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[Q] Trick Android Market into thinking your kindle is another device?

Is there any way to trick Android into thinking the kindle fire is another device or disable the market filtering in general. On my rooted kindle I have android market installed and it filters out lots of apps,(Facebook, Twitter, and other apps that I would like to get) and for some of the apps it seems there is no reason to filter them. So if someone knows a way around this please reply.
Thanks in advance,
Andyspam

Idk if it would work but you could try edit the build prompt to make it "another device" Idk if it would work but it's a place to start
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CrackMonkey91 said:
Idk if it would work but you could try edit the build prompt to make it "another device" Idk if it would work but it's a place to start
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But that might cause problems with the Amazon-specific apps if you're trying to keep the functionality.

CrackMonkey91 said:
Idk if it would work but you could try edit the build prompt to make it "another device" Idk if it would work but it's a place to start
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I may sound kind of noobish but how do I locate and edit the build prompt?

My advice to you is to side load apps that you can't download natively from the store rather than try and fool the market. I think by you trying to modify system files to change the device name is going to potentially cause you more hurt than it's going to gain you.
My 2 cents.

Yes, sildeloading will be your safest bet if you re not sure what you are doing,
and for a good facebook app , search for facebook 2.0 v2.2 (ithink that's the latest)
I don't think the official one is quite updated for tablets.

Most twitter apps need you to have google maps installed (or more importantly, one of the google map frameworks)

What about tricking apps into thinking that we're running Honeycomb in order to get the tablet interface on apps like IMDB and Gmail?

[Q] Unlisted apps in the Google Market

Is there a way to get missing apps to show up in the Android Market? I just did a search for Tumblr/Flickr/Gameloft and their main apps don't show up in the market. Any ways around it or possibly tricking the market into thinking I have a valid device to use these apps?

there are so many threads about this - i can't count them
basically the kf is for the android marked an unsupported device
therefor some apps are missing - you have to sideload them or google for a site where the apk is available

wouldn't editing the build.prop file to include a different device fingerprint from say, a similar high end tablet work?
I did something similar a while back with my droid 1 - spoofed a high phone's build.prop fingerprint, got on the market and got the app I wanted, then changed the fingerprint back.
it should be noted that I did this twice, and on one occasion when I changed the fingerprint back the second app refused to load because it checked device compatibility at startup... but if your app doesnt do that, then you should be home free.
(I'm new to the KF and still getting caught up on the forums, so apologies if this has already been debunked as unfeasible on the KF)

some guys have tried that (i also) - you get troubles with all the amazon apps, because it's no longer a kindle fire - in this case you can go to cm7 also - there it's the same

Sorry for the re-posting the question I guess I didn't see it, but I was thinking about changing the Build.Prop just wasn't sure if any one else had tried it yet. So even with CM7, we will still have a problem?

you don't have a problem - but you don't have a kindle - with cm7 it's like any other android tablet

Curious about this too... Sideloading is a pita.
I remember back in the old samsung moment days we had the same problem but it went away with the first of the custom roms. I already tried to modify the build.prop file with samsung galaxy device info and it didn't work. Hopefully someone will find the magic piece of code...

If you've noticed, the unlisted apps just so happen to be the ones that aren't compatible with your device. Use the browser based store and you'll see.
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download it on ur phone and save it with titanium then restore it with titanium on ur kindle ......thats how i do it

georgeos said:
If you've noticed, the unlisted apps just so happen to be the ones that aren't compatible with your device. Use the browser based store and you'll see.
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If you've noticed, almost every app people sideload works on the kindle. The only thing I've tried to install that didn't was launcher pro and I knew that wouldn't work before I tried it. I was just hoping...
I'd like to be the one that decides what works and what doesn't...

as i said - the kf is a unsupported device for the android market
it is great that it is now displayed as kindle fire - that was not in the beginning
google is shurely not interested to support the amazon device in any way because amazon built its own market
so every app that checks the device is not available, regardless if the app would be working or not
there are some apps on the market where the free version is not shown up but the paid version is

georgeos said:
If you've noticed, the unlisted apps just so happen to be the ones that aren't compatible with your device. Use the browser based store and you'll see.
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It's not as simple as that. For example Skype is available on the Market place, but without a camera or mic it's about as much use as errr a helicopter ejector seat.
However none of the Google suite are available, or even twitter! These are core apps and work just fine on the Kindle!

On the other hand, I've had to download Google Maps, Twitter etc. which all work fine on the KF, but are not in the market.
I don't mind doing that, but it seems that since they don't show up in your market application list, they won't get updated or show needing update. Frankly I'm not sure how I would update to the newer version without seeing the update on my Samsung Galaxy S2, and then searching for and installing the apk file manually.

Ive had issues with unlisted apps mainly, I do get the odd one that.works, but I prefer ones that work for certain flawlessly.
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are you guys running CM7 or the KF firmware? some of the apps you guys are talking about(twitter) show up just fine in CM7, but coincidentally, some apps still don't show up or are listed as incompatible(NBA Gametime 2011-2012 for example), which work fine if you're able to get an apk and sideload them

I am on CM7 and there are quite a few games, primarily Gameloft games, that will not play once sideloaded even though they played fine on the stock ROM. Gameloft Customer Support has said this was an issue that was being addressed in future updates, so we will see.
To clarify: Some of the apks are games I had loaded on the original Amazon ROM and saved to a backup. Some are specific to kindle (ie title includes Kindle Fire version) and fail to even so much as start without FCing. Others state that the device is not compatible.

do this, and all of your wishes will come true:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423184

[NEWS] B&N Annoucnes Official Google Play Support

This is a HUGE news in my opinion. Official support for Google Play/Google Apps coming to Nook HD and HD+ soon
Barnes & Noble's press release
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20130502006907/en/Barnes-Noble-Announces-Google-Play™-NOOK®-HD
Engadget's Hands On video of the new support.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/03/...nd-nobles-nook-hd-and-hd-we-go-han/#continued
They say it will be rolling out Over-The-Air and provide access to other Google Apps such as GMail, Maps and Chrome (which is now apparently the new default browser)
I personally can't be more excited for this even though I've been running rooted OS and CM10 SD side by side ever since they became available.
Being able to access Google Play and having official support for many more apps will make HD/HD+ just that much more accessible and usable imo.
Now if only we could the the stock multitasking interface too....
UPDATE: New version number is Version 2.1.0, and you can manually download the update file from Barnes & Noble's website
Just select the Software Update link for the corresponding device and follow the instructions. (You just have to put the update file on the root of your Nook's directory)
I have no idea if it closes any of the rooting exploits, but my impression has been that since we got CWM working, we don't really have to worry about not being able to root now. Still please be cautious if you don't want to risk possibly losing the ability to root/downgrade/run custom ROMs. Just wait it out until the wise wizards of the forum figures out exactly what's going on.

That is fantastic news!! Will go and spread it now! Wow!! :good:

can't install downloaded apk apps...fail once again by B&N

I can confirm that keyboard and launchers downloaded from Play Store works as well as they did with previous "manual" installations.
There are still quite some apps that are just listed as "incompatible" from the Play Store, but having Maps and Chrome running without a fuss is great.
The paper-textured dock has been also been changed in favour of sleeker dark one, (with white icons in place of black ones now) and it seems like "white-on-white" problem is resolved too. (Might have to try out more apps though.)

I can confirm that Universal Root zip still works. Took me a while to straighten out the Play Store though. But it works too, even if you had flashed my gapps zip. May take me a while to test everything to be sure the zips still work.
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Just for kicks I unrooted, erased and deregistered before updating to be sure to have absolutley stock setup. And it's working beautifully!
I have installed all my favourite apps with no problem at all.
I seems to me like the general UI is running a bit smoother than before.
And there is widget support in the stock launcher! (Maybe that was tehre before, but I ran ADW Ex right from the start, so I ddn't explore stock that much before.)
Edit: Making one nice discovery after another! Voice search works! And Zinio works as well. I thought maybe they would have found a way to block their competition in the magazine market, but no!

asawi said:
Just for kicks I unrooted, erased and deregistered before updating to be sure to have absolutley stock setup. And it's working beautifully!
I have installed all my favourite apps with no problem at all.
I seems to me like the general UI is running a bit smoother than before.
And there is widget support in the stock launcher! (Maybe that was tehre before, but I ran ADW Ex right from the start, so I ddn't explore stock that much before.)
Edit: Making one nice discovery after another! Voice search works! And Zinio works as well. I thought maybe they would have found a way to block their competition in the magazine market, but no!
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Do you think we will be able to sideload apps and install them through file explorer apps?

Ironically, I bit the bullet and installed the CM 10 Hybrid SD Rom less than 12 hours ago (after using stock root for some time).
Part of me is hoping this configuration has some advantages over the new BN stock but I'd love to hear from people about the advantages/disadvantages of using CM10 vs. the new BN stock so I can make a firm decision about which ROM I'll use daily.
Thanks in advance.

sayw0rd said:
Do you think we will be able to sideload apps and install them through file explorer apps?
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Not right away "out of the box" as it looks. I suspect rooting will be needed to "enable unknown sources", but I'd love to be wrong. Can't test right now though.

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Do you think we will be able to sideload apps and install them through file explorer apps?
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Nope
Currently running stock with the latest update, no root. Just tried to install the amazon app store via astro and get the message that install is blocked for applications not obtained from the app store (or google play)

Tierneykev said:
Nope
Currently running stock with the latest update, no root. Just tried to install the amazon app store via astro and get the message that install is blocked for applications not obtained from the app store (or google play)
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okay so I guess this is a pointless update for me then

This is definitely an improvement: I ditched my other launcher now that I can put non-BN apps and widgets on the homescreen. But I still can't install some of my favorite apps, like Yelp. These and others are listed as incompatible.

What version of Android is the latest stock Nook HD+ running? Is it still on ICS?

That is very cool. I'm not near my Nook now but I hope with this new version it will now show apps loaded from play store in the app drawer as well as in the recent apps?
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jm9843 said:
What version of Android is the latest stock Nook HD+ running? Is it still on ICS?
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Yes, still 4.0.4
kunchers said:
I still can't install some of my favorite apps, like Yelp. These and others are listed as incompatible.
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It may be due to missing hardware features. They have added network location provider to this new release so many apps that need location are now compatible but other missing hardware like GPS or camera may still rule out many apps. GPS location can be added via patch, many apps claim to need it.

Yeah, I noticed the new location features in the update and was hoping that it would make apps like Yelp compatible. You mentioned a patch for GPS?
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Yes, still 4.0.4
It may be due to missing hardware features. They have added network location provider to this new release so many apps that need location are now compatible but other missing hardware like GPS or camera may still rule out many apps. GPS location can be added via patch, many apps claim to need it.
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kunchers said:
Yeah, I noticed the new location features in the update and was hoping that it would make apps like Yelp compatible. You mentioned a patch for GPS?
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Yes, it is included in leapinlar's location services rev 1 patch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 it adds android.hardware.location.gps.xml to device hardware features (and with bluetooth gps and Bluetooth GPS app it even works inside apps).
Not sure if Yelp specifically needs GPS though.

So we have "Official" support for installing the kindle app on our nooks now.
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Might be worth checking out -- thanks!
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Yes, it is included in leapinlar's location services rev 1 patch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 it adds android.hardware.location.gps.xml to device hardware features (and with bluetooth gps and Bluetooth GPS app it even works inside apps).
Not sure if Yelp specifically needs GPS though.
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xdatoast said:
Ironically, I bit the bullet and installed the CM 10 Hybrid SD Rom less than 12 hours ago (after using stock root for some time).
Part of me is hoping this configuration has some advantages over the new BN stock but I'd love to hear from people about the advantages/disadvantages of using CM10 vs. the new BN stock so I can make a firm decision about which ROM I'll use daily.
Thanks in advance.
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I haven't tried new stock yet, but the things that kept me going back to CM10 even after I had stock rooted and Play installed were the ICS/Jellybean recent apps display and the incompatibility of some apps. If they let launchers override the native notification bar, on-screen buttons and recent apps, I'd probably run straight stock.

Install latest youtube on FireOS 4.5.3 and be able to login WITHOUT ROOT(!!!)

I am running FireOS 4.5.3 on Fire HDX 7" and it is not (and never has been) rooted.
Settings > Applications > Apps from unknown sources is On
I have the file manager with zip support installed.
Uninstall any versions of the 5 apks mentioned below.
Download this zip file:
https://mega.co.nz/#!OItCnSSA!VqBqlbwUa3h5VR0bmIXmRVBq4UeYo5bhBmzmflml3Vk
Open or extract it and install the apks in this order:
account manager 4.0.3
framework 4.0.4
play services 7.3.29
playstore 4.3.10
youtube 10.16.53
Reboot the tablet.
Go to youtube and you should get that normal google account login screen.
Login and presto! There you have it latest youtube apk with sign in ability.
Hasn't crashed on me (yet), but play store does not work (I've tried a few versions).
Yes I am aware of that youtube app with the blue icon in the amazon app store but I wasn't satisfied with it.
I haven't tried any other google apps yet with this combo.
I really hope this works for others. I just spent the last 5-6 hours figuring this out and it's now nearly 2am.

works for me

Youtube works.
Not for playstore gmail.

Oh that's cool I'm glad it's worked for others.
I just wanted to give something back to this forum cause I've gone to it so many times myself.

Found a gmail apk that works

Don't want to burst your bubble, but someone already figured out how to get YouTube to work on unrooted devices (along with other Google apps): http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/themes-apps/how-to-install-gapps-root-t2954372

Yes true but that guy (at end of thread) is 4.5.2 and has to execute some kinda command I don't. Lemme have my glory! Lol

Thanks. Works for me. How about Chrome?

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Thanks. Works for me. How about Chrome?
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Chrome should work regardless of framework (at least it did last time I tried). If not try Opera. Same underlying engine (Chromium) with a different skin.

mrw187 said:
Yes true but that guy (at end of thread) is 4.5.2 and has to execute some kinda command I don't. Lemme have my glory! Lol
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That command is for Google+ to work. It's not needed if you don't use G+. But at least you provided newer versions.

Is it just me, or does doing this break other apps? Skype won't work properly (no contacts or message history), TuneIn radio won't even get past the initial screen. Why is this happening? Sorry I'm new to this stuff.
I should add that uninstalling these packages then causes everything to work again, so it does seem to be causing it.

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Is it just me, or does doing this break other apps? Skype won't work properly (no contacts or message history), TuneIn radio won't even get past the initial screen. Why is this happening? Sorry I'm new to this stuff.
I should add that uninstalling these packages then causes everything to work again, so it does seem to be causing it.
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Installing Google framework/services/store/etc on Fire OS is always a crap shoot as Amazon has its own set of conflicting services. Many get it to work (at least partially) while others experience problems. Installing framework/services on an unrooted device presents additional challenges....but also adds a layer of safety as you can typically install/experiment/uninstall without serious consequences. Unfortunately, I don't have an answer to your current situation; responding to "why is this happening?". You'll probably get it to work eventually with help from others.

That makes sense. I did manage to get Skype 5.1 working but anything after that breaks. Must have added a new feature since then that gets into that services conflict you mention. No luck with TuneIn, though I found an alternative for that.

Any word on a working play store app? Wife got a Fire Tablet today on 4.5.3 and so far its unrootable and most google things arent working. Thinking about a new tablet at this point.

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Any word on a working play store app? Wife got a Fire Tablet today on 4.5.3 and so far its unrootable and most google things arent working. Thinking about a new tablet at this point.
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If your family is looking for unfettered access to the play store you should definitely look for another device. It will be awhile before alternative roms become available to newer Kindles and most play store implementations are hacks at best. While the hardware is wonderful you really have to be wed to the Amazon ecosystem to truly appreciate the device (or be fortunate enough to have an 'older' model that can be rooted/unlocked and run a Google friendly rom).

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If your family is looking for unfettered access to the play store you should definitely look for another device. It will be awhile before alternative roms become available to newer Kindles and most play store implementations are hacks at best. While the hardware is wonderful you really have to be wed to the Amazon ecosystem to truly appreciate the device (or be fortunate enough to have an 'older' model that can be rooted/unlocked and run a Google friendly rom).
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I appreciate the frank reply. I was able to set her up with Chrome and Gmail which were her main concerns. The 1Mobile 3rd party marketplace had any of the other apps she was looking for. I also finished moving all her books over so she's going to take it for a spin this weekend when we head to the beach for a night and see how it goes.

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I appreciate the frank reply. I was able to set her up with Chrome and Gmail which were her main concerns. The 1Mobile 3rd party marketplace had any of the other apps she was looking for. I also finished moving all her books over so she's going to take it for a spin this weekend when we head to the beach for a night and see how it goes.
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If you are comfortable with 1moble (one of my favorite 'alternative' marketplaces) then many of the shortcomings inherent with the Amazon store can be mitigated. Chrome (more often Gmail) can get fussy without google services/framework. Opera is a nice alternative that utilizes the same core engine as Chrome. Gmail is a little tougher to directly emulate; plenty of alternatives if the Gmail app coughs up a fur ball (I happen to like Aquamail). You really don't need root but if you choose to do so Xposed framework adds a few nice touches that can further tame an HDX without compromising native functionality.
Hope it works out for you folks.

You can run Google services framework without root. People have been having issues with the newer builds however. If it does not work for you, try build version 7.0.99.
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You can run Google services framework without root. People have been having issues with the newer builds however. If it does not work for you, try build version 7.0.99.
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That will work for now (thanks @lekofraggle for the tip) but be aware Google is quickly adapting apps to leverage capabilities introduced in newer builds of services framework. For now that appears confined to Maps and Google Now (eg: card features) and primarly targets Lollipop.

You are welcome. I know about the impending issue with Google play services. Hopefully they fix the issues soon. Google maps works for now but complains.
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Am i doing something wrong with my nook

Hi guys
i hope am not posting this in the wrong section
i have rooted my nook simple touch glow light with glownooter everything installed fine however these are my problems
the market only had max 10 apps to install i cannot search to my understanding there should be more apps
secondly the amazon app store is stuck on loading and no apps come up nor can i search or log in to my account
also the kindle app which i installed i can log in but same problem nothing loads
it seems like i have connectivity problem but my wifi works great for other devices and for adb
please could someone point me to the right direction

gt11990 said:
Hi guys
i hope am not posting this in the wrong section
i have rooted my nook simple touch glow light with glownooter everything installed fine however these are my problems
the market only had max 10 apps to install i cannot search to my understanding there should be more apps
secondly the amazon app store is stuck on loading and no apps come up nor can i search or log in to my account
also the kindle app which i installed i can log in but same problem nothing loads
it seems like i have connectivity problem but my wifi works great for other devices and for adb
please could someone point me to the right direction
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Your observation about the PlayStore has been made by digixmax recently. I don't have a solution for that one. I still get a lot of (sometimes useless) apps on a search. You can use a computer to access the Store and have the app sent to your device.
I can confirm that both the Amazon App Store and the Kindle app are broken. You can still read local content with the Kindle app.
You can also get apps from direct-download sources and side load them.

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Your observation about the PlayStore has been made by digixmax recently. I don't have a solution for that one. I still get a lot of (sometimes useless) apps on a search. You can use a computer to access the Store and have the app sent to your device.
I can confirm that both the Amazon App Store and the Kindle app are broken. You can still read local content with the Kindle app.
You can also get apps from direct-download sources and side load them.
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oh ok thank you i guess ill have to just wait for a fix for these issues
thank you for the update

gt11990 said:
oh ok thank you i guess ill have to just wait for a fix for these issues
thank you for the update
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It's remotely possible someone may tinker with the apps but unlikely. You might as well remove the Amazon App Store. If you have local .mobile content the Kindle app could still be useful.
Edit: Could you try something with Search Market? I did a search on "Kindle" and got 250 hits today. Use the menu "button" to access Settings and see if your app filter is too restrictive. I have mine set for all apps, but that does tend to give a lot of junk after the initial near hits. Maybe that's why people are getting so few hits?

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Edit: Could you try something with Search Market? I did a search on "Kindle" and got 250 hits today. Use the menu "button" to access Settings and see if your app filter is too restrictive. I have mine set for all apps, but that does tend to give a lot of junk after the initial near hits. Maybe that's why people are getting so few hits?
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Did you mean Search Market's Settings?
I am not able to get to Settings using the menu button.

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Did you mean Search Market's Settings?
I am not able to get to Settings using the menu button.
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Yes. When you start Search Market you get a keyboard and a blank search field. The menu button does nothing there. Directly to the left of the search field is a "button" that takes you to a more typical Market screen where, among other things you can look at "My Apps" for your NST. It's on this screen that the menu button wiil bring up Settings.
I don't know that I ever changed the restrictions on what kinds of apps to display but it occurred to me recently that this might be the issue you and others have been seeing. It's worth a shot, anyway.

nmyshkin said:
Yes. When you start Search Market you get a keyboard and a blank search field. The menu button does nothing there. Directly to the left of the search field is a "button" that takes you to a more typical Market screen where, among other things you can look at "My Apps" for your NST. It's on this screen that the menu button wiil bring up Settings.
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When I do this, what I get (at the screen bottom) are "Search", "Downloads", and "Help", but no "Settings".
I am using the SearchMarket version you attached to your post here, so perhaps this behavior disparity has to do with my NST running on 1.2.1 as opposed to 1.1.2?

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When I do this, what I get (at the screen bottom) are "Search", "Downloads", and "Help", but no "Settings".
I am using the SearchMarket version you attached to your post here, so perhaps this behavior disparity has to do with my NST running on 1.2.1 as opposed to 1.1.2?
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I have always run FW 1.21.
This whole thing just gets curiouser. I went back for a closer look and that "button" I mentioned actually calls the Market app (AFAICS) and it's there that I get a "settings" option along with the others you mention. There is a filter in the settings for what kinds of apps to display but I don't know to what extent the apps interact (if at all), and in any case, changing the filter setting seemed to have no effect. I still got many, many results from a search using Search Market.
So I went back to the original GApps post to see if the package had been updated since I did my install. Certainly the file name is the same and the size seems to be the same. There is some talk there about changing the way you sign into the Market, etc., but it's not clear to me when that changed and I rooted my NST with NookManager so long ago (or so it seems to me) that I just can't remember. I do still have the original zip of the Gapps Attack file, FWIW.
My "Market" app is 4.03 MB on the NST but there's no obvious version number anywhere I can see. However replacing that one seems risky since the whole sign-in thing with Google is so tricky.
I'm stumped. As clunky as the Search Market app is, it has been useful to me because it only displays apps that have the potential to run under Android 2.1. I went through many, many apps when I was looking for a sound recording app that would work well and create mp3 files. Using Search Market shortened what was already a tedious process.