http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/02/05/0422238/google-pulls-support-for-cdma-devices
Holy crap. This seems really bad. At least for those of us on sprint and looking forward to future development. Unless I'm just an idiot and missing something lol.
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Holy crap. This seems really bad. At least for those of us on sprint and looking forward to future development. Unless I'm just an idiot and missing something lol.
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Yea, that's bad. Basically it boils down to this scenario:
Google: Sure you can have ICS on ____ device
CDMA carrier Sprint/Verizon: Well, we'd like over our skin on ICS
Google: We'd like to keep it stock Google
Carriers: We want the skin...
Google: No [and cue that article]
Says its based on the software to make it 'fully functional' Because CDMA device needs carrier binaries to make them work.
There is no way in hell US carriers will open up their binary drivers. This just hurts users on Verizon/Sprint. Does this mean the next Nexus will be GSM only?
man sprint always f##kin up
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man sprint always f##kin up
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Who said it was Sprint only? It ranges to all CDMA made phones not one specific CDMA carrier.
My understanding is that this is Google only.
It has to do with the trying to keep Android compliant with the GPL, and the companies making the CDMA radios are making it difficult so Google pulled out. It doesn't mean no more Android phones on Sprint or Verizon (that would be a bit silly) but it does mean no more Nexus phones on CDMA. It could also mean Motorola will be pulling out of the CDMA market as well.
Then again, this could all be a plan by Google to force the companies to release the drivers. It wouldn't be the first time Google has played hardball with companies. If Google and Motorola both leave, this puts pressure on Sprint and Verizon to push the manufacturers to release the drivers as it leaves them at a severe disadvantage compared to GSM carriers. It's good in a way, but could have some bad consequences down the road if it backfires.
It's nothing to really worry about guys if i can find the article I'll post it but Google came back and clarified why they did it exactly and it was to do with how CDMA phones have certain files stored for them and it caused an issue with compiling from AOSP and all. They still are pushing straight updates to cdma nexus phones as usual too.
Edit: here's one part for the mean time...
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21topic/android-contrib/phz3S5ZdveU
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Found this on Google Groups
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It's nothing to really worry about guys if i can find the article I'll post it but Google came back and clarified why they did it exactly and it was to do with how CDMA phones have certain files stored for them and it caused an issue with compiling from AOSP and all. They still are pushing straight updates to cdma nexus phones as usual too.
Edit: here's one part for the mean time...
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/android-contrib/phz3S5ZdveU.com
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I only quoted this to add .com to the end lol (makes it easier from mobile). Can't get damn page to load.
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Found this on Google Groups
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wow! I just got lost in the rabbit hole for 2hrs on that one lol. Thanks for the find, though.
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My understanding is that it's only a signing issue. It should be resolved
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I thought we'd all get a nice lol out of this ;-)
http://m.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news...coming-and-now-they-are-here/2243?tag=nl.e539
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Sprint ftw
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Sprint ftw
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agreed.. more reasons to be on sprint..
Agreed, what's funny though is they can still get the apk online. But I suppose its a small step in their intentions
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Agreed, what's funny though is they can still get the apk online. But I suppose its a small step in their intentions
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yeah.. pretty sure that anyone that knows how to root to get tether to work knows where to find the apk.
But according to the article the carriers can differ the use of their own tethering services and the use of tethering that Google wanted to be allowed in Android, basically even if it isn't on the market it's less people using the tethering and makes it easier to pinpoint and cut people off.
A) Sprint will likely follow suit
B) I didn't even know it was available in the market lol.
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But according to the article the carriers can differ the use of their own tethering services and the use of tethering that Google wanted to be allowed in Android, basically even if it isn't on the market it's less people using the tethering and makes it easier to pinpoint and cut people off.
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Hmm I wonder how they would go about doing so, and am curious if they are able to if we have removed carrierIQ?
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A) Sprint will likely follow suit
B) I didn't even know it was available in the market lol.
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Sprint's the only company that hasn't followed in the major two's footsteps so far.
First being encrypted locked boot-loaders. Not one phone has been so encrypted that it's impenetrable. Then second being this. I think Sprint's taking the route of T-Mobile and going to support AOSP to the fullest. Of course, it's wishful thinking but on the other hand, it does appear to be the case...for now.
I would lie to know the source of info in that article stating that they can tell when you are tethering. I don't believe that is true. Data should be data. There was another article out and this was not stated, just the block. That is achieved by the market lkooking for the carrier's signature and not showing certain apps, like Verizon's NFL app to Sprint or At&T.
Sorry for the newbie question, but does anyone know how to remove the carrier IQ? It seems that if that is not there then one cannot be detected tethering.
I am a new EPIC user and rooted my phone using the oneclick method and RFS filesystem. Basically rooted just for tethering my tablets to my phone for occassional net access. So how do I go removing sprint's IQ? TIA!
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Sorry for the newbie question, but does anyone know how to remove the carrier IQ? It seems that if that is not there then one cannot be detected tethering.
I am a new EPIC user and rooted my phone using the oneclick method and RFS filesystem. Basically rooted just for tethering my tablets to my phone for occassional net access. So how do I go removing sprint's IQ? TIA!
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Yup. Put on a ROM that has it removed. Read OPs in development ROMs
I had to post here.
I noticed this, and when I went on the website to install it, it said I couldn't "Carrier blocks the install."
I go on my phone, fire up the market, and it lets me install it from there.
So apparently, T-Mo just wants me to download it from my phone, not from their website.
Whatever, I didn't even know that there was a website for the market till like a week ago. xD
Currently, putting a rom on is the only way to remove it.
There its also the factor of how much data is used - generally, a tethered device like a computer or game console would use more data than the phone by itself. If Sprint sees an unusual amount of data being downloaded, they might be able to consider that proof enough (just speculation, I'm not an expert but it is plausible)
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i think sprint cares just a little less because their data plans are truly unlimited. my phone is my only source of internet. i use it to download movies and games and everything else. i use about 9-30Gb of data a month. and 've been doing it for over a year. no one has terminated my contract or throttled my data speeds or anything. they put up with it as long as i pay my bill.
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B) I didn't even know it was available in the market lol.
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use a search engine to find something about app and planet on the net to find an 'alternative market' for things like this 'pulled and/or blocked' wifi tethering app
Lol shame on u, shaaaammee on u lol
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Lol shame on u, shaaaammee on u lol
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<looks around> What ??? It's a 'suggestion'
(contribution to the Android Community I say )
I use so much data and tethering is a small amount. I wonder if they track based on browser?
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Is it possible to flash the sprint nexus 4g to Verizon? If so, how?
Thanks
The short and simple answer is no. If you want the long detailed version look around xda as this gets asked a lot in other cdma phone sections...
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Oh ok thanks. I figured it could be possible since the verizon iPhone was able to flash to sprint. I guess the nexus is different or something.
i would imagine using tools there available online you could in theory get it going on verizon and maybe even get 3g but 4g wouldnt work for sure
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Oh ok thanks. I figured it could be possible since the verizon iPhone was able to flash to sprint. I guess the nexus is different or something.
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When did this happen? You might be mistaken
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I have a verizon prl flashed. It allows my nexus to roam on the verizon network at all times. It increased my dl speeds from 300k to 2mb per second.
You still need sprint service though.
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I have a verizon prl flashed. It allows my nexus to roam on the verizon network at all times. It increased my dl speeds from 300k to 2mb per second.
You still need sprint service though.
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Could you post how you did that? I would like increased 3G speed and coverage. 4G is fine in coverage areas for me. 3.5-5 down avg
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When did this happen? You might be mistaken
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Nope..it's highly possible ..check YouTube and eBay. People even got step by step and so on. So I know it's possible.
I was hoping to do the same thing. Technically it seems like the Sprint ones should be possible.
I poked around the forums trying to find a general answer why this wasn't possible but didn't find any real concrete answer. Can anyone explain why it's not possible or point me to a post that does?
Thanks
Possible, yes. Legal? Not so much.
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The fact that its illegal is why your not going to find a how-to on xda.
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Why would it be illegal?
Root your phone and then download roam control.
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Why would it be illegal?
Root your phone and then download roam control.
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I dont think you understand what the OP is trying to do. He doesn't want to roam on Verizon, he wants to get a Verizon plan and activate his phone on Verizon. That requires falsifying your IMEI and no you cant do that with an app from the market.
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Google is your friend, OP.
You clearly like android, so seek and you shall find
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The hardest part would be getting VZW to add the devices IMEI into their database, impossible, no, but very difficult.
Dan
You guys are really... nvm.
Its the radio chip thats bond to your stupid gay american cariers.
I imported my Ns out of the usa and it works fine on any carier here.
And why? Cuz all cariers here use the gsm-hdsp(or w/e its caled) networks
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You guys are really... nvm.
Its the radio chip thats bond to your stupid gay american cariers.
I imported my Ns out of the usa and it works fine on any carier here.
And why? Cuz all cariers here use the gsm-hdsp(or w/e its caled) networks
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That's cool except this thread has nothing to do with gsm carriers. You wont understand how cdma works. Only our brothers in japan and korea understand the headaches and abilities
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Sprint about to announce new every 6 months upgrade for 2 year price via sprint playbook. I will post link soon... this is for the uber geek like me, but I say make it once every week.
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I need more info on it. Android Central didn't say much. It's a loyalty program so do you have to be with sprint for a certain amount of time? Pay a certain amount (like premeire) have certain types of phones (smartphones? feature phones?)? So many questions and it said it started today x.x
I seen somewhere that's only for sprint employees.
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I need more info on it. Android Central didn't say much. It's a loyalty program so do you have to be with sprint for a certain amount of time? Pay a certain amount (like premeire) have certain types of phones (smartphones? feature phones?)? So many questions and it said it started today x.x
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I am gold baby, gold
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masaidjet said:
I seen somewhere that's only for sprint employees.
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thjis is more than likley truth.
masaidjet said:
I seen somewhere that's only for sprint employees.
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That's what I thought I saw, too, though I can't find it in the Playbook now.
You know i would have a new phone every 6 months is they did this...
Sprint would make so much money if they did this.
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Esteway.619 said:
Sprint would make so much money if they did this.
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I agree. I would have new phones all of the time.
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Agree on this. They should allow us to buy phones as long as were in the 2yr every 6months.
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Here's the playbook
http://m.androidcentral.com/leaked-...ges-new-rewards-program-and-gives-htc-holiday
I'm very sure now that it's for employees only. Doc. 3 says " just for YOU" meaning just for employees, the employees are the only ones who are suppose to see Sprint's playbook.
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Here's the playbook
http://m.androidcentral.com/leaked-...ges-new-rewards-program-and-gives-htc-holiday
I'm very sure now that it's for employees only. Doc. 3 says " just for YOU" meaning just for employees, the employees are the only ones who are suppose to see Sprint's playbook.
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+1 this is what wdm and I said as well
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Avelnan said:
Phones are going to come to life someday. Take note: LG Optimus line. ASUS Transformer. And now the Nexus Prime.
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So sad
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Here's the playbook
http://m.androidcentral.com/leaked-...ges-new-rewards-program-and-gives-htc-holiday
I'm very sure now that it's for employees only. Doc. 3 says " just for YOU" meaning just for employees, the employees are the only ones who are suppose to see Sprint's playbook.
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This better be for us also.
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so no more upgrades after 1 yr?
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Wonder if somehow Sero-premium customers are considered as well???? Probably not, but it would be awesome if we were.
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This better be for us also.
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Or......you'll shake your tiny little fists?
That would be awesome for reg customers...employees currently get full upgrades every year, no different from premier customers
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As a Sprint employee, I say this makes me giddy. I don't know why Sprint didn't do this sooner. How can you sell the latest phones if you're rocking a handset from 2 years ago?
Well, time to apply for a job at Sprint.
An alaskan cell phone company GCI is getting it first:
http://phandroid.com/2011/09/09/sam...00/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Sorry, Sprint, but you were a bit too slow. Alaska’s regional GCI has beaten the nationwide carrier to market as the first U.S. carrier to offer a subsidized Samsung Galaxy S II. Those citizens residing in the colder of the two non-contiguous United States have the pleasure of heading out and picking up what looks to be an unadulterated version of the Galaxy S II for a mere $99.99 on contract. The GSII operates on GCI’s “4G” HSPA+ network and features a dual-core CPU, Super AMOLED Plus display, and more. We suppose with an asterisk Sprint can still be the first carrier to release the Galaxy S II in the continental US, right?
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Phones are going to come to life someday. Take note: LG Optimus line. ASUS Transformer. And now the Nexus Prime.
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Somewhere Sarah Palin is smiling...
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You know it..
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Haha
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Avelnan said:
Phones are going to come to life someday. Take note: LG Optimus line. ASUS Transformer. And now the Nexus Prime.
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Somewhere Sarah Palin is smiling...
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LOL "I can take pitchers o' Russia from my porch and send them to Bristol! You betcha!"
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Somewhere Sarah Palin is smiling...
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LOL ... good one
Actually, sprint could still say something like "the first major us carrier to bring the gs2"..."major" is the keyword there and effectively turns the entire statement into an opinion
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did that alaskan company just import some international models? they look like the international version on the website...
Well, the other countries may have gotten it first but, in my opinion, a bigger battery and bigger screen will be worth the wait
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Yessssssss! Ive been thinking about switching my Epic for the Epic touch. I just don't like that Samsung never keeps up with the updates, we as developers have to find and make custom roms for it and used "leaky" versions. How ahrd is it to release0 the newest android on the epic?!
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Yessssssss! Ive been thinking about switching my Epic for the Epic touch. I just don't like that Samsung never keeps up with the updates, we as developers have to find and make custom roms for it and used "leaky" versions. How ahrd is it to release0 the newest android on the epic?!
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Apparently hard enough.
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interesting, wonder how this will hurt or help Sprint down the road. whats your opinions on this move by Sprint?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443675404578057923410181426.html
Hopefully it's for the better. But that remains to be seen . Only time will tell.
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im wondering if now that japs own 70% if there will be laws/guidelines they can skirt to make our service better since itll now be technically a foreign company since they own 70% now.
Softbank is well known for their heavy lte push. And it's not like it really helps us wimaxers but I think that will be a start in the right direction for sprint especially after that lightsquared debacle.
HERE is a good Article on what's going on. Also more info in THIS Article. Hopefully the Merger / Buyin Takeover will help Sprint Update it's Network quicker. So we can have faster, and better service with more coverage.
Since its an international player, i'm not entirely sure how this will go in the long run. If nothing else, the extra revenue backing should help in the long run i guess.
Sprint sux so badly this can't hurt them any more than they are already. They need a big push in the right direction.
heheh good thing I bought 115 shares of sprint at $3
I saw this today. http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/18/sp...e-after-increasing-stake/?icid=eng_latest_art
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Chad The Pathfinder said:
I saw this today. http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/18/sp...e-after-increasing-stake/?icid=eng_latest_art
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i was reading about that last night on c-net too. sprints up to some ****
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i was reading about that last night on c-net too. sprints up to some ****
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Theyre about to **** up Verizon and att
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Maybe THIS ARTICLE will help everyone understand what they're up to. Sprint is basically positioning itself to have more Broadband Spectrum available then Verizon, or any other US carrier. Which would equal better Service, and Faster Data. Hopefully :cyclops: Giving them an edge they sorely need IMO.
Well I do hope that their service improves!!! But not at the expence of customer service.
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It is always about the money, but we can hope for better service.
At&t is trying to stop it
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To be honest I don't think it can be stopped
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To be honest I don't think it can be stopped
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i dont think so either being that its an international acquisition basically and although shady sprints hostile takeover of clearwire is legal. itll be interesting anyways, something to read and chuckle about while its going on.