Verizon and AT&T block wifi tethering from market. - Epic 4G General

I thought we'd all get a nice lol out of this ;-)
http://m.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news...coming-and-now-they-are-here/2243?tag=nl.e539
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Sprint ftw
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lynyrd65 said:
Sprint ftw
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agreed.. more reasons to be on sprint..

Agreed, what's funny though is they can still get the apk online. But I suppose its a small step in their intentions
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Agreed, what's funny though is they can still get the apk online. But I suppose its a small step in their intentions
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yeah.. pretty sure that anyone that knows how to root to get tether to work knows where to find the apk.

But according to the article the carriers can differ the use of their own tethering services and the use of tethering that Google wanted to be allowed in Android, basically even if it isn't on the market it's less people using the tethering and makes it easier to pinpoint and cut people off.

A) Sprint will likely follow suit
B) I didn't even know it was available in the market lol.
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AproSamurai said:
But according to the article the carriers can differ the use of their own tethering services and the use of tethering that Google wanted to be allowed in Android, basically even if it isn't on the market it's less people using the tethering and makes it easier to pinpoint and cut people off.
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Hmm I wonder how they would go about doing so, and am curious if they are able to if we have removed carrierIQ?
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Kcarpenter said:
A) Sprint will likely follow suit
B) I didn't even know it was available in the market lol.
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Sprint's the only company that hasn't followed in the major two's footsteps so far.
First being encrypted locked boot-loaders. Not one phone has been so encrypted that it's impenetrable. Then second being this. I think Sprint's taking the route of T-Mobile and going to support AOSP to the fullest. Of course, it's wishful thinking but on the other hand, it does appear to be the case...for now.

I would lie to know the source of info in that article stating that they can tell when you are tethering. I don't believe that is true. Data should be data. There was another article out and this was not stated, just the block. That is achieved by the market lkooking for the carrier's signature and not showing certain apps, like Verizon's NFL app to Sprint or At&T.

Sorry for the newbie question, but does anyone know how to remove the carrier IQ? It seems that if that is not there then one cannot be detected tethering.
I am a new EPIC user and rooted my phone using the oneclick method and RFS filesystem. Basically rooted just for tethering my tablets to my phone for occassional net access. So how do I go removing sprint's IQ? TIA!
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imjimmy said:
Sorry for the newbie question, but does anyone know how to remove the carrier IQ? It seems that if that is not there then one cannot be detected tethering.
I am a new EPIC user and rooted my phone using the oneclick method and RFS filesystem. Basically rooted just for tethering my tablets to my phone for occassional net access. So how do I go removing sprint's IQ? TIA!
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Yup. Put on a ROM that has it removed. Read OPs in development ROMs

I had to post here.
I noticed this, and when I went on the website to install it, it said I couldn't "Carrier blocks the install."
I go on my phone, fire up the market, and it lets me install it from there.
So apparently, T-Mo just wants me to download it from my phone, not from their website.
Whatever, I didn't even know that there was a website for the market till like a week ago. xD

Currently, putting a rom on is the only way to remove it.

There its also the factor of how much data is used - generally, a tethered device like a computer or game console would use more data than the phone by itself. If Sprint sees an unusual amount of data being downloaded, they might be able to consider that proof enough (just speculation, I'm not an expert but it is plausible)
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i think sprint cares just a little less because their data plans are truly unlimited. my phone is my only source of internet. i use it to download movies and games and everything else. i use about 9-30Gb of data a month. and 've been doing it for over a year. no one has terminated my contract or throttled my data speeds or anything. they put up with it as long as i pay my bill.

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B) I didn't even know it was available in the market lol.
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use a search engine to find something about app and planet on the net to find an 'alternative market' for things like this 'pulled and/or blocked' wifi tethering app

Lol shame on u, shaaaammee on u lol
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Lol shame on u, shaaaammee on u lol
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<looks around> What ??? It's a 'suggestion'
(contribution to the Android Community I say )

I use so much data and tethering is a small amount. I wonder if they track based on browser?
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Flashing to Verizon..

Is it possible to flash the sprint nexus 4g to Verizon? If so, how?
Thanks
The short and simple answer is no. If you want the long detailed version look around xda as this gets asked a lot in other cdma phone sections...
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Oh ok thanks. I figured it could be possible since the verizon iPhone was able to flash to sprint. I guess the nexus is different or something.
i would imagine using tools there available online you could in theory get it going on verizon and maybe even get 3g but 4g wouldnt work for sure
ram130 said:
Oh ok thanks. I figured it could be possible since the verizon iPhone was able to flash to sprint. I guess the nexus is different or something.
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When did this happen? You might be mistaken
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I have a verizon prl flashed. It allows my nexus to roam on the verizon network at all times. It increased my dl speeds from 300k to 2mb per second.
You still need sprint service though.
tanman21 said:
I have a verizon prl flashed. It allows my nexus to roam on the verizon network at all times. It increased my dl speeds from 300k to 2mb per second.
You still need sprint service though.
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Could you post how you did that? I would like increased 3G speed and coverage. 4G is fine in coverage areas for me. 3.5-5 down avg
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When did this happen? You might be mistaken
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Nope..it's highly possible ..check YouTube and eBay. People even got step by step and so on. So I know it's possible.
I was hoping to do the same thing. Technically it seems like the Sprint ones should be possible.
I poked around the forums trying to find a general answer why this wasn't possible but didn't find any real concrete answer. Can anyone explain why it's not possible or point me to a post that does?
Thanks
Possible, yes. Legal? Not so much.
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The fact that its illegal is why your not going to find a how-to on xda.
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Why would it be illegal?
Root your phone and then download roam control.
eagercrow said:
Why would it be illegal?
Root your phone and then download roam control.
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I dont think you understand what the OP is trying to do. He doesn't want to roam on Verizon, he wants to get a Verizon plan and activate his phone on Verizon. That requires falsifying your IMEI and no you cant do that with an app from the market.
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Google is your friend, OP.
You clearly like android, so seek and you shall find
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The hardest part would be getting VZW to add the devices IMEI into their database, impossible, no, but very difficult.
Dan
You guys are really... nvm.
Its the radio chip thats bond to your stupid gay american cariers.
I imported my Ns out of the usa and it works fine on any carier here.
And why? Cuz all cariers here use the gsm-hdsp(or w/e its caled) networks
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ghost010 said:
You guys are really... nvm.
Its the radio chip thats bond to your stupid gay american cariers.
I imported my Ns out of the usa and it works fine on any carier here.
And why? Cuz all cariers here use the gsm-hdsp(or w/e its caled) networks
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That's cool except this thread has nothing to do with gsm carriers. You wont understand how cdma works. Only our brothers in japan and korea understand the headaches and abilities
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Mobile hotspot

I wanted to ask if you guys have had any luck with using the mobile hotspot without any monthly charges?
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That's something we really aren't supposed to discuss, because it's kind of a gray area legally
But Wireless Tether is a great, free alternative and you don't have to do any serious modifications to the phone with this option, just rooting
If this doesn't satisfy you, you can always send a PM
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Thanks for the information and I had no idea idea about the legal implications....
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What version of wireless tether are you using? I tried 3.1 beta 7 bit couldn't get it working running ec07 miunia beta 4
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Googles wireless tether for root users works perfectly for me just make sure you're selecting the correct profile (Fascinate!) and start up mode (WEXT ad-hoc works best) in the settings!
Still running the eco7clean.
Using latest release of witether from Google.
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Did some digging. I guess the version I was running (2. 0.7) didn't have profile options. Got the latest and greatest, and it is working good.
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Thanks for the recommendations. I am going to give Google wireless tether a shot and let you know if I have any questions. I am running minunia beta 4 (can't wait for 5). So Google tether is free and no extra charges to my awful bill?
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gk438 said:
Thanks for the recommendations. I am going to give Google wireless tether a shot and let you know if I have any questions. I am running minunia beta 4 (can't wait for 5). So Google tether is free and no extra charges to my awful bill?
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Correct, on the app being free. I assume you are grandfathered on unlimited data. If not, be careful.
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Thanks... I was lucky enough to switch to the unlimited plan before verizon took it away. I also bought the continuum thinking verizon would update the phone.. (we all know what happened there ) lol
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gk438 said:
Thanks... I was lucky enough to switch to the unlimited plan before verizon took it away. I also bought the continuum thinking verizon would update the phone.. (we all know what happened there ) lol
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Yeah... but ya know what? Thanks to the Dev's here, VZW and Samsung can both KMA. I don't need em. Even if they had released froyo, how many of us would still be running stock odexed with all bloatware intact? I sure as hell wouldn't.
Didn't think about it that way but you're right. I hate all the bloatware.
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Yeah... but ya know what? Thanks to the Dev's here, VZW and Samsung can both KMA. I don't need em. Even if they had released froyo, how many of us would still be running stock odexed with all bloatware intact? I sure as hell wouldn't.
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Wed be golden if they'd release froyo source. But true about the devs and no need otherwise.
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[Rant] T-mobile: Stop double charging us.

This is a bit of a rant for T-mobile about their hotspot charges. It is unbelievable that such an originally "for the man" kind of company would jump on this bandwagon. I dont care if other carriers are charging for hotspot use, its not fair for them to do it and it is not fair for you either. I have been with T-mobile since the Voicestream days of Jamie Lee Curtis. I had the 3000min plan for many years and rarely used half that most of the time; I just wanted it in case I needed it. This is not the same case with Hotspot. I will not pay an additional charge to use something I already pay for, in a different way. I am not causing any additional network traffic by using a Laptop, than I would on my phone. If anything, I may be enticed to upgrade my data plan because I would be using much more data with the addition of my Laptop.
This type of behavior severely annoys us loyal customers who have stuck with you from the beginning. I hope you will feel the pressure when Verizon launches their new plans on 6-28-12 that INCLUDES FREE hotspot. It may be more expensive, but after all the additional charges are added on a T-mobile plan, it comes down to how much more are you willing to pay for better network coverage.
In closing, I love you T-mobile, we have had many good years with many FREE phones(I love my FREE S2), but, dont make me file for a divorce. /rant
I am well aware of how to get around this. So, if we can, why charge for it? Please feel free to add to this, trolls and all, post it up!
There's a plethora of tethering apps that are un detectable so you don't get charged. especially when you freeze tethering manager..
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JPOKeefe said:
There's a plethora of tethering apps that are un detectable so you don't get charged. especially when you freeze tethering manager..
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Which is the best one?
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suaverc118 said:
Which is the best one?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.googlecode.android.wifi.tether
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JPOKeefe said:
There's a plethora of tethering apps that are un detectable so you don't get charged. especially when you freeze tethering manager..
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I don't think any of the apps are undetectable. Besides the native hotspot manager which directly prevents it, T-Mobile is detecting tethering by checking user agents of browser requests, and I haven't seen any of the apps add hiding the user agent to avoid this.
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I don't think any of the apps are undetectable. Besides the native hotspot manager which directly prevents it, T-Mobile is detecting tethering by checking user agents of browser requests, and I haven't seen any of the apps add hiding the user agent to avoid this.
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cant you change the user agent on most browsers?
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cant you change the user agent on most browsers?
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I find it interesting that I can use Dolphin browser in desktop mode, and there is no problem. Maybe because its dolphin? Also, I dont have a problem tethering on my S2 with Digital.Warefare 2.7 while using a laptop on Chrome. Seems ICS has some changes on the S2 because there are people reporting eventually being directed to the Tmo signup site after tethering for a bit.
You forgot to whine about charging for SMS. :silly:
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You forgot to whine about charging for SMS. :silly:
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Who gets charged for SMS?
You get free texting from t-mobile?
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Who gets charged for SMS?
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More than those who get charged for tethering, but way to miss the point. :silly:
Carriers have a history of charging for anything that they can. The fact that you're so mad about it *now* is hilarious.
It's very easy to get around, so stop whining about it.

I may retire the Supersonic today...

For an HTC One V with Cricket (yes, because of budget issues). I still plan on keeping the EVO, and will even donate it to developers of needed. But my question is, besides the One V, what other HTC no-contract phones do you think I would enjoy after all my time with the supersonic? Something I can modify with OC and UV and sound mods. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated and again, hit me up if a dev needs a perfectly working EVO! Thanks.
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You'd be better off getting a samsung device, less hassle to root and more development due to the easier rooting. Plus all the samsung devices are selling way more than htc now. Lots of ppl have come from the evolte to the sgs3 or note 2 from terrible reception and lte > 3g/wifi handoff issues where the data just drops out til a reboot.
I like to break stuff!
The cricket service on the 3vo is way better than sprint. My of evo gets 1.5 on 3g and the 3vo usually gat about 2.2 on 3g. Yes rooting is a pain but has gotten easier with a bootable CD ROM. Plus for around 100 for a used one with bad ESN how can you go wrong.
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Good advice, I appreciate it. I ended up just flashing the EVO, but immediately afterwards I changed my number on their website and dialed *228 and let my phone reboot, now 3g internet doesn't work at all. Talk and text are fine.
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CyanJustice said:
Good advice, I appreciate it. I ended up just flashing the EVO, but immediately afterwards I changed my number on their website and dialed *228 and let my phone reboot, now 3g internet doesn't work at all. Talk and text are fine.
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I hope you flashed it yourself. When ever you change your number you have to open qpst and change it in there also to get you data to work. Now before you change anything you will want to make sure you read from the phone and then save that information on the pc. I normally call it whatever the old phone number was. Then you want to make sure you write down the IMSI_S number. It is in the cdma tab. Now go through the tabs and change all the old numbers to the new one. Then go back to the cdma tab and make sure the IMSI_S number is correct and then save that profile. Now write to your phone and once it reboots you will have data again.
I got a one v for my gf. its decent. screen is a little small and dont like the sealed battery. sound is good because of the beats audio. as far as rooting, not sure. she wont let me touch it
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I hope you flashed it yourself. When ever you change your number you have to open qpst and change it in there also to get you data to work. Now before you change anything you will want to make sure you read from the phone and then save that information on the pc. I normally call it whatever the old phone number was. Then you want to make sure you write down the IMSI_S number. It is in the cdma tab. Now go through the tabs and change all the old numbers to the new one. Then go back to the cdma tab and make sure the IMSI_S number is correct and then save that profile. Now write to your phone and once it reboots you will have data again.
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This is helpful, when I try it I'll get back to you. I'm at the library now to use internet but can't install such programs here due to policies, ect. I'll try again either tomorrow over the weekend.
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And no, I paid forty bucks to cricket to flash. And when I tried to go to a closer one to reflash they said I had to pay 20 bucks or go to the store I initially flashed at. How lame is that?
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Sure you can hit me up here or my email which would be a little quicker to get any extra help you need. I have flashed two evo's and a 3vo myself and helped out on many more. Plus my last girlfriend liked to change her number every few months so fixing that will be a snap.
Email address coming via pm in a few moments.
If you want to, you can keep using your EVO on Ting (a Sprint MVNO). Ting allows you to BYOD and I've brought two EVOs over without any problems. No overage penalties and refunds for what you don't use.
If you don't use tons of data (or are always within range of wifi), it can be very cheap. If you stream movies all day, it'll cost you an arm and a leg, though.
Think of it as the open-source carrier.
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If you want to, you can keep using your EVO on Ting (a Sprint MVNO). Ting allows you to BYOD and I've brought two EVOs over without any problems. No overage penalties and refunds for what you don't use.
If you don't use tons of data (or are always within range of wifi), it can be very cheap. If you stream movies all day, it'll cost you an arm and a leg, though.
Think of it as the open-source carrier.
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I actually was just on Ting, haha, they're good service but too expensive, I like unlimited data.
Yeah so reflashing with cricket to regain 3g and mms is a no go right now, cricket wants to charge me and I can't do that right now. I'll be sure to shoot you an email in my attempts to get my phone working again.
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CyanJustice said:
I actually was just on Ting, haha, they're good service but too expensive, I like unlimited data.
Yeah so reflashing with cricket to regain 3g and mms is a no go right now, cricket wants to charge me and I can't do that right now. I'll be sure to shoot you an email in my attempts to get my phone working again.
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I am using my og on cricket it is not hard to do.
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I am using my og on cricket it is not hard to do.
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I'm sure it's not, I just don't have a computer or internet connection I can use at my leisure to use cdma workshop and such.
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I am using my og on cricket it is not hard to do.
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I was thinking of flashing to cricket but do i need a special kind of rom or can i use whatever.(currently on maz jb rom-best ever!)
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I've been using DK reincarnation. I messed up msl programming and got it reflashed at a repair place, 3g works but gets an error message every half hour or so and mms is a no go. I'm gonna do it myself when I get the time.
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Just flashed it myself, everything's working perfectly. The PRL I got for Austin is wicked fast, even after my 1GB cap.
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CyanJustice said:
..... The PRL I got for Austin is wicked fast....
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Can I bum that prl from you man, I travel between West Texas and San Antonio too much and always need 3g (if not at least 1x), when I'm in SA. Thanks either way.
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Wambo_Bomb said:
Can I bum that prl from you man, I travel between West Texas and San Antonio too much and always need 3g (if not at least 1x), when I'm in SA. Thanks either way.
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Hang on
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http://www.cricketusers.com/flashin...al-cricket-preferred-roaming-list-thread.html
Enjoy!
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CyanJustice said:
http://www.cricketusers.com/flashin...al-cricket-preferred-roaming-list-thread.html
Enjoy!
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Awesome man. Thanks.

Tethering

I received a letter from Sprint yesterday regarding my tethering usage haha. Anyways, they warned if I continue to do it I will be dropped. My question is do all the 3rd party tethering apps (I use the hot spot hack) show my usage as tethering as well?
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How much were you using?
Tell em if they do you want an etf!! Lol
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joe.stay said:
How much were you using?
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This month I'm at 6gb, 4 being tethering.
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Tell em if they do you want an etf!! Lol
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If they drop me my S4 is given a "bad esn" right? I wonder if I pay an eft if they drop me. I don't care too much anymore as with my career change I get NO service where I go. Ha, I barely get service in normal locations. I've only seen lte in places you wouldn't expect it. I still want the Nexus 5 and will probably do straight talk or that T-mo prepay.
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evo-t said:
This month I'm at 6gb, 4 being tethering.
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How much were you using before this month?
joe.stay said:
How much were you using before this month?
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I never really pay attention, normally around 8GB or more.
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Which build number are you on? When you are logged in to your account online, does it have a separate section that says tethering? Or is it all under the data section? Was it 4g or 3g tethering? wimax or lte?
joe.stay said:
Which build number are you on? When you are logged in to your account online, does it have a separate section that says tethering? Or is it all under the data section? Was it 4g or 3g tethering? wimax or lte?
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Mk2, stock. It's under settings/connections/data usage. What's 4G? Hahaha! Or this lte?? Sounds made up ? it was 3g tethering. I just tether my laptop and watch Netflix and do a lil bill paying and such. Maybe with MK2 and the knox plague sprint has a lil spy ware in there? They've never messed with me before and I've had 11gb+ of data usage before..
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Well, you got caught! You were shoplifting from Sprint and they caught you. Either stop stealing or get cut off. It amazes me sometimes that people are surprised when they get caught. 8GB+ a month on 3G, its obvious that you are tethering. Do I tether, hell yes! But if Sprint caught me, I would stop tethering or pay for the service. With their new lifetime data plans they include 5gb of tethering in one of their plans for cheaper than any other provider. They caught you because of the desktop Netflix sever you were connected to opposed to the mobile Netflix server.
It's kind of funny how xda comes down hard on people that post links to warez or movie/music bootleg sites but they turn a blind eye to stealing from Sprint with hacked tethering. Anyway, good luck with Sprint and keeping your account.
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Well, you got caught! You were shoplifting from Sprint and they caught you. Either stop stealing or get cut off. It amazes me sometimes that people are surprised when they get caught. 8GB+ a month on 3G, its obvious that you are tethering. Do I tether, hell yes! But if Sprint caught me, I would stop tethering or pay for the service. With their new lifetime data plans they include 5gb of tethering in one of their plans for cheaper than any other provider. They caught you because of the desktop Netflix sever you were connected to opposed to the mobile Netflix server.
It's kind of funny how xda comes down hard on people that post links to warez or movie/music bootleg sites but they turn a blind eye to stealing from Sprint with hacked tethering. Anyway, good luck with Sprint and keeping your account.
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Thanks, although I am pretty aware I was caught. I have used mass amounts of data before without tethering. Keeping Sprint won't be a problem as I haven't been tethering. I am not surprised at getting caught, it isn't like I'm crying about the audacity of this company telling me how I can/can't use my unlimited data. I was only asking if anyone knew if a 3rd party app shows the usage as data or tethering still. I will look into this plan you mentioned though.
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