[Q] Question about rooted fire / KFU .92 - Kindle Fire General

New here, love the noob video and thank you. I can't post to the kindle fire utility thread, as a new user, so apologies that this might fit better there.
I have rooted my fire using kfu .92 (modded with burrito 3) and it is working. I'm hoping someone can help me understand, however, why facebook specifically is an app that won't update, won't show in the market (even the android one (not amazon)), and is specifically included in the utilities installation rather than an app I can install myself.
Thanks.

facebook app
So do you have Facebook installed currently it just wont update?

tipzilla said:
So do you have Facebook installed currently it just wont update?
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precisely.

This is one of those situations where you have a fully functional, phone-based app on your phone that is not supported for your device. Just having the Android market does not not mean ALL Android apps are available... it still has knowledge of your hardware, and it restricts you from access to certain apps that it feels are not compatible with your hardware. Thus, since you've effectively sideloaded the Facebook app and it's not available to you in the Android market, the updates aren't available, either.
I believe another example of this is Google Maps. It's fully functional on your Kindle Fire, but not supported via the market.
One solution is to update the Facebook app on your android phone, then extract the updated app from your phone and side load it onto your Kindle Fire. Neall

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Sideloaded books disappear after update

So I got the fire for my sister for Christmas, rooted to install android market, installed apps, games, launcher, sideloaded mobi books and everything was fine. Most of the books showed in documents but the newer ones showed in the books section of the kindle home. After powering back on tonight I received a forced update which removed all the files from the native reader. Anyone know why? I understand its just an eye appealing thing with the shelves and all, and I have fb reader to read them still but would like to have them in the native app as well. The update didn't break root or the market or anything like that. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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I'm seeing the same sort of behavior -- and now items copied via USB (with and without Calibre doing the work) do not show up -- not in Documents, not in Books.
I can launch the files using ES File Explorer, but that's kind of painful just to switch from one book/story to another.
Amazon support has been no help -- they keep saying "press the Sync button" and "are you connected to Wifi?"
what you need to do is go back into the android market, navigate to the Kindle App, and Select "uninstall updates" What happened is the stock kindle app, which nearly everyone agrees is 100 times better, got replaced by the amazon kindle app that other android devices have to use.
If you side-load from calibre, the steps you need to follow to insure they show up in the stock reader app is shown in this video from cnet
http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39...books-show-up-under-books-on-the-kindle-fire/
I agree that your kindle app got automatically updated I would recommend to se if you can roll back changes. If that is not possible you could download kindle fire update from there website and change it from .bin to .zip and open it and look for the kindle app. If that does not work you can flash the that update by changing it to update.zip and flashing it or putting it in the kindle update. Or you can just simply flash modaco and change the automatic settings on kindle app as you reflash.
Hope this works.
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How to hide an update?
I am aware that the kindle app update messes up the books and that uninstalling the update will fix this as i have already done this. Is there a way to hide this update from showing or permanently deleting it from the google play update dir.
What you can do is go to the PLay Store, navigate to the Amazon Kindle app and de-select "automatic updating"
That's not the issue, automatic updating is turned off. When on the play store app if you go to my apps it shows the available updates. I want to hide the kindle app from the update list. Mostly so family and friends stop updating the darn thing then calling me and asking why all the books disappeared.
Tell them not to update it problem solved
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[Q] Unlisted apps in the Google Market

Is there a way to get missing apps to show up in the Android Market? I just did a search for Tumblr/Flickr/Gameloft and their main apps don't show up in the market. Any ways around it or possibly tricking the market into thinking I have a valid device to use these apps?
there are so many threads about this - i can't count them
basically the kf is for the android marked an unsupported device
therefor some apps are missing - you have to sideload them or google for a site where the apk is available
wouldn't editing the build.prop file to include a different device fingerprint from say, a similar high end tablet work?
I did something similar a while back with my droid 1 - spoofed a high phone's build.prop fingerprint, got on the market and got the app I wanted, then changed the fingerprint back.
it should be noted that I did this twice, and on one occasion when I changed the fingerprint back the second app refused to load because it checked device compatibility at startup... but if your app doesnt do that, then you should be home free.
(I'm new to the KF and still getting caught up on the forums, so apologies if this has already been debunked as unfeasible on the KF)
some guys have tried that (i also) - you get troubles with all the amazon apps, because it's no longer a kindle fire - in this case you can go to cm7 also - there it's the same
Sorry for the re-posting the question I guess I didn't see it, but I was thinking about changing the Build.Prop just wasn't sure if any one else had tried it yet. So even with CM7, we will still have a problem?
you don't have a problem - but you don't have a kindle - with cm7 it's like any other android tablet
Curious about this too... Sideloading is a pita.
I remember back in the old samsung moment days we had the same problem but it went away with the first of the custom roms. I already tried to modify the build.prop file with samsung galaxy device info and it didn't work. Hopefully someone will find the magic piece of code...
If you've noticed, the unlisted apps just so happen to be the ones that aren't compatible with your device. Use the browser based store and you'll see.
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download it on ur phone and save it with titanium then restore it with titanium on ur kindle ......thats how i do it
georgeos said:
If you've noticed, the unlisted apps just so happen to be the ones that aren't compatible with your device. Use the browser based store and you'll see.
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If you've noticed, almost every app people sideload works on the kindle. The only thing I've tried to install that didn't was launcher pro and I knew that wouldn't work before I tried it. I was just hoping...
I'd like to be the one that decides what works and what doesn't...
as i said - the kf is a unsupported device for the android market
it is great that it is now displayed as kindle fire - that was not in the beginning
google is shurely not interested to support the amazon device in any way because amazon built its own market
so every app that checks the device is not available, regardless if the app would be working or not
there are some apps on the market where the free version is not shown up but the paid version is
georgeos said:
If you've noticed, the unlisted apps just so happen to be the ones that aren't compatible with your device. Use the browser based store and you'll see.
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It's not as simple as that. For example Skype is available on the Market place, but without a camera or mic it's about as much use as errr a helicopter ejector seat.
However none of the Google suite are available, or even twitter! These are core apps and work just fine on the Kindle!
On the other hand, I've had to download Google Maps, Twitter etc. which all work fine on the KF, but are not in the market.
I don't mind doing that, but it seems that since they don't show up in your market application list, they won't get updated or show needing update. Frankly I'm not sure how I would update to the newer version without seeing the update on my Samsung Galaxy S2, and then searching for and installing the apk file manually.
Ive had issues with unlisted apps mainly, I do get the odd one that.works, but I prefer ones that work for certain flawlessly.
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are you guys running CM7 or the KF firmware? some of the apps you guys are talking about(twitter) show up just fine in CM7, but coincidentally, some apps still don't show up or are listed as incompatible(NBA Gametime 2011-2012 for example), which work fine if you're able to get an apk and sideload them
I am on CM7 and there are quite a few games, primarily Gameloft games, that will not play once sideloaded even though they played fine on the stock ROM. Gameloft Customer Support has said this was an issue that was being addressed in future updates, so we will see.
To clarify: Some of the apks are games I had loaded on the original Amazon ROM and saved to a backup. Some are specific to kindle (ie title includes Kindle Fire version) and fail to even so much as start without FCing. Others state that the device is not compatible.
do this, and all of your wishes will come true:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423184

Google Play on rooted Kindle Fire unable to find common apps

So, I used SuperOneClick on my Kindle Fire and it worked great. I've installed GoLauncherEx and I'm up and running mostly fine. What I've found strange is that, while I was able to find certain apps when searching on Google Play and install them on my Atrix, I can't seem to find all the apps when I do the same on my Kindle Fire. A couple examples of this are: Google Maps and Any.Do. Even when I directly search for these by typing in their exact name they're not on the list that shows. I have tried to install apps that 'aren't compatible with this device', but I guess I'm not surprised seeing the KF is not a full blown smart phone. Still, Google Maps and my Any.Do (a task list program) shouldn't give me trouble. Is there some setting that I'm missing? Has anyone run into this also? Thanks!
skydiverMN said:
So, I used SuperOneClick on my Kindle Fire and it worked great. I've installed GoLauncherEx and I'm up and running mostly fine. What I've found strange is that, while I was able to find certain apps when searching on Google Play and install them on my Atrix, I can't seem to find all the apps when I do the same on my Kindle Fire. A couple examples of this are: Google Maps and Any.Do. Even when I directly search for these by typing in their exact name they're not on the list that shows. I have tried to install apps that 'aren't compatible with this device', but I guess I'm not surprised seeing the KF is not a full blown smart phone. Still, Google Maps and my Any.Do (a task list program) shouldn't give me trouble. Is there some setting that I'm missing? Has anyone run into this also? Thanks!
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You need to edit your build.prop
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Yup. Just need to edit your device ID on your build.prop. Nice and simple.
Google just may be your best friend
If you don't want to edit the build prop flashing a new rom like gede or modaco are already modified to look like galaxy nexus and galaxy tab respectively. Then you can get maps because the kindle does not have built in GPS so it won't show up. Though those roms allow network gps. Hope this helps
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skydiverMN said:
So, I used SuperOneClick on my Kindle Fire and it worked great. I've installed GoLauncherEx and I'm up and running mostly fine. What I've found strange is that, while I was able to find certain apps when searching on Google Play and install them on my Atrix, I can't seem to find all the apps when I do the same on my Kindle Fire. A couple examples of this are: Google Maps and Any.Do. Even when I directly search for these by typing in their exact name they're not on the list that shows. I have tried to install apps that 'aren't compatible with this device', but I guess I'm not surprised seeing the KF is not a full blown smart phone. Still, Google Maps and my Any.Do (a task list program) shouldn't give me trouble. Is there some setting that I'm missing? Has anyone run into this also? Thanks!
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SuperOneClick? Which version are you running? I thought SuperOneClick only worked on 6.3 and 6.2.1
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version
Currently running v6.3.1. So, I guess I just have a stock rooted KF. Correct me if I'm wrong, thanks!
Before I posted here I watched the noob movie and I also looked on google for a solution. There are many different posts and I wasn't sure which would be good to use. Realistically, from what I found (even after searching on this forum too), many people are just saying to 'edit your build.prop'. That's great but edit it to what? Yeah, I understand that I need to change the manufacturer and model, but what are some actual examples so I get the format/syntax correct? Maybe I need to learn to use search better, but I'm surprised there's not a sticky for build.prop examples and the communities responses to those examples so we can build on what others have experimented with (and big thanks to those people!).
I'm also interested in installing CM7 seeing that seems to be a good way to go also. But there's lots of reading to begin to understand what's going on with all that. It's in process...
Thanks.
updated ROM. Done and done.
Took the leap and installed the most recent build of gedeROM. Took just a few minutes and all was done. POOF! All my problems got solved, at least those Android related. Nice work, Devs!
Thanks for the help!

[NEWS] B&N Annoucnes Official Google Play Support

This is a HUGE news in my opinion. Official support for Google Play/Google Apps coming to Nook HD and HD+ soon
Barnes & Noble's press release
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20130502006907/en/Barnes-Noble-Announces-Google-Play™-NOOK®-HD
Engadget's Hands On video of the new support.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/03/...nd-nobles-nook-hd-and-hd-we-go-han/#continued
They say it will be rolling out Over-The-Air and provide access to other Google Apps such as GMail, Maps and Chrome (which is now apparently the new default browser)
I personally can't be more excited for this even though I've been running rooted OS and CM10 SD side by side ever since they became available.
Being able to access Google Play and having official support for many more apps will make HD/HD+ just that much more accessible and usable imo.
Now if only we could the the stock multitasking interface too....
UPDATE: New version number is Version 2.1.0, and you can manually download the update file from Barnes & Noble's website
Just select the Software Update link for the corresponding device and follow the instructions. (You just have to put the update file on the root of your Nook's directory)
I have no idea if it closes any of the rooting exploits, but my impression has been that since we got CWM working, we don't really have to worry about not being able to root now. Still please be cautious if you don't want to risk possibly losing the ability to root/downgrade/run custom ROMs. Just wait it out until the wise wizards of the forum figures out exactly what's going on.
That is fantastic news!! Will go and spread it now! Wow!! :good:
can't install downloaded apk apps...fail once again by B&N
I can confirm that keyboard and launchers downloaded from Play Store works as well as they did with previous "manual" installations.
There are still quite some apps that are just listed as "incompatible" from the Play Store, but having Maps and Chrome running without a fuss is great.
The paper-textured dock has been also been changed in favour of sleeker dark one, (with white icons in place of black ones now) and it seems like "white-on-white" problem is resolved too. (Might have to try out more apps though.)
I can confirm that Universal Root zip still works. Took me a while to straighten out the Play Store though. But it works too, even if you had flashed my gapps zip. May take me a while to test everything to be sure the zips still work.
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Just for kicks I unrooted, erased and deregistered before updating to be sure to have absolutley stock setup. And it's working beautifully!
I have installed all my favourite apps with no problem at all.
I seems to me like the general UI is running a bit smoother than before.
And there is widget support in the stock launcher! (Maybe that was tehre before, but I ran ADW Ex right from the start, so I ddn't explore stock that much before.)
Edit: Making one nice discovery after another! Voice search works! And Zinio works as well. I thought maybe they would have found a way to block their competition in the magazine market, but no!
asawi said:
Just for kicks I unrooted, erased and deregistered before updating to be sure to have absolutley stock setup. And it's working beautifully!
I have installed all my favourite apps with no problem at all.
I seems to me like the general UI is running a bit smoother than before.
And there is widget support in the stock launcher! (Maybe that was tehre before, but I ran ADW Ex right from the start, so I ddn't explore stock that much before.)
Edit: Making one nice discovery after another! Voice search works! And Zinio works as well. I thought maybe they would have found a way to block their competition in the magazine market, but no!
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Do you think we will be able to sideload apps and install them through file explorer apps?
Ironically, I bit the bullet and installed the CM 10 Hybrid SD Rom less than 12 hours ago (after using stock root for some time).
Part of me is hoping this configuration has some advantages over the new BN stock but I'd love to hear from people about the advantages/disadvantages of using CM10 vs. the new BN stock so I can make a firm decision about which ROM I'll use daily.
Thanks in advance.
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Do you think we will be able to sideload apps and install them through file explorer apps?
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Not right away "out of the box" as it looks. I suspect rooting will be needed to "enable unknown sources", but I'd love to be wrong. Can't test right now though.
sayw0rd said:
Do you think we will be able to sideload apps and install them through file explorer apps?
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Nope
Currently running stock with the latest update, no root. Just tried to install the amazon app store via astro and get the message that install is blocked for applications not obtained from the app store (or google play)
Tierneykev said:
Nope
Currently running stock with the latest update, no root. Just tried to install the amazon app store via astro and get the message that install is blocked for applications not obtained from the app store (or google play)
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okay so I guess this is a pointless update for me then
This is definitely an improvement: I ditched my other launcher now that I can put non-BN apps and widgets on the homescreen. But I still can't install some of my favorite apps, like Yelp. These and others are listed as incompatible.
What version of Android is the latest stock Nook HD+ running? Is it still on ICS?
That is very cool. I'm not near my Nook now but I hope with this new version it will now show apps loaded from play store in the app drawer as well as in the recent apps?
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jm9843 said:
What version of Android is the latest stock Nook HD+ running? Is it still on ICS?
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Yes, still 4.0.4
kunchers said:
I still can't install some of my favorite apps, like Yelp. These and others are listed as incompatible.
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It may be due to missing hardware features. They have added network location provider to this new release so many apps that need location are now compatible but other missing hardware like GPS or camera may still rule out many apps. GPS location can be added via patch, many apps claim to need it.
Yeah, I noticed the new location features in the update and was hoping that it would make apps like Yelp compatible. You mentioned a patch for GPS?
fanoush said:
Yes, still 4.0.4
It may be due to missing hardware features. They have added network location provider to this new release so many apps that need location are now compatible but other missing hardware like GPS or camera may still rule out many apps. GPS location can be added via patch, many apps claim to need it.
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Yeah, I noticed the new location features in the update and was hoping that it would make apps like Yelp compatible. You mentioned a patch for GPS?
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Yes, it is included in leapinlar's location services rev 1 patch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 it adds android.hardware.location.gps.xml to device hardware features (and with bluetooth gps and Bluetooth GPS app it even works inside apps).
Not sure if Yelp specifically needs GPS though.
So we have "Official" support for installing the kindle app on our nooks now.
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Might be worth checking out -- thanks!
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Yes, it is included in leapinlar's location services rev 1 patch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 it adds android.hardware.location.gps.xml to device hardware features (and with bluetooth gps and Bluetooth GPS app it even works inside apps).
Not sure if Yelp specifically needs GPS though.
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xdatoast said:
Ironically, I bit the bullet and installed the CM 10 Hybrid SD Rom less than 12 hours ago (after using stock root for some time).
Part of me is hoping this configuration has some advantages over the new BN stock but I'd love to hear from people about the advantages/disadvantages of using CM10 vs. the new BN stock so I can make a firm decision about which ROM I'll use daily.
Thanks in advance.
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I haven't tried new stock yet, but the things that kept me going back to CM10 even after I had stock rooted and Play installed were the ICS/Jellybean recent apps display and the incompatibility of some apps. If they let launchers override the native notification bar, on-screen buttons and recent apps, I'd probably run straight stock.

Don't Update Fire TV as New Update Removes Sideloading (Unconfirmed Reports)

Don't Update Fire TV as New Update Removes Sideloading (Unconfirmed Reports)
Fire TV 51.1.5.0_user_515020820. Fire Stick TV54.1.1.0_user_110035420.
"Just installed it folks. Fantastic upgrade. Love the new Shortcuts menu.
Only one hitch: you can’t run sideloaded apps anymore. So no Kodi."
Polly Wally McDougal
http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire...-tv-stick-update-54-1-1-0-have-been-released/
my kodi 14.2 rc1 runs with the new firestick update
ISMADDER said:
Don't Update Fire TV as New Update Removes Sideloading (Unconfirmed Reports)
Fire TV 51.1.5.0_user_515020820. Fire Stick TV54.1.1.0_user_110035420.
"Just installed it folks. Fantastic upgrade. Love the new Shortcuts menu.
Only one hitch: you can’t run sideloaded apps anymore. So no Kodi."
Polly Wally McDougal
http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire...-tv-stick-update-54-1-1-0-have-been-released/
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You got trolled brother.
ISMADDER said:
Don't Update Fire TV as New Update Removes Sideloading (Unconfirmed Reports)
Fire TV 51.1.5.0_user_515020820. Fire Stick TV54.1.1.0_user_110035420.
"Just installed it folks. Fantastic upgrade. Love the new Shortcuts menu.
Only one hitch: you can’t run sideloaded apps anymore. So no Kodi."
Polly Wally McDougal
http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire...-tv-stick-update-54-1-1-0-have-been-released/
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That commenter is definitely trolling. Several others confirmed that sideloading still works. I've delete the comment to prevent any further panic/confusion.
updating
I would like to remind you guys that Kodi is on the Amazon app store, therefore you don't need to panic in the case any of the previous comments is true.
this might be true, been trying with adbfire 1.22 keep getting loop install bar
nevermind was able to sidled still after update
I wish people would stop getting nervous about third party app support being taken away, cause that is never gonna happen. Amazon even went above and beyond to make it easy for us to have third party apps, and they are not gonna take it away. Amazon knows the Fire TV would be useless without third party apps and they are smart enough to know that they need to provide an easy way to let us install them. Stop being silly, we are never ever gonna lose the ability to install third party apps, PERIOD. Sure Amazon does not want us to use the third party launcher so disabled wallpapers, but if you made the Fire TV you would also want people to only use your lanchers that has all your media for sell on the home screen, cause thats how they make money, but third party apps are different, and Ammazon is not dumb enough to try and stop us from installing any app we want to install. The only reason people think this s because some people had a problem with one of the firmwares and reported XBMC stopped working on it, but it as just a bug and nothing Amazon did to block it and it was promply fixed. Stop being so paranoid, cause Kodi and any other app that will run on the Fire TV is here to stay. Do you honestly think that Amazon would have went to the trouble of giving us a button to turn on installing app from unknown sources if they did not want us to install third party apps? Hell no they wouldn't have. They could care less what we install or they would not have gave us the button in the first place. Put it to rest, sideloading apps will never never never never never never stop on the Fire TV.
It's also extremely hard to block sideloading yet still allow developers to test apps on the device - so it won't ever go away.
i just tried sideloading towel root to my fire tv now it has no adb connect, says no device connected, wont connect to adb shell either. any ideas or suggetions. thanks.
TowelRoot won´t work and concerning ADB you have to enable it first:
https://developer.amazon.com/appsandservices/solutions/devices/fire-tv/docs/connecting-adb
I got the new update and all my sideloaded apps still works.
Side load is still possible if you have dropbox
moeduss said:
i just tried sideloading towel root to my fire tv now it has no adb connect, says no device connected, wont connect to adb shell either. any ideas or suggetions. thanks.
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You can still side load apps on the Amazon FireStick or TV by using the method described in my video:
Check out NERDHACKS101 on youtube
(You need to have Dropbox on your Amazon FireTV or FireStick.)
moeduss said:
i just tried sideloading towel root to my fire tv now it has no adb connect, says no device connected, wont connect to adb shell either. any ideas or suggetions. thanks.
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I can only assume you didnt enable adb on your aftv
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mods, I suggest you please delete or lock this thread. it wasn;t accurate 4 months ago and people bumping it will just cause more confusion and rumors.
tekweezle said:
mods, I suggest you please delete this thread. it wasn;t accurate 4 months ago and people bumping it will just cause more confusion and rumors.
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+ 1 for this.

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