[Q] Question about a modified stock kernel r800x - Xperia Play General

I recently saw the article for the ability to install cwm recovery to our phones system partition via the Xperia CWM Auto Installer app:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.pvy.CWMinstaler
I am currently running the latest kernel from DoomLord, which I love but I wanted to know if there would be any advantages to using the above app over the custom kernel? And also if I use the app would it be safer to flash back to stock kernel, and alos wondering I thought I saw at one time a tweaked stock R800x kernel 2.3.3 that was modified to allow overclocking? Anyway if I do decide to give the above app a shot I was thinking of flashing the modified stock kernel (but I cannot find it anymore, unless I missed it somewhere on XDA) and then using the above app. Mostly just wanting people feedback and whether or not between the two which one would be better performance, and if someone can point me to the thread for the modified stock 2.3.3 kernel that would be fantastic.

Not to thread jack: Wasn't the app released just the same as the boot CWM with just touch support? Wasn't sure if there was a huge difference between the two programs.
As for your question regarding the stock kernel, highest the kernel itself will support is 1024Mhz; might have to throw on some racing stripe decals to make it go faster. I haven't seen any modified-stock kernels to be honest, just DoomLords.
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n0_face said:
Not to thread jack: Wasn't the app released just the same as the boot CWM with just touch support? Wasn't sure if there was a huge difference between the two programs.
As for your question regarding the stock kernel, highest the kernel itself will support is 1024Mhz; might have to throw on some racing stripe decals to make it go faster. I haven't seen any modified-stock kernels to be honest, just DoomLords.
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I thought I saw somewhere here on XDA for the xperia plays that there was a cdma modified kernel running 2.3.3 that had been modified to overclock. I am aware that the stock kernel is locked at the 1ghz. Thats 2 reasons why I am using DoomLords kernel, 1 for the overclock and 2 for the recovery. Just wonderinf if there would be any benefit to a stock modified kernel to allow overclock and teh xperia auto installer rather then the custom kernel?

I'm working on a modified stick kernel with kerianftw's help... Right now I'm working on adding cwm into it, and add soon as that's fine and I test it out (it'll probably take a week or so of testing)
Please don't ask for an ETA, because I am a busy man, as soon as I get it done & the bugs out, I'll post it.
I'm not sure if there will be that big of a difference because Doom v10 is pretty awesome...
Sent from my R800x using Tapatalk

Hey, I own the play r800x and I am using the 'Xperia CWM Auto-Instaler' with no problems at all. Backups and restores working like a dream, I just recently flashed "[ROM][CDMA] IT-ROM [r800x]" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459456 (which is based of "COLA's" ROM and geared towards speed) and everything is working flawlessly.
If you're looking for speed (which I would love to be able to overclock too) then you should definitely consider using Cola's rom, or the one I'm using (IT-ROM [R800X]) ... I'm almost certain you will not be disappointed, my phone is now running much smoother/faster, no problems at all. Wifi, sms, 3g, phone, everything up and running without any hassle.
Good luck

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FreeKernel Feedback (Bootloader bypass) UPDATE:VIDEO

Please post all feedback/comments to do with the FreeKernel here
DO NOT SPAM THE BOOTLOADER CRACKING THREAD, IT IS FOR DEVELOPERS ONLY.
zdzihu said:
The bootloader has been bypassed using the kexec/miniloader method
We are able to boot custom kernels now!
Anyway... this is the first release of the fully working custom kernel (flashable via xRecovery). I haven't had much time to work on it so it's kind of proof-of-concept. Tested for 48h without any problem (not even a reboot).
FreeKernel-alpha1:
http://www.mediafire.com/?d8v914keiqsmc3n
This is the alpha version of custom 2.6.29 kernel based on the SE sources. I do not plan to work on this release anymore - it is just for testing purpose. From today on I'll start to port SE stuff to the latest (GBread) kernel.
Changes:
- removed 32 fps cap
- implemented netfilter (Droid wall, native USB/wifi tethering etc.)
- undervolted to 0.950mV to save battery
- don't remember what else I did, I bet something nasty
- super ugly boot logo!
Requirements:
- baseband .52 + the relevant kernel
- clean 2.1 ROM, compatibile with .52 baseband (e.g. .504)
- working xRecovery
Please note I am not responsible for any damage this software may cause to your device! Use it at your own risk!
There is absolutely no support for this alpha release!​
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So, if you want to test this new kernel, please keep in mind it is only compatible with stock 2.1 firmwares (.504 and above) that are compatible with baseband 52.
It is only for testing purposes, and any feedback for this alpha kernel is purely for the benefit of others, Z is not and will not be supporting this version, do not expect it to be ready for daily use!
Please post your results and how you get on with the kernel.
Video of FreeKernel
http://vimeo.com/21838810
does anyone know how to embed it?
I tested the kernel on baseband .46 on TripNMIUI 0.3.2, and the removal of the FPS cap is incredible, the phone is so much smoother and fluid it is unbelievable - it is like having a new phone. I noticed the screen feels a lot more responsive aswell!.
Obviously it is not at all compatible with the ROM, there is no radio and there are frequent reboots, but just a taster in terms of things to come
Apologies for the poor video, but I think its enough to get the general gist of the smoothness
Tried custom kernel just for kicks on trips miui 3.2...bb 54 and up super unstable no network/wifi tons of reboots....
bb 52 and bb49 no network but wifi IS working no sd card mount though
gonna test other roms aswell....
For install custom kernel to be need xrec by Z not from flashtool.
All works, clean install bb 2.0.46 and 2.0.A.0.504.
Dont problems.
I done back to my custom rom way xrec and flashed the patch bb.49, nothing problem.
cheers
this will not work on bb .46 i have tried and failed. no network at all. have tried on several roms... only eternity roms are working on this kernel on bb .52....
supposedly it is suppose to work with bb .49 have not tested on this bb so i cant say for sure.
guaranteed on .52 build 504...
results on quadrant show fps cap has been removed.
overclock is not possible but undervolting is
colors have not yet changed but should upon release of other custom kernels
Can I brick my x10 with this or only bootloop it (because bootloop is fixable with SEUS)
will this work with freex10 and can anyone give me a link to the main thread where zdhihu posted this? i can't find it. thanks.
PlayGunsta said:
Can I brick my x10 with this or only bootloop it (because bootloop is fixable with SEUS)
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You can't brick it as you only flash some files to the system, and you should still be able to access xrecovery if it bootloops
THIS IS ONLY USABLE WITH STOCK 2.1 ON. 52 BASEBAND!!!
This is a test kernel not meant as anything more than a proof of concept. There is absolutely no reason to flash this unless you are personally working on making your own custom kernels. This kernel is not even an alpha release, it will never be developed or supported. If you choose to flash it just to toy around don't whine about functionality.
When custom kernels are available anything the hardware is capable of and drivers can be written for will be possible. Everyone needs to calm down and quit asking the same questions over and over.
Sent from my X10i using XDA Premium App
Have uploaded a video, does anyone know how to embed it in the post?
Thanks for the video!
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Thanks for the video!
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no problem
BTW. will it work on Freex10?
a2ha said:
BTW. will it work on Freex10?
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No. Z posted it in the bootloader cracking thread. This is only meant for stock 2.1 FW on. 49-.52 BB and is not functional for daily use. This is only meant as a test if you want a stable new kernel its still going to take a little while.
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BTW. will it work on Freex10?
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It won't work with any ROM 100% - its just designed for testing, you won't be able to use it for daily use yet.
If you just want to try it out, its possible it will boot up on freex10 and you will see the effects of not having a FPS cap - but it is unlikely the majority of things will work, like radio etc. as it is meant for stock 2.1 roms.
If you do want to try it, make a backup on xrecovery first
I dont know what you have xD
What do you mean with "its not ready for dayly use" ?
I use it now since yesterday afternoon and everything works perfect!
I had no random reboots and everything is very smooth!
My Battery lost 1 % with stable 1 Ghz (playing around and testing).
So not be scared! flash it!
Whitecookie said:
What do you mean with "its not ready for dayly use" ?
I use it now since yesterday afternoon and everything works perfect!
I had no random reboots and everything is very smooth!
My Battery lost 1 % with stable 1 Ghz (playing around and testing).
So not be scared! flash it!
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As in its only supported by the stock 2.1 ROM, and if you run into any problems with it, its not being supported so you won't get a fix
so for example if i install this kernel on my freex10, how can i remove it later if i have problems with it?
a2ha said:
so for example if i install this kernel on my freex10, how can i remove it later if i have problems with it?
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Create a backup on xrecovery before installing it, and then when you need to go back just restore it
Hey . Is this really working cos owain in ours minipro forums said its only first april joke, and we cant yet load custom kernel. Is there any difference between x10 bootloader and minis ??? How long it will take to do a fully working roms , softs to ours xperias ???
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@ Whitecookie:
Do you use the .504 2.1 ROM?
Does someone if it works with 2.0.2 (the ROM which Eminence V1.2 is based on) works 100% with this kernel?

Best custom rom

Yesterday i got an Iconia A500, first thing i did was, of course, to root it and install cwm recovery.
Now i want to flash a new rom but i don't have much time to try all roms and decide which one is the best.
So i decided to take a shortcut with this poll.
Here we go guys...
Which rom do you believe it's the best for Iconia?
Feel free to write comments for your decision. And thank you all for your time.
You missed off the Stock option.
I've tried all those custom ones, and they all have issues which Stock doesn't.
Plus, which one is "best" is purely subjective. All your poll will tell you is which one people use MOST, which doesn't necessarily make it the best.
Taboonay
imho
FloatingFatMan said:
You missed off the Stock option.
I've tried all those custom ones, and they all have issues which Stock doesn't.
Plus, which one is "best" is purely subjective. All your poll will tell you is which one people use MOST, which doesn't necessarily make it the best.
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I hear you or better read you mate and I know that the word "best" doesn't actually represent what I need but I will get an idea.
Can you please explain the issues the custom roms have? Cause I use custom roms since my first windows smartphone 3 years ago and I must say that I love custom roms.
yeah, you should probably add 'stock' and 'lightspeed' as the latter is gaining traction. i'm using stock rooted for now.
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yeah, you should probably add 'stock' and 'lightspeed' as the latter is gaining traction. i'm using stock rooted for now.
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I didn't add stock because i like the extras on the custom roms. As for lightspped it has too many apk's removed for my taste.
I have had my a500 for a month and I think I have tried every ROM except for the minimalist (or whatever it is now called). In general I have found the roms that are based on the stock rom are the best (taboonay, honeyvillain). Taboonay is cool because the developer, Vache, makes available a kitchen UI that is web based so you can modify the ROM and add/remove items. Very cool.
I used Primee which is a build of the Transformer rom for the first two weeks I had the device and I really liked it but there was some sort of dispute over kernel source which I don't come close to understanding and the developer took his toys and went home. He continues to build and support the rom on his own site but I like ROMs to have the visibility of XDA for support.
I tried all of the virtuous roms and it is cool to see roms from other devices but it always seems like there is some little tweak or lag that drives me crazy. Virtuous Galaxy is by far the slickest looking rom IMO. Dare I say that Samsung is almost Apple-like in their UI design (I mean that as a compliment I think).
Right now I am running Taboonay 1.1 with richardtrip's OC kernel and it is silky smooth. It is almost disappointing to have a ROM work so well because as an early Android adopter (HTC Magic), I sort of enjoy the journey more than the destination. Luckily, there is and always will be new ROMs to try.
anko184 said:
I hear you or better read you mate and I know that the word "best" doesn't actually represent what I need but I will get an idea.
Can you please explain the issues the custom roms have? Cause I use custom roms since my first windows smartphone 3 years ago and I must say that I love custom roms.
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I didn't add stock because i like the extras on the custom roms. As for lightspped it has too many apk's removed for my taste.
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By excluding ROMs that don't represent what you actually need, you render the whole poll null and void. For all you know, a ROM you left off could well be the most popular!
As for problems, it's things like camera not working properly, or rotation lock not working, or differences in how the external SD card is mounted, or random reboots, or preinstalled games from the stock ROM either missing or not working if you install them etc. All fairly minor things, but I like all the parts on my tab to work as they were meant to work. That's why I run a stock ROM, but use RichardTrips OC'd kernel (which is near to stock).
. That's why I run a stock ROM, but use RichardTrips OC'd kernel (which is near to stock).
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ditto. stock/richtrip oc kern
FloatingFatMan said:
You missed off the Stock option.
I've tried all those custom ones, and they all have issues which Stock doesn't.
Plus, which one is "best" is purely subjective. All your poll will tell you is which one people use MOST, which doesn't necessarily make it the best.
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Well it's a bit more complex than that, you also have to take into consideration (along with it being subjective) the fact that the results are only coming from people who like vote in polls
So strictly the thread title should be: Best custom rom - results based only on people who like to vote in polls
PS I did not vote - but currently using dexters new primee 3.2
MJ-12
I am using Virtuous Galaxy 1.04 ROM; the only issue is not being able to seek in the You Tube app; other than that it's a fast ROM.
My two favorite are not even on there. Lightspeed and Minimal. I like Lightspeed as I can use a custom kernel and clock the tablet to 1.6GHz. I like Minimal as it's a very well done rom without bloat. These are the only two I like better than stock. I've tried many of the others, but only those above have really been worth it for me.
can anyone reply me i am using taboonay and still not able to play HD movies on my TAb
i am not talking about 1080 but 720 MKV's still not working which is simply playable on my galaxy S
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Please suggest me Custom rom regarding this.
anko184 said:
Yesterday i got an Iconia A500, first thing i did was, of course, to root it and install cwm recovery.
Now i want to flash a new rom but i don't have much time to try all roms and decide which one is the best.
So i decided to take a shortcut with this poll.
Here we go guys...
Which rom do you believe it's the best for Iconia?
Feel free to write comments for your decision. And thank you all for your time.
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The best problem free for me is stock 3.1 and loving it, love the others but toooo many problems.
primee. 9-5a all the way. You can find it on tabletroms.com, and is by far the most stable, well built roms to date, with all the features of the transformer Rom but a hybrid base file system with a lot from the stock Iconia for compatibility
My comparison of 4 ROMS. Like Taboonay 2.1 the best.
I have flashed 4 different ROMS since I purchased my Iconia a500. Here is my take on the pros and cons.
• The first one I tried was Virtuous Picasso 1.1.0 [HC 3.1]. Super fast and had no problems, but I didn’t like the fact that it wasn’t based on an ACER build and there was no way to add the Acer stock games to the ROM. This ROM had the highest Quadrant score out of all the ROMs I tried. It’s discontinued, so there will be no more updates.
• The second one I tried was Honeyvillian 1.05 [HC 3.1]. Good speed, very reliable, and I was able to add the Acer stock games back to the ROM and flash an overclock kernel. The ROM was based on an ACER build, so all the stock software was included. I like some of the ACER stock software, but some of it I could live without. I was reluctant to upgrade to Honeyvillian 1.1 which is a Honeycomb 3.2 ROM because it was based on the a501 OTA update and not the a500 OTA update, and I decided to hold out for a Honeycomb 3.2 Rom that was based on the OTA update for the a500.
• The third ROM I tried was Acer_A500 OTA 7.006.01 [HC 3.2] Rooted w/ Busybox for CWR [Sep 17th, 2011] by ezterry. This ROM was very near stock but rooted. I was able to Flash the adhoc fix and set ro.carrier=wifi-only. It uses the default Acer kernel but I was able to flash an overclock kernel. The ROM was very smooth and had no problems. A great ROM if you want to stay very close to stock and like all the stock ACER software.
• The forth ROM I tried was Taboonay 2.1 [HC 3.2]. I decided to try this ROM because it is based on the a500 OTA 3.2 Honeycomb update for a500 users and the a501 OTA 3.2 update for a501 users. The ROM has all the Acer stock software removed, but you can use the online kitchen to add just the Acer apps and games you want and skip the ones you don’t want. Plus the games get installed to the data partition so they don’t take up room in the ROM it self, and they can be uninstalled. You can also use the online kitchen to install a few other goodies like themes and bootup animations. It has an overclock kernel built in and ro.carrier=wifi-only is set by default for a500 users. So far the speed is great. The only issue I have is that the screen sometimes turns off and on for a second when it sleeps on its own. If I put it to sleep by clicking the power button, the problem doesn’t occur. So far this is my favorite ROM because I get the benefits of Honeycomb 3.2 and I can pick the stock Acer apps I want. GREAT ROM!!! I think I will stay with this one for a while.
Hope this helps some of you that are doing your initial research on picking your first ROM.
Total noob question. I don't mind the stock rom but I would like to overclock. Is it possible to just keep stock rom but still use a kernel like tripps? Also, when 3.2 finally goes ota here in the states, do I need to put everything back to stock (netflix patch as an example) before I update as to not brick my device? Thanks for the help
kkholidaze said:
Total noob question. I don't mind the stock rom but I would like to overclock. Is it possible to just keep stock rom but still use a kernel like tripps? Also, when 3.2 finally goes ota here in the states, do I need to put everything back to stock (netflix patch as an example) before I update as to not brick my device? Thanks for the help
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RichardTrips kernel works fine with stock.
Regarding 3.2, if you take the FOTA, you will lose root, you will lose CWM, and you will lose the ability to flash custom ROMs and kernels. It has a new bootloader that hasn't been broken yet and so far, can't be rooted unless its done pre-flashing.
There's a modded version of the 3.2 stock in the dev section that doesn't do all this, from ezterry.
so do you recommend just flashing a custom rom that already has 3.2? also, what benefits should I see using trips kernal over the stock one? Lastly, can someone post a link to the trip kernel that I should download. Did a search and couldn't find it. Thanks
Yes.
Flash the ROM by ezterry. It's based on the 3.2 update but rooted. It is very near stock, but you can flash an OC kernel.

Need help from good people of xda

So i am on this forum for a long time now i tested every rom and kernel with games and how they work and all but now i need your help currently i am on stock rom and i am sick of it because it is slow and my internal memory is 150/190 mb used... i stopped playing games and i am now looking for fastest rom that won't bug,and i need it for messages and music player so do you have any opinion on what should i use cm7 ? kyrillos ? or there is something better ? faster ? easier to use?
ty to all that help me
Kyorarom would help in opening apps faster as you can use kyora app to lock apps in memory so they open faster. I recommend kyorarom too for its tweaks and theme. Its really up to you
Cheers
Sent from my i9003 powered by Cyanogenmod 7
Ok, let me summarize a bit... I was planning on making a guide for my setup for all those who want update but are a bit skeptic towards custom ROMs.
Let's get started...
Firstly, I have to state that I tried almost every ROM out there and Kyorarom, personally left biggest impact on me considering speed...
BUT, few days ago, I had some crazy picture in my head which was saying that modding one part of ROM crashes whole integrity of that ROM. So I was thinking that probably the best solution would be putting stock ROM and changing kernel only.
So, what did I do?
I decided to try to update ROM to original Froyo supplied from my provider (T-mobile Croatia)
1.) I flashed complete eclair...
2.) Failed to update to Froyo via Kies (who would say...)
- when Kies downloads a ROM it stores it to temp folder. As it didn't want to update from Kies, I took the same ROM and flashed it through ODIN
3.) As that worked perfectly, I had clean XXJPQ (So far the best one I got...) and decided to put a root as I faced some problems before while flashing kernels which should grant me a root...
4.) After I got root, it came to me that I just have to choose right kernel. I decided to go for fugumod. In this case, I took fugumod 2.4 800 Mhz (Cpu setup - 333.5 / 800 Mhz, governor performance)
Right now, you have a ultra mega fast ROM with incredible battery life. (Using ROM whole day with data and wifi + some music got it down to 85% from fully charged)
After that all I did was put 5LS mod and extended power menu...
I'm using Nemus Launcher which has left the smoothest impact on me and the most satisfying options provided for customizing...
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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As there wasn't recovery, and with that no backup option, I had feeling like it's really needed. Fugumod didn't serve any kind of recovery and I haven't found any kind of standalone install for CWM, it was time for me to change kernel. Candidates were kyorakernel (hillbeast) and astrum (moikop). As I tried kyorakernel before and it is based on fugumod and g3mod I decided to go for astrum which is based on samsung.
Results:
It showed great results for now. RZ Recovery packed with kernel is really great. Simple to use, has better interface...
Kernel also gives possibility to use Data2SD (hybrid) and OC to 1ghz (I preffer myself 800 mhz with lagfree governor)
Also, as it simply wasn't enough for me, I decided to go for CMbins 0.3.1 made by hillbeast.
OFC, it gave great boost to the phone...
I was thinking that there isn't much possibility to make it any better but once again I proved myself wrong...
that's a great idea though fugumod is a bit outdated.
any idea on how to enable hd2sd on that? otherwise i ll wait for hillbeast or moikop to iron the bugs on theirs...
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that's a great idea though fugumod is a bit outdated.
any idea on how to enable hd2sd on that? otherwise i ll wait for hillbeast or moikop to iron the bugs on theirs...
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No idea, sorry... To be honest I'm waiting for kyorakernel or astrum kernel too. Fugumod is solution because it's the best kernel for now, even outdated...
s'funny, i was thinking about this yesterday, i'm having problems with a gps app, dev thinks its because of custom rom. that got me to thinking about smonic (member) who is/was using stock jpu.
i was wondering if you could flash stock jpu, then g3mod 2.2.2 as kernel? then you would have cwm, extended power memory etc.
sd carc partition would also work?? (methinks? i have a lot of apps, and i use pretty much all of them!)
is this scenario viable????
pretty much a noob at these matters, i get it all, but i dont!!
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s'funny, i was thinking about this yesterday, i'm having problems with a gps app, dev thinks its because of custom rom. that got me to thinking about smonic (member) who is/was using stock jpu.
i was wondering if you could flash stock jpu, then g3mod 2.2.2 as kernel? then you would have cwm, extended power memory etc.
sd carc partition would also work?? (methinks? i have a lot of apps, and i use pretty much all of them!)
is this scenario viable????
pretty much a noob at these matters, i get it all, but i dont!!
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Of course it's viable I'm advising everyone to flash eclair and take froyo supplied from your provider via kies
problem there was i flashed froyo because my provider wanted me to hand in phone and have it sent off to be updated, taking 2 weeks...
thats why i began on the slippery slope to flashing and rooting
but flashing stock jpu from the list somewhere on this site should work too? or not?
edit- maybe we should start this as a new thread, kinda hijacked this one....not intended @shadowmaniac.
Skivit said:
problem there was i flashed froyo because my provider wanted me to hand in phone and have it sent off to be updated, taking 2 weeks...
thats why i began on the slippery slope to flashing and rooting
but flashing stock jpu from the list somewhere on this site should work too? or not?
edit- maybe we should start this as a new thread, kinda hijacked this one....not intended @shadowmaniac.
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Go to sammobile.com and find the firmware you want
Cheers
Sent from my i9003 powered by Cyanogenmod 7
Skivit said:
problem there was i flashed froyo because my provider wanted me to hand in phone and have it sent off to be updated, taking 2 weeks...
thats why i began on the slippery slope to flashing and rooting
but flashing stock jpu from the list somewhere on this site should work too? or not?
edit- maybe we should start this as a new thread, kinda hijacked this one....not intended @shadowmaniac.
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If kies detects your phone you should be on your way to update. It probably wouldn't want to update it but will download ROM in temp folder. You can take it from there and flash via odin.

Good and stable ROMS

Hey guys, so I'm kinda new at doing custom roms and kernels and I'm super eager to learn everything. I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone succesfully yesterday. But of course, rooting the nexus s is a must to install custom roms.
I want to know what you guys think are GOOD and STABLE ROMS where everything seems to function.
I was looking at the nexusshacks website and they have the AOKP kang jellybean ROM but I'm hearing from a bit of people that not everything works and it freezes at the boot screen. also there's a problem that apparently you cant see your gallery and music, and also data doesnt work on it.... I just want something that works good and is stable and gives me good battery life!
Thanks for your time
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Hey guys, so I'm kinda new at doing custom roms and kernels and I'm super eager to learn everything. I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone succesfully yesterday. But of course, rooting the nexus s is a must to install custom roms.
I want to know what you guys think are GOOD and STABLE ROMS where everything seems to function.
I was looking at the nexusshacks website and they have the AOKP kang jellybean ROM but I'm hearing from a bit of people that not everything works and it freezes at the boot screen. also there's a problem that apparently you cant see your gallery and music, and also data doesnt work on it.... I just want something that works good and is stable and gives me good battery life!
Thanks for your time
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The best thing about these ROM is you can try them for yourself and see if it work for you.
A lot of people don't follow the instruction and complain all the time, there are people enjoying the ROM and you will never hear from them. My respect to the developers who do great work, because of them I have the latest and best android experience ever, for the last two years I have no need to upgrade my phone.
Try them all.
Robert
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The best thing about these ROM is you can try them for yourself and see if it work for you.
A lot of people don't follow the instruction and complain all the time, there are people enjoying the ROM and you will never hear from them. My respect to the developers who do great work, because of them I have the latest and best android experience ever, for the last two years I have no need to upgrade my phone.
Try them all.
Robert
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Cool, thanks alot for the advice, I'd still like to know what other ROMs are out there tho so that I can try them all out one day
Is there a good kernel? I'm not too educated on kernels lol
Hi
Rooting isn't a must for installing custom roms you can always use fastboot tool to install custom recovery
I've flashed one million custom roms to my i9023. And what I learned from it is flashing most of them was just a waste of time. However, if I hadn't done this, I wouldn't have known what to choose now. Gingbread roms are really fast and responsive. However they are not so smooth when it comes to scrolling. Also gingerbread roms lack a lot of nice features that come in later builds.
ICS was a misunderstanding for me. It was slow, laggy but the functionality was better than gingerbread. I was ready to sell my nexus because of that disappointment.
Finally Jelly Bean came along. And that, my friend is something different. Project butter makes the phone so smooth, scrolling is superb, animations and applications seems so smooth now. Speed of gingerbread(almost) and looks and functionality of ics
You can try every rom you can. You're gonna waste a lot of time just on flashing restoring, flashing and restoring and so on. You might even get frustrated. Or you can try this and simply start liking your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854366
This is pretty stock, just the way I like it. It's freaking smooth, it hardly ever lags, perfect to bring you some smile from using your nexus most of other roms always come up with some bug or lack of some feature that works on stock rom. The rom I mentioned simply works. Trust me and install this one and you won't regret
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nexususer1 said:
Hi
Rooting isn't a must for installing custom roms you can always use fastboot tool to install custom recovery
I've flashed one million custom roms to my i9023. And what I learned from it is flashing most of them was just a waste of time. However, if I hadn't done this, I wouldn't have known what to choose now. Gingbread roms are really fast and responsive. However they are not so smooth when it comes to scrolling. Also gingerbread roms lack a lot of nice features that come in later builds.
ICS was a misunderstanding for me. It was slow, laggy but the functionality was better than gingerbread. I was ready to sell my nexus because of that disappointment.
Finally Jelly Bean came along. And that, my friend is something different. Project butter makes the phone so smooth, scrolling is superb, animations and applications seems so smooth now. Speed of gingerbread(almost) and looks and functionality of ics
You can try every rom you can. You're gonna waste a lot of time just on flashing restoring, flashing and restoring and so on. You might even get frustrated. Or you can try this and simply start liking your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854366
This is pretty stock, just the way I like it. It's freaking smooth, it hardly ever lags, perfect to bring you some smile from using your nexus most of other roms always come up with some bug or lack of some feature that works on stock rom. The rom I mentioned simply works. Trust me and install this one and you won't regret
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cool thanks man... ONE question before I begin... Im assuming the kernel is already in the ROM .zip file here right? Now if the kernel is seperate do you just add into the SD card like adding a ROM to the sd card? do you have to do anything under recovery?
Kernel is included. Just install this rom from the recovery kernels are always in a zip file, you install them like you install a rom.
But this time you don't have to even think about the kernel, because it's already built into whole rom zip file
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the pic & music issue is probably related to the bad Rom manager app update that put .nomedia files where they didn't belong.
I always run a new/updated Rom with its baked in kernel for a day or two to see how it does before flashing a separate kernel, unless I have major issues related to the baked in kernel. Not all devices act the same, even on the exact same setup.
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MRsf27 said:
Hey guys, so I'm kinda new at doing custom roms and kernels and I'm super eager to learn everything. I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone succesfully yesterday. But of course, rooting the nexus s is a must to install custom roms.
I want to know what you guys think are GOOD and STABLE ROMS where everything seems to function.
I was looking at the nexusshacks website and they have the AOKP kang jellybean ROM but I'm hearing from a bit of people that not everything works and it freezes at the boot screen. also there's a problem that apparently you cant see your gallery and music, and also data doesnt work on it.... I just want something that works good and is stable and gives me good battery life!
Thanks for your time
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If you're new to the whole flashing game with the android devices id say start with Flashing Custom Kernels. So you can get the the feel for what just the kernel can do for your phone. There's a couple well named ones that you might hear a lot about like the Matr1x Kernel, GLaDOS Kernel, Thalamus Kernel. For the most part a few of them have the same stuff but certain Kernels run faster or smoother. Once you get the hang of that then move to Custom ROMS. As everyone says you kinda have to try out Everything for yourself as 2 people can have 2 completely different experiences with flashing. Essentially though, the Names that you see a lot are typically the most liked ROMS and Kernels for there Features and Stability.
Happy Flashing
I think its the other way around due to fact that I would not recommend flashing a kernel over stock ota without backing up first. Reason for this is that if you want to get an ota update with the stock ROM it won't work if the kernel is different from the one Google provides (experienced this problem while trying to flash a completely stock Google provided rom). So I would first flash a ROM and test it, trying as many features and see if that's what I like and then start experimenting with different kernels as most might not be stable for your particular phone. I am a vanilla Android type of person nonetheless.
Note: the rom a developer chooses are most likely the ones that he thinks are the most stable so in theory you should not run into any problem with it.
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Hey guys i really appreciate the advise. Just to let you all know, I flashed AOKP kang ROM and it's so smooth and quick. I also flashed a matrix kernel v.22 (believe its the cfc version). However, I was really hoping to overclock my cpu a little to get some better gaming performance. I'm looking everything under the ROM settings and the actual phone settings to see if there's anything to change for the cpu.
How do I overclock the cpu??? I know there's customizable roms where you can overclock the cpu for games then tone it down for normal usage and what not; that's really what I wanted.
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Hey guys i really appreciate the advise. Just to let you all know, I flashed AOKP kang ROM and it's so smooth and quick. I also flashed a matrix kernel v.22 (believe its the cfc version). However, I was really hoping to overclock my cpu a little to get some better gaming performance. I'm looking everything under the ROM settings and the actual phone settings to see if there's anything to change for the cpu.
How do I overclock the cpu??? I know there's customizable roms where you can overclock the cpu for games then tone it down for normal usage and what not; that's really what I wanted.
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I use a an APP called "NSTools" or "SetCPU"
I'm order to oc, you must be using a kernel that supports oc. The matr1x 22.5 (his jb version) doesn't support oc, but he should have a new version it soon. I can't say if it can be overclocked though.
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Hey thanks for the info... I was just be wondering if you know of any kernels that would go with aokp kang that I can over clock?
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OK wow I just installed my previous apps and now the phone is slow and buggy as hell.. must've rebooted itself at least 10 Tims in then last hour while I using it
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good question.. personally I use codename (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839249) with air kernel(that supports oc, even if I set max cpu 1000 as default).. really fast, no lags with good battery life and everything seems work great. I've tried a lot of roms and a lot of them are really good (I like to change a lot) and in my opinion you have to try a lot of them and chose your favourite
p.s.every time you flash a rom or kernel is better to make a backup(and then a wipe), so if something went wrong you can restore the phone as it was before.. sometimes kernel is not included in rom, you have to check it in phone informations.
I hope this was what you needed
serafo said:
good question.. personally I use codename (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839249) with air kernel(that supports oc, even if I set max cpu 1000 as default).. really fast, no lags with good battery life and everything seems work great. I've tried a lot of roms and a lot of them are really good (I like to change a lot) and in my opinion you have to try a lot of them and chose your favourite
p.s.every time you flash a rom or kernel is better to make a backup(and then a wipe), so if something went wrong you can restore the phone as it was before.. sometimes kernel is not included in rom, you have to check it in phone informations.
I hope this was what you needed
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well i'll tell you right now, AOKP kang is not for me. Keeps crashing, almost all ****ing day. Its rebooted itself atleast 10 times within the last 10 mins. i click something and it freezes and crashes and reboots... ts ****ing ridiculous... I'm gonna go to codename
MRsf27 said:
well i'll tell you right now, AOKP kang is not for me. Keeps crashing, almost all ****ing day. Its rebooted itself atleast 10 times within the last 10 mins. i click something and it freezes and crashes and reboots... ts ****ing ridiculous... I'm gonna go to codename
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ahahah ok thanks for the information you saved my time
aww I forgot a thing.. usually results are different for different models. I have i9023 but I think it's good even in other models
let me know your opinion about it
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ahahah ok thanks for the information you saved my time
aww I forgot a thing.. usually results are different for different models. I have i9023 but I think it's good even in other models
let me know your opinion about it
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Hey I actually checked out that codename jellybean thread you showed me... I clicked on the link and their zip is 3.1.0 and i have 3.3.2 downloaded on my computer.... I got the file from nexusshacks.com - am i missing something? Also, Im not sure if there's a kernal that comes with it, so i was wondering if there is any kernels and if there is, do you have a link?:cyclops:
EDIT: I'm going to have to apologize to AOKP. I think the ROM i was running on my phone was a buggy ROM, the unstable one before BUILD 1. I didnt realize this until I watched a video on nexusshacks.com.. but either way i flashed codename jellybean
MRsf27 said:
Hey I actually checked out that codename jellybean thread you showed me... I clicked on the link and their zip is 3.1.0 and i have 3.3.2 downloaded on my computer.... I got the file from nexusshacks.com - am i missing something? Also, Im not sure if there's a kernal that comes with it, so i was wondering if there is any kernels and if there is, do you have a link?:cyclops:
EDIT: I'm going to have to apologize to AOKP. I think the ROM i was running on my phone was a buggy ROM, the unstable one before BUILD 1. I didnt realize this until I watched a video on nexusshacks.com.. but either way i flashed codename jellybean
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I gave you the link with 3.3.2.. even because it's the same ad 3.3.0 but updated:laugh:
kernel is not included in that rom.. I use air kernel, which has everything you asked for (use nstools to control it). this is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842
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I gave you the link with 3.3.2.. even because it's the same ad 3.3.0 but updated:laugh:
kernel is not included in that rom.. I use air kernel, which has everything you asked for (use nstools to control it). this is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842
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hey, I just flashed codename and air kernel (no modifications) and i just downloaded NStools. It came as an apk. file, I was just wondering what to do with this? do i just throw it into my SD card?

[Q] Custom Kernel and updates

Heya, everybody.
I'd like to know if you guys could recommend a good kernel for undervolting and overclocking the Nexus 7. (I'm only looking into very mild overclocking, I don't want worse battery life)
But here's the main thing: I'm wondering about how you'd best go about updating your tablet after flashing a custom kernel. Will I be able to take OTA updates? Am I forced to flash new ROMs every update?
I'd just like the most simple way of updating my OS while being able to overclock and undervolt my Nexus 7. (OTA updates would be the most simple, right? If possible ofc)
I've got a Nexus 7 32GB. Android 4.2.1, IC 3568A-ME370T, Model ME370T, Build JOP40D
there aren't many kernels so quick search through android/original sections 1st pages you can find information about everything you need. i would suggest m-kernel or omega most stable (on my device) and with features you seek, although OC is kinda pointless IMHO if you are not going to benchmark it and given how scores/real world perfomance show well...it's pointless
i think you can't easily just update rom and keep kernel, but it's not much work, download newer version of the rom flash it, flash kernel, boot and resume... 5mins tops.
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there aren't many kernels so quick search through android/original sections 1st pages you can find information about everything you need. i would suggest m-kernel or omega most stable (on my device) and with features you seek
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Okay, I'll have a look at them. Thanks.
OC is kinda pointless IMHO if you are not going to benchmark it and given how scores/real world perfomance show well...it's pointless
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Well, even if I'm only getting a 5% increase in performance or battery life I still consider it worth it. It's a rather simple upgrade that will last for years (I plan on taking good care of my device )
i think you can't easily just update rom and keep kernel, but it's not much work, download newer version of the rom flash it, flash kernel, boot and resume... 5mins tops.
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Wait, so you can update Kernel and ROM separately?
Am I correct in assuming that most ROMs (including stock) come with a Kernel that will replace whatever Kernel I have?
I am using trinity kernel alpha 4 version along with cm 10.1 ROM. Can over clock to 1.7 GHz with this kernel. Downloaded trinity tool box also. You can under clock, over clock and set voltages along with some kernel tweaks. Has worked flawlessly so far. I also downloaded and installed cyan delta app. It will flash the delta file of each nightly you want and also flash kernel all in one shot. (Cyan Delta will only work with CyanogenMod ROMs.)
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kevk60 said:
I am using trinity kernel alpha 4 version along with cm 10.1 ROM. Can over clock to 1.7 GHz with this kernel. Downloaded trinity tool box also. You can under clock, over clock and set voltages along with some kernel tweaks. Has worked flawlessly so far. I also downloaded and installed cyan delta app. It will flash the delta file of each nightly you want and also flash kernel all in one shot. (Cyan Delta will only work with CyanogenMod ROMs.)
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I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
I'll probably use Franco if possible, cuz amazing battery life. I noticed that my Nexus 7 only lasts like 5hours when gaming with it(stock clocks). That's not good enough for me! :S
If it doesn't work I'll probably go for Omega or M-Kernel. (or AOKP stock kernel)
I'll probably go for Paranoid Android 3.0 with the Franco kernel. I've read that they're compatible.
Updating to newer versions might be a bit of a pain, but the cool functions are probably worth it :3
You don't need to update every time a new version of a ROM or Kernel comes out, you know. If it's setup and working perfectly, the best thing to do would be to enjoy your tablet.
OTA updates do a lot of validation checks before they begin; in fact, they perform a checksum on every file targeted for a patch update.
It is quite common (not always, but common) for the kernel or ramdisk to be modified during an OTA update - so this means a high likelihood that an OTA update will not succeed on a device with a custom kernel.
There are lots of ways to do what you want, though; two basic strategies would be:
- From a backup, restore only the (stock) boot partition. Apply the OTA, and then restore a backup of your OC kernel/boot partition.
- Using Titanium Backup (or Carbon), back up your apps & data. Restore a pure stock backup, and take the OTA update on that. Make a Nandroid Backup of this. Flash the replacement kernel & a root kit. Boot and restore your apps. (This method is more labor intensive).
Note the frequent mention of full (nandroid) backups in the above. Backups are a good thing to have; make them early and often.
Anyway, there you go - two methods for the price of zero.
I prefer PA3.0 & Motley Kernel
Searz said:
I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
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I'll probably go for Paranoid Android 3.0 with the Franco kernel. I've read that they're compatible.
Updating to newer versions might be a bit of a pain, but the cool functions are probably worth it :3
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I use PA3.0 with Motley Kernel and it works like a champ. There are stretches where I get 2-3 days of battery life (but I am paranoid and have everything disabled when I don't use it, and brightness down to ~15%). The link you provided though is a good resource.
--dchriste
Searz said:
I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
I'll probably use Franco if possible, cuz amazing battery life. I noticed that my Nexus 7 only lasts like 5hours when gaming with it(stock clocks). That's not good enough for me! :S
If it doesn't work I'll probably go for Omega or M-Kernel. (or AOKP stock kernel)
I'll probably go for Paranoid Android 3.0 with the Franco kernel. I've read that they're compatible.
Updating to newer versions might be a bit of a pain, but the cool functions are probably worth it :3
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Well don't expect major improvement in battery life while gaming, maybe if you down clock CPU for less demanding games, if you run demanding 3d games like Horn you will drain battery fast. Kernels change from version to version, performance and battery wise, so try different versions from same Dev. When it comes to games the way tegra 3 is designed you will not see much of benefit if any from oc cpu. Just look at the latest m36 kernel, your n7 will basically become dual core device with immeasurable performance loss. All I want to say don't expect wonders. If you are after battery life I would suggest you to look into other less bloated ROMs, like code fire, dirtybox, rasbean jelly. Paranoid is great in some aspects but I found less popular roms are easier on the battery, but not by a large margin.
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I would have to agree. You do not have to update your rom with every nightly or your kernel with every version. If your tab is working fine, use it for what you got it for. Sorta like Murphy's law. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. (Read the changelogs)
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ynrozturk said:
You don't need to update every time a new version of a ROM or Kernel comes out, you know. If it's setup and working perfectly, the best thing to do would be to enjoy your tablet.
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kevk60 said:
I would have to agree. You do not have to update your rom with every nightly or your kernel with every version. If your tab is working fine, use it for what you got it for. Sorta like Murphy's law. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. (Read the changelogs)
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Yea, I won't be reflashing things unless there's new features that I really want.
dchriste90 said:
I use PA3.0 with Motley Kernel and it works like a champ. There are stretches where I get 2-3 days of battery life (but I am paranoid and have everything disabled when I don't use it, and brightness down to ~15%). The link you provided though is a good resource.
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Motley is apparently one of the "worst" kernels when it comes to optimization and battery life. The best thing about it is probably the features, but I don't really need any of them, so I probably won't be using that one
bftb0 said:
OTA updates do a lot of validation checks before they begin; in fact, they perform a checksum on every file targeted for a patch update.
It is quite common (not always, but common) for the kernel or ramdisk to be modified during an OTA update - so this means a high likelihood that an OTA update will not succeed on a device with a custom kernel.
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Yea, that seems to be the case from what I've read. But flashing the stock kernel would make it work fine, right?
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- From a backup, restore only the (stock) boot partition. Apply the OTA, and then restore a backup of your OC kernel/boot partition.
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This seems like it has a possibility of going wrong. I think I'll go with the second method.
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- Using Titanium Backup (or Carbon), back up your apps & data. Restore a pure stock backup, and take the OTA update on that. Make a Nandroid Backup of this. Flash the replacement kernel & a root kit. Boot and restore your apps. (This method is more labor intensive).
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This method is actually not that "labor intensive". As long as you've got Ti Backup Pro it's very easy to do this, you just gotta wait a while things backup/restore.
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Well don't expect major improvement in battery life while gaming, maybe if you down clock CPU for less demanding games, if you run demanding 3d games like Horn you will drain battery fast.
If you are after battery life I would suggest you to look into other less bloated ROMs, like code fire, dirtybox, rasbean jelly. Paranoid is great in some aspects but I found less popular roms are easier on the battery, but not by a large margin.
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Yea, I realize now that battery life when gaming probably won't change much.
Battery life is very important to me, but if it comes at the expense of features then the difference has to be noticeable.
How has your experience been? (compare the ROMs you've used)

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