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As all us Diamond owners know all too well, we are dealing with a pathetically small amount of main memory. I've got virtually no aftermarket apps installed, and my main storage memory only has about 20MB left.
Two Q's
1. Is it possible to uninstall bundled apps? When I go to "Remove Programs" I only see the apps/cabs that I've installed aftermarket.
2. Is it adviseable/possible to install apps to the internal storage card? I've always been under the impression that programs should go in the "partition" where ...\Windows resides, but that may not be true.
Thanks.
1. yes it is possible if u cook your own rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782
2. why not ? (you wore wrong )
ajd6c8 said:
2. Is it adviseable/possible to install apps to the internal storage card? I've always been under the impression that programs should go in the "partition" where ...\Windows resides, but that may not be true.
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Every app I install goes in the Internal Storage because, well, what's the point of having 4GB of memory and not using it? I did the same with my previous XDA IIi; everything went onto the external memory card and it's never caused any problems.
cool, sometimes it's good to be wrong!
no way am I cooking my own ROM though. I would totally find a way to screw that up.
no other way to remove pre-installed apps?
and additionaly why install apps??? I have quite a long time apps folders on my internal storage with shortcuts in windows folder and they WORK so I saved space and as bonus doesnt screw up system with aditional installs after HR...
kultus said:
and additionaly why install apps??? I have quite a long time apps folders on my internal storage with shortcuts in windows folder and they WORK so I saved space and as bonus doesnt screw up system with aditional installs after HR...
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bingo boingo!
Install apps onto the internal storage and create shortcuts in \windows with total commander. It saves memory space and also headache from reinstalling apps after flashing a new ROM.
Sorry to post such a noob question on these boards.
I found this forum to be the most active in regards to the Xperia Play so thought I'd set up home here for a while.
I have the 16GB card that came with my PLAY, and even though when I install an app/game, I use the 'move to SD card', my internal storage is very low (getting a message). It's like 20mb or something left. I have gone through all the apps and moved everything that can to SD Card.
I am new to Android (from Ios), but thought this would be ok as everything could be installed on the SD Card, but my internal storage keeps going down anyway.
So this is going to greatly limit the number of games/apps I can install even though I have plenty of SD card space?
Cheers.
Do you know how to use adb?
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Do you know how to use the search function on this forum?
AndroHero said:
Do you know how to use adb?
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No.
DeadlyDazza said:
Do you know how to use the search function on this forum?
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Yes, strange question.
Red_Kop said:
No.
Yes, strange question.
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Google adb, learn its basic functions and how to use it, then from adb shell, use the command pm SetInstallLocation 2, this will force all apps and libs to be moveable to the sd card, i have 200+ apps n games on my play and still 70mb of internal storage
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Thankyou AndroHero for you helpful reply.
Can I ask if there are any adverse effects or risks using ADB?
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Do you know how not to be rude?
Careful about moving apps to the SD card. A lot of apps don't like it at all and will stop functioning completely. Apps that want to be on all the time, for example (Trillian, Tweetdeck, etc...) will just be killed every so often and you'll wonder why you never got that message on MSN or why you didn't get that DM from Twitter. Any app that has widgets will break the widgets completely when moved to the SD card.
It's one of those things I discovered that no one seems to talk about.
Red_Kop said:
Thankyou AndroHero for you helpful reply.
Can I ask if there are any adverse effects or risks using ADB?
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No, adb stands for android debug bridge, is basically a way for you to comunicate with your device remotely using a pc. Like another poster has mentioned, becareful what you move any app with a widget you want to use, or any app you wish to start on boot or sync need to stay on the internal storage
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zerojay said:
Careful about moving apps to the SD card. A lot of apps don't like it at all and will stop functioning completely. Apps that want to be on all the time, for example (Trillian, Tweetdeck, etc...) will just be killed every so often and you'll wonder why you never got that message on MSN or why you didn't get that DM from Twitter. Any app that has widgets will break the widgets completely when moved to the SD card.
It's one of those things I discovered that no one seems to talk about.
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I uninstalled trillian after google gave me the ip of a computer that accessed my email, i googled it and it came up as trillian.
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You probably had Google Talk enabled on Trillian.
thanks
Hi! I have a Sony Xperia Play
Phone details:
Model - R800i
Android Version - 2.3.4
Kernel Version - 2.6.32.9-perf [email protected] #1
Build - 4.0.2.A.0.42
My internal storage is very low (getting a message). I have gone through all the apps and moved everything that can to SD Card.
I have heard about Titanium Backup root, DroidSail Super App2SD, adb, Link2SD and so on.
The methods above can let me move those unmovable apps to the SD card.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of them? How do they compare? Which method is safer or more reliable? Which method can move more apps?
If you know, please let me know, thanks.
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I got this information from the official Link2SD website, this is comparing Native apps2SD to Link2SD, I don't know how Link2SD compared with Titanium Backup root, DroidSail Super App2SD, adb and so on. If you know, please let me know, thanks.
(Native apps2sd
Starting with Android 2.2 (Froyo) Google introduced native apps2SD.
This method moves
* apk file on Android 2.2
* apk + lib files on Android 2.3+
into a secure folder on your SD card in the main FAT partition.
It is the easiest method because it doesn't require you to partition your sdcard and root privilige.
It has some disadvantages though.
First disadvantage is that application files are just stored on the sdcard's main FAT partition.
When you enable USB mass storage to share files with your computer (or otherwise unmounts or removes the external storage), any application installed on the external storage and currently running is killed.
The system effectively becomes unaware of the application until mass storage is disabled and the external storage is remounted on the device.
Besides killing the application and making it unavailable to the user, this can break some types of applications in a more serious way.
So second disadvantage is that not all apps can be moved with native apps2sd method because of above reason.
In order for the application to consistently behave as expected, developer should not allow the application to be installed on the external storage if it uses any of the following features, due to the cited consequences when the external storage is unmounted:
Widgets, Services, Alarm Services, Live Wallpapers, Live Folders, Account Managers, Sync Adapters, Broadcast Receivers listening for "boot completed".
Force move (requires root);
You can force the apps move to SD card with native apps2SD even the application does not support moving as described above.
Link2SD and some other apps can force move apps if you have root priviliges. But, note that this can break some applications, as described above.
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Hi Guys,
My phone is rooted & I have deleted bloatwares.
Its showing low memory, is there any solution available??
How low is low in your case?
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PollPixx said:
How low is low in your case?
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I have deleted some apps & current status is 355mb used of 380mb
The DiskUsage is showing following apps:
Fast Five apk
22.7MB 22.6MB
Real Football data 7.44MB
14.3MB apk 6.87MB
ArcMedia apk
13.3MB 13.3MB
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Is there any way to use Apps2SD type of thing?
I assume you have moved those that can be to your sd card already?
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If not you have built in app2sd. Go into applications click on the app you want to move then click move to sd
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IntMD said:
I assume you have moved those that can be to your sd card already?
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I tried Apps2SD sometime back, but that was causing problem as some apps stopped working properly due to that
Also there are some strange stats I have, will share tomorrow..
xperiax10.awesome said:
I have deleted some apps & current status is 355mb used of 380mb
The DiskUsage is showing following apps:
Fast Five apk
22.7MB 22.6MB
Real Football data 7.44MB
14.3MB apk 6.87MB
ArcMedia apk
13.3MB 13.3MB
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Is there any way to use Apps2SD type of thing?
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May be a silly question but do you clean temp files of apps?
You can also try Move2SD Enabler from this post.
It allows you to move certain phone only apps to SD.
Eg. Fast 5 will become 264kb instead of 22.7mb on the ROM. The rest is installed to SDcard.
Remember to thank the guy if you do.
constin said:
You can also try Move2SD Enabler from this post.
It allows you to move certain phone only apps to SD.
Eg. Fast 5 will become 264kb instead of 22.7mb on the ROM. The rest is installed to SDcard.
Remember to thank the guy if you do.
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Hi, I will install this today, right now in office
But could you tell me whats is this application, I can't see this app in any market?? !!!
xperiax10.awesome said:
Hi, I will install this today, right now in office
But could you tell me whats is this application, I can't see this app in any market?? !!!
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It changes a string for the installation location to be on the sd card.
So that apps that normally install to rom can be installed to sd.
However, it's not retroactive. After you changed the installation location to external memory, you can manually move apps to sd by going to settings and applications.
It's on the market but that version only works on Froyo. This one works of on gingerbread.
constin said:
It changes a string for the installation location to be on the sd card.
So that apps that normally install to rom can be installed to sd.
However, it's not retroactive. After you changed the installation location to external memory, you can manually move apps to sd by going to settings and applications.
It's on the market but that version only works on Froyo. This one works of on gingerbread.
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THANKS button pressed
Simply use Titanium Backup to move applications to SD card...!!!
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Now my phone is using just 200mb/380mb
I have verified this problem with two different ICS ROMS. Apps seem to migrate to the SD Card. This breaks a number of apps, including Aldiko reader and many games.
I first encountered this with the Reloaded Rom 1.01; found that the same issue occurred after updating to 1.1. Did a clean install (Factory Reset, Wipe Cache, Wipe Dalvik cache, load ROM) for the Energy ROM and found that the same issue occurs.
Originally I blamed this on the Apps2SD function in ROM Toolbox; but the behavior repeats even without this.
The only solution that I have found is to install or reinstall the application, then to immediately set it to run on tablet, not SD card. Which is a pain to have to do.
Any thoughts?
In cyanogenmod settings there's settings for that under applications or if that doesn't work titanium backup can move apps
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DJ, you can manually try to move applications back from SD card under Apps then Move to SD card or Move to Tablet, and Titanium lets you restore apps, but unless I am missing something there is no way to set the default.
Can you clarify if I have missed something? And thanks.
koop1955 said:
DJ, you can manually try to move applications back from SD card under Apps then Move to SD card or Move to Tablet, and Titanium lets you restore apps, but unless I am missing something there is no way to set the default.
Can you clarify if I have missed something? And thanks.
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Sorry for being vague. in titanium if you go to the app and long press it gives you the extended options one is to move the app and all data to where ever you want it SD or memory.. and under setting like cyanogen settings or applications i cant remember it gives you the option for default app instal location
I'll see what I can find about default settings in ICS. Titanium does what the built-in ICS app manager does, which requires adjusting per app. I was hoping for something more, shall I say, elegant.
Anyway, "thanks" clicked and I am grateful for your help.
koop1955 said:
I'll see what I can find about default settings in ICS. Titanium does what the built-in ICS app manager does, which requires adjusting per app. I was hoping for something more, shall I say, elegant.
Anyway, "thanks" clicked and I am grateful for your help.
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lol thanks... just wondering dose it really affect that many apps i usually move all my games to sd anyways
Where's my water included! And I don't have a backup.. :-(
Will any apps run on the SD card
I have the same issue on the ICS Reloaded ROM. Many of my daughters games disappear. I have used Titanium to move them to internal storage. Currently every app I have on the KF is on internal storage because it was installed there by default or I moved it there so it wouldn't disappear. My question is do these ICS ROM's have an issue running any app from the SD or just certain ones? This whole mess is causing my internal storage to disappear.
What you wiped was not a "clean install." You didn't mention wiping /system. Possible old remnants from previous install screwing things up.
Requirements: You're play is rooted and ext2 partition is available on youre sd card.
1. Install Link2sd v2.0.2 from market.
The updated version allows you to convert system application to user apps. Thus, pre-install games can now be move to be user apps.
2. convert pre-install apps to be user apps, and create link to the application.
you will notice somehow an increase in the available internal memory.
I hope, I help somehow..
I apologize if others can't follow my information above. I included here the more detailed instructions for using link2sd, please see link :-D
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217578&highlight=dev+link2sd&page=5
cedie1001 said:
Requirements: You're play is rooted and ext2 partition is available on youre sd card.
1. Install Link2sd v2.0.2 from market.
The updated version allows you to convert system application to user apps. Thus, pre-install games can now be move to be user apps.
2. convert pre-install apps to be user apps, and create link to the application.
you will notice somehow an increase in the available internal memory.
I hope, I help somehow..
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Root Explorer can do the same thing too. I used it to get rid of the God awful games preinstalled on my phone
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How would I know if the ext2 partition is available on my SD card?
neverwinter said:
How would I know if the ext2 partition is available on my SD card?
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Use root explorer and there should be a folder sd-ext check in there
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I never worry about space on mine. If you are rooted, you can use DroidSail Super App2SD. Its free and it works perfectly. I have transferred every single game to SD and they all work perfectly (every game that came on the phone, every game I have ever downloaded). I am consistently at about 250MB free.
zektor said:
I never worry about space on mine. If you are rooted, you can use DroidSail Super App2SD. Its free and it works perfectly. I have transferred every single game to SD and they all work perfectly (every game that came on the phone, every game I have ever downloaded). I am consistently at about 250MB free.
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Thanks for telling me about that, there is no hassle with partitioning sd card now
Cool, i´ll try it. More internal memory!
I like it because if something did not work (I have not encountered a game or app that has not when moved) the option exists to move it BACK. It is very similar to an app I used to use on the Tapwave Zodiac back in the Palm days. One of the main reasons to have root on the Play is this app!
cedie1001 said:
Requirements: You're play is rooted and ext2 partition is available on youre sd card.
1. Install Link2sd v2.0.2 from market.
The updated version allows you to convert system application to user apps. Thus, pre-install games can now be move to be user apps.
2. convert pre-install apps to be user apps, and create link to the application.
you will notice somehow an increase in the available internal memory.
I hope, I help somehow..
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thank you for your update
but personally , i allways remove preinstalled apk by system-app-remover
does it can change the system apk to user apk , then move/link to SD ??
anybody tried that ?
mehdi.moha said:
thank you for your update
but personally , i allways remove preinstalled apk by system-app-remover
does it can change the system apk to user apk , then move/link to SD ??
anybody tried that ?
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yap!
i already done that.
system apk to user apk, and vice versa.
then link to SD
to those who want to partition their sd card to ext2 partition, simply download mini tool partition on youre pc, create partition (not more 1gb), it should be primary type and ext2.
i hope it helps
You can actually go up to ext4 without problem on this phone. Oh, and if you don't want to download a program to partition your sd card, and are confident in your adb abilities, look here.
OK...I think I just bricked my XPlay? When I tried to convert the Android Framework (I think that's what it's called) from system app to user app, my phone suddenly restarted, and is constantly restarting without getting into the UI at all... any idea what has happened here and how it can be fixed?
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OK...I think I just bricked my XPlay? When I tried to convert the Android Framework (I think that's what it's called) from system app to user app, my phone suddenly restarted, and is constantly restarting without getting into the UI at all... any idea what has happened here and how it can be fixed?
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The Android framework is like system32 for windows. Basically, don't mess with it. You're not bricked. Use FlashTool to reflash the .ftf file for your phone version.
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Thanks for letting me know. Will I loose all my info such as SMS, contacts, etc.? And where can I find info on how to reflash and get the correct .ftf for the phone?
Here is the FlashTool thread, and pretty much just search the Development subforum to find the thread that specifically deals with your phone model, whether it's x, i, at, or whatever else there is.
Flashing that .ftf will put you back to stock, so hope that you had your contacts backed up with your Google account. And SMS will be gone, as well as everything else that was personal.
Thanks a lot...it's unfortunate if I can't get my info back...
nvm
Sounds like you're not allowed to move that one.
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Thanks for the info...I got my phone working again... the firmware I flashed is much better than the previous that was installed. Everything runs faster, and PSX games run smoother and faster...