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hey everyone , i am having a problem my first recharge session for the xperia when the batter was fully drained was about 9 hours? is this normal ? for the first couple of times , i am recharging my phone through the usb cable from my computer directly ?
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I've never charged mine through my computer, only synced. I will say it took very long to charge at first. I'd recommend using the wall charger and charging every night instead of letting it drain all the way.
Wall charger is the best choice, unless u have got a battery charger & patience to take off & put on the battery cover every time.
I doubt whether it is necessary to charge x1 every night?
I also find that using a wall charger gives a much quicker charge time and to my eyes a longer lasting charge... I only charge when it gets down to 20-40% so it could last as long as 4 days... (usually 2)
wallcharger takes about 2 hours till its full.
USB however takes far longer. not sure why but i guess the ma/h used for USB is probably far lower then a wallcharger
Yes, USB charging is slower than normal charging as the USB port can provide max 500 mAh, my old K800i on usb charging can arrive max 92% even after 6 hours connected, while on wall charging it is full in less than 2 hours.
And regarding this question, i have another question:
Will usb charging work with any usb wall charger? i leave the wall charger at home, and at work i use USB charging, but a co-worker has a motorola phone with a wall USB charging charger, can i use it safely on my Xperia?
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And regarding this question, i have another question:
Will usb charging work with any usb wall charger? i leave the wall charger at home, and at work i use USB charging, but a co-worker has a motorola phone with a wall USB charging charger, can i use it safely on my Xperia?
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Yes, if you check that Motorola output parameters are the same of our SE wall charger.
Thanks
Guys i did charge it from the wall charger and it took less then an hour to charge the remaining 50% which is great guessing so its going to take around 2 hours to full charge it from zero , , thanks for the help
I've got a split cable (two usb ports into one) that came with a portable USB HDD. It works faster when charging off USB.
also if you want faster charge time then make sure the X1 is switched off completely.
recharging ... Saving the battery
what i understand the the slower you charge the battery the longer the battery life ;it could stay with you for more then a year with good battery life
on the other hand quick charging the battery will decrease the overall age of battery you are going to change it with in a year or two
i am not sure of this info for cellphone batteries but 100% sure regarding the laptop lithium batteries
please correct me if i am wrong
mtaher said:
what i understand the the slower you charge the battery the longer the battery life ;it could stay with you for more then a year with good battery life
on the other hand quick charging the battery will decrease the overall age of battery you are going to change it with in a year or two
i am not sure of this info for cellphone batteries but 100% sure regarding the laptop lithium batteries
please correct me if i am wrong
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As far as I know, the asnwer is yes for the first part. The slower the charging time, the longer the battery will last (theorically).
But, the time horizon is not 1-2 years. It is actually longer than that, 2-3 years for cellphones and 4-5 for laptop (own an HP from June 2005, still getting 3h of battery life out of it!).
There are lots of conditions that affect the life of a battery, check out at http://www.batteryuniversity.com/ for more info (that's a real useful site, up to me!)
fards said:
I've got a split cable (two usb ports into one) that came with a portable USB HDD. It works faster when charging off USB.
also if you want faster charge time then make sure the X1 is switched off completely.
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Hmmm... great idea man... but I am wondering if it could affect the battery. Which is the total mah supplied?! is it less than the wall charger one? that info could definitively chamge my mind about the split cable
1) USB charge is way slower
2) Wall is about 2 -3 hrs
3) GSM plus average usage, 1.5 days of use
4) 3G plus average usage 1 days
what my laptop battery care program does to prolong live is that it maintains a max 80% charge. perhaps this is same for all battery?
[email protected] thanks for the update , tell me what your going to do .. fast charge or slow charge?
mtaher said:
what i understand the the slower you charge the battery the longer the battery life ;it could stay with you for more then a year with good battery life
on the other hand quick charging the battery will decrease the overall age of battery you are going to change it with in a year or two
i am not sure of this info for cellphone batteries but 100% sure regarding the laptop lithium batteries
please correct me if i am wrong
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Please consider using punctuation, as your text is completely unreadable.
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[email protected] thanks for the update , tell me what your going to do .. fast charge or slow charge?
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Sincerely, it doesn't matter for me. 4 year is way too long and I never had a phone for that period, so I really do not care about it. The only thing I pay attention is to always fully charge and discharge the battery, every time.
Consider that the first bound to a battery life is its recharge cycles. Probably 90% of batteries dies/loose power because of too many charge/discharge cycles, the 10% left for other reasons (fast charge, totally drained power, heat, etc.)
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Yes, USB charging is slower than normal charging as the USB port can provide max 500 mAh, my old K800i on usb charging can arrive max 92% even after 6 hours connected, while on wall charging it is full in less than 2 hours.
And regarding this question, i have another question:
Will usb charging work with any usb wall charger? i leave the wall charger at home, and at work i use USB charging, but a co-worker has a motorola phone with a wall USB charging charger, can i use it safely on my Xperia?
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Yes, I use my old Motorola V3i charger to charge the Xperia, no problems.
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As far as I know, the asnwer is yes for the first part. The slower the charging time, the longer the battery will last (theorically).
But, the time horizon is not 1-2 years. It is actually longer than that, 2-3 years for cellphones and 4-5 for laptop (own an HP from June 2005, still getting 3h of battery life out of it!).
There are lots of conditions that affect the life of a battery, check out at http://www.batteryuniversity.com/ for more info (that's a real useful site, up to me!)
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the website doesn't say much about Lithium-Polymer batteries as opposed to Lithium-Ion which is all over the site. Li-Poly is what Xperia is using. I think you shouldn't overheat the battery when charging because heat will drasticaly degrade the battery life.
Yeh
Yeh, as a note to some former replied.
Li-Po (Lithium Polymer) batteries need to be kept in check, overheating can make them dangerous and explosive as well as reducing their life cycle.
Which point you charge the battery from with Li-Po does not mattery as long as the correct "conditioning" cycles are completed when new.
Also, as a note, I have once or twice attempted to charge my Xperia from the USB port on my laptop(plugged in) over night, only to find the battery of the Xperia was totally dead the next morning.
The USB ports of my laptop provide 500mA (standard) and the charger for the Xperia is 700mA so not a significant difference, but I guess other things affect the the USB ports on laptop (including Windows 7 having the ability to disable US ports to "save power").
It most probably assume the "device" connected is wasting power and so disables it. Although we want it to charge. Same goes for Windows Vista. This option can be disabled though.
MrLeche said:
the website doesn't say much about Lithium-Polymer batteries as opposed to Lithium-Ion which is all over the site. Li-Poly is what Xperia is using. I think you shouldn't overheat the battery when charging because heat will drasticaly degrade the battery life.
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Yes, but wall charging while using connected wifi does heat the battery relatively quickly (my Polaris, Li ion, gets vaguely warm, not as obviously heated as the X1 battery)
I've tested this with a new replacement battery - careful overnight charging when new - and similar behaviour still results
This has convinced me that the X1 has a serious weakness, as charging while wifi connected is a long-standing work habit. If the wifi is connected without charging, a usable time of 2-3 hours is all you get (no good )
I purchased a cheap (.99 cent) USB data cable for my SGS off of eBay from Korea. It worked well, or so I assumed at first, charging my device and working fine with the outlet charge that came in my box as well as working for data transfer.
Originally my first charge of my SGS lasted a poor 12 hours. The second charge lasted a much better time. And the longest mine has ever gone without being plugged in is about 32 hours, this is with low use however. Maybe 5 minutes of talk time total, 100 sms sent and several web pages viewed on WiFi and 3G. This is much much better compared to my 3gs.
Anyways.. After about 4 days of the new cable I had noticed that my charge time was lasting significantly shorter amounts of time every day I used it. Each morning the phone would confirm fully charged and I would unplug it. It would usually end up dieing sometime before I went to bed. Basically it would only last 14 hours and this is with very minimal use. Mostly standby, in fact, probably about 12 hours of those 14 hours is standby.
So I switched back to my original cable that came in the box when I purchased my SGS and today the phone is holding a charge much better and still indicates full charge after 10 hours since I woke up this morning.
I guess what I am trying to say is that it seems (for whatever reason and if you know PLEASE enlighten me) that the after market cable was doing something strange. Even though it charged my device and the SGS indicated it was at 100% please unplug. It still didn't last as long as when I use the original cable. Anybody know why?
So I suggest steering away from cables that may not be official. Or at least the ones that cost less than a dollar XD.
i think the problem is with the battery and not the cable
the cable either works, or don't work, there is no in between.
I was reading a thread last night on XDA about cheap cables but i forget which one. Im sure it was in Galaxy Accessories though.
The guys there were having similar charging issues or it not even recognising the phone being connected. One of them checked the cable on a multimetre and found it was giving a lower voltage than the original (if i remember right it was about 0.2 volts) so maybe that's your cause?
You would think a cable is just a cable but it seems lower costs mean lower quality materials.
i was not talking about the current transfer,
i was talking about the full charge, and drainging quick, has no relation to the cheap cable
yes the cheap cable might be poor at charging the battery, but it doesn't affect how the battery discharges after it's full
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I guess what I am trying to say is that it seems (for whatever reason and if you know PLEASE enlighten me) that the after market cable was doing something strange. Even though it charged my device and the SGS indicated it was at 100% please unplug. It still didn't last as long as when I use the original cable. Anybody know why?
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He seems to be still using the same battery but has switched the cable and the problem has gone or at least improved.
I remember my old HTC Diamond, charged via USB (lower voltage) would last less than half the time on a supposedly 100% charge. A full charge on the mains socket (higher voltage) would bring the longer holding charge time back.
I guess we need an update from the OP as to whether changing only the cable 'did' fix it.
the point is i don't see any scientific reasonable logic behind it.
AFAIK that's not how the charged power inside a battery works.
Well I have read a bit more about charging from a USB port on the computer than charging from the wall charger.
Many people seem to experience shorter battery life when charging a device (specifically I read about the iPhone cause it was there) connected to a PC via USB. Usable battery time increased when charging via outlet charger.
I am sure there is a scientific explanation for this. Just because we don't know it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I am interested in this and am going to research it some more.
Perhaps some people should try charging via a PC and USB to see if their battery life diminishes more quickly.
i charge via the PC at work and home for my internal phone battery
the spares are charged separately with a stand alone charger
i see no difference in runtime between wall or PC charged batteries
i'm a heavy user i can drain the entire battery in 4 hours be it wall charged or PC charged
my average battery time when i don't go heavy on it, is 12 hours
on a normal day i need 1 battery pack for AM, and another 1 battery pack for PM
At first when I got my nexus 10, it was charging quite nice, overnight would charge from 30% to 100%, but recently it stopped doing so, for example tonight after 8 hours it got from 35% to 70%, all stock: same cable, same charger.
Also, sometimes I used to put it on charge while using it, like when watching video, and it used to charge even if slow, now when doing this it says charging but the battery level goes down....
can the stock charger or cable be damaged? why did it stop charging fast overtime?
I used the its usb cable and charger few times to charge my new OnePlus, which requires a high ampere charge, can this cause the charger to overwork and then damaging its power output?
I read about the pogo charger does the job better, but I also read about the 28/24 usb cables, and I guess that the stock cable is 28/28, they did it like this to sell pogo charger cables. but the main issue here is that with the same combination it was better a month ago....
I have multiple chargers around the house with various amperages that I use for all devices, except I do have a bit of fear using my oneplus chargers with others for your same reason
About a month ago we decided it was worth it to buy the pogo dock on eBay for our nexus ten so it can be used as a digital picture frame when not in use, great decision, it seems to charge faster than any of the other chargers and get to see pics of our newborn all day as well
Consider either this or buying a new cable/charger for much less money. Either way my best guess is this is what you need, but you can always try a factory reset or reflash stock to see if it is a software issue
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At first when I got my nexus 10, it was charging quite nice, overnight would charge from 30% to 100%, but recently it
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Mine had the exact same problem after about 15 months use. Combine the slow charging with the atrocious battery life and you're left with a barely usable tablet. I later bought the pogo cable and switched chargers to no avail. Then I just said screw this and sold it.
My nexus is 3 months old, so it can't suffer from battery wear down in such little time.
Will try resetting the whole thing and try again....
Hello,
I am using One Plus 2 for a few years already. Lately I started suffering because of battery drain and long time charging. Problem is quite serious because while charging and using phone battery % is getting down. It takes whole night to charge it to 100% and in the midday I have 20% left.
I tried to use different chargers and cables. Didn't help.
Today I changed battery to new one. Didn't help.
Wiped out unofficial rom, installed official stock one. No addtional apps installed. Didn't help.
I am charging it with charge monitor app and while on AC charging I get very unstable charging graph. I need to turn off screen and leave phone untouched to charge it.
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Where else to look for a reason?
Usually LTE connection drain the battery. Try disable it and try for few hours.
I tried to charge it with airplane mode. Didn't help neither.
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Did you resolve your issue? I have same situation but I think that happened after when I do update Oxygen, now charger my battery is really slow and drain battery really quick. I can just leave, not touched my OP2 for all day and the battery after 8hrs got 30%. I buy original battery and still nothing change for better.
Gimitrin said:
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Did you resolve your issue? I have same situation but I think that happened after when I do update Oxygen, now charger my battery is really slow and drain battery really quick. I can just leave, not touched my OP2 for all day and the battery after 8hrs got 30%. I buy original battery and still nothing change for better.
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Hi
Have you tried to change the charging cable. I had the same issue and changed the charging cable. It worked for me.
optimus858 said:
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Have you tried to change the charging cable. I had the same issue and changed the charging cable. It worked for me.
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Another problem is with a cable because original cables for OP2 can't buy anywhere right now, the company OnePlus has stopped production this cable for this device so I buy original cable Dash Charger from site oneplus.net
Three possibilities (at least):
* The charger is not working
* The cable is not working
* The battery is failing
Solutions for the first two are more obvious than the last one. Pick up a new or working used charger/cable. But the battery is a little dicier. And frankly, it is also more likely the cause for this than a bad cable or charger (esp. charger). But re the battery... No direct sales from Oneplus are available except via an official Oneplus repair job, which requires you sending your phone to them and them replacing the battery. Obnoxious, eh?!
The unofficial route? This is frowned on by many here, but not me. Buy a cheap ebay battery for the oneplus 2. Look for one that at least promises the battery's power matches the phone's specs. I bought one for $12 from an American seller (because I wanted a bit more accountability if it didn't work). They do work. They also take a while to start reporting their voltages and charges correctly, and must be charged / discharged completely a few times before things start getting accurate.
That's no official answer... just one guy's experience. Hope it helps.
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Just put in a brand new battery and the phone will not go into turbo charge. Best I can do on any charger is about 500mAmps. Battery will barely hold it's own when the display is on. Let me go through the specifics:
Battery was acting erratic (random shutdowns, short life) and was replaced with a labeled Motorola branded battery. I believe it was charging in turbo mode before replacing, but it was so erratic I can't say for absolute certain. No drama on the installation, it went very smooth.
Battery capacity is now great. The random reboots stopped.
Charging is very slow, less than .5amps. It says that it is charging off a USB port. It does not give the turbo charge message.
Tried four different quick chargers (2.0 and 3.0) and a few different cables. Also tired it on a 2amp USB charger. At least two cables were brand new. All the same.
Cleaned out the USB port on the phone. Thorough cleaning a couple of times, not much junk out came out. Also tried some alcohol to clean the contacts. The connection feels tight and has positive lock. No help from that.
Factory reset. No help.
It has had a couple full charge/full discharge cycles. No difference in charge rate.
I have a USB detector that I can plug into the charger and run the charge cable out of it to the phone. It shows 5.2volts and about .4 or .5amps. Doesn't show the high voltage charge (about 8volts if I remember).
One thing that is funny is the charge rate as reported from Ampere. It first reports 1-1.5 amps initially and then goes back down to .5 amps. I suspect it is Ampere acting funny, not the phone. The USB detector does not show the initial high current. There might be a clue in there somewhere.
The phone is running stock Nougat and is not rooted. I am beginning to think it may be a software issue.
Any ideas?
John
OldTacoman said:
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Just put in a brand new battery and the phone will not go into turbo charge. Best I can do on any charger is about 500mAmps. Battery will barely hold it's own when the display is on. Let me go through the specifics:
Battery was acting erratic (random shutdowns, short life) and was replaced with a labeled Motorola branded battery. I believe it was charging in turbo mode before replacing, but it was so erratic I can't say for absolute certain. No drama on the installation, it went very smooth.
Battery capacity is now great. The random reboots stopped.
Charging is very slow, less than .5amps. It says that it is charging off a USB port. It does not give the turbo charge message.
Tried four different quick chargers (2.0 and 3.0) and a few different cables. Also tired it on a 2amp USB charger. At least two cables were brand new. All the same.
Cleaned out the USB port on the phone. Thorough cleaning a couple of times, not much junk out came out. Also tried some alcohol to clean the contacts. The connection feels tight and has positive lock. No help from that.
Factory reset. No help.
It has had a couple full charge/full discharge cycles. No difference in charge rate.
I have a USB detector that I can plug into the charger and run the charge cable out of it to the phone. It shows 5.2volts and about .4 or .5amps. Doesn't show the high voltage charge (about 8volts if I remember).
One thing that is funny is the charge rate as reported from Ampere. It first reports 1-1.5 amps initially and then goes back down to .5 amps. I suspect it is Ampere acting funny, not the phone. The USB detector does not show the initial high current. There might be a clue in there somewhere.
The phone is running stock Nougat and is not rooted. I am beginning to think it may be a software issue.
Any ideas?
John
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It could be the battery. Buying batteries has seemed to be trial and error for this phone. Where did you buy the battery from?
I know that problem with batteries. It's like a 50/50 chance of getting a decent one. I seem to have found a pretty good one. It was off Amazon, but it was branded Motorola. It says so right on front, if that is worth anything. It charges (just very slowly) and has great life. The phone used to do random reboots on the old battery, that is cured. I am inclined to think it is not the battery. Is there some specific check that you know of that would rule it out?
Thanks for the idea.
John
Fit the old battery again, if it turbo charges then the problem is the new battery.
good idea.
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Fit the old battery again, if it turbo charges then the problem is the new battery.
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That was a good idea. I gave it try but it was still in the awful slow charge mode. But that old battery was junk, no life and random reboots. Based on the condition of the battery, that may not have been a great test I will just button it up one last time and recharge it every night. On the plus side: Life on the new battery is as good as when the phone was new. That is a very nice phone and I would buy another new one if they were available.
Thanks for the idea
John