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[Q] Should I flash Defy+ ROM on my Defy? Is it worth upgrading from CM7?

Okay so I have a Motorola Defy running on Nordic Froyo Kernel and with CM7.1 nightly 63 as the real system and CM9 111202 Nightly on dual boot (SD Card)
I've heard about the Defy+ ROMs such as MS2Ginger. Moreover, recently Epsylon3, the dev working on the ICS port upgraded to the GB sbf. So maybe the next CM9 builds will be running only on the new kernel.
MY QUESTION IS: Will I be able to revert back to stock Froyo safely after flashing the GB sbf? Will I be able to use all the ROMs working on stock Froyo like CM7.1 (which I can't live without) or MIUI? Is it worth upgrading to stock GB now or should I wait for a few weeks so that CM9 gets stable?
Thanks in advance!!
PS : I'm sorry for just another GB to Froyo thread but none of the others answered my question.........

swapnil360 said:
Okay so I have a Motorola Defy running on Nordic Froyo Kernel and with CM7.1 nightly 63 as the real system and CM9 111202 Nightly on dual boot (SD Card)
I've heard about the Defy+ ROMs such as MS2Ginger. Moreover, recently Epsylon3, the dev working on the ICS port upgraded to the GB sbf. So maybe the next CM9 builds will be running only on the new kernel.
MY QUESTION IS: Will I be able to revert back to stock Froyo safely after flashing the GB sbf? Will I be able to use all the ROMs working on stock Froyo like CM7.1 (which I can't live without) or MIUI? Is it worth upgrading to stock GB now or should I wait for a few weeks so that CM9 gets stable?
Thanks in advance!!
PS : I'm sorry for just another GB to Froyo thread but none of the others answered my question.........
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Recommended to install only till shadow_2.3.4-134_DFP-10
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root_toor said:
Recommended to install only till shadow_2.3.4-134_DFP-10
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CM7 is apparently custom GB ROM on Froyo kernels

You can move between GB kernel and froyo kernel, just make sure you flash the kernel zip file through custom recovery. That's how I keep moving so often between CM9+GB kernel and CM7.1+Froyo kernel.
Do NOT flash the GB full SBF through rsdlite, you'll loose downgradability.
Some users have reported that customer service said Defy+ will get ICS official update, if so, we Defy non-plus users can get that kernel too

CM 7.2 (Ginger kernel) on Defy with GreenBread

Hello. Can i use the CM7.2 rom on simple Defy with GreenBreadMod? With stock Defy+ gingerbread rom its working (camera, etc...).

XianHuen said:
Hello. Can i use the CM7.2 rom on simple Defy with GreenBreadMod? With stock Defy+ gingerbread rom its working (camera, etc...).
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What version are you use? i dont work with 2.3.6

122333 said:
What version are you use? i dont work with 2.3.6
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Im on 4.5.3-109-fixed (flashed it over CEE Froyo) with 4.5.1-134walterdefyplus + GreenBreadMod and everything fine and works. I want the CM 7.2 with gingerbread kernel and working camera (greenbreadmod). The CM 7.1 on froyo for normal Defy its ok, but i need the ginger kernel, because i think, its better.

[Q] How to know what kernel i have

I'd like to know how to check what kernel i have installed (GB or froyo kernel), independently from the ROM i have installed, is there any way?

may it help you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450026

So, if i didn't get it wrong... the regular defy only support the froyo kernel and the defy+ only the GB one??
or, i can flash a GB kernel on my defy (MB525)??

Hairo The Blue Mage said:
So, if i didn't get it wrong... the regular defy only support the froyo kernel and the defy+ only the GB one??
or, i can flash a GB kernel on my defy (MB525)??
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You can flash a GB kernel on Ur MB525 .. but GB kernel has some hardware constraints like in green lens MB525 camera doesn't work.. etc ..
So if ur's is a green lens MB525 don't flash GB kernel ..if not u can flash it..
as of now all stable ROMs like CM7 , Miui , CM9 Beta (Quarx builds) are froyo kernel based..

[Q] About Kernels and CM9

First of all, I'd like to thank all you guys for all great work here on XDA, thank you very much!!
I have a Motorola Defy (MB525) with Red Lens and although I've changed the ROM of my Defy many times, I'm still new and I have some questions:
The first ROM I've installed on my Defy, was CM7 (unofficial, ported from Quarx), then changed to MIUI, then came back to CM7 (official) and now, I'm using CM9 (24/Feb) from Epsylon3/Quarx (from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100 ) and this build is for Froyo Kernel, and, in this same thread, I've read that GB Kernel is better for CM9 and my Red Lens Defy...
My question is: can I flash CM9 for GB (with GB Kernel) and later return to CM9 for Froyo (and Froyo Kernel), or MIUI, or CM7 if I wanted to??
If I flash CM9 for GB (with GB Kernel), can I go back to stock if I need to??
Well, sorry for this noob questions and sorry for my bad english

well, my personal opinion is, that GB is always better for defy with red lens... only reason for froyo is the missing green lense support in gb, i think ...
i also think, that the kernel for these cm9 roms are flashed with an fixed sbf ... so it doesn't matter, what you have as stock system ...
that is no pro-answer, just a few thinks, i've read and hopefully understood ...
the whole romchange of defy is not easy to understand cause of that locked bootloader things and so on ... i also got a crazy problem with my defy+ as you can read in my thread ...
hopefully, we will get the answers we need to get our systems running as good as we like ...

DJ_Synergy said:
well, my personal opinion is, that GB is always better for defy with red lens... only reason for froyo is the missing green lense support in gb, i think ...
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Does that mean that those of with green lenses won't be able to upgrade to gb kernel if we want our cameras to work? (i mean by the time there's a cm9 stable)

i flashed cm9 feb. 29 release in my green lens defy.. and have camera preview with autofocus on it.. btw i flashed the cm7 kernel.. and i think cm7 kernel is froyo kernel.. cm9 kernel is gingerbread kernel.. anyone can elp me? how to move apps from phone to sd card?

I've found this:
fritolays said:
I packed the two different kernels into clockwork flashable packages.
1. Flash either a nightly or restore a nandroid.
2. Flash either CM7_Kernel-signed.zip or CM9_Kernel-signed.zip; depending on what you've installed.
3. Reboot.
CM7_Kernel-signed.zip
CM9_Kernel-signed.zip
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in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20148046&postcount=1624
that means that I can go to CM9 (with GB Kernel) and then, if I want/need to, go back to CM9 (with Froyo Kernel) or any ROM based on Froyo Kernel, right??

simonardejr said:
I've found this:
in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20148046&postcount=1624
that means that I can go to CM9 (with GB Kernel) and then, if I want/need to, go back to CM9 (with Froyo Kernel) or any ROM based on Froyo Kernel, right??
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You're right. I did this and works. Just flash the kernel based on the corresponding ROM and you're good to go.

[Q]Latest/Best Kernels for Froyo and Gingerbread

For the sake of updatedness, what are the best kernels for Froyo and Gingerbread?
Also, I flashed a GB kernel to try out a CM9 build. Now I want to install the official 7.2 RC. I need to flash a Froyo kernel again right?

There are no custom kernels for the defy as it has a locked bootloader, only the official signed motorola ones, the froyo which came with defy and gb which came with defy+.
For cm7 you need froyo kernel, just reflash it. Cm9 have 2 builds - one for froyo kernel and one for gb kernel. I think the green lense defys may only work with froyo kernel.
Sent from my MB526 using XDA

sim0t said:
There are no custom kernels for the defy as it has a locked bootloader, only the official signed motorola ones, the froyo which came with defy and gb which came with defy+.
For cm7 you need froyo kernel, just reflash it. Cm9 have 2 builds - one for froyo kernel and one for gb kernel. I think the green lense defys may only work with froyo kernel.
Sent from my MB526 using XDA
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What abt the DHT kernel from Walter. I think its not ripped from defy or defy+.
It is used in Motoginger roms

Hi, sorry for my first noob question ...
Quite the same question as the original :
I found here on the github (I can't post link) that 2.2.2-177 & 2.2.2-179 have a different Kernel hashes 2.6.32.9-ga28fcc4 or 2.6.32.9-gb08c3c8.
I thought the latest CM7.2 were containing the lastest kernel id 179.
When I look at mine I have 2.6.32.9-ga28fcc4, which seems to be 177 ...
I'm actually on cm7.2 20120509-NIGHTLY-jordan, from the official nightlies ...
here (on the dowload page from Epsylon3, can't post ...) i found the 179 kernel, would it be necessary to flash it in order to have a matching kernel with the lastest nightlies ?
Only talking of froyo kernels ...

sim0t said:
There are no custom kernels for the defy as it has a locked bootloader, only the official signed motorola ones, the froyo which came with defy and gb which came with defy+.
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So do I think. However some people are often saying that they flashed a cm9 or whatever kernel... what do they mean by this.
P.S.: There are some attempts to boot another kernel with the help of kexec/2ndboot, but currently only with minor succes afaik.