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I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.
Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.
Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.
Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?
Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?
ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications
Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
kerrance76 said:
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
muzikfreakah said:
On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here
muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello
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I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.
Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?
any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this
I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it
it also shows up at times when you are entering a password
Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...
Hi I'm currently using PocketCM Keyboard which is better than the default but a bit frustrating when having to use !&- etc as you have to switch to numbers then to exclamations...
I was wondering if anyone have found a better keyboard (perhaps like the iphone with everything on the one screen) but still takes advantage of the screen size?
JetMouse, you know you can easily customise the layout of PocketCM Keyboard to suit your needs? It's as easy as editing a text file to control which symbols appear on which buttons. Since I did that it's easily become my favourite software on my Touch.
SiliconS said:
JetMouse, you know you can easily customise the layout of PocketCM Keyboard to suit your needs? It's as easy as editing a text file to control which symbols appear on which buttons. Since I did that it's easily become my favourite software on my Touch.
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No I didn't know this - can you run me through how to do it?
JetMouse said:
Hi I'm currently using PocketCM Keyboard which is better than the default but a bit frustrating when having to use !&- etc as you have to switch to numbers then to exclamations...
I was wondering if anyone have found a better keyboard (perhaps like the iphone with everything on the one screen) but still takes advantage of the screen size?
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I use SPB Keyboard (the new one, version 4.0) with fullscreen mode. The non-fullscreen mode is pretty much iphone-like. Don't know if it's "better" - to my taste the stock one is just perfect in all respects except for lack of support for Russian, which I need. Unlike most other keyboards, it has arrows which compensate the absense of the dpad on the device.
Sure thing:
Connect your PocketPC to your computer so you can browse the contents of the device.
Browse to \Program Files\PCMKeyboard
Copy English.layout (or whichever one you're using) to your computer's desktop
Make a backup of the file, just in case
Open the live file with Notepad
You can see four lines labelled keyboard_layout_#=
Edit the characters in those lines to change the symbols on the keys in PocketCM Keyboard
Each of the four lines contains a complete template for the keyboard. Rows are separated by the \n (newline) combination
There are some shortcuts to create special-purpose keys:
\2 seems to be uppercase
\1 seems to be lowercase
\b is backspace
\M is the symbol/text toggle button
\N is the enter key
There is a way of including smilies or combinations of characters on single keys, but I can't remember how. I also can't remember how to edit the row of quick symbols you see if you hold down the '123#?' button
Once you've made your changes, save the file on your computer and copy it back over to the PocketPC.
You'll need to choose a different softinput thing and then go back to PCM Keyboard to see the changes.
Don't forget to save the file somewhere in case you upgrade to a newer version of PCM Keyboard.
My favourite keyboard is Tengo. Allows very fast and forgiving typing. You might like to try it. I hope it works on Touch HD cos I have not got one to try on yet.
They have a free version, a commercial regular version, and a commercial thumb version.
the best keyboard for me is touchpal from http://www.cootek.com/
so many improvements
prospects said:
the best keyboard for me is touchpal from http://www.cootek.com/
so many improvements
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is it compatible with the TOUCH HD
Touchpal
I think Touchpal is the best.
iznee said:
is it compatible with the TOUCH HD
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I just tested it, yes it is 100% compatible.
I love this keyboard, but I am trying to get it to run using the Dutch language. It is so blazing fast and accurate in English using the suretype layout, it's not even funny. I SWEAR I cannot type faster using a hardware keyboard, simply because of the fact that it is just as accurate, has big enough keys to type blind, and you don't actually have to depress a button so... works for me
Still stuck with the trial version though...
Only thing that I still gotta get used to is switching keyboards using a finger slide, I just keep pressing buttons instead of triggering the slide really cool function though as it saves button space and basically is just cool to show people
Thanks for the tip people!
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Got my own language it in it now, easy... Also really easy to switch languages... Just pull down the ABC key and pick one. This does reveal some non-skinned ugly winmo buttons though, even while the rest of the keyboard is Diamond skinned.
wfhowell said:
I think Touchpal is the best.
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Completely Agree, it is very usefull, Fast and easy to use Keyboard
TouchPal
I would at least try the demo of this. I personally prefer TouchPal to a Blackberry hardware keyboard. I am serious. The seplling correction and word prediction is simply amazing. Completely altered my view of software keyboards.
BTW- I am 6' 2" and weigh 220 with BIG hands, and Have been happy with TouchPal since the first Touch.
Hi,
the touch input keyboard has 2 layouts on my HD2. The main difference between the 2 is that in some applications there is no space button but there is ".com" "/" buttons instead. For example if I run the web browser and type the web address then this layout appears and in this case it is very useful . But I don't really understand how it is decided or ruled which layout is selected, because when I go to a page where i try to fill a field the same layout comes up, and no space button available. Sometimes this layout appears when I run other normal application for example messaging. Some times the layout selection works as it should be, but sometimes always the bad layout appears with missing space button. Is there any experience about this, or solution?
Many thanks.
Dear follow DZ owner:
Just bought my DZ today, and disappointed to find a hardware problem.
1. the "printing" of the symbol on the hardware keyboard doesn't match with the soft keyboard, this creates a lot of trouble for the user who get used to the standard HTC layout. e.g. # is on S key and $ is on D key while on soft keyboard @ is on S and # is on D
2. the strange thing is the symbol output from the hardware keyboard IS indeed still based on the soft keyboard layout, which means what you type on the hardware keyboard is NOT what you get from output on the screen.
e.g. printing of the # is on the S key, however output generates by long press S is @ and the worst is output by pressing FN + S gives #.
I didn't see anyone discussing this issue. Am I the only one that is bug by this problem/issue???
In your second picture, it shows that your on-screen keyboard is the English keyboard ("EN"). Press the soft key towards bottom left and you should be able to select different languages, is there one that matches better in that list ?
steviewevie said:
In your second picture, it shows that your on-screen keyboard is the English keyboard ("EN"). Press the soft key towards bottom left and you should be able to select different languages, is there one that matches better in that list ?
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Sorry, what I was trying to point out is that, when a key combine with FN its output is not the same as long press on a key.
Will remapping keys help fix this problem?
I'm also using HK version, but I don't use the built-in IME since I type in PinYin普通话拼音, didn't notice that issue.
If you wanna have a look at the key-mapping, go
/system/usr/keylayout/vision-keypad-hk.kl
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pull it to your computer and open it with text editor, notepad or UltraEdit etc.
The reason its like this is simple.
The hardware keyboard has its own design, made to make our use easier (according to the guys at HTC), however this keyboard still runs on the SAME software used to run the on screen touch keyboard this is why when you do things like long press you still get certain behaviours of the touch keyboard.
You will either need to remap, or just simply get used to the new layout, it will happen over time.
@OP: your key map doesn't match your physical keyboard.
@Lennyuk: No.
Lennyuk said:
The reason its like this is simple.
The hardware keyboard has its own design, made to make our use easier (according to the guys at HTC), however this keyboard still runs on the SAME software used to run the on screen touch keyboard this is why when you do things like long press you still get certain behaviours of the touch keyboard.
You will either need to remap, or just simply get used to the new layout, it will happen over time.
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That's the whole point, the stupid HTC guy think the new key layout will help the user. The truth is they are re inventing the wheel.
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Hi All
Bit of a silly problem this.
I flashed my HTC HD2 with a Windows embedded handheld ROM a couple of years ago. I haven't used this phone for ages and have no idea which ROM I flashed.
Anyway, it all worked fine until one day, I found I was using the compact keyboard (2 letters / key) and I cant find a way to get rid of it and return to the normal keyboard)
IIRC originally there was an input selector icon below the keyboard. But on this ROM all I get below the keyboard are
Windows, Done, Keyboard, cancel, OK
I've tried settings>personal>Input where this is an option for phone keypad and compact qwerty but it is not selected and changing it seems to make no difference to the keyboard in use.
Its driving me nuts so can anyone tell me how I get my regular keyboard back?
TFAI
tap & hold perhaps to top of keyboard icon or slightly to left or right perhaps !
If only . . . .!!
I've almost worn a hole in that part of the screen!!
Normally it tap & hold for about half a second slightly to right on the keyboard.
Perhaps try it with keyboard open or closed.
Could also try tap & slide to left on keyboard icon with keyboard open .
If all fails you could do a search for a sip selector tool that can be used for toggling through sips or use sipchange & select sip you want & set delay to 8sec & soft reboot & it should have loaded your chosen sip once booted.
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Normally it tap & hold for about half a second slightly to right on the keyboard.
Perhaps try it with keyboard open or closed.
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Tap and hold to the right brought up a Text Input settgins window (hopeful but closer examination showed it onoy contained XT9 settings, a tutorial on text input and 'Symbol Lock' + 'Typing Sound'
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Could also try tap & slide to left on keyboard icon with keyboard open ..
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That brought up a single small pane which had 'Touch Input' and a green circle.
Then touch and hold that made it go away
Then touch to the left of the keyboard icon produced the desired menu !!
I mean WoW, how is anyine supposed to work that out!!!
Anyway I donwloaded the cab in case I get stuck again
Thanks for the advice
Glad you worked it out :-S
Is a bit out of the usual on your ROM.
Really needed a more detailed sip icon so was intuitive of left/right tap zones :-/
Most proper roms have htc ezsip built in which also can have a shortcut in programs for activating a full sip selection menu.
if you decide you want a change/improvement I would recommend the NRG custom ROM, link below should you ever want try it.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bhh47jlowm9zph6/Energy.Leo.23699.Sense2.5.Reference.Nov.24.7z
Another one I remembered for sip selection was vjsipswitch.
this pops up a sip menu from shortcut in programs, you can also make advanced shortcuts to select specific sip or have toggle effect
cab & thread link below to round this thread off nicely for anyone who stumbles on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486655