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Pros and Cons of CM7 on KF?

Hi, the reasons I've bought the Kindle Fire was that I wanted a cheap tablet on one hand (whilst it's quite capable HW-wise) and it's ability to be customized (it's capacity to have 3rd party roms on it, etc) on the other. On that second point I'm sure that the community will work its magic in the coming months: my dilemma however is with what I should do with the Fire I *currently* have...
I've received it a couple of days ago and I found out that the vanilla ROM seems quite alright on in itself. It seems limited, but as long as one roots and installs the Market (almost) the whole of Android force is unleashed. The UI is not always functional but it does feel as a breath of fresh air in a landscape which is tatterered with clones of the same thing (Google's UI)...
Anyhow the purpose of this thread -as the topic title states- is to weigh whether the installation of CM7 on KF is a justifiable move (given what we have at hand) for everyday use. I do own other android devices as well and installing CM flavours there was -often- an easy move given the benefits (more hardware capabilities, cleaner/faster UI, etc).
But on KF things seem to be less clear cut. For one CM7 doesn't seem to do more than what the stock rom already achieves in either the hardware side of things (no new "function" is enabled) *or* the software side (the lag is still there, and Amazon has/had already done an admirable job to keep her device working without the need of any physical buttons).
So my question is to those who already made the move to CM7 for daily usage. Was it worth it for any non experimental purposes? Were there any discernable benefits compared to stock? (I mean considering how the situation is right *now*, not how things *can* be).
Thanks for your attention and sorry for the length of this post, it's only that this is the first time that I find myself in front of such a dilemma. Before KF I would often install CM on my device no questions asked, but now things seem less clear cut. Your opinions will be valued - again, thank you.

For everyday use i find CM7 more useful simply because the Fire launcher is convoluted. Nothing you cant achieve with a launcher, however launchers tend make pior use of the sceeen real estate. Also no need to worry aboit the root removing OTA updates.
The only downside i have with CM7 right now is the lacl of volume softkeys

The Anthem said:
For everyday use i find CM7 more useful simply because the Fire launcher is convoluted. Nothing you cant achieve with a launcher, however launchers tend make pior use of the sceeen real estate. Also no need to worry aboit the root removing OTA updates.
The only downside i have with CM7 right now is the lacl of volume softkeys
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Hmm, but how can a mere launcher be the whole reason to change a Rom? Why can't -one- siimply install one from the market?

The Anthem said:
Also no need to worry aboit the root removing OTA updates.
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IMHO, this is the main reason to install CM7.
The Anthem said:
The only downside i have with CM7 right now is the lacl of volume softkeys
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There is workaround for this, I do not remember, but somewhere in the forum

gett said:
IMHO, this is the main reason to install CM7.
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The only reason I haven't tried CM7 is that I have had Amazon Prime for a long time and like to use Amazon's services.
Originally Posted by The Anthem
The only downside i have with CM7 right now is the lacl of volume softkeys
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There is workaround for this, I do not remember, but somewhere in the forum
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"Volume Control" from the Android Market is great - it puts a volume slider that auto-hides on the edge of the screen.

Pros: It does everything the kindle does at stock and then more (If you want to use emulators and games, I would recommend it).
Cons: It is hard to set up the stock amazon apps on CM7, although possible. There is also a small chance of bricking your device if you do everything totally wrong and for some reason (like not following directions) cannot unbrick using the known methods.
The main difference for me has been that I can use different PDF software to read PDFs more clearly and that I can play emulators on it.

A con for cm7 right now is the CPU constantly being at 1008mhz when wifi is on...at least for me. I tried the mac address fix but it didn't work.
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For me I feel CM7 gives you that tablet feel more so than the Amazon UI. Having customization is always one of the main things I look for. I do have Amazon Prime however I hardly use any of their services besides the shipping. (Netflix > Amazon Instant Video)
Also if you do everything right and make a back up of your stock, you can always revert back to it if you don't like what you see.

The browser is smother on cm7 silk loads a bit faster, but the scrolling feels smoother on cm7, also in stock firmware when you go full screen you cant get rid of the gray bar, on cm you can hide it and show it as much as you want.
How ever... i feel that battery life is a bit shorter, but not much, I don't know if anyone else has that feeling.

there are no cons to CM7. ITS THE GREATEST software. I just got finished with ice cream sammich and that is boring as heck. Flashing back to CM7 and leaving my Vision in the ice cream.
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there are no cons to CM7. ITS THE GREATEST software. I just got finished with ice cream sammich and that is boring as heck. Flashing back to CM7 and leaving my Vision in the ice cream.
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You've got to be kidding me...

Winglerw28 said:
Pros: It does everything the kindle does at stock and then more (If you want to use emulators and games, I would recommend it).
Cons: It is hard to set up the stock amazon apps on CM7, although possible. There is also a small chance of bricking your device if you do everything totally wrong and for some reason (like not following directions) cannot unbrick using the known methods.
The main difference for me has been that I can use different PDF software to read PDFs more clearly and that I can play emulators on it.
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Yea I got chrono cross working so its been great. I agree with the pdfs as well studying for some it certs so its been really helpful.

androidcues said:
there are no cons to CM7. ITS THE GREATEST software. I just got finished with ice cream sammich and that is boring as heck. Flashing back to CM7 and leaving my Vision in the ice cream.
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... this is your brain on drugs.

GBH2 said:
"Volume Control" from the Android Market is great - it puts a volume slider that auto-hides on the edge of the screen.
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Which volume control, there are seven of them?
THX

cuban11182 said:
Which volume control, there are seven of them?
THX
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https://market.android.com/details?id=rubberbigpepper.VolumeControl
imo this should be included with the rom

I am running CM7 as a daily ROM at the moment, and I can say that it is much better than the Amazon stock ROM. When running stock you have to worry about OTA updates that can potentially remove root access and prevent it from being acquired again (until a workaround is found). Also, for me at least, CM7 seems to run much better than the stock ROM did, with little to no lag.

GBH2 said:
The only reason I haven't tried CM7 is that I have had Amazon Prime for a long time and like to use Amazon's services.
"Volume Control" from the Android Market is great - it puts a volume slider that auto-hides on the edge of the screen.
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Even if you have Amazon Prime you can use Amazon services still. You just have to download the apps onto CM7. I have done this, but I forgot where I got the apk files.

A couple more notes on CM7 v Stock
I no longer have the issue where the Fire wont wake and I have to hold power for a reboot.
Inputs seem more responsive, I no longer have to press things multiple times or them to work, mainly back button was problematic.
Much greater app compatibility in the Marketplace.
Also, thanks for he volume control, just what I needed.

ragul40 said:
Even if you have Amazon Prime you can use Amazon services still. You just have to download the apps onto CM7. I have done this, but I forgot where I got the apk files.
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Interesting. I may have been misinformed. I have Amazon Prime, have for years. I realize that I can still install the Kindle app and other Amazon apps, but can I still receive Amazon Prime free Streaming videos and free Kindle owners lending library, etc. if I switch over to CM7?

I rooted just the other day, I run cm7 on all my other devices, I do not have interest in it beyond the app swap option and swipe lock screen. The stock build + market is all I need at this point. When cm7 develops into a fully stable option I will certainly switch but for now I don't reccomend it.

sluggish secure sites

hi guys, I'm finally Xoom owner as of yesterday, haven't even gotten the thing rooted yet so.....falling way behind. Man, I love this thing though.
So the problem I'm having has been hard to research because I don't know what some of the basic website types are called. The biggest problem is my bank website so sluggish and choppy it's really not useable. Actually though I'm noticing that posting here is causing the same trouble so....what is this dialogue entry, scrolling animated called? Cause if I can't get it to work with this, the enemy is going to pull rank and make me take this back for the laptop she has picked out.
Is there any browser, or add on that will hook me up?
If Pnc's app wasn't so half ass this wouldn't be an issue!

chillertech said:
hi guys, I'm finally Xoom owner as of yesterday, haven't even gotten the thing rooted yet so.....falling way behind. Man, I love this thing though.
So the problem I'm having has been hard to research because I don't know what some of the basic website types are called. The biggest problem is my bank website so sluggish and choppy it's really not useable. Actually though I'm noticing that posting here is causing the same trouble so....what is this dialogue entry, scrolling animated called? Cause if I can't get it to work with this, the enemy is going to pull rank and make me take this back for the laptop she has picked out.
Is there any browser, or add on that will hook me up?
If Pnc's app wasn't so half ass this wouldn't be an issue!
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You've got to give the Xoom a real chance. To me, rooting and installing the Tiamat Moray rom, overclocking, installing the overclocked gpu Odachi kernel over it, will fix you up. Also, I find that the alpha Ice Cream Sandwich build by Team Eos (aka Tiamat) is fantastic--fast and smooth as butter. Also, use a launcher like ADW EX, and you'll love using the Xoom. I use Dolphin HD browser and like it better than stock android. Not all apps are optimized for tablets yet, but they are getting there. My Bank of America app works fine.

I am struggling to figure out wtf I was talking about to be honest. I have a newborn and I haven't slept in a few days.
So the type of site in referring to, I am thinking it might be java. basically it's a constant fight to keep the courser where you want it to be. Then it still winds up typing in the middle of some other word. I thought it was just https sites but during this post it realized it was the desktop version of the forum too.
Our laptop has about had it, this thing may have to be a full replacement for a while. The only way to do it banking is through the full version site, their half ass mobile site lacks the functionality......so if we, can't use this for banking I'm going to have to get a laptop. I really like this thing. I'm just hoping there's a way around it that I'm not aware of.
For videos....let's just say hypotheticaly someone for whatever reason would want to go to....oh I dunno, "you corn", a farming site loaded with streaming videos. Let's say that person were to click on a clip starring his favorite farmer, Bella Donna, when my wife is finally out shopping or hair or something.
The only thing that would show would be the first five seconds, then it would stop and say buffering. Eventually the slider would start moving again and your can hear the combine running but the video status frozen.

First of all, congratulations on the baby...been there and it's a tough first few months, so you have my sympathy. Lack of a good night's sleep will wear you down, fast.
I love my Xoom, and for most of my purposes it has replaced my laptop, but Imho,the Xoom is a personal device and it would probably not suffice as the family's sole computer. You can definitely improve the Xoom's performance by rooting and running custom roms/kernels. You can possibly improve your home's internet speed, which will improve your downloads and reduce some of that streamed video buffering. But there is no tablet, not Xoom, not Transformer Prime, not iPad, that has what the comparably priced laptop has. Of course, the Xoom can do things and go places that the laptop can't match, but for your needs, and for peace in your home which you need right now, maybe the laptop is the better choice. I'm sure you'll make whatever is the right decision for you. Good luck with everything.

First Impressions of a new 10.1 owner.

Just got a new 10.1 yesterday and gave myself a day to see how much I like it. Speed is always a big deal for me. Im actually typing from the tab now. The keyboard isnt too bad, but I dont see a autocorrection so far, but have not looked into it. The speed of the Touchwiz and homescreens is much better than most had me believe. I dont have any lag between the tapping of the arrow and the animation to show the quick apps.
The tablet also came fully updated, as far as the tablet shows through the update wizard. I will eventually check up the dev section and make sure I have the latest update today or tomorrow. The touchscreen does show a bit of lag as far as drawing with the fingers but isnt too bad and rougly on course with the A100 from Acer, my previous tablet. Battery is also great, and came 50% charged when I bought it, and didnt drop below 40% for the 4 hours I had used it before throwing it on the charger and watching some youtube and netflix.
Anyways, that was a quick review, and I love the tablet as of right now, when I thought the Tw UX was going to be a pain, but hasshown to be opposite and not too bad.
Thanks,
Mike

I just ordered one of these. I dunno if I'll get it since the contract was too good to be true. Nonetheless, if it get it, it'll be a worthy successor to my übermodified ZTE Light.

try ADWlauncher ....is the best by far for interface

Go launcher HD... not on market, Google it .
It works flawlessly.
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You should get "ADWlauncher Ex"
It's a very good launcher replacement, better than the stock one.
For the keyboard, you can try Thumb Keyboard
both apps aren't free... but it's worth it

mvan4310 said:
Just got a new 10.1 yesterday and gave myself a day to see how much I like it. Speed is always a big deal for me. Im actually typing from the tab now. The keyboard isnt too bad, but I dont see a autocorrection so far, but have not looked into it. The speed of the Touchwiz and homescreens is much better than most had me believe. I dont have any lag between the tapping of the arrow and the animation to show the quick apps.
The tablet also came fully updated, as far as the tablet shows through the update wizard. I will eventually check up the dev section and make sure I have the latest update today or tomorrow. The touchscreen does show a bit of lag as far as drawing with the fingers but isnt too bad and rougly on course with the A100 from Acer, my previous tablet. Battery is also great, and came 50% charged when I bought it, and didnt drop below 40% for the 4 hours I had used it before throwing it on the charger and watching some youtube and netflix.
Anyways, that was a quick review, and I love the tablet as of right now, when I thought the Tw UX was going to be a pain, but hasshown to be opposite and not too bad.
Thanks,
Mike
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Thanks all forth replies. I havebthe thumb keyboard already, but don't need a new launcher or anything yet, since the stock is working perfect. The next next thing I'm waiting on is the ics update in the coming months. I do plan to root this soon, but won't use an ics Rom since I use the cameras often. I may throw Task or overcome on this instead while I wait. Overall a very good tablet, and the detail is amazing as far as the resolution and everything else goes.

mvan4310 said:
Thanks all forth replies. I havebthe thumb keyboard already, but don't need a new launcher or anything yet, since the stock is working perfect. The next next thing I'm waiting on is the ics update in the coming months. I do plan to root this soon, but won't use an ics Rom since I use the cameras often. I may throw Task or overcome on this instead while I wait. Overall a very good tablet, and the detail is amazing as far as the resolution and everything else goes.
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I have never liked ADW launcher and tried the Go HD launcher today and I don't like it either.. I'm with you, I enjoy the stock one the best..
Thumb Keyboard ROCKS and so does HD Widgets and Reader HD..
Task 14 is just as fast as ICS and its rock solid and stable...
Enjoy the Tab, I still love mine 6 months after buying it...

Mine came with Swype built in (a TMobile tab) and I rooted it, and uninstalled the installed version and use the newest one from their site. I just love the black keys.
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theROMinator said:
Go launcher HD... not on market, Google it .
It works flawlessly.
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Although, I've tried this and readily liked it. Isn't it still in beta2 with next to no options for changing anything? It's been a few days since I've checked so maybe its been updated again.
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Benzoman said:
Although, I've tried this and readily liked it. Isn't it still in beta2 with next to no options for changing anything? It's been a few days since I've checked so maybe its been updated again.
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Its still beta 2 with zero options..

I have a gift through my ADSL company to bring 3 guests
P7500 is the white model. I bought a white cover and buyincoins amazonUK an adapter to make memory cards and USB flash drives.
the hard disk via USB (2.5) do not work, ask for energy.

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I have a gift through my ADSL company to bring 3 guests
P7500 is the white model. I bought a white cover and buyincoins amazonUK an adapter to make memory cards and USB flash drives.
the hard disk via USB (2.5) do not work, ask for energy.
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If you're needing help with the hard disk, you need to search first, and then if nothing is found make a new thread in Q&A section.
It will probably be missed in here and considered rude hijacking someone elses thread.
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If you are on HC 3.2 you are alright, but if still on 3.1 I'd news astonished if you liked the touch wiz. It its just horrible. ADW EX its the lightest and the most heavily customisable. The most appealing is spb 3d. It its amazing but uses more ram.
However congrats for your new tab and hope you enjoy it;-)

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If you are on HC 3.2 you are alright, but if still on 3.1 I'd news astonished if you liked the touch wiz. It its just horrible. ADW EX its the lightest and the most heavily customisable. The most appealing is spb 3d. It its amazing but uses more ram.
However congrats for your new tab and hope you enjoy it;-)
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The stock experience was great. Im using task 14 now and honestly don't see very much improvement in speed, but I always love a custom rom and root. Honestly I prefer stock launchers over custom ones for no apparent reason .

Rooted Stock vs ICS

I've been playing around with several of the great ICS Roms for the Kindle Fire, especially once the 3.0 kernel really got rolling. Since this is the only device I currently have that can run any type of ICS, it's still fairly new to me. I was wondering what advantages people saw to ICS on the KF vs. using a rooted version of stock (like MoDaCo), and vice versa.
Please note, this isn't in any way meant to disparage the great work all the devs are doing with the kernel and different ICS Roms.
Here's my initial take (and please note, these are just my opinions), but would love more opinions.
Rooted stock
1. Stock reader: To me, the reader on the stock (or rooter stock) rom is much better than the Kindle for Android app
2. Kindle Fire apps: If you bought any, like I did before I started changing roms around, than you can still use these. Haven't been able to do so (yet) with any of the ICS roms
3. Market: Because it's rooted, I still have access to Google Play as well (limited to Gingerbread apps I'm sure) (don't know if this is really an advantage per se, but I thought it was a worthwhile point)
4. Battery: I had better battery life with the stock rom than with any of the ICS roms (*Note*: I know this item is likely temporary, since a lot of work is going into the 3.0 kernel)
5. Stability: Obviously, the ICS/3.0 items are still being worked on, so for now, the stock is likely going to experience fewer things like FCs and dropped WiFi (*Note*: Again, i'm sure this is temporary)
ICS
1. Interface: Likely a big reason many people switch over, the ICS interface is (to me) much cleaner and more user-friendly. Also, more customizable
1a. Tablet specific: Since ICS was created for for phones and tablets, the interface also works really well for a tablet, instead of just being a port of a phone interface.
2. USB OTG: I know this is a big point for a lot of people with the 3.0 kernel development, but having this even working a little is definitely a bonus
Thanks all.

The modaco rooted stock also has kindle owners lending library and amazon instant video. The ics doesn't.
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ICS is faster and more customizable. I think that's reason enough for me.

Dropped wifi is damn annoying but I'll live with it until something can be done.
Battery life for me has been about the same for me with stock and ICS though.

In the end, it's all about the apps for me so stock wins out over ICS. But the interface is so much smoother on ICS, and because hardware acceleration works it's now a much tougher choice to make.

Aesrys said:
I've been playing around with several of the great ICS Roms for the Kindle Fire, especially once the 3.0 kernel really got rolling. Since this is the only device I currently have that can run any type of ICS, it's still fairly new to me. I was wondering what advantages people saw to ICS on the KF vs. using a rooted version of stock (like MoDaCo), and vice versa.
Please note, this isn't in any way meant to disparage the great work all the devs are doing with the kernel and different ICS Roms.
Here's my initial take (and please note, these are just my opinions), but would love more opinions.
Rooted stock
1. Stock reader: To me, the reader on the stock (or rooter stock) rom is much better than the Kindle for Android app
2. Kindle Fire apps: If you bought any, like I did before I started changing roms around, than you can still use these. Haven't been able to do so (yet) with any of the ICS roms
3. Market: Because it's rooted, I still have access to Google Play as well (limited to Gingerbread apps I'm sure) (don't know if this is really an advantage per se, but I thought it was a worthwhile point)
4. Battery: I had better battery life with the stock rom than with any of the ICS roms (*Note*: I know this item is likely temporary, since a lot of work is going into the 3.0 kernel)
5. Stability: Obviously, the ICS/3.0 items are still being worked on, so for now, the stock is likely going to experience fewer things like FCs and dropped WiFi (*Note*: Again, i'm sure this is temporary)
ICS
1. Interface: Likely a big reason many people switch over, the ICS interface is (to me) much cleaner and more user-friendly. Also, more customizable
1a. Tablet specific: Since ICS was created for for phones and tablets, the interface also works really well for a tablet, instead of just being a port of a phone interface.
2. USB OTG: I know this is a big point for a lot of people with the 3.0 kernel development, but having this even working a little is definitely a bonus
Thanks all.
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Rooted stock.
1. It's actually the same all behind the scenes.. could be placebo that makes stock feel nicer.
2. Just download the amazon app store and any app you bought on amazon will be available on an device or os.
3. Google play is google play. Not sure about it being limited to anything though. I think it uses galaxy tab 10.1 build.prop.
4. Seems about the same to mee. Unles you are pre 4/28 kernel and your unit wad not deep sleeping right.
5. On energy ics with 4/28 kernel I have not yet dropped WiFi or had a single FC. But.on previous builds it was pretty unstable.
ICS.
1. It is nice, but not having the full screen for icons sucks. Is like an asop build at some point. Still better than stock 6.3 with go launcher.
2.USB host is kick ass..
Bottom line.
If you need book borrowing or amazon streaming then stock non rooted is really the best way to go. Of you could care leas about borrowing or streaming (srsly, netflix and hulu have twice the content and its not a dollar f-ing 99 PER episode!! wtf amazon.. 80 bucks a year for prime and that's how you do me? 1.99 per episode of New Girl? Die in a fire amazon...)
Ics on kindle is amazing I like to bring it to best buy and WoW the retarded pc sales guys.. lol.
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Serinety said:
Rooted stock.
1. It's actually the same all behind the scenes.. could be placebo that makes stock feel nicer.
2. Just download the amazon app store and any app you bought on amazon will be available on an device or os.
3. Google play is google play. Not sure about it being limited to anything though. I think it uses galaxy tab 10.1 build.prop.
4. Seems about the same to mee. Unles you are pre 4/28 kernel and your unit wad not deep sleeping right.
5. On energy ics with 4/28 kernel I have not yet dropped WiFi or had a single FC. But.on previous builds it was pretty unstable.
ICS.
1. It is nice, but not having the full screen for icons sucks. Is like an asop build at some point. Still better than stock 6.3 with go launcher.
2.USB host is kick ass..
Bottom line.
If you need book borrowing or amazon streaming then stock non rooted is really the best way to go. Of you could care leas about borrowing or streaming (srsly, netflix and hulu have twice the content and its not a dollar f-ing 99 PER episode!! wtf amazon.. 80 bucks a year for prime and that's how you do me? 1.99 per episode of New Girl? Die in a fire amazon...)
Ics on kindle is amazing I like to bring it to best buy and WoW the retarded pc sales guys.. lol.
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Thanks for the reply. A couple of counter-points to yours:
1. The stock reader is actually a bit different from the Kindle App. The stock reader handles things like margins and line spacing better than the android app. I tested this out with the same book on both. I think the ICS android app still needs some work, as the Gingerbread/CM7 version also looks better than than ICS one (my opinion).
2. Actually, even installing the Amazon App store will typically not let you install games/apps with the Kindle Fire Edition moniker. Most apps will work just fine, you're correct, but any of those specific ones (I think mostly games, but could be others) won't even show up, much less install. Folks have even tried the full titanium backup/restore with mixed results. So, if you don't have any of these kinds of apps, this is really a non-issue.
Thanks.

I was staying away from ICS due to lack of hw accel, but I switched over recently.
However, I saw that Wired magazine app doesn't work on ICS so I had to return back to stock.
Now, I'm considering dualbooting ICS with stock. It seems to be the most viable option.

Aesrys said:
1. Stock reader: To me, the reader on the stock (or rooter stock) rom is much better than the Kindle for Android app
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Have you checked out an app called FBReader? Personally, I prefer it over the Kindle Reader app, and it could negate one of stock's "good points"...

Dasanko said:
Have you checked out an app called FBReader? Personally, I prefer it over the Kindle Reader app, and it could negate one of stock's "good points"...
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No, I haven't heard of it, but I'll give it a look, thanks.

I've tried both and found ICS slower on calling up web pages.
I really don't see what it adds to the party over and above Modaco.
I would describe ICS as more like tossed salad as in it's all over the place.
Also Amazon Appstore wouldn't install or me on ICS. Maybe because I am outside the US

Any app that is designated as [Kindle Fire Edition] will only work on the stock KF. So that's something to think about when buying apps from Amazon Appstore. I really hate the KF UI and much prefer ICS. The home page carousel is the worst.

Android Cowboy said:
Any app that is designated as [Kindle Fire Edition] will only work on the stock KF. So that's something to think about when buying apps from Amazon Appstore. I really hate the KF UI and much prefer ICS. The home page carousel is the worst.
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I was actually able to get one Kindle Fire Edition app to work on ICS, Dead Space. Had to to a backup using Titanium Backup from MoDaCo and then restore to ICS. Of course, I likely won't get any updates. Funny thing is, this same process wouldn't work for 2 Gameloft games (DH2 and Asphalt 6).

[Q] Root - Laggy?

I purchased a Nook Color from staples today, and after doing a good bit of reading around here and looking at the software and such, I definitely want to root it.
My question to all that have rooted it - is it smooth? I'm not interested in playing games on it, or watching movies or such - I'm using it as my eReader for all of my digital books for my college courses. But the software limits of this thing are pretty frustrating - mainly the inability to access the Play Market and my Kindle purchases.
I just don't want a considerable amount of lag when scrolling between screens, for example. I know it's not the strongest machine out there, but all of the honeycomb videos I've seen have been pretty laggy and slow when transitioning. Are the newer roms like this as well?

IceCatraz said:
I purchased a Nook Color from staples today, and after doing a good bit of reading around here and looking at the software and such, I definitely want to root it.
My question to all that have rooted it - is it smooth? I'm not interested in playing games on it, or watching movies or such - I'm using it as my eReader for all of my digital books for my college courses. But the software limits of this thing are pretty frustrating - mainly the inability to access the Play Market and my Kindle purchases.
I just don't want a considerable amount of lag when scrolling between screens, for example. I know it's not the strongest machine out there, but all of the honeycomb videos I've seen have been pretty laggy and slow when transitioning. Are the newer roms like this as well?
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Both rooted stock and CM7 are pretty snappy. CM9 begins to start getting laggy. Use the Manual Nooter 5.08.20 to root stock and you can install things from play store. Or try CM7 on SD to see if you like it.

Thanks! Would you suggest CM7 over rooted stock? I wouldn't mind using rooted stock at all - but I'd like to know which you like. I can still install Google Play with rooted stock, correct? I just don't want that nasty honeycomb looking interface - it's just really not for me.

IceCatraz said:
Thanks! Would you suggest CM7 over rooted stock? I wouldn't mind using rooted stock at all - but I'd like to know which you like. I can still install Google Play with rooted stock, correct? I just don't want that nasty honeycomb looking interface - it's just really not for me.
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Rooting stock makes sense if you care about B&N features:
Read to me (mostly children's book)
Enhanced content (e.g. Conde Nast magazines such as Wired, New Yorker, though some of these are becoming available via 3rd party sources.)
Newpaper or magazine subscriptions (auto-update feature is nice)
B&N Free in-store reading
Support from friends with stock Nooks or B&N (conditional upon being rooted)
The B&N reader experience and shell. The B&N Android Nook app is not the same thing as their firmware experience, at least not yet. Someday, they may update the B&N Nook Android app, but it is pretty poor right now. If you want to read B&N stuff, then 1.4.x is a big deal.
If you don't care about any of these things, sticking with B&N's firmware won't gain you anything, and has some annoying quirks. I originally started with CM7.1 on my NC, then went back to B&N and stuck with it for the better part of a year. It's very pretty and they do some nice things, but I recently went back to CM7.2 full time.
As suggested, build a bootable uSD card with CM or something else on it and compare. There's no risk that way. If you like CM better, I do recommend putting it on internal (eMMC) memory for maximum flexibility. If your NC is new, you might wait until it's out of warranty to do this.
The Play Store works fine rooted.

Thanks! I just rooted my Nook Color, and it works just fine. I think I'll be sticking with stock root. And you were right - the stock is pretty snappy. Thanks for the info, both of you.