I'm picking up an Atrix today and was wondering if the bootloader comes unlocked now
Thanks
NO ...........
Ok thanks, I read some articles dated over the summer that said Motorola was going to have them unlocked with the gingerbread update, i guess not
Yes you can do it.. It does not come rooted or unlocked. there is alot of information here on the boards on how to do it and how not to Brick your phone.
Good Luck and have fun
Thanks, I think I have all the tools ready to go, root and unlock the BL are my first goals!
I currently use a Samsung phone that does not have a locked bootloader. I've read that Motorola is one of the manufacturers that likes to ship their phones with a lock bootloader, and this prevents people from flashing/hacking/rooting their phone.
How big of an issue is this? Are there reliable and straightforward way to bypass a locked bootloader? If I were to get a Droid 4 next year which comes with a locked bootloader, will I still be able to flash it with custom ROM and root it?
Hi,
There are way too many threads discussing this, both in the general section and individual motorola threads.
Please search
Just a quick question. I see quite a few posts asking rom devs to support locked bootloaders. My question is why would someone want a locked bootloader? I have had my x10 since they came available in usa and unlocked it the day I found out it can be unlocked. I am just trying to understand how a locked bootloader is fucntional in what we do. But I probably reflash my phone once or twice a week.
Just got this phone as a gift, and I love it.. but where is the community for this device? The development section is basically empty.
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neh4pres said:
Just got this phone as a gift, and I love it.. but where is the community for this device? The development section is basically empty.
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Moto Z Force (Droid) has a LOCKED BOOTLOADER. Can't be rooted. It's a Verizon phone. No dev work possible.
Whereas the Moto Z (unlocked edition) has bootloader unlock on request and there's tons of ROMs and kernels, etc for it. You got the wrong phone, IF you wanted dev stuff... You need a phone where the bootloader can be unlocked and the phone rooted. Some Verizon phones' bootloaders can be unlocked through Sunshine exploits, but not that many. You have to do research here on XDA before you get the phone.
Now some people may have this Droid Moto Z Force phone and LOVE it, but yeah the dev sections are basically empty. No ROMs, no kernels. And there won't be any until the bootloader is unlocked -- IF ever.
The 2015 Droid Turbo 2 (Verizon's Kinzie variant) is in the same condition -- bootloader locked down, no dev work, while the sibling 2015 Moto X Force (unlocked Kinzie) has ROMs, etc. They both share the same XDA forum, so the Droid Turbo 2 owners can only look enviously at the Moto X Force dev work.
Blame Verizon for locking down the bootloader!
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Moto Z Force (Droid) has a LOCKED BOOTLOADER. Can't be rooted. It's a Verizon phone. No dev work possible.
Whereas the Moto Z (unlocked edition) has bootloader unlock on request and there's tons of ROMs and kernels, etc for it. You got the wrong phone, IF you wanted dev stuff... You need a phone where the bootloader can be unlocked and the phone rooted. Some Verizon phones' bootloaders can be unlocked through Sunshine exploits, but not that many. You have to do research here on XDA before you get the phone.
Now some people may have this Droid Moto Z Force phone and LOVE it, but yeah the dev sections are basically empty. No ROMs, no kernels. And there won't be any until the bootloader is unlocked -- IF ever.
The 2015 Droid Turbo 2 (Verizon's Kinzie variant) is in the same condition -- bootloader locked down, no dev work, while the sibling 2015 Moto X Force (unlocked Kinzie) has ROMs, etc. They both share the same XDA forum, so the Droid Turbo 2 owners can only look enviously at the Moto X Force dev work.
Blame Verizon for locking down the bootloader!
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...which is a damn shame and craps right on the original intent of Android, back when amateur development was taken seriously and many mods that the folks here and other sites created were incorporated into official Android releases...
Z Force is a fine phone and if rootable would have an explosive Dev community. Really sucks....
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Moto Z Force (Droid) has a LOCKED BOOTLOADER. Can't be rooted. It's a Verizon phone. No dev work possible.
Whereas the Moto Z (unlocked edition) has bootloader unlock on request and there's tons of ROMs and kernels, etc for it. You got the wrong phone, IF you wanted dev stuff... You need a phone where the bootloader can be unlocked and the phone rooted. Some Verizon phones' bootloaders can be unlocked through Sunshine exploits, but not that many. You have to do research here on XDA before you get the phone.
Now some people may have this Droid Moto Z Force phone and LOVE it, but yeah the dev sections are basically empty. No ROMs, no kernels. And there won't be any until the bootloader is unlocked -- IF ever.
The 2015 Droid Turbo 2 (Verizon's Kinzie variant) is in the same condition -- bootloader locked down, no dev work, while the sibling 2015 Moto X Force (unlocked Kinzie) has ROMs, etc. They both share the same XDA forum, so the Droid Turbo 2 owners can only look enviously at the Moto X Force dev work.
Blame Verizon for locking down the bootloader!
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I won't like to think so. There are Samsung phones with locked bootloaders. But still get custom roms based off stock. With improvements and tweaks made on the rom. I think it's the popularity that matters. The more people use the device the more likely there is an exploit like the Samsung s7 and edge series. Where kernel exploits were used to obtain root.
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I won't like to think so. There are Samsung phones with locked bootloaders. But still get custom roms based off stock. With improvements and tweaks made on the rom. I think it's the popularity that matters. The more people use the device the more likely there is an exploit like the Samsung s7 and edge series. Where kernel exploits were used to obtain root.
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Motorola phones are different. You need to unlock the bootloader.
Trust me on this.
With LG G2 and LG G3, you could also root and install custom recovery and ROMs without bootloader unlock .
Motorola phones are different. Luckily, Motorola will unlock your bootloader on request -- unless it's a Verizon phone.
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Motorola phones are different. You need to unlock the bootloader.
Trust me on this.
With LG G2 and LG G3, you could also root and install custom recovery and ROMs without bootloader unlock .
Motorola phones are different. Luckily, Motorola will unlock your bootloader on request -- unless it's a Verizon phone.
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I'm holding my moto z Droid force now and "Allow bootloader unlock" is an option in the developer menu...
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I'm holding my moto z Droid force now and "Allow bootloader unlock" is an option in the developer menu... ]
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So what? That's been an "option" on everybody's Android phone since Lollipop. Verizon carrier demand to manufacturer overrides that consumer option. They demand their bootloaders remain locked down.
Toggle that switch all you want, it won't do any good. With a Motorola phone you still need a bootloader unlock code. This is from my guide on how to unlock Motorola bootloaders:
Section 1: UNLOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER
Before anything, go to the Motorola website and unlock your bootloader.
Unlocking the is FREE, via the Motorola website.
UNLOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
You release Motorola from any liability, get a code and unlock your bootloader.
If you get an error message at this step that your phone is not eligible, then you have typed in something wrong or you have a Verizon phone. Helps if you Google how to copy and paste from Windows command window. There's a LOT of alphanumeric characters you have to type. First time I tried to unlock my bootloader I mis-typed something. :crying: Copying and pasting from the Windows command window fixed that problem! :good:
You'll get an email with the bootloader unlock code. The email will also have a link back to the instructions. But the code is what's important.
You will receive this fairly instantly. If you don't get it, make sure you checkmarked you agree to all the conditions. Also check your spam folder.
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However, IF you go to that website with a Verizon phone, it will say you do not qualify. WHY? Verizon won't let Motorola give customers the unlock code. So, with Verizon Motorola phones you need someone like Sunshine team to find an exploit.
I got codes from Motorola for my phones because they are NOT Verizon branded Motorola phones.
This is why the NON-Verizon Moto Z has lots of development, but none of the Verizon Droid Z phones (Droid Z or Droid Z Force) have any development. Blame Verizon.
Go here and take a look:
Moto Z
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z
Unbranded Moto Z phone, not the Droid branded Z or Z Force. Lots of ROMs, kernels, etc.
You bought a Verizon phone. Yes, it's frustrating when you pay hundreds of dollars for a phone and the carrier or manufacturer still thinks they own your phone. So, I don't give carriers or manufacturers like that my money. I never buy a phone I can't root, install custom ROMs. And with Motorola phones that means you have to unlock the bootloader. So, that means no Verizon Motorola phones UNLESS you know there's an exploit available, like from Sunshine team.
Rumor is the 2017 Moto Z2 Force (successor the Z Force) will NOT be a Verizon exclusive. In which case, I'll wait to see if bootloader codes will be available from for either T-mobile branded phone or even "international". I have the Moto XT1225 which is the unbranded "international" version of the Droid Turbo XT1254, but has all the AT&T LTE bands. But there was also a U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 which was the exact clone of the Droid Turbo XT1254, sold by regional CDMA/LTE carriers in the U.S.A. and it has all the Verizon bands and has FREE bootloader unlock. You could stick in a Verizon sim card and it would run on Verizon just like a non-Verizon Nexus 6.
Before Sunshine found exploits for the Droid Turbo, Verizon users who wanted an unlocked bootloader went and bought the U.S. Moto XT1250 -- same FCC ID, same bands, exact same phone as the Droid Turbo XT1254, but with an easily unlocked bootloader with free code from Motorola. The Moto XT1250 was basically the "dev" version of the Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254.
Moto Z Force unlocked bootloader
Hello XDA experts (IMHO), I am new to this site as I just registered; however, I have read multiple threads and found the vast majority to be knowledgeable and definitely informative. Thank you for that.
I bought an unlocked Moto Z Force off of eBay in March of last year, and until the forced updates I really enjoyed using it. Then came the forced updates that I had no choice in even blocking the download since they have always happened in the background without any notification of the process requesting access or anything close. I really really hate that some hump hidden away in some stupid little cubicle is writing code to essentially hi-jack my phone. And this is coming from a used to be decent company.
Anyways, in the summer I was messing with the phone and kept hitting the boot unlocker button until finally it stayed on. It has been unlocked since, but unfortunately my home computer is dead until I replace the power supply so I haven't hooked up to a computer with the phone.
I did try Kingoroot but that was unsuccessful so I quit messing with it until last month I decided to see what, if any, info was to be had on rooting it. Nothing seems to have changed except when I read that no one appeared to have an unlocked Verizon Moto Z Force with an unlocked bootloader. I then thought that armed with what I was able to do that someone from this site would be able to run with it and push this into the box of done that.
I only probably know enough to screw up my phone but I was looking at using the fastboot and recovery tool areas as possible ins for breaking the wall that stupid a$$ Verizon builds.
Am I on the right track maybe? I'm sure that these areas & ideas have probably been looked at 6 ways from Sunday but just in case I wanted to throw the info in of what I had done & that it might help out somehow.
If someone is able to then get these Moto Z Force phones "fixed" I would really love to be able to follow the instructions and finish mine.
Again, thanks for all that has been done on everything else & I hope this helps.