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hey guys. i was using the phone, browsing xda. saw on another board about neocore so went to download it from the market. while it downloaded i also downloaded nenamark and got it installed and ran it while neocore still said "installing"
i tried to stop the download but on market it said "installing" in grey and couldn't cancel. then went to applications manager to force close market and clear data/cache, and all the apps were showing as "computing" and never computed. i couldn't clear the data/cache from market, it said recalculating and stayed there.
i tried updating some other apps through market and all of them stayed on installing.
so i went back to a backup i had made earlier today. wiped data/cache/dalvik twice, nand restore.
same issue. everything stuck on computing. none of my sd apps are showing in LPP's drawer. nothing opens from the homescreens either. in sd card storage the card shows as mounted but when i try to unmount it force closes.
can't access the memory card through the phone but can through Amon_RA's MS Toggle function.
any clues what happened?!
i'm going to try reformatting the card, but this is a new 16gb that i've had for about a month or so only.
any ideas are great!
EDIT: moved everything out of the sd card. reformatted. put the files back. same issue. now i wiped cache and dalvik again and reinstalled netarchy's kernel. booting up now...
ANYONE?!
BUMP...
PLEASE GUYS NEED HELP HERE.
i've wiped and flashed, reformatted the memory card. reinstalled the kernel. same result.
what is missing?!
the memory card is working fine other than within the phone. works in amon-ra ms-toggle and on my computer.
HELP!!!
BUMP.
57 views and no answers? come on i know someone here must know what's going on.
I tried flashing my rom against over this one without wiping data (hoping not to lose my apps) and the apps stayed there. but after a reboot the same situation happened.
i wiped and restored my nand backup again. same thing. the phone "sees" the sd card but wont read from it. twice yesterday night after a long time (maybe 1-2 hours) it would suddenly see all the apps and everything would work. then i rebooted, and back to the same issue. then it picked up the apps again. i unmounted the sd card and remounted, and again the same issue.
it's all connected to the phone not accessing anything that's on the SD card, yet not giving any errors when it's "Preparing SD card..." or when I go in to see the storage information.
the memory card is accessible through amon_ra and when I take it out of the phone. reads/writes/formats just fine. so the memory card is fine.
i'm 100% sure it's a software issue. something is messing up and I can't pinpoint it. is there a file/process responsible for loading apps/dependencies from the sd card?
i can make phone calls, texts, etc. everything that's on the phone's memory works. so i'm being patient trying to find a solution to the problem (i.e. keep using my current rom and data) without starting all over.
let's work this out.
I'll buy a beer to whoever can help me fix this
Have u tried deleting the backups from a aosp rom? Try it to see if it works. Sign into ur google account. Go into the privacy setting and Deselect automatic restore and uncheck the other option.
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Some how you screwed your symlinks.
Put a good nandroid on your old sdcard. Restore your from it. Down load Titanium back up from market, DO NOT MOVE IT TO THE SDCARD. Test it. Unmount the old sdcard. Shutdown, swap sdcards, reboot, run market doctor from Titanium Backup. You will then have to reload all your apps from market.
You could do the same from a complete cold reinitialization of the phone. Just skip the restore and replace it with a complete wipe, without the 16gb, but with the original sdcard. Proceed from there with the Loading of Tibackup from market...
casual864 said:
Have u tried deleting the backups from a aosp rom? Try it to see if it works. Sign into ur google account. Go into the privacy setting and Deselect automatic restore and uncheck the other option.
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Ok I deselected both options now what? If I wipe and restore my sense nandroid don't I go back to the same thing?
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willy900wonka said:
Some how you screwed your symlinks.
Put a good nandroid on your old sdcard. Restore your from it. Down load Titanium back up from market, DO NOT MOVE IT TO THE SDCARD. Test it. Unmount the old sdcard. Shutdown, swap sdcards, reboot, run market doctor from Titanium Backup. You will then have to reload all your apps from market.
You could do the same from a complete cold reinitialization of the phone. Just skip the restore and replace it with a complete wipe, without the 16gb, but with the original sdcard. Proceed from there with the Loading of Tibackup from market...
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If nothing else works I'll try your idea but it defeats the purpose of my post. I have over 200 apps, a good portion of which are not from the market...
I need to fix the problem from within my current rom...
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willy900wonka said:
Some how you screwed your symlinks.
Put a good nandroid on your old sdcard. Restore your from it. Down load Titanium back up from market, DO NOT MOVE IT TO THE SDCARD. Test it. Unmount the old sdcard. Shutdown, swap sdcards, reboot, run market doctor from Titanium Backup. You will then have to reload all your apps from market.
You could do the same from a complete cold reinitialization of the phone. Just skip the restore and replace it with a complete wipe, without the 16gb, but with the original sdcard. Proceed from there with the Loading of Tibackup from market...
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Market Doctor found no recoverable links.
when I load Titanium Backup it says it's finding 310 user apps but only 61 are showing under backup/restore. all my non-working apps are showing there greyed out with a line through them. so titanium is acknowledging they're not installed...how do i install them?!
EDIT: this didnt add any new links to Market. but even trying to install the links that were already there (for paid apps), everything still gets stuck on installing. with the other sd card i was able to install titanium backup and root explorer. before i changed the cards...any new ideas?
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Market Doctor found no recoverable links.
when I load Titanium Backup it says it's finding 310 user apps but only 61 are showing under backup/restore. all my non-working apps are showing there greyed out with a line through them. so titanium is acknowledging they're not installed...how do i install them?!
EDIT: this didnt add any new links to Market. but even trying to install the links that were already there (for paid apps), everything still gets stuck on installing. with the other sd card i was able to install titanium backup and root explorer. before i changed the cards...any new ideas?
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The gray, lined out apps just mean that the apps are not installed.click on menu then on batch then screen down to restore all installed apps and data. If an app will not install, it Is stuck without a market link. Look in your download folder on your sd card. Use astro file explorer. You will see several files called download, download1, download2, etc. these are all of the files you downloaded that did not install. Quick click on the files and the manager option will pop up.select it and your file will install. Delete these files after you are done. Use market doctor to fix your links. HTH.
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frankpreyes said:
The gray, lined out apps just mean that the apps are not installed.click on menu then on batch then screen down to restore all installed apps and data. If an app will not install, it Is stuck without a market link. Look in your download folder on your sd card. Use astro file explorer. You will see several files called download, download1, download2, etc. these are all of the files you downloaded that did not install. Quick click on the files and the manager option will pop up.select it and your file will install. Delete these files after you are done. Use market doctor to fix your links. HTH.
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i had already tried that. under batch all the restore options have a 0 next to them and when i run them they say batch completed but nothing changed. there is no .apk files in my downloads folder because these arent files that i downloaded but didnt install. these are 200+ apps that i've had for days, weeks, some even months, that now aren't seen by the phone.
anyone else?
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EDIT: fixed my issue. it looks like it came down to a bad file on the sd card. reformatted the sd card again, put back my data files, music, etc, but no android files. then wiped and restored the same backup that wasn't working. worked. reloaded apps from market, reloaded the ones that weren't from market that I had saved on my computer. and since the nandroid worked I have the folder links to all other apps i'm missing so i can download them as i need them.
I'm buying myself a beer!
ive been trying to figure this out since yesterday but i am completely lost and really need help..
this started yesterday. i had my phone connected with adb and pulled some files (LatinIME.apk, framework-res.apk). i did not push or delete any. around the same time i download fx camera. all the work i did was actually just on the computer. the only thing i did on the phone around that time was use root explorer to check the name of the .apk for fx camera.
im not sure if any of that could possibly mean anything but i thought maybe it was worth mentioning.
here are the symptoms. right after i was done the phone was acting sluggish and crappy (it always does when i disconnect from usb since i switched to froshedyo v10) so i rebooted. upon booting up, 90% of apps were missing. i didnt feel like using titanium backup to manually "ok" each install, so i opted for a fairly recent NAND backup to restore to. i did but upon booting up, the same apps were missing.. very weird right? i know they were there when i made the backup.. so now i decided i had to use titanium. but when i began i noticed that it wouldnt install any app. it would hang on the "installing" screen forever. i rebooted and this time tried an app from the market, only to have the same results.
i did try wiping everything and starting fresh (with froshedyo v10). a strange thing happened. after logging in and setting up the basics i left it alone to restore the apps. when i checked later i had the notification, "applications partially restored". i never had that before.. it seemed like maybe a few more apps were there, but not much. i was mostly in the same boat. and again, titanium backup and market would not install any apps..
please help.. whats going on??
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i wiped everything and tried to start fresh with a brand new copy of nonsensikal 16.1. no apps were restored, and i am unable to install or uninstall any app on the phone. it will just hang on the installing/uninstalling screen.
i have done multiple wipes and flashes, testing each time to see if anything is working, but it has not worked once. i can not install or uninstall any apps.
Were you using Apps2sd? I wonder if it could be something with that. Especially if your rom seems to be fine. Is everything else showing up on your sd card?
the file manager on the phone shows all my sd card contents just fine.
i believe when i first installed this rom about a week ago i did find an option somewhere in settings that said "choose location to install apps" (i chose external) and "allow moving of apps to external" (i chose yes).
Try downloading Eris market fix from the market. See if that works.
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Try downloading Eris market fix from the market. See if that works.
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oooh, i would love to download that app from the market if it might fix my inability to download and install apps. if only i was able to download and install apps..
Oops, my bad. I just skimmed over your post and saw 90% of apps gone. So even if you had an apk on your sdcard it wont let you install it?
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U could flash the vending.apk that should bring back your market
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Oops, my bad. I just skimmed over your post and saw 90% of apps gone. So even if you had an apk on your sdcard it wont let you install it?
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HTC Incredible 2.3.1
flash this through recovery
mindnumbinglyfun said:
ive been trying to figure this out since yesterday but i am completely lost and really need help..
this started yesterday. i had my phone connected with adb and pulled some files (LatinIME.apk, framework-res.apk). i did not push or delete any. around the same time i download fx camera. all the work i did was actually just on the computer. the only thing i did on the phone around that time was use root explorer to check the name of the .apk for fx camera.
im not sure if any of that could possibly mean anything but i thought maybe it was worth mentioning.
here are the symptoms. right after i was done the phone was acting sluggish and crappy (it always does when i disconnect from usb since i switched to froshedyo v10) so i rebooted. upon booting up, 90% of apps were missing. i didnt feel like using titanium backup to manually "ok" each install, so i opted for a fairly recent NAND backup to restore to. i did but upon booting up, the same apps were missing.. very weird right? i know they were there when i made the backup.. so now i decided i had to use titanium. but when i began i noticed that it wouldnt install any app. it would hang on the "installing" screen forever. i rebooted and this time tried an app from the market, only to have the same results.
i did try wiping everything and starting fresh (with froshedyo v10). a strange thing happened. after logging in and setting up the basics i left it alone to restore the apps. when i checked later i had the notification, "applications partially restored". i never had that before.. it seemed like maybe a few more apps were there, but not much. i was mostly in the same boat. and again, titanium backup and market would not install any apps..
please help.. whats going on??
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I don't think you have a market problem...it sounds like an sd card issue which would explain alot of the symptoms including issues when unmounting from pc. If all your apps are installed on the sd and the card doesn't mount right they will "dissapear" as you have described. Try changing the setting to install apps back to internal and then apps should install. If apps install after you do that it probably means the sdcard is corrupted so you will need to back up the files on your sd and then reformat the card. PLEASE remember to back up the sd card before reformatting since it has your nand backups on it. The market fix is only a fix for apps not showing in the market not on the phone.
lol its ok rhamej.
i think i should clarify though that i do have a market. it may be worth noting that i used to have a blue themed market, which during this problem seems to have reverted to the stock green market. but i do have a market.
when i try to install from the market, it just kind of stalls when i accept the terms and permissions needed by the app. like, when i click the final "ok" which should then lead to the app actually beginning to download, it just stops. doesnt freeze the market or FC, its almost like the button is unresponsive.
when i try to install an app via file manager from sd card, it hangs on the "installing" screen. same with titanium backup.
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i couldnt stand not having my apps so i did a NAND back to nonsensikal. my apps were all restored this time but im still having problems installing.
from the sd card: hangs on install.
from the market: now will download, but hangs on install.
Conap said:
I don't think you have a market problem...it sounds like an sd card issue which would explain alot of the symptoms including issues when unmounting from pc. If all your apps are installed on the sd and the card doesn't mount right they will "dissapear" as you have described. Try changing the setting to install apps back to internal and then apps should install. If apps install after you do that it probably means the sdcard is corrupted so you will need to back up the files on your sd and then reformat the card. PLEASE remember to back up the sd card before reformatting since it has your nand backups on it. The market fix is only a fix for apps not showing in the market not on the phone.
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i did change that one setting back to internal, and disallowed moving apps to external. it didnt seem to make a difference though. i will take your advice on backing up the data and reformatting though. thanks.
mindnumbinglyfun said:
lol its ok rhamej.
i think i should clarify though that i do have a market. it may be worth noting that i used to have a blue themed market, which during this problem seems to have reverted to the stock green market. but i do have a market.
when i try to install from the market, it just kind of stalls when i accept the terms and permissions needed by the app. like, when i click the final "ok" which should then lead to the app actually beginning to download, it just stops. doesnt freeze the market or FC, its almost like the button is unresponsive.
when i try to install an app via file manager from sd card, it hangs on the "installing" screen. same with titanium backup.
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i couldnt stand not having my apps so i did a NAND back to nonsensikal. my apps were all restored this time but im still having problems installing.
from the sd card: hangs on install.
from the market: now will download, but hangs on install.
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we must have been posting at the same time but these all still sound like what i mentioned in my above post. Your apps are back with nonsensikal because they probably weren't installed on sd when you made the nand for that rom.
mindnumbinglyfun said:
i did change that one setting back to internal, and disallowed moving apps to external. it didnt seem to make a difference though. i will take your advice on backing up the data and reformatting though. thanks.
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lol posting at same time again...you are probably typing right now...try rebooting the phone also after the setting has been changed....for some reason froyo depends too much in my opinion on the sd card and really can cause issues with it.
quick question. what format should my micro sd card be in? i know i formatted it right around the time i got it, to FAT32. im assuming thats correct but i would like to double check. google isnt answering my question fast enough..
still no progress.
i wiped everything, flashed a new nonsensikal 16.1. apps didnt automatically come back. i can not install or uninstall apps on the phone. they all hang on the installing/uninstalling screen.
how could this have happened? how can i fix it? i will gladly do a more thorough wipe. i wiped data and davlick. what else could i do to completely reset my phone to fix this problem? that is assuming that there is no other ideas of options.. i hope there is!
edit: in regards to previous ideas, i reformatted my sd card (FAT32) and replaced all the files.
mindnumbinglyfun said:
still no progress.
i wiped everything, flashed a new nonsensikal 16.1. apps didnt automatically come back. i can not install or uninstall apps on the phone. they all hang on the installing/uninstalling screen.
how could this have happened? how can i fix it? i will gladly do a more thorough wipe. i wiped data and davlick. what else could i do to completely reset my phone to fix this problem? that is assuming that there is no other ideas of options.. i hope there is!
edit: in regards to previous ideas, i reformatted my sd card (FAT32) and replaced all the files.
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You could try the flashback 21 file here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792026
That should take you back to stock and replace your custom recovery with the default one. You could then re-root. I don't know if that's what you want, but that would be about as complete of a reset as you could get as far as I know.
Does anyone else know if this is the best option? I would hate to mislead...
I had a problem similar to this after I dropped my phone. I could not install any apps (market or .apk) and reading of my SD card was spotty at best. What fixed it for me was first deleting the .android-secure folder on the sd card. [NOTE!: this may delete some/all apps/app data you have so I hope you have a backup]. I have no idea why but the .android-secure was not happy at all ;] I believe you have to delete it on a computer because android file managers just can't do it.
mindnumbinglyfun said:
still no progress.
i wiped everything, flashed a new nonsensikal 16.1. apps didnt automatically come back. i can not install or uninstall apps on the phone. they all hang on the installing/uninstalling screen.
how could this have happened? how can i fix it? i will gladly do a more thorough wipe. i wiped data and davlick. what else could i do to completely reset my phone to fix this problem? that is assuming that there is no other ideas of options.. i hope there is!
edit: in regards to previous ideas, i reformatted my sd card (FAT32) and replaced all the files.
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Did you put all your files back on your sd card after reformatting it? I would try reformatting the card and then see if it works before you put your files back on. Like the previous poster said the android_secure folder could be messed up and if your copying it back could still cause issues.
dbnaruto said:
I had a problem similar to this after I dropped my phone. I could not install any apps (market or .apk) and reading of my SD card was spotty at best. What fixed it for me was first deleting the .android-secure folder on the sd card. [NOTE!: this may delete some/all apps/app data you have so I hope you have a backup]. I have no idea why but the .android-secure was not happy at all ;] I believe you have to delete it on a computer because android file managers just can't do it.
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There is a link talking about doing this on the op of my floyo rom thread
well that android_secure thing seems to have been the problem! thank you guys very much! i just deleted it and rebooted and i am now able to install and uninstall apps, both from the sd card and market.
it got to the point where i couldnt connect via usb unless i was in recovery so things were getting pretty frustrating. im glad its over. any guesses what might have caused this craziness?
I not sure if this is the right area, if not, i apologize, feel free to move and/or flame. lol
Anyway, I'm running fr008 liberated froyo and all of a sudden my apps stopped showing up in the app drawer. the ones i had an icon for on the home screen would show up, but be the default little gear icon thing, on click, nothing would happen (market also because that icon and wouldnt work). I tried wiping dalvik cache, cache, and finally ended up just trying to restore nandroid. Wellll.... Now the market is gone totally, but the strange thing, is that the apps show up under settings->applications, but not in the drawer at all.
I searched on this site, but honestly...I'm not even sure what words to use, everytnhing just wasnt relevant to my search. I'll be happy to continue searching (and i'm still browsing through pages), but maybe someone has had this issue and can either help me out, or point me in the right direction. Thanks.
Try a different home app. LauncherPro is the best so far in my opinion.
Well, Ideally I would like to keep sense. that's why i had chosen the rom that i did instead of CM. I just don't understand why they were there working just fine, then all of a sudden they werent. Worse comes to worse I just flash cm7 and start over, i'm just giving it a couple days before i do that.
Astro also didn't show up, and i tried doing the .zip update method through clockwork, but i move the files over, then reset the phone, and they don't show up on the sdcard...So i reboot and check for the gapp.zip on the sdcard, and its no longer there. Wtf is going on?
**edit: for some reason the phone reset and the market showed up again. Obviously my apps are in my market account, but they still show up under settings->application. I still don't know *WHY* this happened, and i dont want to reload everything on it and lose the info i had, especially if its going to be a recurring thing.
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Well, Ideally I would like to keep sense. that's why i had chosen the rom that i did instead of CM. I just don't understand why they were there working just fine, then all of a sudden they werent. Worse comes to worse I just flash cm7 and start over, i'm just giving it a couple days before i do that.
Astro also didn't show up, and i tried doing the .zip update method through clockwork, but i move the files over, then reset the phone, and they don't show up on the sdcard...So i reboot and check for the gapp.zip on the sdcard, and its no longer there. Wtf is going on?
**edit: for some reason the phone reset and the market showed up again. Obviously my apps are in my market account, but they still show up under settings->application. I still don't know *WHY* this happened, and i dont want to reload everything on it and lose the info i had, especially if its going to be a recurring thing.
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This is a total WTF! Since you are running FR008, are you using DT A2Sd to store your apps on the SD card? If not, you may want to look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790786
Once you enable A2SD by creating a EXT partition on your SD card, you can use A2SD to check the apps that are installed.
Yeah, my sd card has the ext partition from when i had the stock rom (trying to use dt's a2sd with that, got fed up and flashed fr008, haha).
But I only had a couple apps on the SD card, and strangely enough, those were the only ones showing in my app drawer. (now they aren't...)
But I'll check that link and see whats going on with it, i'm just lost. haha.
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Yeah, my sd card has the ext partition from when i had the stock rom (trying to use dt's a2sd with that, got fed up and flashed fr008, haha).
But I only had a couple apps on the SD card, and strangely enough, those were the only ones showing in my app drawer. (now they aren't...)
But I'll check that link and see whats going on with it, i'm just lost. haha.
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If you had an EXT partition on the SD card when you flashed FR008 (which has DT A2SD built-in) will use it. Sounds like you may want to run the "a2sd check" command in the terminal emulator to see what's going on?
Hmm. I ran a2sd check:
it says "ext partition found, but not mounted, your rom may not be steup to run apps2sd. xxxxx
your partition may be ext4 but rom may not support ext4"
also, my apps are no longer showing up in market...i'm cursed. lol
a little update.
It seems my sd card was screwy. I swapped it for another one temporarily (copy/pasted the contents though, that didnt work, so i formatted it). The phone seems to work fine, but for some reason, my apps still show up in settings > applications. But no where else. I can't use astro to back them up, and I'm not sure what else i can possibly try (aside from wiping everything and installing a new rom, any suggestions on what rom, i'm thinking cm7, but i want sense ui still).
I'm just worried that its something *I* did and i dont want to do it again.
I had a similar issue before...and what I would do is:
1. Factory Wipe, Wipe Caches and Format both system and SDCard with an ext partition
2. Flash the ROM of your choice, then GAPPS
3. Start the process of setting everything up again.
It's the nature of the beast when using DT A2SD...when the card goes, so does everything on it, including your apps. It would be a great idea to back up everything on your phone (nandroid) then copy the nandroid backup (in the Clockworks folder on your SDCard) to a safe place (not on the SDCard) so that when this happens again you have a backup of your phone that doesn't die with the card. Don't worry this doesn't happen often, but a you see, it can happen.
Yeah, i sort of guessed it had to do with the sd card (had a small glitch about 3 days prior to this, with a program that was on the sd card). I just don't know why the apps that werent on the sd card went with the sd card, but showed up in settings -> applications still (though i could do nothing with them, and if i tried to "clear data" on them, it would fail). I flashed CM7 last night and started setting everything up again. I'm going to do the whole nandroid backup, and manual backup where i can pull the apks out of the backup, so i can have a script to reinstall everything quickly when I inevitably change roms again. lol (as you can see, i've been a member for some years now, started back with the titan/ppc6800)
anyway, if you didnt read all that above, i'll summarize:
THANKS.
i had the a similar problem my apps werent showing in my drawer and my widgets on my home screens kept saying problem loading widget so i wiped everything reinstalled my rom switched to adw ex and everything has been fine since
As the title suggests on my N1 i keep running out of memory space. I use APP2SD but not all of the apps can get transfered. So what can i do to fix this problem? Some apps like Shazam i need,K-9,handcent, Flextp, but apps like Quickoffice and books i dont need but those wont delete.Any advice?
Install Titanium Backup.
Use to to either uninstall the apps you dont want (including ones built into ROM if youre rooted) AND/OR us it to force apps to the SD card.
KidTech said:
but apps like Quickoffice and books i dont need but those wont delete.
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Since they're in /system/app, you cannot delete them without rooting. And even if you can delete them, it won't help you to solve your problem. If you want many application without having space problem, you need to root, install custom rom, use Apps2SD(it will install applications to SD card Ext partition) or Data2Ext.
I'm in the same boat as well. I am consistently hovering around 21-22 mb free. With all the recent updates, it eats up all my memory.
Freaking flash is still 12 mb, google maps is 9.7 mb, music 7.7 etc. Half the google apps I don't even use such as books 4.3 mb and goggles 3.8 mb.
I have to uninstall a few programs every once in a while so I can update another...uggh I guess Google didn't see this coming when they made the n1!
I'm with you. It's annoying as crap.
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Try to see if you can find move2SD Enabler (not sure if it's on the market). It forces your apps to be able to move to SD card. It requires you to be rooted so I'm not sure if that's up your alley or not
Really rooting is your only solution. With root you can have hundreds of MB free, or even cyanogen ROM lets you move all apps giving me 120 MB free with my 89 apps installed.
RogerPodacter said:
Really rooting is your only solution. With root you can have hundreds of MB free, or even cyanogen ROM lets you move all apps giving me 120 MB free with my 89 apps installed.
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Are you using dalvik to sd too? Im using dtapps2sd and i get between 18--23mb of free space on any given day. My sd card is too slow for dalvik to sd, and anything below 20mb and i stop getting things like email notifications.
If you are rooted... and if you have a decent SD Card (I just use the one that came with mine). I would suggest putting something on it that supports Darktremor. I swear by it for sure... after setting up an sd-ext... installing Darktremor and then running cachesd... I have tons of programs on my phone and I constantly put more on and have not had any issues since. Before, I would run out of memory even with dta2sd. I started removing stuff I didn't use often then decided to finally try out cache2sd and... now... no more problems. It seems like it might be a bit slower on the startup than before (though I never tested to see if it actually is or by how much) but after that it seems to run smooth as silk for me with tons of room to spare. My sd-ext is only 512 MB but you can modify it as you like with the proper partitioning utilities.
Though... this suggestion comes with the advice that you might want to know a bit about what it is I am suggesting before you actually do it. Read into it before you try anything.
Others have lightly touched on it, but most of the google apps are installed directly to the /system partition which is separate from where your downloaded apps are installed. Really, the only way to get additional space is by rooting your phone. The easiest thing to do would be to get Titanium Backup and merge all the updates for system apps back into the ROM. Whenever a system app gets updated, the updated program chews up your available space unless you merge it back into the ROM.
There are also additional options like apps2sdext, but they get a little more advanced as it requires partitioning the sdcard.
liam.lah said:
Are you using dalvik to sd too? Im using dtapps2sd and i get between 18--23mb of free space on any given day. My sd card is too slow for dalvik to sd, and anything below 20mb and i stop getting things like email notifications.
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honestly i am lazy, so the only thing i did was use the stock cyanogen allow any app move to sd setting. and it really made a difference. i guess if i wanted to install games that are 200 mb then this wouldnt help. but this method gave like 110mb free so i was happy enough with that.
i never researched the cache2sd or darktremor's method.
also in the past i did use root explorer to move some things from system/ to data/ etc to maximize as much as possible.
There is actually a method that can force enable "Move to SD" button for all apps. Check this link for more info
http://androidforums.com/desire-tips-tricks/160560-force-apps-install-sd-without-root.html
However, please be reminded that this implementation is actually based on the Google's app2sd.
So if you move apps with Widgets to SD, they will fail to launch the next time you reboot your phone
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bassmadrigal said:
Really, the only way to get additional space is by rooting your phone. The easiest thing to do would be to get Titanium Backup and merge all the updates for system apps back into the ROM. Whenever a system app gets updated, the updated program chews up your available space unless you merge it back into the ROM.
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Finally! This works, thanks for the tip. It was soooo obvious, but I had never used Ti for this. Tap&hold and choose "Integrate update into ROM".
I just did that to Facebook, Twitter and Google Maps & got over 25 megs new space immediately.
liam.lah said:
Are you using dalvik to sd too? Im using dtapps2sd and i get between 18--23mb of free space on any given day. My sd card is too slow for dalvik to sd, and anything below 20mb and i stop getting things like email notifications.
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Any card besides pure crap is fast enough for Dalvik2SD.
And this thread is absolutely pointless. This was discussed like 100000 times. There's ONE real solution - and it's A2SD, Apps2EXT, Data2EXT, and another zillion of names for the same thing - rooting, repartitioning SD card, and moving the apps and Dalvik-cache to the EXT partition. All the other solutions are temporary, and while giving some more air to breathe, don't really solve anything for anyone that downloads enough apps.
FAQ, question 9.
Jack, I'm looking into tweaking my partition table to make use of the/cache that hardly gets used in CM.
Do you know much about it?
My biggest problem is getting solid information on the N1 partitions, since I've stumbled across conflicting info...
Any help/guidance would be appreciated!
I guess the most guidance is in the Unrevoked site, the guys who achieved S-OFF on Desire. They have a bootloader that can change the partition sizes, and there's a post on Desire forum with the explanations of booting kernel while switching the partition sizes by passing boot parameters to the kernel.
The problem with Nexus is that unlike Desire, the bootloader will still see the original partitions. So if you change the recovery and the kernel to run with different values, overriding default partitioning (which you can do - it's explained for Desire, I remember reading a thread with explanations there), the bootloader won't play the game. Boot and Recovery will have to remain in place, otherwise the phone won't boot. And if anything goes wrong and the recovery won't boot one day - you'll need to repartition the ROM from the bootloader again and install stock to get going. Lots of work.
What you can do, and what might be better/easier to do, is just to link part of your ROM there - install system apps to /cache, for example, or such. Just remember not to wipe it then
Thanks for the heads up, Jack!
Still got a lot of reading to do on this one...
I have around 168 apps and with 'round 32mbs available ...FYI I am using CyanogenMod
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I have over 200 apps with 42+ mb free... I still wanna play with my partitions... xD
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Any card besides pure crap is fast enough for Dalvik2SD.
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I did use dalvik 2sd for a while, I believe I'm using a 16gb kingston class2. While the phone was still certainly usable, there was a noticeable decrease in performance.
After restoring apps from titanium, I moved all the apps to the microsd through titanium. It said all the apps have been successfully moved but after sometime, my nook color began to restart. It keeps on restarting, unless I remove my microsd. I made a backup on phiremod 6.3 & now I am on latest nightly. Please help me how can I successfully move all my apps with data without restarting.
Thanx
Do you still have the backup from before you moved them?
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Do you still have the backup from before you moved them?
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Yes I have that backup on my pc & also on my microsd.
Well, it would seem to me you want to get back to where you were when everything worked. I would uninstall all the current apps that you moved and then reinstall them to the eMMC from the backup. You don't want to simply restore the backup because then you might have duplicates.
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Well, it would seem to me you want to get back to where you were when everything worked. I would uninstall all the current apps that you moved and then reinstall them to the eMMC from the backup. You don't want to simply restore the backup because then you might have duplicates.
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Well I managed to get it working for quite a short time period. What I did is just flashed a fresh nightly build again. Then I only restored all the games with data so that all my saves & downloaded content could come also. Then I Moved all the games to my microsd & it worked perfectly. Played games for 2hrs with no restart. After that I restored all the remaining apps to my eMMC & then I only moved selected apps to my microsd. After titanium showed successfully moved, same restart issue started again. Where am I doing wrong? & yeah this time I restored the apps only without the data because I thought it may be because of the settings I've made in the phiremod build which isn't quite working in nightly build or conflicting with it. But that didn't helped also :-(
Not all apps will work on the sd card, no matter what TB says is succesful or not.
selection16 said:
Not all apps will work on the sd card, no matter what TB says is succesful or not.
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But I also have tried restoring to the original location of the backup from TB setting where the apps were stored in the previous build which was phiremod 6.3 & in that build, all the games were stored in microsd & only some apps were stored in microsd & the remaining were in eMMC. I was having no problem at all at that time, no matter where the apps have been saved. Still cant find out how can I solve this issue?
Sounds like you have an app trying to run on startup that you have moved to the card that does not like it. Do it again and leave eveything on the eMMC. Use a few apps and then reboot without moving anything. Move your games first again and reboot. If you are still good, slowly move one app at a time and reboot until you find the offending app.
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Sounds like you have an app trying to run on startup that you have moved to the card that does not like it. Do it again and leave eveything on the eMMC. Use a few apps and then reboot without moving anything. Move your games first again and reboot. If you are still good, slowly move one app at a time and reboot until you find the offending app.
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Well this time I installed a fresh system again, restored games to sd 1st, worked like a charm. Next restored all my apps to eMMC without selecting data, working great no restart at all. Then I manually restart it just to check, & there it goes, same restart troubling again :-(
Isn't it the problem with TB? I am using v3.8.7
never mine