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The Motorola Flipout is fairly easy to root, at least now. Universal Androot (get it here) works.
I am thinking about moving apps to the sd card. However, since I haven't reflashed the phone, and I don't have a ROM for it, I'd like to do it without reflashing. Is that possible?
If I partition an SD card correctly (ext3), copy all of /data onto that partition, and then mount that partition over /data, will that work? Or do I have to mount the card before the phone boots?
Or is it better to just copy /data/data, and mount the partition over /data/data?
It seems to me that mounting over a directory, as opposed to creating a link is least invasive, because on reboot the phone is as it was before. Is this right?
If I have to mount the sdcard before the phone boots, can I just edit one of the init scripts, or is that more complicated? I read about editing init.rc and repacking boot.img
Oh, HOWTO unpack edit and repack boot images seems to give good instructions. On the Flipout, boot is mtd4, and recovery is mtd5.
If I only modify boot, I can't brick my phone too badly? Since I haven't changed recovery, I should be able to recover (?). Can I create an update.zip that flashes the old boot.img and undoes my changes in case something goes wrong?
I just got the flipout from rogers.. Is there anyplace that has a development forum for it? And does it have the efuse ? If it does, is it possible to do what was done with the droid X to it?
How did go so far ghostwheel? I'm eager to hear what else you have figured out.
You use App2Card.apk at below for app2sd without flash:
http://www.tinhte.vn/f280/app2card-2-4-4-20-9-cai-dat-ung-dung-len-nho-phan-vung-456586/
Requires: just a rooted phone
Steps:
- install app
- click Menu / Partition button then use slide bars to create ext2 for your sd card if it hasn't been splited yet
- click Install App2card button
- phone will be rebooted and you just taste app on sd after then
Note: above page has further instruction but it is vietnamese, you must use google translate to get it. This app runs perfectly on my Milestone.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App
ghostwheel said:
The Motorola Flipout is fairly easy to root, at least now. Universal Androot (get it here) works.
I am thinking about moving apps to the sd card. However, since I haven't reflashed the phone, and I don't have a ROM for it, I'd like to do it without reflashing. Is that possible?
If I partition an SD card correctly (ext3), copy all of /data onto that partition, and then mount that partition over /data, will that work? Or do I have to mount the card before the phone boots?
Or is it better to just copy /data/data, and mount the partition over /data/data?
It seems to me that mounting over a directory, as opposed to creating a link is least invasive, because on reboot the phone is as it was before. Is this right?
If I have to mount the sdcard before the phone boots, can I just edit one of the init scripts, or is that more complicated? I read about editing init.rc and repacking boot.img
Oh, HOWTO unpack edit and repack boot images seems to give good instructions. On the Flipout, boot is mtd4, and recovery is mtd5.
If I only modify boot, I can't brick my phone too badly? Since I haven't changed recovery, I should be able to recover (?). Can I create an update.zip that flashes the old boot.img and undoes my changes in case something goes wrong?
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Hi,
I'd really like to help with that (I'm a confirm dev. for Cliq and CliqXT phones).
Hopefully we can do great things like we did for Cliq and CLiqXT (upgrade to 2.1!). (check my work at http://bit.ly/adlxmod).
First thing would be to generate a system dump (a dump of all the files in the /system partition). Hopefully we then could generate a custom recovery to flash on the phone, and then custom roms, either base on the dump you provide or other roms from other files. Contact me on twitter @adumont (say it's for Flipout) and I'll guide you to generate the dump!
Looking forward to do great things for that litle phone!
I'm in touch with adlxdum to give him my dump but I think we should start a separated thread like "Custom rom, modding (work in progress)" so that we can follow adlxdum work.
And...thx in advance ;-)
flusshd said:
You use App2Card.apk at below for app2sd without flash:
http://www.tinhte.vn/f280/app2card-2-4-4-20-9-cai-dat-ung-dung-len-nho-phan-vung-456586/
Requires: just a rooted phone
Steps:
- install app
- click Menu / Partition button then use slide bars to create ext2 for your sd card if it hasn't been splited yet
- click Install App2card button
- phone will be rebooted and you just taste app on sd after then
Note: above page has further instruction but it is vietnamese, you must use google translate to get it. This app runs perfectly on my Milestone.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App
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Worked!
I couldn't repartition the SD card with the program, so I had to partition it myself. But once that was done, thing seem to work well. A bit slower...
I'm not totally sure how to use the app. Internal seems to still be full, but ext2 on the SD is quite empty. I can't seem to be able to tell if an app is installed to internal or external.
I have to try and install some more apps to see if I run out of memory.
Thanks!!
I'm guessing the flipout and charm are almost identical phones?
My wife has a charm and i'm one of those "i'm not a developer, but I'd like to help" guys.
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I'm guessing the flipout and charm are almost identical phones?
My wife has a charm and i'm one of those "i'm not a developer, but I'd like to help" guys.
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Yes, I think they are very similar.
One thing that I'm interested in is the accelerometer. On the Flipout, most apps that use it are twisted - for example wikitude, and many games (labyrinth lite works!) I wonder if things work on the charm...
the charm has the same issue.
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the charm has the same issue.
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thanks! Too bad....
Hi ghostwheel
I've tried installing app2card, but I'm having some problems. I got the new version 2.7.2.
As you said, the partition doesnt work. For me it says sd card is full but its empty...
How did you manually partition it?
I've found some tutorials but it was for other phones and they required a custom rom...
I partitioned the card using a linux computer, with the program fdisk.
I allocated 2GB to a partition of type ext2. But, I think there are many alternatives for partitioning a disk, see this page:
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f9/how-to-create-ext2-partition-14232/
Wow great link! Many different options! Will try this as soon as I get a micro sd card adapter. Thanks!
You mentioned in your old post that you were having problems using app2card, That you weren't sure if it was working. Have you been able to use it since? Is it working well? and if not have you found an alternative?
I just started using this phone and I'm almost running out of memory... this is quite annoying!
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You mentioned in your old post that you were having problems using app2card, That you weren't sure if it was working. Have you been able to use it since? Is it working well? and if not have you found an alternative?
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Yes, I was having problems. Mainly when restarting the phone, sometimes oodles of apps don't work, including launcher pro, and app2card. You have to remember that when the phone reboots and seems to have FC problems, don't chose any home screen as the default, in case it crashes, and keep a spare app2card to reinstall on the sdcard. I think "severe" problems I had only twice, or so.
So, I have almost no problems. Most of the time it works really well. So well, in fact, that I'm a bit afraid to upgrade it, in case something breaks. And, I totally forgot what it is like to have to delete apps to install another one.
I have more of the opposite problem - finding an app among all those installed takes a realllly long time if you forgot its name. Apps organizer helps.
hello, i am new and i have flipout to test in poland orange network, i just root him using 1st post in this forum, great job! thanks
OK, I am having some problems with the current version of app2card. As I said, sometimes when I turn the device off and back on, app2card fails, and many apps give a FC which starting. Then one needs to fix the apps from app2card. It seems that once that is done, some apps lose some of their data. So, for example, droidwall (excellent program!!), lost all firewall data. I'll have to check if newer versions of app2card don't have this problem. It doesn't happen very often.
Instructions to root Flipout
Hi - I'd consider myself a newbie regarding rooting. I just got the AT&T Flipout - I really like the form factor. I just tried running the Universal Androot from my phone but got the security warning message about only being able to install from trusted sources.
Can someone point me in the right direction please?
Many thanks!
it says that with a lot of apps installed like that, including gmote that I downloaded from the developers site. Just look at what you're downloading like you would on any machine
go to settings > Application and tick on unknown sources to be able to install it.
Everyone mod is working i geuss except for mines i don't know what am doing wrong.
i tried to mod mine with the dexter mod 1.41 and mines wont work,
1st- i download the file didn't unzip it then i sent it to the SD card and rename it "update.zip".
2nd- i did the factory wipe/reset then i select to wipe all data
3rd- i select update.zip but i notice an message saying( E. can't read from SD card, or something like that). i dont know if that is apart of the mod or what.
4th- when it is finish then i select reboot option and when it is done rebooting i get nothing new. can you help me out are do you know something that i might be doing wrong. i also did do the 1.42 patch aswell didn't work. are is there any other newer way to do it are what. Even if you can write step by step on how to do it properly.
PLEASE HELP ME OUT.
Did your a7 have a sdcard problem before the attempt ?
And even tho it sed it can't read sdcard, did it proceed to install anyway ?
yes it did go ahead with the installation, but it is during the installation process where i saw something about can't read error, i jus got it yesterday then i did the new update from elocity website. then i tried al,ost all of dexter's mod
these are the exat message i got was (E:can't open/usb/update.zip)
(E:Can't mount USB:update.zip)
then underneath that it say (Finding update package)
then it say (Wait for 5 second)
(Installation time out)
(installation aborted)
(Formatting MISC)
these are all the thing it say during installation
Does your a7 read, mount and unmount the sdcard stock?
What is the path to the update.zip?
Sorry for all the questions, I'm just trying to get on the same page
Sent from my Mynized EVo 4G
I'm having just about the same problem. Will be interested to hear any helpful suggestions. At this point, the only thing that is working is to do the factory reset and use the basic version again. I keep getting a message that "update.zip" (although I named it "Update.zip") is a bad file. I also did not get "apply sdcard:update.zip" as a menu option, only "apply:update.zip", which when clicked did read the sd card, then gave the bad file message.
update
Lemme clarify first then update. I bought the A7 in February and loaded the most current Dexter mod at that time. It's been running beautifully until this week. Over a period of days, the A7 started acting up until it was no longer usable at all. First, the BlueTooth cut out, then the WiFi, then it just got stuck and was repeatedly lighting up the Elocity logo, but never fully booting up.
Elocity support said to do the Factory reset, which I did and it was back to baseline again. Trying to install the latest version of Dexter is where my problem started. (end of history)
So, now the update for this evening: I tried every version of Dexter's mods and got the "bad" file message each time, even after downloading them again to be sure I wasn't using a corrupted copy. However, my A7 will wipe, then update with Elocity Firmware 2.0134 and read it just fine on the exact same SD card when renamed "Update.zip".
So, now I have a very frustrated boy with autism who can't do his Google Voice search anymore and the Android Marketplace doesn't let me download the apps I already bought for him. We're back to where we were when it arrived out of the box in February, but unable to restore what we had.
I have to think there's a conflict between Dexter's Mods and the new firmware, even after one wipes everything. I even tweeted Dexter (and I don't *do* Twitter!) to see if he could respond for help and am waiting for a response.
Can someone please help? Thanks!!
Sounds like your having issues with the files you download, I have gotten in the habit of not renaming the update file to just that until its on the usb card. Seen to many messages like yours if I saved one update over a prior with the same name. Try download 1.41 and 1.42 leave their names the way they are and save them to folder on your computer. Copy them bother to sd-card leaving names the same still. once both are there rename 1.41 to Update. Remove card from pc put in tablet. Use the recovery system method (press then hold power button method) do wipe, clear cache, the use update option. If this is successful which it should be delete the 1.41 file on card that you renamed to Update, this can be done on tablet or computer. Once that file is gone rename the 1.42 to Update and once again flash from recovery system.
Hope that solves your issue
Make it a habit to not save an update over top of another, though it seems like it would keep you from having to rename but for me it always seemed to corrupt the file.
thanks! I'll give that a try. I notice you said "PC", but I have a Mac ... could that be part of the issue ... downloading to Mac, then moving the file to SD or USB? (could be a stupid question, but if I don't ask, that makes me even more ignorant)
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thanks! I'll give that a try. I notice you said "PC", but I have a Mac ... could that be part of the issue ... downloading to Mac, then moving the file to SD or USB? (could be a stupid question, but if I don't ask, that makes me even more ignorant)
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Do you end up with a folder or a zip file? Safari has a bad habit of extracting zips when it downloads them. Search my posts, there is a long ranting one that covers issues with both PC and Mac.
they're zipped ... I use Firefox 4.0, when the option comes up at download, I always click "save", not "open". Thanks, though.
well, problem solved. I ran Bestial's gapps patch over top of the new eLocity firmware and i have full functionality again. very happy mom here! now to reload all those apps for my boy! =D
Wow, I'm glad you found a solution...I have been following the thread and was getting worried.
I had the same problem after downloading the newest elocity update and then trying dexter's mod. I found out my problem is that I renamed the file "update.zip". If you just rename the file to" update" then it loaded fine. Not totally sure why this worked and maybe it was just my case, but maybe it will help some of you out!
bft305 said:
I had the same problem after downloading the newest elocity update and then trying dexter's mod. I found out my problem is that I renamed the file "update.zip". If you just rename the file to" update" then it loaded fine. Not totally sure why this worked and maybe it was just my case, but maybe it will help some of you out!
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No. Your problem was that you were using a windows machine and your file extensions were hidden (I am psychic, but don't worry, I won't tell anyone your pin number). She is using a Mac, no hidden file extensions.
How do you get to the gapps patch? I'm really having trouble getting any updates on my a7. seems like its not taking anything off the sdcard. i brought a new card and I'm still having the same issue.
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How do you get to the gapps patch? I'm really having trouble getting any updates on my a7. seems like its not taking anything off the sdcard. i brought a new card and I'm still having the same issue.
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bestialbub's patch for google apps (to use the market) can be found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1019846 with the instructions
It's still working very well for us ... several weeks later.
Good luck!
Hello !
I am feeling really down today after been trying to get my phone working again.
There is a huge problem currently, I am really annoyed that it doesn't work at all.
First thing, my phone won't start after update it just boot loops and never seem to end it.
First thing I noticed /boot, /cache /system and most things are gone, I can load up recovery but nothing more. I have no idea what happened but the whole image folder was wiped and I had to myself put in the CWM recovery.
I can't do an upgrade "again" as it will be stuck @ the unpacking part without starting it at all.
I been trying with 2.3 V2 and with B133(My stock rom I got).
If anyone has a solution that can solve this problem please help out if you could. Also if you are about to tell me get this and that, please most cases I haven't seen any of the Firmware roms in @modaco wiki links work. Means I can't download them, so if you happen to have spare copy please upload it and link it to me. I have been googling and looking through this section twice, nothing really worked out.
Thanks in advance !
If you didn't erase the .cust_backup partition which contain the image folder with all system' s .img files, then maybe it' s damaged. I had some problems with this partition before and when I checked it with windows check disk it repairs it and I had no problems from then. So, try this, and if you still haven' t any file on image folder, you can find the original folder on X5' s forums. Is definately here, but I don't remember where is the link and I don't gonna search it for you. If you cannot find it, you can allways reflash the original rom. If you fix the partition(if this is the problem), I don't think that you'll have problems with update any more.
dancer_69 said:
If you didn't erase the .cust_backup partition which contain the image folder with all system' s .img files, then maybe it' s damaged. I had some problems with this partition before and when I checked it with windows check disk it repairs it and I had no problems from then. So, try this, and if you still haven' t any file on image folder, you can find the original folder on X5' s forums. Is definately here, but I don't remember where is the link and I don't gonna search it for you. If you cannot find it, you can allways reflash the original rom. If you fix the partition(if this is the problem), I don't think that you'll have problems with update any more.
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Hello, thanks for the reply.
I have no idea about this .cust_backup partition and how I am supposedly to access it via windows. Also the thing you said about fixing partition within Windows, the check disk thing. I am not sure about that part either as I can load CWM and it can read the partitions but they are empty. Also there is nothing in this forums that contains original things, only way for me to fix this if someone have extra copy and can guide me on how and where to place the all needed files. I am pretty sure it's only things that are missing and I can't get a grip out of this.
So to sum up what my problem is.
I did an upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3 with official firmware, it worked out normally but after a reboot my phone became stuck in an endless loop, I can't do anything and it will not I repeat it will not allow me to "re flash" any firmware I tried so far, the 2.3 V2 and B133.
I am begging someone in this forum section, please if you have the knowledge about this problem care to help?
I can't get a refund out the phone warrenty is off and I do not have that much spare money.
Thanks in advance !
If you can get to recovery, wipe cache and data. It should be possible in stock recovery.
The cust partition has all the images for bootloader, recovery etc. You can get to it with the pink screen. Reformatting and then reinserting the images and files could help, but try that when nothing else works.
I can't give you good help via phone, but try wiping data first. Also, try if you can use some other sd card.
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Blefish said:
If you can get to recovery, wipe cache and data. It should be possible in stock recovery.
The cust partition has all the images for bootloader, recovery etc. You can get to it with the pink screen. Reformatting and then reinserting the images and files could help, but try that when nothing else works.
I can't give you good help via phone, but try wiping data first. Also, try if you can use some other sd card.
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The most common things I have already done, but do enlighten me what this "custom" parition is. Because in windows I do not see such partition I see a removable partition which I have now added a folder called image with these containing files.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370960
EDIT ** Also regarding to first person who said about Windows partition manager. The thing is I see a lot of partitions and there is no labeling for them, might be because they are ext2/3 or even something else? In anycase I can't do so much I just find it really odd I have many duplicates and I am guessing that must be errors... Because I am seeing the main recovery partition which has no label too... its at 240 MB where 135MB is used. Lastly there is my internal SD card empty and healthy still I can't reach it within Windows if I do not mount it...And can't now without going into the android OS. I Have loads of free space "partitions I don't understand why they are there".
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Thanks for helping out, it feels not good to have a half dead phone, it's still not solved :'-(
The .cust_backup is the mount point on android for this removable partition with image folder. In windows haven' t this name. I didn't mean to use the windows partition manager, just to use windows explorer, right click on the partition and choose properties, then tools and then check disk. Of course you can use partition manager too, but because as you found there are all no labeled other partitions there and is a bit confused.
As you mentioned, you found the original image folder and you replaced the files. Did you tried to do the update again after that?
Also you can see and the internal sd partiton, but you need linux system. This partition is not fat32, so windows cannot see it.
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The .cust_backup is the mount point on android for this removable partition with image folder. In windows haven' t this name. I didn't mean to use the windows partition manager, just to use windows explorer, right click on the partition and choose properties, then tools and then check disk. Of course you can use partition manager too, but because as you found there are all no labeled other partitions there and is a bit confused.
As you mentioned, you found the original image folder and you replaced the files. Did you tried to do the update again after that?
Also you can see and the internal sd partiton, but you need linux system. This partition is not fat32, so windows cannot see it.
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I have placed all things that I got from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370960
And I can't run the upgrade firmware, it gets stuck at first stage which is to unpack the the update.app thing.
It just stays like that not blinking and frozen.
Did you tried now that you have the original files, to go to recovery mode and wipe data etc?
Also when you try to do the upgrade do you have the device connected with the cable?
I had this problem once and I think that when I disconnected the cable(or maybe wasn' t connected and I connected it, I don't remember well), the proccess bar starts to moving after a while and the upgrade completed successfully.
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Did you tried now that you have the original files, to go to recovery mode and wipe data etc?
Also when you try to do the upgrade do you have the device connected with the cable?
I had this problem once and I think that when I disconnected the cable(or maybe wasn' t connected and I connected it, I don't remember well), the proccess bar starts to moving after a while and the upgrade completed successfully.
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You are not understanding me :-(, I have wiped already millions of times in millions of different ways just to get it work. And no, I don't have the device connrected when I upgrade, it won't work properly then, I have tried to wait for the progress bar to "start" move it won't happen the battery will die, and nothing happened.
I can't go in with normal Recovery mode, can only go in with CWM, the normal recovery mode is really small, I mean only 3mb, while the froyo version is 5mb. Now I am asking if you have the time to upload the image files from 2.3 V2, the ones in forums are for V1. Which I don't know might conflict.
Thanks again for trying to help me out, this is really frustrating to get it to work.
**EDIT**
I worked it out !
I think I understood what you meant, I did as you told I started first with pluggin in the charger forced it to upgrade and now it's upgrading, thank you so much dancer_69. I was going to go tomorrow to buy a new 2nd hand smartphone. But now I can save my money for other things !
**EDIT of EDIT **
I seem to have downgraded to B133, I will try now with B158 2.3 V2 again and hopefully it will work now.
Yes, wasn't clear because I don' t remember what I've done and solve it. But I think that I did it like you discribed too.
Anyway I'm glad that was helpful(kind of)..
And don' t give up so soon with smartphone' s bricks, I've faced brick kind of problems many times and if the device it' s not completely dead, there is something you can do. Maybe need more search or many tries(sometimes the same things) but at the end(and of course If there isn't a hardware problem) device can unbrick.
Hello,
I've got some strange looking Acer Iconia A500
About info:
Model number: Picasso
Android version: 2.2
Build number: Acer_Picasso_0.017.01_EMEA_GEN1_CES02
When connected to PC it is seen as ACER PICASSO USB DEVICE under "Disk devices"
Unable to get PWR+VOL- and PWR+VOL+ working.
ACER RECOVERY INSTALLER it is unable to install, just opens it like a folder
Tried PWR+reset combo, sees acer picasso usb boot-recovery driver, but I am unable to install updates because I don't know CPUID and when I press OK on the last screen, it just continue to pop up that same window with OK and Cancel buttons.
What should I do, seems interesting.
Dear vladok,
I've the same problem... :crying:
I've a "Engineering sample" of this tablet and I'm unable to upgrade from froyo 2.2 to another version of android.
Have you some news about this topic?
Thank you, bye!
PS: Sorry for my bad english
Have either of you tried downloading the ICS update roms from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1816560
First decrypt them with
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099673
Then pull the update.zip from the file. Make sure it's a full update and not one of those patch roms. (you can tell by the file size of the update.zip, if it;'s 300mb or more, then it's a full install) (less than 200, and it's a patch and probably won't work)
Copy update.zip that you pulled out (do not extract the zip, just pull it out of the rom). Copy it to the root of your EXT SD card.
With the tab off, hold Vol+ and PWR. Wait for the file to install then release.
If you are successful, then delete the update.zip from your Ext SD card.
Note that this is for the a500. You can probably do it on an a501, but you will have to root, change bootloaders, and install a custom rom. Not such a bad idea.
MD
Moscow Desire said:
Have either of you tried downloading the ICS update roms from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1816560
First decrypt them with
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099673
Then pull the update.zip from the file. Make sure it's a full update and not one of those patch roms. (you can tell by the file size of the update.zip, if it;'s 300mb or more, then it's a full install) (less than 200, and it's a patch and probably won't work)
Copy update.zip that you pulled out (do not extract the zip, just pull it out of the rom). Copy it to the root of your EXT SD card.
With the tab off, hold Vol+ and PWR. Wait for the file to install then release.
If you are successful, then delete the update.zip from your Ext SD card.
Note that this is for the a500. You can probably do it on an a501, but you will have to root, change bootloaders, and install a custom rom. Not such a bad idea.
MD
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Ha MD, if I get the above ics stock rom, can I remove the junk like games and then do the update thing or will it not like it with some stuff missing. Thanks
shaun298 said:
Ha MD, if I get the above ics stock rom, can I remove the junk like games and then do the update thing or will it not like it with some stuff missing. Thanks
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Well, you have to root it, then get system RW to remove things. Most of the people have n\been using After OTA from the dev forum. About 75% successful.
It all just depends on what you want removed. Most people remove the games, Acer Media, and a few other annoying things that run in system memory.
Just remember, you have to be very careful about what you remove. This is why at least with the 50x, we like to have a CWM recovery installed, Unlocked Bootloader, make a system backup, then go removing things.
Or else, if you fubar, then you have to run that update file all over again
MD
Moscow Desire said:
Well, you have to root it, then get system RW to remove things. Most of the people have n\been using After OTA from the dev forum. About 75% successful.
It all just depends on what you want removed. Most people remove the games, Acer Media, and a few other annoying things that run in system memory.
Just remember, you have to be very careful about what you remove. This is why at least with the 50x, we like to have a CWM recovery installed, Unlocked Bootloader, make a system backup, then go removing things.
Or else, if you fubar, then you have to run that update file all over again
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Thanks, but what I wanted to do was remove the stuff I don't want from a proper update.zip and put on sd card and flash with stock recovery.
I just want to stay total stock, the bootloader change always cause me to many problems, screen flash, wifi, poor bat, and just poor overall preformance, tried many rom combos with the same results.
Thanks for your time.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1" SM-P580 and started working to root it so I could install more apps using a micro SD card. It was a long time ago with Android 7 or so and a while back I thought I would upgrade so I tried upgrading it to Android 11 and Lineage 18.1 and bare bones Google apps. This has been only partially successfully as the system runs but I cannot install any apps at all and have been unable to make any further progress. So I am looking to go back to the drawing board here. What recommendations do you have with regard to what to use that will allow me to install more apps? Thank you very much!
JR1979 said:
I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1" SM-P580 and started working to root it so I could install more apps using a micro SD card. It was a long time ago with Android 7 or so and a while back I thought I would upgrade so I tried upgrading it to Android 11 and Lineage 18.1 and bare bones Google apps. This has been only partially successfully as the system runs but I cannot install any apps at all and have been unable to make any further progress. So I am looking to go back to the drawing board here. What recommendations do you have with regard to what to use that will allow me to install more apps? Thank you very much!
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I assume you got the basic stuff out of the way - unlocked bootloader, installed TWRP, etc.
Did you install a Gapps package?
If you prefer something more vanilla, without the LineageOS customizations, you can try an Android GSI, which is like turning your device into a Pixel tablet. Check out my guide here.
JR1979 said:
I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1" SM-P580 and started working to root it so I could install more apps using a micro SD card. It was a long time ago with Android 7 or so and a while back I thought I would upgrade so I tried upgrading it to Android 11 and Lineage 18.1 and bare bones Google apps. This has been only partially successfully as the system runs but I cannot install any apps at all and have been unable to make any further progress. So I am looking to go back to the drawing board here. What recommendations do you have with regard to what to use that will allow me to install more apps? Thank you very much!
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There are differences between Android 7,8,9 and now, especially eg.the use of sd-cards and permissions for users in general. Maybe you have to check such things as "Allow Installing apps from unknown ressources" in Settings, or you ckeck magisk modules that could help.
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There are differences between Android 7,8,9 and now, especially eg.the use of sd-cards and permissions for users in general. Maybe you have to check such things as "Allow Installing apps from unknown ressources" in Settings, or you ckeck magisk modules that could help.
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Thanks for the input. I have it upgraded to Android 11. Yhe unknown resources shouldn't matter AFAIK, in this case, as I am only trying to install via Play Store. I was trying to work with Magisk - I have it installed. I was going to try the ExSD module but I haven't been able to add it.
V0latyle said:
I assume you got the basic stuff out of the way - unlocked bootloader, installed TWRP, etc.
Did you install a Gapps package?
If you prefer something more vanilla, without the LineageOS customizations, you can try an Android GSI, which is like turning your device into a Pixel tablet. Check out my guide here.
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Thank you. I will look into that. I will look into what the differences are between that and LineageOS. Question: will the pen/stylus work under this configuration? Thank you again.
JR1979 said:
Thank you. I will look into that. I will look into what the differences are between that and LineageOS. Question: will the pen/stylus work under this configuration? Thank you again.
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In theory, yes - because GSIs are meant to be used with the stock kernel, and the system image doesn't have to have any specific hardware support.
LineageOS is built from AOSP, with added tweaks and customizations. I used it for a while, but grew tired of the Magisk issues I was having (PHH builds have built in SuperSU) so I just went straight vanilla with GMS.
So I looked at your guide and decided to give it a shot. With Multidisabler, when I tried pushing that to the tablet with sideload, it failed. I have also been unable to move system.img to the tablet. I'm at a loss. I know I am missing something here but just can't figure out what I am doing wrong. I just want to get this tablet up and running with Android and being able to use the 400GB SD card.
Thanks.
JR1979 said:
So I looked at your guide and decided to give it a shot. With Multidisabler, when I tried pushing that to the tablet with sideload, it failed. I have also been unable to move system.img to the tablet. I'm at a loss. I know I am missing something here but just can't figure out what I am doing wrong. I just want to get this tablet up and running with Android and being able to use the 400GB SD card.
Thanks.
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Does MTP work for you in TWRP? ADB sideload is only for installing zips from your computer; the correct command to send files to device storage is adb push. Still, if you're able to get storage access over USB in TWRP just move the files that way because it's simpler.
I'm honestly not sure if the multidisabler is necessary when using custom firmware or GSIs. I think most likely not.
V0latyle said:
Does MTP work for you in TWRP? ADB sideload is only for installing zips from your computer; the correct command to send files to device storage is adb push. Still, if you're able to get storage access over USB in TWRP just move the files that way because it's simpler.
I'm honestly not sure if the multidisabler is necessary when using custom firmware or GSIs. I think most likely not.
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Sorry - I just saw this response from you. So MTP is enabled but my laptop was unable to see the tablet. I connected the SD card to my laptop and placed the system.img file on it and then dropped the SD card back into the tablet. I was able to see it in the File Manager. As you said to, I wiped /system and flashed the system.img file. It showed "[IMAGE FLASH COMPLETED]". But when I went to reboot from the main TWRP menu, it said there was no OS installed and asked if I was sure if I wanted to reboot. So I took a gamble and selected Reboot and System again. And I guess I lost on the gamble. It now just loops on the "Samsung Galaxy Tab A with S Pen" splash screen. Well, game over... for tonight.
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Sorry - I just saw this response from you. So MTP is enabled but my laptop was unable to see the tablet. I connected the SD card to my laptop and placed the system.img file on it and then dropped the SD card back into the tablet. I was able to see it in the File Manager. As you said to, I wiped /system and flashed the system.img file. It showed "[IMAGE FLASH COMPLETED]". But when I went to reboot from the main TWRP menu, it said there was no OS installed and asked if I was sure if I wanted to reboot. So I took a gamble and selected Reboot and System again. And I guess I lost on the gamble. It now just loops on the "Samsung Galaxy Tab A with S Pen" splash screen. Well, game over... for tonight.
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Don't worry about the No OS warning, I get the same thing on my Tab A after installing a GSI.
You formatted data, yes?
You did NOT wipe /boot or /product I hope?
Something I noticed with the LineageOS GSIs is that the securized ones bootlooped, and I had to flash one of the pre-rooted builds. Can you link the image you tried to flash?
As a test to ensure a GSI runs properly, download one of the Android Developer Preview GSIs and try installing that. Let me know how it goes.
I didn't wipe /boot or /product.
I did format data.
I used the system.img from the aosp_arm64-exp-T2B2.221216.006-9443277-e508d63f.zip file on this page, from the Android Developer Preview GSIs: https://developer.android.com/topic/generic-system-image/releases
I'm guessing I didn't select the right build ?
Thanks again!
JR1979 said:
I didn't wipe /boot or /product.
I did format data.
I used the system.img from the aosp_arm64-exp-T2B2.221216.006-9443277-e508d63f.zip file on this page, from the Android Developer Preview GSIs: https://developer.android.com/topic/generic-system-image/releases
I'm guessing I didn't select the right build ?
Thanks again!
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I also just tried the system.img from gsi_gms_arm64-exp-T2B2.221216.006-9443277-12a8e193.zip file. I get the same results - the splash screen loop.
JR1979 said:
I also just tried the system.img from gsi_gms_arm64-exp-T2B2.221216.006-9443277-12a8e193.zip file. I get the same results - the splash screen loop.
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And so I tried the system.img files from the 2 zip files that are in the Android 13 (stable) folder:
aosp_arm64-exp-TP1A.220624.014-8819323-996da050.zip
gsi_gms_arm64-exp-TP1A.220624.014-8819323-8a77fef1.zip
Neither of these work. I still get the splash screen boot loop.
One thing I noticed is when I wipe system, it shows:
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Updating partition details...
...done
Full SELinux support is present.
MTP Enabled
Failed to mount '/system_root' (Invalid argument)
Formatting system using mke2fs...
Done.
Updating partition details...
...done
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It's almost tablet frisbee time.