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okay. since Android got it self a forum, i thougt we need a Ubuntu thread. I have no idea if this post belong here, but i belive it needs to be somewhere. I love to have a full Ubuntu running with WiFi at least. The Andriod and Ubuntu thread is overwhelmd with Andriod dev so here i go. If the Ubuntu developers for HD2 want to setup a thread of there own i would love it
Also read the first sticky Linux post for current info and files . Im not a developer just a user hoping for further development on Ubuntu, and i hope im not alone out there
My story so far:
I have used Ubunto now for a while with a USB hub with a mouse, keyboard, soundcard and external power. So far i found Ubunto to be a bit unstable. Feels like its easy to make it drop out. I have ended up with no startmeny and no computer icons, leaving me with just desktop pic and i have to press power/hangupp button to shut it down.
Also playing music in included music player is a bit shaky, sometime i dont get audio and need to change a couple of tracks to get it to play again.
BTW anybody have a password problem? If i want to change time as a example,i need to type a password and its not accepting "ubuntu"?
Also, anybody have managed to get landscape somehow? Would also be nice to get WiFi up and running, so if a dev has any ideas on possible updates on progress would be nice. I have no mobile usb dongle so i havent been able to try that.
So how your experience so far? Type away and lets at least share what we know.
Best regards from me.
ROM, latest NRG cookie dilink glass edition
Radio, 2,12,50
only ubuntu download link i found
gamesquare.co.uk/ubuntuh.html
wow, talkabout being the only one wanting Ubuntu on my HD2. Sorry, wont ask again.
I would definitely be interested in running Ubuntu on my HD2 - it is the OS of choice for my desktop. Is there any bluetooth support at present? I have a BT keyboard / mousepad combo and that would make it very useable for me.
ok but if i don't have a keyboard for my phone and i want to use ubuntu .. i reallt can't use it ? is there any virtual keyboard ..?
Bluetooth and WiFi is currently not working, also no sound.
BUT there is built in usb support. I went to rhe cheepest electronic store and bougt a USB HUB that has its own power adaptor, also som USB cables and adaptors.
A regular pc keyboard, mouse, mobile internet dongle etc. Everything being USB can be used. And i also found in a drawer of mine a usb stick soundcard. So basicly as it is now, all works with some cheep usb tec, but as stated, i have no mobile internet so dont know if it works.I did get to borrow a dongle for like 5min and it found the internet supplyer etc so should work i guess.
Now i realise for some that they might go banana because they cant use Ubuntu without USB gadgets. But thats one reason to try to get the developers attention. If you get to connect some usb stuff(mouse being the least, no k-board if you want to just try it out, i belive you will get hooked on the idea and trying out stuff of your own. I find it fun connecting all old USB stuff i have lying around.
Next step is to add my 1TB usb drive, maybe get to watch some movies.
So, its Ubunto is its birth at least crawling. But with the full attention on Andriod it seems Ubuntu is getting forgotten, hence this thread, so they notice us, and while we wait, try it and report here in lack of space, only wish this could be a sticky or a seperat dev Ubuntu thread because, were drowning in the Android happiness going on.
I will keep testing its 0,1 beta further to se what makes it tick. But im no developer, just a concernd fan, but im having fun, so i report my findings, fun to be in the edge, or birth of something so comon, bring out the dea...ops, i mean bring out your USB gadgets and play, who knows, you might have fun as i.
..oh, sorry for missing one reply here. Found no virtual keyboard so far, this password thing is my biggest concern atm, its like admin rights i need.
Some touch screen implementation is in there, so you can use your fingers to move around and dubble tapp opens SOME stuff and menys. Not very presise but it works if your patient.
Heres a list of USB gadgets im using atm.
HUB: Plexgear, 4 usb ports + 1 data port (its where you plugin you HD2) + power adaptor (Incl in the package)
Mouse: A old Microsoft 2.0 wired mouse and a reaaally sheep wirless mouse, just tried if wireless mouse would work, and i can confirm it does.
Keyboard: A mini keyboard named Zippy with built in blue lights, got to type in style =)
Sound: A no name usb stick not much larger then the usb reciver for a wirless mouse. All it says on the stick is " USB Audio Controller. I belive i heard somthing they going for the amout of 17$ or somthing.
Harddrive: Tryed my 1TB drive, maybe its to large to get recognized or something, but i cant find it atm.
BTW Anybody have a small USB HD lying around they could test?
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okay. since Android got it self a forum, i thougt we need a Ubuntu thread. I have no idea if this post belong here, but i belive it needs to be somewhere.
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'HD2 Android Development' naming is erroneous for that reason. I vote we rename the forum Linux and Android development.
-Most elementary progress is seated in the kernel - which has nothing to do with android in the first place. The kernel is Linux and not android.
-Android is not the only userland usable. As seen here there is ubuntu and other stuff.
edit: Find a thread discussing this issue here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654560
I can fix you ubuntu 0.2 with wifi and all kinds of stuff soon.
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wow, talkabout being the only one wanting Ubuntu on my HD2. Sorry, wont ask again.
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cant wait to boot up ubuntu on my hd2. But still cant even boot up with v0.1.
dcordes, ur great man! love how the team actually progresses to achieve the current state.
just would like to ask issit possible, technically, to tap on gprs while running ubuntu? Was thinking bout it but not technically sure.
wangiles said:
dcordes, ur great man! love how the team actually progresses to achieve the current state.
just would like to ask issit possible, technically, to tap on gprs while running ubuntu? Was thinking bout it but not technically sure.
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you're welcome. yes that's possible I'm working on it as we speak.
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cant wait to boot up ubuntu on my hd2. But still cant even boot up with v0.1.
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Hmm, thats bad. I read the read me file and it booted up nicly. Are you using stock rom or somthing? What happent for you?
What i did was basicly just extract the folder "Ubuntu and copied it to storage card so the Ubuntu folder was in the root of the SD. First try i had no hub or mouse or anything connected just to se if it worked.
Im using latest NRG rom from 24th, cookie Dinik version with 2.12.50 radio, i have 575MB activated.
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I can fix you ubuntu 0.2 with wifi and all kinds of stuff soon.
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woooo, lovly, cant wait to try it out.
linux distro
wich linux distro would it be better for android?
i would say the ubuntu netbook remix
but thats only me...
i can't wait to use it, the kernel its almost done anyway (android), also wouldn't it be possible to swap between the 2 of them? (android and linux) i know you can with a piece of software change between gnome and kde or other in ubuntu, i already used it.
cheers
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in android you just can't keep up with the thread, speak of linux and nobody cares, ndo they know what we are on about?
i don't think so...
I've been using Ubuntu linux as the only OS on my laptop I use for everything (school, work, personal stuff) for about a year now. I absolutely love it, and if it weren't for games and some work stuff, I would also switch to Ubuntu with my desktop. One thing that did give me a lot of headaches on my laptop was my phone though: I've had lots of trouble with the combination of my HD2 and ubuntu/linux (obviously, since M$ does not support linux at all).
But still, I don't really feel the need to have ubuntu on my phone. I'm happy with android because that is supported well by my ubuntu laptop, but I don't see how an OS that has been made for screens of 7" or bigger (taking into account the netbook edition, otherwise I'd say 12") and input by mouse/keyboard can be really useful on a 4" mobile phone.
If you want a debian-based distro that is useful on your phone I'd look at Maemo/Meego: these distro's are more open and desktop-like than android but have been made for usage on a phone (touch)screen. I just have no idea how much work it would be to port one of these OSes.
I respect that people want to tinker around with ubuntu and try to get it to work, but personally I think it is best to have as many as possible developers working on Android itself rather than not-so-useful side projects...
ah well, just my two cents
port linux
to port ubuntu or any other distro to a mobile all you need is the kernel, for htc hd2 its almost ready, on top of the kernel you can put whichever linux u want, maemo android linux whatever u want.
I know that, I was talking about the portability of the OS itself... the software on the OS has to communicate with the right drivers and stuff. Since android runs on HTC devices with similar software, a lot of stuff can be copied. Maemo normally runs on a Nokia device, Ubuntu is mainly developed for x86/x64 hardware, that's why I think they're more of a job to port.
yeah should be quite a challenge but i believe that is what drives this guys, anyway ubuntu is already running on hd2 my concerns are actually the distro to be used that makes it usable, i mean if i have to carry a keyboard and mouse to make it work its not very practical. i rather have a choice to use it or not, regarding the os communicating with the drivers it should be quite straight forward since ubuntu is pretty much plug and play at the moment, it will detect your hardware (drivers).
Does any know if is possibile to connect a pen USB to HD2?
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leo usb host (sponsored by google) gives THIS xda thread from feb last year,
(not very easily, is the actual answer)
i wanna bring this up again. would it be possible to port the usb host kernel patch from the nexus one or desire hd to the hd2 kernel?
+1 bump, i would be interested in this as well. The wiki states current kernel is the problem
http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Status
Code:
USB
Android Debug (ADB) works
Normal USB Ethernet works with patch from mobile-linux-discuss Mailing List - see Contact
USB Host is broken in current kernel (due to battery driver detection not working). see mailing list Contact
but i'm not sure which branch it refers to, .32 should have no problem with this. Should be portable from the N1, since it's the same SoC. We would also need an app for switching between Host and Slave mode
+1 for this feature, would love to copy the camera HQ snaps and upload to flickr while on the move. ALso keeping a backup pendrive with songs/videos will be wonderful too. The possibilities are actually endless
USB OTG / Host thread bump
I would like to bump the thread.
I recall USB host funcionality was successfully implemented to ubuntu distros kernel...
It was ported to android distros with loosing the USB gadjet funcionality (desire and nexus)
... but now there is a new light...
It is fully working on SGS2! this means no more: "android is not built for this"
are there any kernel devs interested in USB OTG for leo?
Is there anyone familiar how it's done in SGS2 kernel and android build so that it just works?
I thought it was the case that Leo does not supply any power to the USB port = tough to power devices :-(
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I thought it was the case that Leo does not supply any power to the USB port = tough to power devices :-(
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Available information says it does not.
Possibly there are some microp commands to trigger some power when OTG is supposed to be active...
After all, power could be injected from an external source (this is how it works under linux distros: Ubuntu on Leo, Debian) so i think this would be the smallest problem
Today I saw that DFT has made the USB host working on WM6.5, so it is only a software limitation , and it is in the current kernel.
I've used an USBHost mode onmy DHD (with a patched kernel for USB host). Actually it can''t provide enough power to other devices, but with some power injection cable the Mass Storage works fine.
Also i saw in the EVO forum a guy who ported a DirectLink Display Drivers, so this will give us a TV-Out option.
So is there anyone working for solution?
Leo usb host development
Although I have not much experience in kernel development I will put all my efforts on figuring out a solution on this issue.
I have a question to ported Host mode to your DHD.
I have heard that when host mode is implemented to the kernel, one must sacrifice USB gadget (on this kernel only). Did you try ADB or multimount to connect to pc?
Host mode was successfully implemented into linux distro kernel and I may be wrong but I recall Dan1j3l mentioned somewhere that he was able to port the Sven Killig's host mode to Leo android kernel as well.
Besides, in the 2.6.37 kernel (CM) for Leo developent tree there are all of the files included, but the problem is that the kernel does not boot yet :/
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Although I have not much experience in kernel development I will put all my efforts on figuring out a solution on this issue.
I have a question to ported Host mode to your DHD.
I have heard that when host mode is implemented to the kernel, one must sacrifice USB gadget (on this kernel only). Did you try ADB or multimount to connect to pc?
Host mode was successfully implemented into linux distro kernel and I may be wrong but I recall Dan1j3l mentioned somewhere that he was able to port the Sven Killig's host mode to Leo android kernel as well.
Besides, in the 2.6.37 kernel (CM) for Leo developent tree there are all of the files included, but the problem is that the kernel does not boot yet :/
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Since there are many (including myself) who are interested in this, maybe we should open a thread for DEVs (tag it with [DEV]) to see who can help with this. Hope that you will be successful with this.
separate [DEV] thread
sure, why not.
One thing I would suggest though
As i hate endless talks in threads (making them hard to get condenced info on the subject) maybe it would make sense to have a pair of threads: one with babbling, second with pure technical info and conclusions.
in case of my progress I am at the stage of reading, pulling trees, setting up environments, reading, reading, reading...
since there is a number of trees with host included I am planning to setup some sort of code visualisation tools to look for similarities and system solutions - will try to implement it further into our Leo kernel
... dont know where it will lead me, but with a little luck...
Just a little update (for those interested)
I managed to succesfully compile and boot a kernel with host patch roughly integrated.
I did not test if the host features worked or not, but at least the process is somehow working, and the source code is not totally messed up.
The symptoms observed within android are USB connection not recognized and no charging (effect of usb gadget functions being cut off; battery/charging driver dependent on usb connection state).
It is obvious that the way is still long, but at least there is some minor progress
I am not going to give up...yet
Whish me luck ;-)
(It's time to setup some gear and read lots more...)
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Thanks for your efforts I am definitely following this closely. Having USB Host would up the usability of this device hundred folds!!!!!
All the best!!!!!!!
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Just a little update (for those interested)
I managed to succesfully compile and boot a kernel with host patch roughly integrated.
I did not test if the host features worked or not, but at least the process is somehow working, and the source code is not totally messed up.
The symptoms observed within android are USB connection not recognized and no charging (effect of usb gadget functions being cut off; battery/charging driver dependent on usb connection state).
It is obvious that the way is still long, but at least there is some minor progress
I am not going to give up...yet
Whish me luck ;-)
(It's time to setup some gear and read lots more...)
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no major updates yet :/
for anyone following...
Sorry for not giving any major update.
I did setup all required hardware, tested, but (as suspected) it didn't work yet.
I had to suspend host related activities due to uni stuff.
I expect to close my remaining issues within a week and get back to getting this bastard to work
cheers
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for anyone following...
Sorry for not giving any major update.
I did setup all required hardware, tested, but (as suspected) it didn't work yet.
I had to suspend host related activities due to uni stuff.
I expect to close my remaining issues within a week and get back to getting this bastard to work
cheers
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Well, you have one person here faithfully following the progress All the best!
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for anyone following...
Sorry for not giving any major update.
I did setup all required hardware, tested, but (as suspected) it didn't work yet.
I had to suspend host related activities due to uni stuff.
I expect to close my remaining issues within a week and get back to getting this bastard to work
cheers
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Hey, how are things coming along? I, for one, am very interested to see the results of your experimentation
why wont devs help u?
erlern said:
Hey, how are things coming along? I, for one, am very interested to see the results of your experimentation
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+1 here too but i cant understand y devs are helping him with getting usb working especially with so many brilliant devs on here!!
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maddoc1007 said:
+1 here too but i cant understand y devs are not helping him with getting usb working especially with so many brilliant devs on here!![/really meant y devs are not elping him me bad
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Hi guys,
Thanks for the support.
Unfortunately I had no time to move anywhere forwards due to tough times at work :/
Comming week is (hopefuly) the last one, as next weekend I am planning to be a master in engineering
To explain the other devs:
the host capabilities of our android device seams a minor benefit, esspecially in comparison to 2.6.35 or .37 ongoing developments.
Let them do these serious stuff and left these /fairly/ simple ports to greenhorns
cheers
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Hi guys,
Thanks for the support.
Unfortunately I had no time to move anywhere forwards due to tough times at work :/
Comming week is (hopefuly) the last one, as next weekend I am planning to be a master in engineering
To explain the other devs:
the host capabilities of our android device seams a minor benefit, esspecially in comparison to 2.6.35 or .37 ongoing developments.
Let them do these serious stuff and left these /fairly/ simple ports to greenhorns
cheers
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Thanks for updating us Take your time then... you are starting your Masters or you are graduating?
Btw, I believe that the devs are not 'helping' because they do not know about this thread in the Q&A... would be nice if you can start a thread with a [DEV] tag. That would really get their attention. Just my 2 cents. I could gladly come up with one if you don't have the time.
Thanks.
Hello everyone,
I have nothing even close to development knowledge, so I have no idea if and how this can be done. Seeing what you guys cook together here though, I am quite sure that what I request should be possible.
As most of you will know, Samsung has removed the USB Host APIs from it's newer firmwares. No one kows why, but a lot of SGS2 owners, including me, dearly miss that feature. (I need it for chainfires DSLR controller)
I love to flash the newest firmwares, am eager to see whats new, and want the improvements they bring. So what I'm asking for, is for someone to "extract" that usb host-functionality from older firmwares and put it in a (cwm flashable ?) package that enables the funktionality for any firmware.
Since our hardware supports it natively it should only be question of software/kernel, right? Would love to see this happening... would hate to flash back to an old firmware.
Any help welcome! Would buy people bringing a solution a beer! cheers
works fine for me on KI3...? I use the usb host function often to transfer photos to a usb for work..
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works fine for me on KI3...? I use the usb host function often to transfer photos to a usb for work..
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I don't really know how it works, but there seem to be different functioanlities. The new firmwares still are usb host enabled, which means you can still connect thumb drives, etc.. though as chainfire states here: http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/103/_SGS2_KI_Samsung_removes_USB_host_support_patches_bootloaders/ 3rd party aplications have been blocked from making use of this functionality.
no one?
...well I guess if it could be easily done chainfire would already be on it. please let me know if anything comes up!
there is a thread concerning this in the epic 4G forums. seems like they don't get usb otg at all, which is why that problem generates some more interest over there. chainfire himself contributes to their discussion. for everybody interested, let's follow what's going on over there. if they find a solution i'm sure we can apply it to the gs2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265221
While i was thinking is it possible to make OTG work on Touch Pro 2?
Any Software or ROM or Kernel updates will do?
You mean like USB Host Mode?
I don't think anyone looked into it. Android or WinMo...
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You mean like USB Host Mode?
I don't think anyone looked into it. Android or WinMo...
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Yeah , that is whats making me ask it, it would be awesome if that Hapenned., by the way is it Possible?
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Yeah , that is whats making me ask it, it would be awesome if that Hapenned., by the way is it Possible?
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(Almost) anything is possible with enough time and determination...
Has it been done already? Not to my knowledge.
'Theoretically' you should be able to get this working. Like Arrrghhh said, anything is possible. I did get a usb otg cable for the rhodium (well, not FOR the rhodium, but 'theoretically' it should work) and found that this function is supported in the specs for our processor chip.
There are drivers and a pretty good source of information here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
I never advanced past the point of realizing that while our phone 'probably' has the hardware to receive input from usb devices it cannot provide them with power to function. You seem to need to use an externally powered usb hub for those drivers to do you any good, and there really isn't anything On-The-Go about carrying around a usb hub and its power adapter! So it was at that point that I gave up. But, there is probably all the information you need in the thread I posted above to get you started.
Please post your findings if you have success/failure
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'Theoretically' you should be able to get this working. Like Arrrghhh said, anything is possible. I did get a usb otg cable for the rhodium (well, not FOR the rhodium, but 'theoretically' it should work) and found that this function is supported in the specs for our processor chip.
There are drivers and a pretty good source of information here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
I never advanced past the point of realizing that while our phone 'probably' has the hardware to receive input from usb devices it cannot provide them with power to function. You seem to need to use an externally powered usb hub for those drivers to do you any good, and there really isn't anything On-The-Go about carrying around a usb hub and its power adapter! So it was at that point that I gave up. But, there is probably all the information you need in the thread I posted above to get you started.
Please post your findings if you have success/failure
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Surely i would, leme work on that!
does the Froyo Build support OTG?
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Surely i would, leme work on that!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250199&highlight=7
its said that OTG isnt working in the Build
So does Android generally support OTG without any software support?
Can i get OTG support by just running in Android? ICS or CM or GB or Froyo?
[i m working on the Win6.5 OTG, ordered Host cable, waiting for it to arrive..]
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250199&highlight=7
its said that OTG isnt working in the Build
So does Android generally support OTG without any software support?
Can i get OTG support by just running in Android? ICS or CM or GB or Froyo?
[i m working on the Win6.5 OTG, ordered Host cable, waiting for it to arrive..]
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That thread isn't talking about host mode, that thread is talking about transferring files via USB mass storage mode....
At any rate, I'm pretty sure the software simply supports it. Getting the hardware to talk properly is the hard part (again, as far as I understand it...)
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That thread isn't talking about host mode, that thread is talking about transferring files via USB mass storage mode....
At any rate, I'm pretty sure the software simply supports it. Getting the hardware to talk properly is the hard part (again, as far as I understand it...)
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i got the Female cable, but it never took the flash drive, dont know why? Tried Zeno's Drivers and Also Leo's too but its not working out, does it require an external power supply?
any one got it working ever?
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i got the Female cable, but it never took the flash drive, dont know why? Tried Zeno's Drivers and Also Leo's too but its not working out, does it require an external power supply?
any one got it working ever?
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No one ever got it working, I thought I made that perfectly clear...
I'm not sure what you need, again there's probably quite a bit of legwork that you'll need to do in order for it to talk on our devices. I don't think you can just "use" the LEO drivers in this case - however, adapting them might be a good place to start.
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i got the Female cable, but it never took the flash drive, dont know why? Tried Zeno's Drivers and Also Leo's too but its not working out, does it require an external power supply?
any one got it working ever?
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I thought I read somewhere that the TP2 can not provide power. You had to use a powered usb hub + device to have a chance at getting it working.
The downside being that you had all this stuff to haul around if you wanted to use an OTG cable.
Hey guys, this is a bit specific but it could really help me out so if you can answer, please do. I'm trying to connect an Xbox One controller through Bluetooth, but I keep getting an incorrect pin error and therefore can't connect at all. It seems a firmware update for the controller broke connections for a lot of phones, but it also still works for many. I'm running stock nougat with the vegito kernel and I'm wondering if it works with either a different kernel or a different rom. If you have the controller and could test it out, I'd really appreciate it. Alternatively, if you somehow know of a way to get it working through other means, that'll also be a huge help.
Thanks in advance