't help but feel there are probably some hidden things Mr. Troughton-Smith hasn't discovered yet, particularly in regards to flashing down to the bootloader. At the core, Pre runs on the linux kernel so atleast that part is promising.
Frankly though, I'd have to again ask why at this point in time anyone would want to buy a Pre to put Android on it. It costs a ton without a contract and has no GSM/UMTS, making it all but useless outside the United States.
Wrong: CYANOGENMOD 7 RELEASED, HARMONY SUPPORT, DIDN'T NOTICE ANY POSTS REFERING TO IT
Right: CM7 was released, with Harmony support.
Wrong: SHAME THAT NVIDIA ARE NOT SUPPORTING DEVELOPMENT FOR HARMONY CHIP FROM 2.2 ONWARDS IF REPORTS ARE TRUE
Right: It's a shame that nVidia isn't supporting Harmony developers from 2.2 onwards, if reports are true.
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Yes if you actually look at the other CM7 threads you will see that the Vega changes have been added to the official tree now.....
and how can you go and say that we have cm7 (2.3) and then complain about the lack of nvidia support beyond 2.2 in the same post, completely contradicts itself....
but doesnt the tegra 2 already power a bunch of honeycomb tablets already?
mintvilla said:
but doesnt the tegra 2 already power a bunch of honeycomb tablets already?
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there are two types of tegra 2 boards, Harmony which the vega has supported to android 2.2 and Ventana which the xoom has, supported beyond 2.2
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Also, thank you Lennyuk for your expertise. I actually wasn't aware of the two Tegra 2 revisions. What are the differences between Harmony and Ventana?
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Useless posts removed, OP reformatted. All caps is just annoying.
Also, thank you Lennyuk for your expertise. I actually wasn't aware of the two Tegra 2 revisions. What are the differences between Harmony and Ventana?
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as far as I know there is not actually a great deal of differences between the two, I think the ventana board has an extra GPU slot, that might be it.
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as far as I know there is not actually a great deal of differences between the two, I think the ventana board has an extra GPU slot, that might be it.
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Interesting. I wonder why that would be since these SOCs don't have modular components, with the GPU being directly integrated into the SOC itself... Weird.
UPDATE 12 APRIL 2011:
Sorry folks looks like I caused a bit of confusion. Since this is a developer forum my comments
were targeted at Tegra Honeycomb developers and for this we’d like to focus on Ventana. For shipping or production products, customers should contact the device makers directly for OS support plans. They are responsible for the OS shipping on their device.
In relation to our linux kernel git repository, NVIDIA will continue to provide full open-source support for all of our kernel components and will push more of that upstream over time.
Andrew Edelsten
Tegra Developer Relations
NVIDIA CorporationTop
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Interesting update something for developers to get teeth into sometime
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haha to right
UPDATE 13 APRIL 2011
A lot has been read into a very short post about a Tegra development kit. I'd like to clear up a few points.
First, nothing changes in what we’re delivering to the open source community or customers. NVIDIA will continue to post the Tegra kernel to kernel.org and publish our Android code to our public git servers. Additionally, we will continue to make our BSP (codecs, GPU driver etc) available to all our hardware partners. We will continue to do this and nothing about these processes has changed.
For our partners' Android devices, NVIDIA provides support until the hardware partner chooses to no longer support the device. So, for instance, NVIDIA will support the Xoom on all versions of Android Motorola requests until Motorola ceases to support the Xoom. The same goes for ViewSonic with the G-Tablet, Notion Ink with the Adam, Acer with the Iconia, LG with the Optimus 2X and so on.
In relation to my original reply, that was a response to a specific question about a Tegra 250 Development Kit. Given the confusion, we will work with owners of Tegra 250 Development Kits individually to determine their needs. The term "Harmony" is an internal codename for the Tegra 250 Development Kit. It is not a tablet reference design. Each shipping tablet is a custom design with varying hardware components and requires a custom OS image from the OEM who made the tablet.
Finally, while we cannot support or give out third party peripheral drivers or provide the Android 3.0 source before Google does, we do want to explore whether we can assist the open source ROM makers. We will be reaching out to them today.
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Caps from original nvidia forum post.
Stop being so anal anyway
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Can anyone translate this for me? Are we (Advent Vega users) getting the Tegra 2 update? And is this the one for Honeycomb?
From what I can tell, Yes. Or am I reading this wrong?
GaiusSensei said:
Can anyone translate this for me? Are we (Advent Vega users) getting the Tegra 2 update? And is this the one for Honeycomb?
From what I can tell, Yes. Or am I reading this wrong?
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There is no "Tegra 2" Update
You are getting confused.
Basically when the Tegra2 boards were given to manufacturers they had one of two designs
Harmony which the vega has
or Ventana which newer tablets have
These are not set in stone, they were just designs that then get built to specific needs by each manufacturer.
Nvidia are not releasing their own stock images beyond android 2.2 for Harmony however they have made it very clear that it is down to each manufacturer to do this, Nvidia will support the manufacturers for as long as they want to continue service on each device.
Advent do not yet know if the manufacturer (Shuttle) will give us a HC rom, however at least 2 other clones of the Vega have confirmed it, so it looks promising.
Point of View is supposed to deliver us a fresh HC ROM, I would be really thankful!
All I need is a rom w/o cellphone stuff, just tablet things to work always with optimizations and no slow downs.. That's why I bought a tablet with tegra... but after news like this, customers like me get pretty sad and will regret buying another device from them. Gz;
Being released by NVIDIA this afternoon is the Tegra 12 Alpha 1 Linux release. This is a Linux software release intended for developers using NVIDIA's Tegra 2 platform.
The NVIDIA Tegra Linux 12 Alpha 1 release is based on the Linux 2.6.38 kernel and is derived from Ubuntu. Graphics standards supported by this Tegra-ified Ubuntu release include OpenGL ES 1.1/2.0, EGL 1.3, OpenMAX IL 1.1, and RandR 1.3.
For those interested in Linux for Tegra 12 Alpha 1, the relevant links are available from this forum thread.
Found by edgan
O.... so this replaced webtop? (or might/will?)
Edit: We don't have the Tegra 250 chip, I think we have have the Tegra 200 chip... the driver package is for 250.
Mgamerz said:
O.... so this replaced webtop? (or might/will?)
Edit: We don't have the Tegra 250 chip, I think we have have the Tegra 200 chip... the driver package is for 250.
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The changelog says it supports the 200 series.
Nice but this belongs in the General forum.
If you didn't create it, it doesn't belong in development. It's a nice sticky that is on other devices' development forum and i think it applies here as well.
franciscojavierleon said:
Nice but this belongs in the General forum.
If you didn't create it, it doesn't belong in development. It's a nice sticky that is on other devices' development forum and i think it applies here as well.
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You are probably right, I got overly excited and posted it here, please move to it the appropriate forum.
Cheers
I also think this belongs in general but here is a actual link to the official site @ nvidia
http://developer.nvidia.com/content/linux-tegra-release-12-alpha-1-released
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The changelog says it supports the 200 series.
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But it looks like the Alpha Release only supports Tegra 250 "Harmony".
Taking directly from the Release Notes,
Code:
Note: This alpha release of Tegra Linux Driver Package (L4T.ER1 ) is a
release for Tegra 250 “Harmony” only. The information in these release
notes is preliminary
According to pdadb.net Atrix has Tegra 2 250 chip, also wikipedia says it has Tegra 250 AP20H (H stands for Harmony?)
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According to pdadb.net Atrix has Tegra 2 250 chip, also wikipedia says it has Tegra 250 AP20H (H stands for Harmony?)
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That is correct. There is no Tegra 200.
The Tegra 250 AP20H is the chip used in phones, Tegra 250 T20 is used in tablets. As far as I can tell, the biggest difference between the two SoCs is that the Geforce ULP GPU is clocked higher on the tablets (333mhz vs 300).
So this could be huge for WebTop?
Cheers
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So this could be huge for WebTop?
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Possibly... but to be honest, I'm not willing to give up Flash to go up to 11.04, let alone things like the Android-In-Window functionality. Updated versions of those are a lot harder to get. It might be able to get an updated Flash if we could find a Linux-based device out there that we could hack, but the others...? Good luck.
I'll be trying an upgrade to Ubuntu 10.04 at some later point in time, but I can't make any promises that it will succeed.
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Possibly... but to be honest, I'm not willing to give up Flash to go up to 11.04, let alone things like the Android-In-Window functionality. Updated versions of those are a lot harder to get. It might be able to get an updated Flash if we could find a Linux-based device out there that we could hack, but the others...? Good luck.
I'll be trying an upgrade to Ubuntu 10.04 at some later point in time, but I can't make any promises that it will succeed.
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So flash is not available in 11.04?
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So flash is not available in 11.04?
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NVIDIA might provide one to some of its OEM/ODM customers, but I don't think they publicly distribute Flash for public consumption. I expect it'll be the same in this case - if we could somehow get our hands on a leak of Flash for Ubuntu 10.10 or 11.04, we might be able to get something working, but otherwise, we're pretty much out of luck.
Depending on what kind of performance gains there are, this could be awesome. Although you wouldn't directly replace it, you'd be better off making a custom "distro" for the atrix using bits and pieces from webtop and combining them with the nvidia build.
Does anyone know exactly how the webtop environment boots? Important thing being the kernel. If it runs similar to a chroot you'd need a custom kernel as well.
Look up tegra on wikipedia we have 200 it says.
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http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/debian/2011-04-18/
http://markit.dyndns.org/ac100/
http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/
http://paulfedora.wordpress.com/
http://ac100.163.ru/firmware/ubuntu/rootfs_11_04.tar.gz
theirs no massive difference between 200 and 250 as far as i know
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http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/debian/2011-04-18/
http://markit.dyndns.org/ac100/
http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/
http://paulfedora.wordpress.com/
http://ac100.163.ru/firmware/ubuntu/rootfs_11_04.tar.gz
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What is all this?
Debian arm. Nvidia is optimizing for tegra (gpu driver included)... not just arm
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DJ_Steve said:
theirs no massive difference between 200 and 250 as far as i know
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There's no such thing as a Tegra 200 chip! Whenever it is referred to that way it is the because it's part of the 200 SERIES. Each being near identical with different clock speeds and possible some specific optimisations for the 3D models.
The Atrix has a Tegra 250 AP20H.
Not sure if this should go in the development section or here due to this being purely speculation...
I know this is light-years beyond happening anytime soon, but I'm inclined to think that this could possibly make a native Ubuntu installation possible. The Galaxy Tab 2 does indeed use the OMAP 4430, which is documented here,
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP/
Is there anything on our tablets that might prevent this type of thing from happening, like a locked boot section or hardware limitations? It also mentions drivers for SGX hardware, possibly referring to the PowerVR SGX540?
This seems to good to be true. Could this be to complex for an enthusiast with little coding experience to accomplish? I'm really intrigued by this and would like to give it a try; where would I begin?
Wow. That would be amazing to have it running natively.
I'd run it. At least for a week or two.
How much difference is there between the Sasmung GT-P31XX and these Beagle boards?
http://beagleboard.org/
How much do we know about the P31XX's boot process?
UPDATE: Sucks that's theres no Fastboot; there goes that option,
but the website w/ all the documentation appears to have prebuilt images made. Possible to work from that?
Hi all,
Is LineageOS planning on continuing support for Shield through the new releases in 2019? I understand that there's some rumors circulating about the chipset specifications as well as the question of the new Pro retaining all hardware and only having an overclocked CPU, so I assume this all needs to be looked into before discussions begin. Would be great to get out of the "walled Garden" sooner than later.