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[Q] confused about kernal

I was wondering about the overclocking kernal for cm7. just how do i put it in. Do I have to do that when I first install or can I add it later. also does it really help. I mean is the difference really noticeable or not at all. I am still deciding if I should do it or not.

Kernels are flashed through ClockworkMod and can be flash anytime after you flash a rom. If you use the search bar you can easily find what particular kernel works for your setup.

OK, I think I found the right one but I was also wondering if I could install it when I first installed cm7. When I installed it I saw that it was searching for the kernel and for gapps but didn't find the n and skipped it. Could I install it then

chad11 said:
OK, I think I found the right one but I was also wondering if I could install it when I first installed cm7. When I installed it I saw that it was searching for the kernel and for gapps but didn't find the n and skipped it. Could I install it then
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CM7 has the ability to be overclocked as it sets.
settings > CM settings > performance > CPU settings.
just be extremely careful when Overclocking devices. it can takes it's toll in the long run.
and the g/apps are not kernel dependent they are ROM dependent.

OK but what do you mean by gapps are not kernal dependant

chad11 said:
OK but what do you mean by gapps are not kernal dependant
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On *UNIX based devices. They have a section of the firmware called the "kernel". The kernel accepts the coding, binary and scripts from the RAM/ROM and tells the hardware how to act, what to do, and when to do it.
The g/apps have nothing to do with the kernel.
The g/apps are Google's property and cannot be included in AOSP based ROMs. Those ROMs are developed from Google's code. And developers do not have the ability to add those at will. So we must flash them after/prior (depending on he ROM) to get the Google Apps.

YES! DO IT!
for me its like day and night, it so much smoother with dals OC kernel. and yes you can flash the OC kernel any time. you can flash cm7 rc1 then OC kernel in the same boot. or you can first install cm7 to check it out for a while and then later flash the new kernel. if you planning to flash dal's 6/18 kernel, make sure to get his app NC Tweaks.
NC Tweaks here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104039
Dal's Kernel here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451

thanks. What I want to know is how to flash it. do I do it the same way as gapps( have wifi and reboot in recovery mode) or is there a different way?

chad11 said:
thanks. What I want to know is how to flash it. do I do it the same way as gapps( have wifi and reboot in recovery mode) or is there a different way?
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You place the over clock zip file in the root of your sd card and flash it through cwm like you would a rom or gapps. So for example you would flash cm7 then gapps then the overclock kernel.

Not to Jack this thread, but I want to update from cm7 old kernel to New nightly build. Does the new kernel flash with the nightly?
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JeramyEggs said:
Not to Jack this thread, but I want to update from cm7 old kernel to New nightly build. Does the new kernel flash with the nightly?
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When you move from stable cm7 to cm7 nightly the new kernel is included. However the included kernel is overclockable only to 975mhz. If you want a higher clock speed you'll have to use dals 6182011 kernel, up to 1200mhz.

whats is cmw?

chad11 said:
whats is cmw?
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it's actually CWM.
ClockWork Manager
basically boot into recovery then flash.

OK. but this may be a stupid question but will the cm7 kernal work with the stable version7.0.3 because that is what I have.

chad11 said:
OK. but this may be a stupid question but will the cm7 kernel work with the stable version7.0.3 because that is what I have.
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I'm not following you cannot use just a Cyanogen(mod) kernel. They are built into their ROMs.

chad11 said:
OK. but this may be a stupid question but will the cm7 kernal work with the stable version7.0.3 because that is what I have.
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sorry, but no. dal's 6/18 OC kernel will not work with 7.0.3....
...just flash n118 and you'll be fine

Ok thanks anyway. do you know when the kernal will work with a stable version

chad11 said:
Ok thanks anyway. do you know when the kernal will work with a stable version
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The latest nightly should be considered stable. It is in release candidate stable for the next stable build. The next stable build should be released in the next couple of days.

neidlinger said:
it's actually CWM.
ClockWork Manager
basically boot into recovery then flash.
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No--It's- Clock Work Mod Recovery
CWMR ;^}

Jimbo67 said:
No--It's- Clock Work Mod Recovery
CWMR ;^}
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There is a Clockwork ROM Manager and a ClockworkMod Recovery image.
Together they are known as "CWM" Since one is a recovery and the other is a ROM manager.

Oem cm7 kernel link?

Sorry for repost, originally in wrong forum:
Noticed there's no download link to the stock CM7 kernel in faux's kernel thread. Looks like it might have been there before?
Anyone have a link they could point me to?

JoeM01 said:
Sorry for repost, originally in wrong forum:
Noticed there's no download link to the stock CM7 kernel in faux's kernel thread. Looks like it might have been there before?
Anyone have a link they could point me to?
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just reflash the same CM7 ZIP you used to install CM7 in the first place, you don't have to wipe data to do this either. wipe cache/dalvik, then install the CM7 update zip and you'll have the stock kernel, with all of your data still there. easy as pie!

Awesome. I already have the .zip on there. Guess I just didn't think of that. Thanks!!
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[Q] flashing CM9

when installing CM9 to your defy is it the same process for flashing CM7 or is there a slight variation or something?

Now why would you open a new thread for this question?

i realised that i could've directly asked on the actual CM9 thread, only after i'd just posted this thread, sorry.

another weird thread

nyambayo97 said:
when installing CM9 to your defy is it the same process for flashing CM7 or is there a slight variation or something?
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Why a separate thread
but pls refer this

dlcookie said:
Why a separate thread
but pls refer this
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No offence but this video is pretty useless. Good to see what can be done. but can't see what the dude is actually doing :|

boswald said:
No offence but this video is pretty useless. Good to see what can be done. but can't see what the dude is actually doing :|
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is there anything u want to see in this video that i missed explaining >?

The original thread was Dev based, about the ROM being released and how stable it is as released. This thread was noob based about how to flash said ROM and if it is different from another, very similar ROM.
Why clutter one thread when you can have two?
Anyway, to answer the question instead of of questioning the question, Yes the basic principle is the same. Once you have the System Recovery installed, it's a case of copying the CM9 zip file to your SD card and flashing the same as CM7, although the way I've personally done it is using Multiboot, so that I can normally use CM7 for "production" but can have a go and see how CM9 is progressing for a few minutes or so.
The Multiboot thread is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364659
Have fun.

Percz said:
The original thread was Dev based, about the ROM being released and how stable it is as released. This thread was noob based about how to flash said ROM and if it is different from another, very similar ROM.
Why clutter one thread when you can have two?
Anyway, to answer the question instead of of questioning the question, Yes the basic principle is the same. Once you have the System Recovery installed, it's a case of copying the CM9 zip file to your SD card and flashing the same as CM7, although the way I've personally done it is using Multiboot, so that I can normally use CM7 for "production" but can have a go and see how CM9 is progressing for a few minutes or so.
The Multiboot thread is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364659
Have fun.
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And to get back to CM7 from CM9, you only have to flash the CM7 zip?

Percz said:
The original thread was Dev based, about the ROM being released and how stable it is as released. This thread was noob based about how to flash said ROM and if it is different from another, very similar ROM.
Why clutter one thread when you can have two?
Anyway, to answer the question instead of of questioning the question, Yes the basic principle is the same. Once you have the System Recovery installed, it's a case of copying the CM9 zip file to your SD card and flashing the same as CM7, although the way I've personally done it is using Multiboot, so that I can normally use CM7 for "production" but can have a go and see how CM9 is progressing for a few minutes or so.
The Multiboot thread is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364659
Have fun.
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Thanks. I hope it is easy to boot into recovery and go back to nandroid backup of CM7. I want to try ICS over the weekend.

Install CWM.
Apply Bootmenu 1.0.4.zip
Reboot
Wipe Cache/Data
Apply CM9.zip
Reboot
be happy.

oh okay thanks
sent from Motorola Defy @1.3gz running 2.3.7!

Have a look at this guide on flashing CM9 as a second ROM, using multiboot
[Guide] Install double boot CM7 + CM9:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375156

i am currently running cm7, but have no idea which version of bootmenu or CWM is running on my handset...how do i check??and if its a different version from the 1 being recommended here, do i needa change it somehow??

abysstheking said:
i am currently running cm7, but have no idea which version of bootmenu or CWM is running on my handset...how do i check??and if its a different version from the 1 being recommended here, do i needa change it somehow??
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Reboot and press vol- when you seen blue light. You'll be taken to the bootmenu. It's stated in there version of your current bootmenu.
And yes you need to change it speaking of compatibility..
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farsight73 said:
Reboot and press vol- when you seen blue light. You'll be taken to the bootmenu. It's stated in there version of your current bootmenu.
And yes you need to change it speaking of compatibility..
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Absolutely not. You don't need to mess around with bootmenu versions and other stuff. Just read the thread i pointed to above, it works, proven by people following it with succes, and no need to change bootmenus
Sent from my 1Ghz CM7 Defy

Noob GUide
Hi Guys!
I just saw the latest nightly but I'm afraid to flash since kernel will be change and I might not be able to downgrade to stock 2.2.2. May I know if there is a way to flash the latest nightly but also being able to downgrade to stock 2.2.2? I'm currently using CM7 stable ROM
Thanks!

Yes you can downgrade it using your stock 2.2 sbf.
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martt said:
Install CWM.
Apply Bootmenu 1.0.4.zip
Reboot
Wipe Cache/Data
Apply CM9.zip
Reboot
be happy.
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I flashed stock full sbf 2.2.2
Rooted using superoneclick
Installed scndInitvs2.0 which gave an option of installing either 0.6.5 or 1.0.7 bootmenu. So chose 1.0.7
Rebooted a couple of times.
Did factory reset , cleared cache and cleared dalvik cache in that order.
applied 12-07 CM9 zip
and rebooted
but my phone is stuck on the M logo!

Thanks! As I want to try the Dec. 7 nightly just for testing purposes. Thanks again!

This is a kernal issue mine is the same im trying to find the best way to update the kernal if anyone knows please let me know
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[Verizon Fascinate Guide] Flashing a Kernel for EH03

I basically put in the title EH03 due to the vast majority of people using EH03 Roms now.
I am not responsible for anything you do to your phone. standard disclamer but i feel its important to add to this just incase people want to come at me saying something i said to do messed up their phone or whatever.
Basically, I'm writing this for my own use and for anyone who needs information regarding kernel flashing or what kernels are for what rom. There are two types of Roms, Touchwiz (TW) and MTD. For TW there is 3 kernels available. And 2 for MTD. The links will be at the bottom of the post, I will go into as much detail as i can without kanging the OP of the kernels. They all have great write-ups on OC/UV and all that fancy stuff. Basically I use Voltage Control (get from the market) and set it to 200-1200, set as boot and not one hot boot or any other issues, but all fassy's are different, what works for me may not work for you, so do not think that im telling you what is standard for every phone, cause theyre isnt a real answer to that.
Note: All the kernels that I will be referring to allow the installation of Custom Boot Animations via CWM. There is a great list of a bunch of them I will post link to it as well.
TW:
1) KGB (updated 1/16/12) (formally known as TKS and TKSGB) this imo, is the one i use with my current rom/kernel combo. This one comes with an app packaged in the kernel install. for more information on the app features, see the op at the bottom of the post.
2) GeeWiz. (updated 2/3/12) This one comes with a Rom/Kernel/Recovery Package. As of the new update, he separated the kernel from the rom so you can use just the kernel. This one is more of a stock kernel with some extra features. See link for the complete list of features.
3) LeanKernel (updated 1/1/12) (Rootzwiki) This was actually one of the first kernels I used. It is already OC'd to 1200 so no need to use the Voltage Control App with this kernel. Not too much more to say about this one because I didnt use it too long. Make sure you check your rom to ensure you are choosing the correct verison of the kernel. There is EH and EI. EH03 is the Verizon Fascinate GB. EI120 I believe is the Mesmorize GB (correct me if I'm wrong?) but some people have ported E120 Roms to the Fascinate, thus the need for that kernel version.
4) Stock Kernel Stock is stock, you cant do any customizing to it, no OC/UV or boot animations. It depends on what version of cwm you are using to determine which version of the kernel you need to flash in CWM : 2.+ cwm = amend 3.+ cwm = edify
**however the red recovery which is 2.5.1 takes edify.
MTD:
MTD is basically for CM7/CM9(when it gets ported to us) Team Hacksung's ICS port and MIUI. Im not going to go into detail for any of this because i never used them long enough to grasp anything about them.
1) Glitch v13.1 (updated 12/25/11) This is imo the most common MTD kernel used by the community. Features and OC/UV values can be found in the OP. They also have a test version out for ICS if you are using that Rom. Make sure when you go to this OP you choose the Fascinate version of the kernel.
2) JT's 3 button fix Kernel (JT's Twitter) This is another MTD kernel. Not much to say about this one. Just that it only works for MTD based Roms.
I put a link to Droidstyle's Guide for Rom Flashing if you guys haven't already flashed a custom rom.
I hope this gave you guys some insight.
**The links**
KGB http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364912
GeeWiz http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278838
LeanKernel http://rootzwiki.com/topic/5726-kernelgbtweh09ei20voodoo-leankernel-minimalistic-kernel-v220-1112/
Glitch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1252871
JT's 3 Button Fix MTD http://twitter.com/#!/_jt1134_/status/132159683791290368
Droidstyle's Guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
Boot Animations http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053250
Stock kernel Edify http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19865577&postcount=140
Stock kernel Amend http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19717849&postcount=126
Information on Davlik Cache http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383584

If you do not have a custom rom you will not be able to install a custom kernel, Refer to droidstyle's guide if you have not already installed a rom. Link is in OP
Download kernel and place it on the root of your sd card (not really necessary but imo its easier to find)Installing kernel
boot phone into CWM Recovery (volume up + down + power) If you are already on a custom rom do not do this, just longpress the power button and choose reboot into recovery.
Wipe Cache and Davlik (see link in OP on Davlik cache if you do not know what this is used for)
Scroll to Install Zip from SD card. Press power buttom to select menu.
Scroll to Choose Zip from SD Card. Press Power Again.
Scroll down to your downloaded Kernel file using volume down key
Press power button on the file.
Scroll down to Yes with Volume down key.
Press power.
Allow to install.
Reboot phone.

Here is a link to edify or amend
eho3 stock kernels
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21612693&postcount=2

Thanks dude. Ill add it to OP in a few hours. Im not home right now and its a p.i.t.a to fix it on the app
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Muchas gracias!

Dirt_Bag said:
Muchas gracias!
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Your welcome. Hope all the information helped you.
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updated OP with JT's 3 button MTD fix with links and stock kernels both amend and edify versions and also information on Davlik Cache links.

wardcst said:
Here is a link to edify or amend
eho3 stock kernels
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21612693&postcount=2
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Silly question, but how do I know if I need edify or amend script? I am on SuperClean ROM using CWR 2.5. Thanks!
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mkuehl06 said:
Based on your recovery, in your case you need edify
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It depends on what version of cwm you are using
2.+ cwm = amend
3.+ cwm =edify

wardcst said:
It depends on what version of cwm you are using
2.+ cwm = amend
3.+ cwm =edify
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cwm 2.5.1 red works for both

updated OP for stock kernel to say which verison you need with what CWM. Thanks goes to Droidstyle and wardcst for this information. I overlooked it somehow when posting the kernel information.

Updated op for new date on geewiz kernel
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mkuehl06 said:
If you do not have a custom rom you will not be able to install a custom kernel, Refer to droidstyle's guide if you have not already installed a rom. Link is in OP..
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Whoa, what? This is the first I've heard this. I've read through Droidstyle's guide, and didn't see this specifically mentioned. Or in any of the other threads I'd read, actually (there's so many).
Through all the posts I see on kernels, how kernels like KGB work with Gingerbread and EH03 based ROMs, which lead me to believe just the kernel can be customized with a stock ROM... I've never seen one until now that said you must have a custom ROM first.
So they mean, a Gingerbread/EH03 based *custom* ROM when they say that.
This would explain why I borked my phone trying to put KGB on it.
I wish I had seen this thread earlier, that would've save me a lot of headache.
It all makes sense now.

[Q] Do anyone know what is the usage of kernel-milestone2-uk_2.2.1-froyo from tezet

After intalling CM10 by tezet, I find that I still prefer the CM7 by tezet. So I decide to install CM7 instead CM10. But when I installed CM10, I installed kernel-milestone2-cn-2.3.4-4.5.3.
So my question is that whether I need install kernel-milestone2-uk_2.2.1-froyo before installing CM7?
Thanks in advance.

same question here hope some one could shed some light.
before i went to cm10 i was on stock froyo though 2.2.

You should be able to flash CM7 with that chinese kernel you flashed, just remember to do a full backup and full wipe, you're downgrading.
Get the 2.2.1 UK kernel and put it in your SD card, just in case something goes wrong even if you get into bootloops you should be able to get to the bootmenu.
If you still cannot get into bootmenu, recover your phone with an SBF.
Good luck

zjuerkzhang said:
After intalling CM10 by tezet, I find that I still prefer the CM7 by tezet. So I decide to install CM7 instead CM10. But when I installed CM10, I installed kernel-milestone2-cn-2.3.4-4.5.3.
So my question is that whether I need install kernel-milestone2-uk_2.2.1-froyo before installing CM7?
Thanks in advance.
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Yes, you need to instal this kernel, else you stuck on boot logo. It looks like new CM7 builds doesn't contains kernel.

zjuerkzhang said:
After intalling CM10 by tezet, I find that I still prefer the CM7 by tezet. So I decide to install CM7 instead CM10. But when I installed CM10, I installed kernel-milestone2-cn-2.3.4-4.5.3.
So my question is that whether I need install kernel-milestone2-uk_2.2.1-froyo before installing CM7?
Thanks in advance.
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although someone has answered you question,I wanna answer that again.
Yes,you mus install it before installing CM7.Kernel is most important. The whole system is complied with special kernel Version.

benitoxu said:
although someone has answered you question,I wanna answer that again.
Yes,you mus install it before installing CM7.Kernel is most important. The whole system is complied with special kernel Version.
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I didn't include kernel not on purpose Will fix this next time...

I'm with the same question so correct me if i'm wrong,
For all who want to downgrade from cm10 to cm7 and are using CH-GB kernel have to:
1 - flash Froyo Kernel
2 - flash latest cm7
3 - install gapps
My question is, can I install this kernel by "install from zip" mode?