Wasn't planning on it being my main connection, but my cable got cut off a few days ago, so I got my wireless router to pick up my phone wifi that's broadcasting 3G, and I'm getting speeds ~130-300kB/s (kiloBYTE) which isn't too shabby.
Streaming videos, webpages load up quickly, I don't even notice unless I go to download a large file. Just curious if anyone else is doing this.
Sure do. At about -70DB signal strength at my house I can pull in a solid 320KBs
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I can only daydream of having that set up. I barely get enough 3g signal to use my phone at all while at home.
All of us that are irritated at verizon for taking away the unlimited plans are going to be showing up at your homes soon (rotaryboots, POQbum... looking at you).
You will know it is us as we'll be the ones with the pitchforks and torches.
just kiddin...
But for those who haven't figured out why unlimited data plans are going extinct... the topic of this thread is the reason. Myself I've only done it temporarily one night, when my wired connection went down. I usually get my phone data from the wired source when possible, not the other way around.
Sweet. Makes me happy I snagged unlimited data while it was still available.
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I'll go further and better describe the setup, sometimes I use the wifi on my phone to broadcast the access but more often than not I plug it in to my old laptop which is plugged into my router via LAN cable then bridge the connections so that my wireless router uses the phone's internet and I can connect all my computers to my home network....winning
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I've had to do this a time or two when my main internet went down. Worked great. Now, however, I have my phone on prepaid network that offers very little data so it has to be basically an emergency for me to do this now. Still, love the fact that it can be done.
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But for those who haven't figured out why unlimited data plans are going extinct... the topic of this thread is the reason. Myself I've only done it temporarily one night, when my wired connection went down. I usually get my phone data from the wired source when possible, not the other way around.
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I agree a little. Here's my problem I am a husband and father that is having a hard time finding work right now. I have been with Verizon or Bell Atlantic since 1992. It costs me $200 a month for our two phones and has ALWAYS been in the extreme high side. Cable package after a year is also $200 a month. Something had to go. So we now watch HD broadcast TV and get our internet from our phones. I figure after 19+ years and some roughly $45,000 of my hard earned pay, I will use my unlimited data plan the way I like. You (Verizon) have been more than willing to take my money all these years and raise the rates every time you needed to. Well now its time to give back to a loyal customer.
So yes I do use my phone(s) internet as our MAIN INTERNET! And yet I think I have only been throttled one month. Which means that even as our main we still stay under the 5gb each.
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jblack55,
Sorry to hear about the financial difficulties. I was trying to be funny more than anything. I hope your family get through it soon. I'm just saying this is why Verizon doesn't have unlimited plans anymore.
But since you are getting all delusional... and self-righteous...here's some TRUTH.
You can rationalize that paying X number of dollars to Verizon in 1995 entitles you to whatever you want to. It entitles you to nothing. It was payment for service that was rendered back in 1995. If the price was too high at Verizon, you could have gotten your service elsewhere or decided to have no service. You are explicitly breaking the contract that YOU agreed to and currently have. Rationalize whatever you want... it doesn't make it true. And now other Verizon customers are getting their prices hiked even more, to pay for your dishonesty. Please rationalize how this is fair...I want to know. If the way you deal with Verizon is typical of the way you deal with other people and institutions, your unemployment situation is... justice... in a karma type of way.
So, there's a Super Bowl tomorrow...
I have internet at home, but I'm on the road most if the time, hotel internet sucks, and I have to log in everyday, so I'm using my phone internet over 95% of the time also to get my moneys worth out of Verizon.
I work two full time jobs and on my breaks or when it's slow, I am on my Incredible utilizing the Internet. I have the unlimited access plan which gives me peace of mind knowing I will not be paying more on my monthly bill than what my plan is set up for. I don't do Pandora or hotspot. Mostly forums, Google, and YouTube. Great way to kill some time when it is a slow night at work.
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I only use the internet from my phone when my internet goes out. Right now i am looking to get a 4g phone and will use that a lots since i have a slow connection and 4g is a lot faster.
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And now other Verizon customers are getting their prices hiked even more, to pay for your dishonesty. Please rationalize how this is fair...I want to know.
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Just wanted to say that Verizon's decision hardly comes from this, they make billions every quarter.
Their goal like every company is to make as much money as possible, and to get more investors they need to continually be making more profit every quarter. To make sure that happens they will raise prices and cut costs, including things like capping unlimited plans. It's not others peoples fault if they use what they're paying for, even if Verizon doesn't like it, you're still ultimately paying a premium price for cell service that well covers what you're using.
If you have 4G|LTE then Definitely
Ehh, depends. If you are in a VzW 4G|LTE area I would definitely consider it, I get faster download speeds on that than my home's Cablevision connection.
I voted eh, because I use it as the main source of internet in the truck. I do have cable at home for my missus and kids, but since I am only home a few days a month it is hard to count that as my internet. I often get 1.2 MB/s down and .1 MB/s up. i normally use 2-4 GB monthly. it might be more now that my co-driver watches jetflix from his tablet through my hotspot (opengarden rules...)
I do. Use at least 20gb a month, use tv out with netflix, use a vpn to watch foreign tv, and download magazines, ect. When I need a java browser I use Alwayson PC, no video/sound but when works for what I need it for. Would love to upgrade to 4g but won't give up my unlimited data.
Luckily we got my wife's thunderbolt a day before the unlimited plans disappeared. Without a cable connection to the house yet, the two phones are our sole connection to everything. Between us, we use about 15 to 20GB per month. When Verizon starts throttling her data, I just switch my hotspot on instead, and we keep going. We've even ran torrents through our 3G connection a few times - boy is that slow! But when there's nothing good on Hulu, we can download a 700MB movie in about an hour and a half. Watching the superbowl that way was a big disappointment though - no commercials and no halftime show? Were they kidding us?
Dont use it for my main net but I have used it a few times to get back on World of warcraft and it works decent to play and be on vent when my main net goes out in the middle of a raid which has happened quite abit lately. Small town sucky cable internet company, a small breeze in the wrong direction can knock out the net for hours lol.
Also I do have a question do you use any specific program to usb tether? Currently using PDA.net wondering if there was a better way.
I tried with the incredible but its just not fast enough...
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Has anyone ever got in trouble because you went over Tmo bandwidth cap? I know it was a big issues when G1 first come out about 10gb cap/month limit.
I was wondering if anyone ever went over the cap limit? if so, what happen? I heard rumors that Tmo will lower the downstream speed to those individuals for the first offense, and then cancel your contract and service for future offense.
The reason I'm asking is because I use my rooted G1 as my main internet source for the past 3 weeks or so because my aunt doesn't want to pay for DSL anymore. I got 3G on my area and on good days I usually get about 750 kbps on my laptop, fast enough to pass by some free time. Lately, I been doing some heavy audio streaming and even downloading TV shows from torrent using my G1.
Pretty sure t-mobile will get pissed about bittorrent
Stop torrenting, and they should leave you alone
i know...but I can't help it. I need to watch my shows. I dont have tivo and can't afford extra bill for the damn internet for the house.
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i know...but I can't help it. I need to watch my shows. I dont have tivo and can't afford extra bill for the damn internet for the house.
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use hulu.com it is completely legit and free streaming of shows and movies. ran by a tv station
Stop downloading so much, it makes the network slow for everyone else. If you do illegal activities on the phone I sure there will be some back lash. And if you keep this up they will make tethering against TOS, and you will ruin it for everyone.
is it possible to tehter on a tmobiile rc30 stock rom? and if so how?
Hate to be redundant, but I seriously hope that when T-mobile cracks down that they don't take out some poor guy who needs to ssh into a server and generates 10kb of traffic when they bust you for transferring multiple GB of bittorrent traffic.
The cost of bandwidth of a cell phone is VASTLY higher than over DSL or Cable. Radio bandwidth is a very limited commodity, and right now the networks barely have enough to serve their customers who just want to browse the web a little and watch the odd YouTube video (at low resolution).
If you have torrents seeding 24x7 you're going to use hundreds or thousands of times more bandwidth than an average user, and it is going to cause problems. Most likely you'll just get your service cut off (so then you'll be complaining about how you don't have DSL OR a cell phone). However, other possibilities include T-Mo blocking everything but port 80 and maybe 25. Please don't be the guy who does this to android...
Look, I'm all for net-neutrality and all that, and ISPs that have draconian filters need to be forced to remove them. However, you really can't compare a landline ISP that doesn't want you to do nothing more than web browse to a cell phone provider who wants you to stick to interactive use or otherwise low-bandwidth activities. Ditto for stuff like satellite-based internet. In these mediums bandwidth is genuinely limited.
If you need an analogy consider walking into a store every day and pocketing all the change in the "give/take a penny" bin. Sure, it is "free money," but you're basically ruining a community resource for even just the tiniest personal benefit. In you're case you're abusing what is likely a $60/month plan or so in order to avoid a $15/month DSL bill (give or take a few bucks).
Yeah cut it out. I heard that once you hit a data cap they drop you to edge speeds for the remainder of the month.
Don't ruin this for everyone. You'll live w/on your movies until you find another way.
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i know...but I can't help it. I need to watch my shows.
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It's called growing up. I'm 25 and haven't had internet and TV in MY house for going on 2 years. Do you know what I have a lot of? Books. *gasp*
"I need to watch my shows! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" *pout pout pout*
It's customers like you who are going to cause TMo to start throttling data usage so knock it off. Get a damn job and pay for an ISP yourself. What I quoted from you sounds like something my 8 year old would say.
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It's called growing up. I'm 25 and haven't had internet and TV in MY house for going on 2 years. Do you know what I have a lot of? Books. *gasp*
"I need to watch my shows! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" *pout pout pout*
It's customers like you who are going to cause TMo to start throttling data usage so knock it off. Get a damn job and pay for an ISP yourself. What I quoted from you sounds like something my 8 year old would say.
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I could not agree more. There are people starving in this world, and you NEED your tv shows. That is one of the most pathetic things I have heard in awhile. Here is a novel, parsimonious idea, instead of watching tv, educate yourself. Education can go along way, at least far enough to make you realize what a stupid idea it is to pirate over your cell phone.
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i know...but I can't help it. I need to watch my shows. I dont have tivo and can't afford extra bill for the damn internet for the house.
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i understand how you feel, i can't afford internet at all, and so i have to use my phone to do everything like help n00bs on here, when i got my tilt i had 3G and it was great, at&t had a 5GB cap and i went over it repeatedly with no repercussions, i never did more than 10GB on at&t so i seriously doubt i could do that on the edge network i have here with my G1. but from what the t-mo rep tols me the other day, after telling me that it was impossible to tether, and that there is no way to write a program for it, they just knock you down to edge speends for the rest of the month.
i also use the phone for my main source of internet but don't torrent, people that torrent ruin things and it makes everyone hate you.
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It's called growing up. I'm 25 and haven't had internet and TV in MY house for going on 2 years. Do you know what I have a lot of? Books. *gasp*
"I need to watch my shows! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" *pout pout pout*
It's customers like you who are going to cause TMo to start throttling data usage so knock it off. Get a damn job and pay for an ISP yourself. What I quoted from you sounds like something my 8 year old would say.
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I'm so not gonna say anything.
Shaggy (41yrs old)
I think that maybe T-Mobile should charge additional per GB instead of putting a cap on. It should be about $2 per GB over (just an example). Which wouldn't be much for the average user... but for those who torrent it would definitly add up. However that would cause a change in the contract which T-Mobile reserves the right to do without notice. The would probably resort to such measures if everyone started doing this.
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It's called growing up. I'm 25 and haven't had internet and TV in MY house for going on 2 years. Do you know what I have a lot of? Books. *gasp*
"I need to watch my shows! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" *pout pout pout*
It's customers like you who are going to cause TMo to start throttling data usage so knock it off. Get a damn job and pay for an ISP yourself. What I quoted from you sounds like something my 8 year old would say.
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Don't think you're better than anyone just because you don't watch TV. Oh wow you don't have internet or tv in your house ! Why are you on the internet now then? Go read a book, you're wasting bandwidth for the rest of us.
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Don't think you're better than anyone just because you don't watch TV. Oh wow you don't have internet or tv in your house ! Why are you on the internet now then? Go read a book, you're wasting bandwidth for the rest of us.
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growing up... lol that's why he bought the G1.
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I think that maybe T-Mobile should charge additional per GB instead of putting a cap on. It should be about $2 per GB over (just an example). Which wouldn't be much for the average user... but for those who torrent it would definitly add up.
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Sounds fine to me. But they better make it possible to opt-out - I don't want some malfunctioning application to run up a $500 phone bill. If I hit a 10GB cap I'd rather they just cut me off.
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However that would cause a change in the contract which T-Mobile reserves the right to do without notice. The would probably resort to such measures if everyone started doing this.
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That would be wonderful! I just got a whole stack of phones at promotional pricing and a unilateral change in contract terms would be a material change that would get me out of my contract!
T-Mobile may not be required to give notice BEFORE changing the contract, but they certainly are required to tell you WHEN they change the contract. If the change is material to the terms of the contract you can refuse to accept the new terms, at which point they must either release you from the contract or continue service under the original terms. If they refused to do this and then tried to charge you a termination fee any court of law in the US would rule in your favor in a heartbeat (and they'd face a class action in no time). The whole point of contracts is that you agree to a set of terms and then you live by them - they can only be ammended by mutual consent. Anything written in the contract to the contrary is almost certainly unenforceable.
Sure, they might try to give you a hard time, but they would cave in. Just look at what happened when verizon decided to up some surcharge by 20 cents per month last year - lots of people argued it and got released from their contracts and continued month-to-month (with the freedom to leave at any time).
I doubt T-mobile would make a unilateral change like this anyway - the reason I signed up with them (besides the G1) is that they seemed to not have a reputation for some of the cheap shots some of the other companies pull.
look use rapidshare or megaupload that way theres no uploading but you still have to watch your limits (i use to go over 40gigs with my TYTN 2 on att and i thank god they never charged me be4 i was able to end my contract)
Please respond here if you are using the portable wifi feature of your nexus one and getting any SMS or e-mail notification from AT&T that they want you to pay for tethering.
I hear stories about people who get the "unlimited" data plan and then straight up abuse it (by providing internet for their entire household), which is probably why this is happening.
150+GB a month is what I consider abuse btw.
I don't see why you should pay for tethering. I think its just another way for them to make more money. Maybe for some people they don't wanna pay to have a separate internet source when they can use their phones as their internet source. I don't tether since atm I don't have unlimited data lol.
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Should be free and only pay for data...just another reason why I left at$t years ago!
I have T-Mobile and as of right now my "unlimited" is still unlimited but once you exceed 5GB for the month is DRAMATICALLY slows down.
I just moved in to a new place with my wife and son and I'm trying to cut down on extra bills (I'm the only working parent right now) so I don't have internet, I just tether off my phone.
I just exceeded 5GB for the first time ever and its horrible. I'm moving so slow, on my phone that is, its unreal.
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I have T-Mobile and as of right now my "unlimited" is still unlimited but once you exceed 5GB for the month is DRAMATICALLY slows down.
I just moved in to a new place with my wife and son and I'm trying to cut down on extra bills (I'm the only working parent right now) so I don't have internet, I just tether off my phone.
I just exceeded 5GB for the first time ever and its horrible. I'm moving so slow, on my phone that is, its unreal.
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That is a bummer and I'm in simular boat...
Check this work around info for some possible help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863923
The only people getting flagged are iPhone accounts that are extreme abusers.
If you are abusing the service that much, then you should be paying for the higher package IMO.
I tether on my unlimited plan and have never had a problem, but I also don't abuse it. I barely break 1gb a month.
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The only people getting flagged are iPhone accounts that are extreme abusers.
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Because iOS's silly separate tethering config makes it easy to know exactly how much it's getting used. Not so simple on phones that route tethered data through the normal APN.
Yeah, I use tethering on my N1 on AT&T everyday and I haven't gotten anything from them yet. I don't abuse it, but where my house is, sort of in the woods (in Pennsylvania) where I can't get anything better than dial-up, so I use it just for basic email, Facebook, etc.
3UK now offer "all you can eat" data on Pay as you go. i plan to swap my T-Mobile SIM to my old 3 after this contract is up, i really hope the plan is still available then as i can see this being abused from day one!!
I tether my tablet to my phone almost daily, but it's pretty small usage. I am only using 300-400 megs a month on 3G now since AT&T took my unlimited away when they screwed with my account a while back. I mostly update or do stuff on wifi at home.
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3UK now offer "all you can eat" data on Pay as you go. i plan to swap my T-Mobile SIM to my old 3 after this contract is up, i really hope the plan is still available then as i can see this being abused from day one!!
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They don't allow tethering on PAYG. Same as Giffgaff, unlimited data without FUP, but no tethering.
I got a similar message from Cincinnati Bell Wireless, but they have not charged me. I don't really use tethering all that much.
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They don't allow tethering on PAYG. Same as Giffgaff, unlimited data without FUP, but no tethering.
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Ah! cheers for that info
Doesn't mean they'll ever notice you doing it, of course
XDA is no longer worth my time.
What I am having trouble understanding is what evidence is at&t Mobility using to determine if one is tethering or not.
They have a few choices, but as far as I can tell, none of them are perfect and all will have false positives.
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A different thread (Here) degraded into an angry, but compelling discussion of tethering ethics.
Since the other thread was so lively, but off of original topic, I figured this would be a better, less phone specific, location.
This guy burned through 105G of data in a billing cycle.
Wow.
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This guy burned through 105G of data in a billing cycle.
Wow.
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I don't care if people tether provided they keep it at a reasonable rate. I think the T-Mo 5 GB limit is plenty for tethering and I don't care if they throttle past that point. 105GB is completely and utterly retarded and I wouldn't hesitate to say that he was probably downloading illegal files while tethering.
You're using AT&T and you're concerned about ethics LOL. They're screwing you every chance they get. If you get the chance to return the favor, be my guest.
The only crisis of conscience I might have is degrading the user experience of someone else on that same antenna.
The 'I don't give an F' users eventually bring the issue to a head; they push the limits and draw the attention of the carriers.
On the positive end, this (kind of) spurs bandwidth and rollout plans.
On a negative end, this hurries security and monitoring development that closes off these avenues.
There's no reasoning with 'power' users though; they'll take anything that's not nailed down. We all just have to live with it.
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You're using AT&T and you're concerned about ethics LOL. They're screwing you every chance they get. If you get the chance to return the favor, be my guest.
The only crisis of conscience I might have is degrading the user experience of someone else on that same antenna.
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I've never had any issue with AT&T, but I have had issues with T-Mobile. It's funny that a provider can be so cheap (T-Mobile), yet can't seem to get any subscribers... wonder why? :C
Could it be their poor service/coverage? Probably.
I used to tether a while back, but I got a letter from AT&T telling me if I continued I'd lose my unlimited data and be automatically enrolled in their 4GB for $45 tethering plan. I since stopped, and bought myself a 5GB "4G" data connect card @ $50 per month ($10 for every GB over). Seemed like a reasonable deal.
If you're gonna tether, good luck, you will get caught eventually. c:
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I've never had any issue with AT&T, but I have had issues with T-Mobile. It's funny that a provider can be so cheap (T-Mobile), yet can't seem to get any subscribers... wonder why? :C
Could it be their poor service/coverage? Probably.
I used to tether a while back, but I got a letter from AT&T telling me if I continued I'd lose my unlimited data and be automatically enrolled in their 4GB for $45 tethering plan. I since stopped, and bought myself a 5GB "4G" data connect card @ $50 per month ($10 for every GB over). Seemed like a reasonable deal.
If you're gonna tether, good luck, you will get caught eventually. c:
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So instead of using something you were already paying for, you now are paying for another monthly charge to continue doing what you were already doing before? Yep, definitely. Sounds like you've never had an issue with AT&T. At least not one that you want to admit.
But in all honesty, it cripples the system when people are overusing. Then again, we should be getting what we pay for. And considering the unreasonable rates carriers provide compared to elsewhere in the world... f*** them.
I honestly don't tether that much these days. I only use it when the internet is down and at best, I use about 200MB worth of data from tethering. Haven't been caught and I am pretty sure T-Mobile doesn't care enough to send me a warning about tethering on a non-tethering contract.
With that being said, I did hit my 5GB limit. Twice. Without the use of tethering. Throttled speed is honestly not that bad, I can still do some stuff.
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So instead of using something you were already paying for, you now are paying for another monthly charge to continue doing what you were already doing before? Yep, definitely. Sounds like you've never had an issue with AT&T. At least not one that you want to admit.
But in all honesty, it cripples the system when people are overusing. Then again, we should be getting what we pay for. And considering the unreasonable rates carriers provide compared to elsewhere in the world... f*** them.
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When you say unreasonable rates VZW certainly comes to mind
I don't tether but really don't see the problem with it. As someone else stated when it comes to 'power users' they are out there and we all have to deal with it no matter what the service you use, ie DSL/CABLE/SAT etc.
What about the 'ethics' of locking bootloaders and loading my phone full of bloatware? ROFL...
I don't think its unethical to use your data the way you want to use it. You are paying for the data. I think caps, for the price of unlimited home broadband (and not achieving close to the same speeds as those of home broadband) is unethical.
If my contract says unlimited data, I see nothing unethical about it. It is my data to use when and how I want to. The only thing unethical is the fact that I pay $160 a month for 2 lines.
Whats the difference between using 2GB of data on your phone compared to using 2GB of data when you've got a laptop tethered to it? You should just be able to pay for data and thats that. No paying extra if you want to tether.
It is abusing it if you have unlimited data and rinse it all since it's never really unlimited. Maybe they should say how much data you're ACTUALLY allowed to use.
people should stop using 3G/4G as a replacement for home internet, sigh...
I am about to go a little off topic.
I think it is the fault of the carriers themselves. Earlier it was allowed for me tether as much as I wanted. I had an unlimited data plan (A real one).
Now I am limited to 2 gb (or not yet, only when I renew my contract) This is not caused by power users but because of wrongly anticipated investments. They need to get back their investment of economically aged techniques.
Also I am forced to buy more calling minutes and text when I want more data.
I think, especially compared to earlier, that giving us this little data for a ridiculously high price is unethical. 10 gb should be more fair. I mean they tell us to watch youtube on my phone at home. Why would I do that when I have a laptop or maybe later even a tablet?
Its not really unethical to download 105 gb unless you are downloading illegal stuff and causing others unable to use mobile data.
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Twiddler said:
A different thread (Here) degraded into an angry, but compelling discussion of tethering ethics.
Since the other thread was so lively, but off of original topic, I figured this would be a better, less phone specific, location.
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I am about to go a little off topic.
I think it is the fault of the carriers themselves. Earlier it was allowed for me tether as much as I wanted. I had an unlimited data plan (A real one).
Now I am limited to 2 gb (or not yet, only when I renew my contract) This is not caused by power users but because of wrongly anticipated investments. They need to get back their investment of economically aged techniques.
Also I am forced to buy more calling minutes and text when I want more data.
I think, especially compared to earlier, that giving us this little data for a ridiculously high price is unethical. 10 gb should be more fair. I mean they tell us to watch youtube on my phone at home. Why would I do that when I have a laptop or maybe later even a tablet?
Its not really unethical to download 105 gb unless you are downloading illegal stuff and causing others unable to use mobile data.
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Well, people would tether because why bother having two Internet es, one at your home and one in your pocket? Sounds easier to have it all on your phone as you can tether to your other devices. Also, some people don't have tablets or aptops, etc. To even use, so they use whatever they can but I mean this is unlikely since they can afford such an Internet service on their device.
Also, it's the isp fault of their network can't support thousands or millions of users using their network, they should get better networks, etc since you're paying for the service. For the ones who download like several gigabytes of stuff, why not? It's the Internet and they paid for it. Watching a million videos, movies, watching live tv, etc. Why don't they leech off starbucks? Because they are paying for an "unlimited" service.
For the throttling, I find it stupid, or good. Stupid because unlimited users shouldn't be doing because they use a lot, it's a service they paid for. Well, how much they throttle anyways? But it's good because at the end of the month, that's when team network is the fastest, if the heavy users get throttled.
Either way, I think throttling is stupid and bad for user who paid for unlimited Internet,.
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people should stop using 3G/4G as a replacement for home internet, sigh...
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Why not? Although home Internet is faster, why pay for home when you have unlimited 3g/4g?
Im on sprint, so we have unlimited data in our contracts. I think its my right to use it in any way i like just like i do at home with fios. i can plug in any device i want into my router. I could give my dog her own videophone and verizon wont care. Cell carriers should be the same, they should treat it as a just a connection, thats it. we would all be happier.
I was on AT&T. Got the tethering notice and decided no more with them. I switched to Verizon.
When I tether, I really don't use that much data than I would on my phone. I average around 6.5GB a month on my phone usual data. From there, I would venture to say 2GB of data is tethering and when it's done, it's usually not even their peak network times. I don't think it's unethical because data is data. A byte is a byte whether it originated on the phone or the other device. The company has the capability, they just want more money for it.
Really, it boils down to moderation. If everyone tethered, but did it moderately, we could all enjoy it. But for the 105GB guy, he ruins it for all of us.
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Im on sprint, so we have unlimited data in our contracts. I think its my right to use it in any way i like just like i do at home with fios. i can plug in any device i want into my router. I could give my dog her own videophone and verizon wont care. Cell carriers should be the same, they should treat it as a just a connection, thats it. we would all be happier.
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I agree.
As our devices become capable of higher volumes of data in a billing period, AT&T markets faster speeds (translation: greater volume in less time), more apps (translation: more downloads, more apps pulling data), we are expected not to use greater volumes of data if we have an unlimited contract.
As for people who say that power users cause network bottlenecks, I would like to see data to prove this allegation. I haven't seen any information to support this allegation. I believe that AT&T's network problems, including cell towers that lose internet, are a much bigger problem.
Power users don't cause the bottleneck. There's so few who actually use over a fairly small amount of data that it's ridiculous for the carriers to say that power users are the cause of network congestion and general slowness, which prompt data caps and other unpleasantness.
The actual issue is similar to Comcast's handling of torrenters. The whole Sandvine debacle wasn't caused because so many people were torrenting that the network couldn't handle it. The cause was simple greed and laziness--the provider sold more bandwidth than they actually possessed. The same is true for the mobile networks, as well. These guys know that "unlimited" is the magic word to sell data plans, but they don't want to spend the money necessary to expand network infrastructure to actually handle unlimited data access from thousands upon thousands of subscribers. So they blame it on the handful of folks who actually make use of the whole unlimited part, and throttle or cap bandwidth.
If they had been honest to begin with, we probably wouldn't be so torqued about it all.
I'm on T-Mobile and I tether fairly often, but not to excess, mostly because I have a 2GB cap and I'm almost always in a place where I can get wifi. The tethering is there for those 1% of times when there's no 802.11 nearby and I need to get my laptop online for whatever reason.
I pay for my bandwidth, I ought to be able to use it however I please. T-Mobile doesn't seem to mind whether my bits are pulled down through my Nexus S or my laptop.
Now if I could only figure out how to stop their proxies from compressing JPEGs...
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I am friendishly warning you to NOT USE IT. It will void your contract and they will drop you. If you didnt know this before hand, you may want to stop. I love wifi tether but sadly it will end up getting me droped =/ Its in the sprint contract terms and what not
Thanks, were you dropped?
Nah. Just as a noob would, im new to all this root stuff, so i looked up if its illegal or not and it is with some companys. Especially sprint.. they can tell if your using wifi tether without paying their $30 a month for wifi. They'l drop you first off lol
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Nah. Just as a noob would, im new to all this root stuff, so i looked up if its illegal or not and it is with some companys. Especially sprint.. they can tell if your using wifi tether without paying their $30 a month for wifi. They'l drop you first off lol
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It's NOT illegal. Yes, it voids your contract, but as most people will tell you, you have unlimited data, they can't tell you how to use it.
And FYI, sprint can NOT tell if you are using wifi tether or not. To them, it just looks like regular data being used on the phone.
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It's NOT illegal. Yes, it voids your contract, but as most people will tell you, you have unlimited data, they can't tell you how to use it.
And FYI, sprint can NOT tell if you are using wifi tether or not. To them, it just looks like regular data being used on the phone.
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Bingo! Data is data no matter which way you look at it. You can lift its skirt or drop its pants, it all looks the same.
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Hmm ok. misread some info.. But you have to think.. they can notice.. When you go from suttle data usage to some rapid burning usage its sort of obvious
Yes that is correct. If your a constant 1gb user every month for like a year then jump to 10gb's they'll question that. Just don't go throwing up red flags and you'll be fine. There's been threads on here with ppl being dropped only cause in their words 'I'm gonna stick it to sprint' and they go and use 20+ gb's. And you wonder why sprint sends out the we're letting you go letter
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Hmm ok. misread some info.. But you have to think.. they can notice.. When you go from suttle data usage to some rapid burning usage its sort of obvious
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As long as you don't abuse the tethering and rack up 10s of GBs of data consistently, Sprint could care less right now about whether or not people who choose to stick with them are tethering for free, as Sprint continues to lose customers.
Sprint is more concerned right now with how much data is going over the air than how people are sending it, because too much data over the air slows service to everyone.
There have been more people who have had their contracts cancelled who were paying the $30 dollars per month, but racking up enormous amounts of data (more than 10GB consistently) than people who do not pay the $30 dollars, but use tether more sparingly. In fact, there are many users right here on this site who have tethered for a long time, who Sprint has never done or said anything to.
I was about to say,i've been using my tether for over 6 months and i've never been repremanded for it,from sprint.
tethering is to risky imo.. sprint is unpredictable
Speeding is illegal too, doesn't mean I won't do it on the way home. I figure Sprint told me, that my phone would connect to their advanced 4G network, as they would eventually cover most areas with it and yet now my phone will never be usable on their 4G if they get disgruntled about my tether then they let me go to VZW
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tethering is to risky imo.. sprint is unpredictable
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If you read the terms and conditions, racking up enormous amounts of data (whether you are paying for tethering or not), as well as tethering for free are both violations of your contract. However, Sprint will cancel your service quicker for the excess data usage (even if you are paying the $30 per month), than they will over free tethering, because too much over the air usage slows down service to everyone, which is one of the biggest complaints about Sprint (Service being too slow).
Well they probably would drop you if you had like 50gigs+ every month and the only way you could do that is downloading major porn or like downloading world of warcraft 3 or 4 times lol
I've been tethering since we had what seemed like a 20 step rooting sequence using adb commands. In other words ancient history in terms of the Evo. They've never given any indication of caring, but I only tether when I need to. I've downloaded torrent sized files, but never very often. I probably use more data flashing roms from my dropbox than I ever have by tethering.
I wonder if the can supposedly glean this info from CIQ. They do take user stats and most likely apps stats.
I use about 12 gigs monthly since 06. No hitch
I personally don't use the tethering all that much. I find that it decreases my battery life by like 726237x. And I don't know about you guys, but I don't bring my phone charger with me everywhere. So.
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Doesn't matter. I can't even use Wifi tethering.
My 3G speed is honestly making me think about switching to VZW, even though I wont get unlimited data. I can literally only pull 24 kB/s down (yes, 193 kbps - TERRIBLE) during the day. At night (1am+) I can pull about 1000 kbps.
I used to be able to get way better speeds, but over the last month or two it has literally come to a crawl. I only use Wifi on my evo now, i can barely use the market on 3g. I attribute this to the recent S2 and iPhone 4s. It's probably also related to my area, Southern Cali. Very populated and probably too much traffic (no 4g either... stupid.)
try boosting your 3g. theres a thread somewhere to do it.. it like calibrates your 3g to the best it can do
Tried searching around, no such luck for this thread. All I've come across is a some other users getting speeds just as bad as me.
Can't believe I'm paying the $10 dollar data fee per month, I could probably get a better connection from dialup.
Please share your experiences with tethering with the Moto G- what carrier, are you just using approved tether amount, is it seen as such,...
I've used it on my T-Mobile account. I'm technically not allowed to tether. If I tether with my laptop and watch an HD video it gives me a warning that I need to buy a tethering service for use on external devices. If you use a browser make sure you download some kind of user agent switcher and set it to Android. T-Mobile seems to use that as an identifier if you're tethering a PC. I mainly use it for online gaming on my 3DS. I live less than 1700 feet from the tower, so I have excellent ping and reception. Never had much of a problem tethering aside from the warnings. You just have to make it less obvious that you're using a PC and not download large amounts of data.
I've been tethering with Three UK for a couple of years now. On the One Plan. Totally unlimited. I prob do 50gb+ a week in films, games etc. I think they've stopped it now though, so I don't know what I'm gonna do when my contract ends in March, as I can't get Broadband where I live currently.
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I've been tethering with Three UK for a couple of years now. On the One Plan. Totally unlimited. I prob do 50gb+ a week in films, games etc. I think they've stopped it now though, so I don't know what I'm gonna do when my contract ends in March, as I can't get Broadband where I live currently.
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You can stay on the one plan and keep the unlimited tethering when your contract is up, mine is up in feb and i plan to keep it going as long as three will let us. EDIT: Three have gone back on their word and will now cut off our AYCE tethering when our contracts end Source - Three blog http://blog.three.co.uk/2014/07/15/personal-hotspot-new-sim-plans/
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You can stay on the one plan and keep the unlimited tethering when your contract is up, mine is up in feb and i plan to keep it going as long as three will let us. EDIT: Three have gone back on their word and will now cut off our AYCE tethering when our contracts end Source - Three blog http://blog.three.co.uk/2014/07/15/personal-hotspot-new-sim-plans/
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I don't see why they have to stop the tethering. Unlimited data on your phone is fine, but not with your PC? I'll download just as much on my phone through torrents etc. I spose that's the next thing they'll stop us from doing.