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[INFO] How to Allow Multiple Remote Desktop Sessions

Hi,
I want my transformer to do everything my old netbook did and prove that is indeed possible. As you all probably know this does take some workarounds.
My mother always told me, if you're I doubt then someone else probably also is.
There for Ill post this up and my reason why.
One thing I cannot get working on Android is java sites like my online banking system. I'm sure with time it'll be possible but for now its not, so I thought of a work around which works for me with my setup.
I have a HTPC in my living room running Windows 7, it runs our TV, movies, recordings and such. I set up a user on this server which I use for when I vnc into to run stuff I can't on the Transformer, however it was annoying that the media center would have to shut down in order for me to do my vnc stuff, so I started looking around the net for a solution.
Hence this post. There is a way to get multiple users onto windows 7 simultaneously
http://www.ehow.com/how_6820442_allow-multiple-remote-desktop-sessions.html
The above article explains exactly what you need to do, easy easy...
Now I can view TV while getting banking done through a rdp connection.
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What do you actually use webtop for?

I havent used it yet, but I may install the webtop over HDMI hack soon. I am wondering what people actually use webtop for though.
Any by that I dont mean I want an answer as to what it CAN be used for, but what YOU ACTUALLY are using it for, if that makes sense.
Thanks

Wond3r said:
I havent used it yet, but I may install the webtop over HDMI hack soon. I am wondering what people actually use webtop for though.
Any by that I dont mean I want an answer as to what it CAN be used for, but what YOU ACTUALLY are using it for, if that makes sense.
Thanks
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I mainly use it to take notes in classes, remote desktop into my desktop when i'm away, browse the Web in bed. This mostly applies to using the laptop dock though, do not sure how much this will help you.
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My primary use of webtop is landscape mirroring of the phone screen. It's pretty convenient when your out and can just plug into an hdmi port and have streaming netflix on a big screen. In addition to having the phone screen, the full firefox browser is nice for youtube and streaming from my orb media server back at home.
IMO the webtop interface is what sets this phone apart from other android based devices out there and I love messing with it. Someday I'll get around to setting up full ubuntu if not just for the bragging rights. "My phone is also a complete linux computer."

I mostly use it to get remote terminal sessions into my Unix and Linux boxes at work. And for IRC, of course.
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I dont use it at all.

I love my lapdock.
I use it at work to see my Ip cameras and answer mails.
At home I use it for browsing the web, checking videos and my tv series.
I edit some of my files and print them right away.
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I use Webtop along with my Lapdock to:
1. Browse the web natively
2. Do some website editing, managing and creation.
3. Work through FTP
4. Do some Word and Excel document creation and editing
5. Do some basic Photoshop editing (GIMP)
6. Do major remote desktop through LogMeIn (Website) to my workplace and family computers.
Now I don't have to haul my heavy laptop.
Cheers!

i just use hdmi hack with custom webtop; xfdesktop and xfce4-panel is the base of it anyway
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Rayan said:
I use Webtop along with my Lapdock to:
1. Browse the web natively
2. Do some website editing, managing and creation.
3. Work through FTP
4. Do some Word and Excel document creation and editing
5. Do some basic Photoshop editing (GIMP)
6. Do major remote desktop through LogMeIn (Website) to my workplace and family computers.
Now I don't have to haul my heavy laptop.
Cheers!
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Can u help me doing point 4 and 6 on your list?
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[Q][DEV][Webtop Experts] Webtop...Ubuntu, Debian Vs. Real world

Hi,
I have been doing some research and I just hit a wall and can't go any further.
I work for a software company that builds it's own products and has a lot of clients.
I've always liked the idea of webtop but never got around to even look at it as a laptop replacement till now upto an extent.
I installed Debian on webtop and tried to get vpn to work and failed miserably. Not to mention I haven't touched linux in 10 years.
What I need to keep webtop/lapdock:
Clean/Lightweight environment with fully functional browser.
Ability to remote desktop.
Ability to connect to vpn on clients' side and remote into servers to fix small issues.
Ability to mess with the portal we have to update quick changes for clients.
I know you can't do it all out of the box.
I installed Debian but got stuck on installing Cisco Anyconnect.
Installed openconnect but can't connect as it says no tun/tap driver found.
gnome-panel doesn't work but I can live with webtop panels but my OCD kills me having firefox and iceweasel both.
Iceweasel can't have flash and plugins as I could not find any plugins for armel.
All plugins are for i386 or amd64.
My simple question is:
Can I do all this from this webtop or I should just keep carrying laptop.
Can I carry lapdock when I go for vacation and stuff to not worry about a $1500 laptop and just carry $200 lapdock so I can still do something if sh*t hits the fan.
I think I wrote a long enough story to give you guys a basic understanding.
Any help/input would be greatly appreciated.
If lapdock can't replace laptop for basic needs of a software developer then I might as well just sell it and move to Droid 2 Global.
:flameSuitOn: just in case
Thank you in advance for your time and effort.

I just don't think the webtop idea is quite there yet. Im personally in the IT industry and tried to use the atrix as my primary device while being on the road and simply failed. I was able to get gnome-panel working amongst other things but its far too sluggish. Try logmein and see what happens lol. The concept is truely amazing but that's as far as it goes.
Now if all you need to do is vpn, log into routers/switches etc it will do the job. Its much easier then pulling out a laptop and waiting for windows to boot. But anything extensive, Java or Flash based is impossible.
Just my. 02 cents.

It's a little difficult to try to use the lapdock as your primary device. I personally use it as my laptop at college (i have a desktop in my room) I can rdp into my desktop just fine, and access all programs from there, but the experience is definitely a bit laggy. You can try to get it a bit faster if you overclock, but that's a whole other can of worms. Firefox 6 runs, and can use most add-ons...
Personally, I might look into something like the ASUS Transformer Prime, once the dev scene there gets into gear. I think if they could get a full ubuntu (or any linux distro) running, it would be a far better experience on Tegra 3. But then you wouldn't have a smartphone...
Why don't you try it out? See how well it works if you try and use it as your daily work computer for a couple of weeks. I know other's have installed pretty much every ARM compiled program for ubuntu, including gnome panel, so it wouldn't hurt to try.

Faux updated his kernal to use zram this is supposed to help speed up webtop once activated
Just thought I'd add that in
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Sorry to hear all of you failing with the Lapdock...
In my case it's been a great and convenient alternative. I work as a Network Administrator.
All I need is a browser, internet access (3G or wifi) and LogMeIn account (the free one works great).
I remote into my corporate computers and servers to do most if not all of my work. No need to vpn as before since all resources are available once I get on my corporate computer via LogMeIn. Just install LogMeIn on your main computer, secure it and you are done!
There's actually no need to mod webtop or add any other feature.

Rayan said:
Sorry to hear all of you failing with the Lapdock...
In my case it's been a great and convenient alternative. I work as a Network Administrator.
All I need is a browser, internet access (3G or wifi) and LogMeIn account (the free one works great).
I remote into my corporate computers and servers to do most if not all of my work. No need to vpn as before since all resources are available once I get on my corporate computer via LogMeIn. Just install LogMeIn on your main computer, secure it and you are done!
There's actually no need to mod webtop or add any other feature.
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I am with you on this. I am a server/desktop engineer and do some of the same tasks you speak of. it works great for a little bit I need. I am running the debian mod and the LXTerm is epic for what I need. I also use Citrix from my phone fullscreen and this also works really well if I am in a pinch and need access to our proprietary junk. I think if the CM webtop ever gets setup, it will be more of a linux box than a slim halfbaked ubuntu that moto uses(im hoping). All in all though, it works for what I need with my other tools. I also found I can use app "VPN Widget" over the 4G connection and I hook straight in to our network no citrix needed. It wont work for the wifi, but that is a limitation of the app. I agree, at times its slow for some flash based things, but really flash is a RAM whore anyhow. I also noticed a quirk with java not being installed, but I may try to tackle that this afternoon

Thansk Rayan, I thought about Logmein but I just think it's kind of slow if you want to do something quick and get out, you know?
LXTerm? What does that do?
I tried installing Cisco Anyconnect VPN and it killed webtop, started again and wondering what other vpn would work like cisco anyconnect client.

I'm a sysadmin, and I have completely replaced my laptop with the ATRIX and its webtop. But we run Citrix XenApp and XenDesktop at work, so I mainly use webtop or the android receiver to connect to my hosted apps and desktops. For that purpose the ATRIX really is the nirvana phone.
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Windows 7 & MS Office for Android

This is using the app Onlive Desktop, available in the market but daftly "not compatible"
Alternative download links near the bottom of this android police page:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-and-more-hands-on/#download-and-availability

OK so download the app from android police.
go to the onlive website, sign up for an account, ignore the USA only nonsense, it works fine in uk.
install the app, sign in, and you get, windows desktop with Office.
you can minimise, resize windows, spell check works, its fast and smooth and the most awesome app i have ever seen - it ROCKS
You need to pay $5 per month for internet explorer but Office is free with 2gb dropbox storage.
Pics attached!!!!!!

wow. That's cool. Works well.

Anyone have it working with the keyboard dock??
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Keyboard dock works perfectly.
The back key works like the ESC button in excel for example.
shortcuts work in word too.
The 2gb storage is not dropbox btw, its onlive's own servers. There is only 1 save place in the app which auto syncs with their cloud storage on the onlive servers, which is not connected to your transformers file structure.
So to open apps on your computer you have to go to:
http://files.onlive.com where you login again and use a web interface to upload, download, delete, rename.
I did this in dolphin browser - you cant do this from within the app, you have to use an alternate browser.
Makes it a bit harder to keep all your files synced etc but i think they are working on improving the storage / saving relationship so it will be like ubuntu and share your data - who knows if or when though!
only thing i have found missing - no macros in excel, you cant open the VBA coding pages or bring up a macro tab or recording ability. not the end of the world but would have been nice!
website interface pic attached:

how did you get the dock to work?
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not sure what you mean? Is your dock not doing anything at all in Onlive?
I just started typing and using the trackpad, nothing special, it was always working.
try restarting or maybe unplugging and replugging your dock into the tablet to see if that does it.

Got it to work had to uninstall the app and reinstall
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I wish there was a way to change the keyboard language then its will be perfect

Well, you can change the language allright (I tried Word in french) but the keyboard layout seems to be impossible to enable... so as much as I like the concept, this app is useless for me, as I just can't type in french...
Must be the reason why it is not available in my country, according to the Market.

Does networking work on it? Is there any way to get another browser on it without having to pay for IE?

It's nice but the novelty wears off pretty quick IMO. The features are too limited. I would rather use splashtop to stream my own win 7.

horndroid said:
It's nice but the novelty wears off pretty quick IMO. The features are too limited. I would rather use splashtop to stream my own win 7.
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Agree Nice to have a familiar page to work on, but unless you have wifi access it is useless. Several other tools offer many of the functions, without the strings attached. Also company not clear about security of your saved docs.

The transformer is compatible if you install by going to market.android.com in your browser and pushing the install to your device. Weird, but it works.

Sweeny Russ said:
The transformer is compatible if you install by going to market.android.com in your browser and pushing the install to your device. Weird, but it works.
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It should be compatible from the market on the tablet that's how I got it.

External mouse seems to work OK but the right-click was not working properly (at all). Scroll wheel wasn't working either.

If anyone is paying for the plus features can you install programs on it?
I heard you can but that would be awesome if you could use steam or something or install onlive.. (lol)
It might be a really limited version of windows 7 but if you can install programs that's pretty cool. I have a macbook unfortunately so I think it's really cool being able to play around with windows 7 even if it's not full featured. And to give onlive credit. Quite a few of those "touch screen" tablet like windows 7 devices run around $1,000 or so. I've played with a few at the MS Store. Not everyone might have a use for this but I'l sure some will and it's just really cool to be able to do.

I too would only be interested in this if I can use some of my familiar windows apps, like photoshop and after effects..that would be the only reason if onlive can get these apps installed and working on my TF, otherwise I will stick with splashtop and just remote to my home-based PC.

luna_c666 said:
I too would only be interested in this if I can use some of my familiar windows apps, like photoshop and after effects..that would be the only reason if onlive can get these apps installed and working on my TF, otherwise I will stick with splashtop and just remote to my home-based PC.
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Then OnLive will have to pay Adobe a ton of licensing fee, which will be passed down to the users, or resort to using advertisements.
Either way, I am not willing to pay a fee or deal with advertisements to use programs that I already have(not gonna say own, lol) on my personal computer.

i have just used word and excel to prep a finance report, works fine. Bit slower and clunkier than doing it on a PC, but if you dont have a PC and therefore cannot use splashtop then this is a decent solution.
i needed to use both word and excel, you just cannot do that in polaris - it only allows 1 type of document open at once so you can flick between the two.
i tried using kingsoft office but you cant even do bullet points in its word, and its excel cant even do formulas lol
so for me to use word and excel, onlive is the only way and it worked fine, even if a bit slower than an actual PC.
thumbs up from me!

Actually using Windows 8 on a desktop or non touch laptop

First off this is in no way trolling or bashing; but I have installed Windows 8 on both on one of my laptops and PC but I just noticed that I really don't use them that much. It seems that it just doesn't catch my attention and is too much of a bother to try to use the mouse and keyboard to navigate in between the Metro UI and desktop. Now I'm perrty sure that it is awesome on a touch device but I have not tried it yet.
How many people on here actually use Windows 8 on a non touch device on a daily basis? With out getting bored with it?

I am using Windows8 as my second system for daily use. I have installed it on a small partition, so I have Windows 7 and 8 in my pc.
I do not find it to be boring or difficult to use. It is true the first times you are a bit messed, but once you get used to Metro gestures it is easy and really quick to use Windows.
I am not sure how you are trying to navigate between Metro and Desktop or how are you using Windows. But you do not need to access Desktop to open programs. Once you install any program it appears in Metro, just click in the tile and you go directly to Desktop with the program launched. It is that easy.
I hope this can be helpful to you

i've also been using win 8 on my notebook and my desktop since the first preview. haven't had any issues navigating. of course its a little confusing using it for the first time, but after about a day its simple.
Haven't gotten bored of it either. for being previews, they run pretty darn smooth.

i tried using it on my laptop but i got rid of it in favor of ubuntu 11.10
it felt like trying to use android on my laptop(just overly confusing and a pain to use the GUI)
i do however believe windows 8 will kill off the laptop/netbook and all other tablets successfully, just take a x64 based tablet like the acer w500 or an arm based tablet like the transformer prime and put windows 8 on them, you will get a tablet when you are playing, and laptop when you're working

I use (and have used) Windows 8 on my non touch NetBook since Developers preview and love it it's also my primary operating system.
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I've actually been using it for a while and really find it akward to use on a regular desktop. I am waiting to try and possibly buy it on tablet. I have however tried the Transformer Prime running android and I have to say I was impressed by it; hope Windows 8 is as good on a tablet because I am not an andorid or ipad person.

sinister1 said:
I've actually been using it for a while and really find it akward to use on a regular desktop. I am waiting to try and possibly buy it on tablet. I have however tried the Transformer Prime running android and I have to say I was impressed by it; hope Windows 8 is as good on a tablet because I am not an andorid or ipad person.
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You should buy any windows 7 tab and put windows 8 on it, my plan was to get the Acer w500 tablet and install windows 8 on it. I actually got rid of my android tablet so I can use windows 8, don't get me wrong android is nice on my phone but on a tablet its kind of useless.

There won't be Windows 8 for ARM at stores for buying, it will be installed in tablets only. Keep this in minde

Well, there is a good reason that you aren't using the Metro UI. It was designed specifically for tablets and it adds absolutely nothing to a regular PC. There are not too hard to see that anything except the most basic tasks requires more actions to complete compared to the regular desktop.
Microsoft needs to wake up and realize that they can't have the same UI for touch and mouse.

droidjosh said:
i've also been using win 8 on my notebook and my desktop since the first preview. haven't had any issues navigating. of course its a little confusing using it for the first time, but after about a day its simple.
Haven't gotten bored of it either. for being previews, they run pretty darn smooth.
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Ditto here. I have been using it as my daily OS since the consumer preview to give it a good test and have updated to the release preview. Once you get used to it it just comes naturally. I also have a Samsung Slate 7 I bought to try it on and am using it daily so I have been using both the touch and nontouch enabled. The skydrive integration and the synching of favorites etc is working fantastic.

I've been playing around with Win8 on my own desktop for a while. It's not too hard to get used to, but I've always had a question - what's the point?

Sir. Haxalot said:
Well, there is a good reason that you aren't using the Metro UI. It was designed specifically for tablets and it adds absolutely nothing to a regular PC. There are not too hard to see that anything except the most basic tasks requires more actions to complete compared to the regular desktop.
Microsoft needs to wake up and realize that they can't have the same UI for touch and mouse.
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Wrong, it brings realtime notifications to the start menu AND the desktop experience as well as reducing the time it takes to find applications in existing start menu program groups. But you strike me as one of those people who took a look at it and said "It's for tablets, will not use" and then never learned how to use it.
Not only that, but you need to wake up and realize that they are the developers, They CAN have the same UI for both mouse and touch and the current implementation as seen in Release Preview works very well for that purpose.
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I'm using it on my primary PC (dual screen, quad core, 4GB RAM, Geforce GTX460) on a daily basis. I use it with Photoshop/Illustrator/Chrome/Word/Wordpress, as well as various news readers.
It took a few hours to get through the learning curve (back during the Consumer Preview, not since Release Preview--that was easy to adapt to) but I'm confident that I'm actually MORE productive now, and am able to stay on top of things better thanks to deeply integrated features like the People Hub and so on.
Obviously, there's still some ground to cover--the OS is still essentially beta, after all--but all in all I believe it's the most impressive consumer OS I've ever used.
On the other side of things, I'm also beta testing the server in a simple file server role with a dozen users. Nobody's using it as a primary storage device yet, but I have a handful of titles setup to monitor services, alerts, etc, and I really like it. This is likely to make for a GREAT server OS once the major vendors apply themselves to creating Live Tiles that present pertinent information to an administrator upon login .
Microsoft is in a distant lead when it comes to advanced OS design compared to, for example, Apple
sinister1 said:
First off this is in no way trolling or bashing; but I have installed Windows 8 on both on one of my laptops and PC but I just noticed that I really don't use them that much. It seems that it just doesn't catch my attention and is too much of a bother to try to use the mouse and keyboard to navigate in between the Metro UI and desktop. Now I'm perrty sure that it is awesome on a touch device but I have not tried it yet.
How many people on here actually use Windows 8 on a non touch device on a daily basis? With out getting bored with it?
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The more I use it the more I can foresee MS sales decline. Yes I have gotten use to some features and so on but I honestly don't see this in a corporate or business environment. But to be fair I haven't tested it on a touch device but non the less this has no business on a non-touch device at all. I don't get it; MS sees the reviews that people post on line and also see that the sales of Windows Phone are moving at a snail's pace and they force a touch screen OS to non touch devices

I've been using windows 8 for some time now, on desktop with no touch (only mouse and keyboard) and i can safely say that everyone who says metro is bad for mouse is smoking good grass and i would like some too...
the extra gestures are only required when you want to shut down your PC only. That's it. the only instance in which you have to do more actions than you would on a regular windows 7.
other than that, the advantages are so blatant it's a wonder nobody mentions them
this is the fastest, most efficient operating system i have ever seen. Does windows 7 load for you in 4 seconds? because that's how long it takes for windows 8 to load on my desktop: 4 seconds. and it is not a state of the ark i7 machine, but an old generation core 2 duo.
The resource management is also oustanding. tasks are launched and executed almost like in a real time system (i sometimes forget windows 8 is not a real time system).
And if you get used to using your keyboard, you will save many of the "unnecessary" mouse gestures.
yes, it takes a few moments to get used to it, but once you've configured everything properly, windows 8 is miles ahead of any other system.