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shoud i buy a xoom?

hello xoom community. imma big android lover. ive had a sgs fascinate which bricked and now i have a htc desire. the android 3.0 has been calling my name and im extremely bad when i want something. i need to have it. as of this second, i have the money 4 the wifi version. my question is, is it worth 700 dollars canadian? ive never used a tablet b4 so its a new expierience 4 me all together. any advice would b awesom thx
edit: can the xoom run goldeneye on the n64oid? perfect dark? how does psx4droid run? basically, i know im going to get this if it can play these gaes at a good speed

I'd say wait for the eel pad transformer. better screen and working sd card slot. plus it's $100 cheaper for the 32 GB version. runs on tegra 2.

madsquabbles said:
I'd say wait for the eel pad
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Mmmmm. Eel pad.

madsquabbles said:
I'd say wait for the eel pad transformer. better screen and working sd card slot. plus it's $100 cheaper for the 32 GB version. runs on tegra 2.
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wil the sd card slot work in a later update? or is it permanently off?

Bauxite said:
Mmmmm. Eel pad.
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damn autocorrect...
and who knows when the sd card slot will work on the xoom. days... weeks... months...

LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
edit: can the xoom run goldeneye on the n64oid? perfect dark? how does psx4droid run? basically, i know im going to get this if it can play these gaes at a good speed
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It runs N64 well, but if you need to hold a button down for a while (like A in Mario Kart) it stops working after 15-20 seconds. Very frustrating.
Sent from my Captivate

MikeyMike01 said:
It runs N64 well, but if you need to hold a button down for a while (like A in Mario Kart) it stops working after 15-20 seconds. Very frustrating.
Sent from my Captivate
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wish i had known that 20 minutes ago b4 i bought 1 lol

There's also the Acer Iconia releasing on the 24th....pretty much the same specs as the xoom but it will be $450 and has brushed aluminum......yum.......

sr20seb said:
There's also the Acer Iconia releasing on the 24th....pretty much the same specs as the xoom but it will be $450 and has brushed aluminum......yum.......
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Yep. $450 for 16gb WiFi. Gonna be thicker and heavier though.

I don't know how much weight my opinion carries since I don't have a Xoom(yet) either, but so far I have for the most part have heard good things. So good in fact that I am leaning towards getting one next month.

Oct. 1 and still no info..

So its Oct. 1 and still not information yet on if and when the TF2 will be released. I guess I will be buying a TF1 and then maybe selling it later on to get a TF2.. I did find a Store in my town that has nothing but the B60's in stock, so that is great information for me.

whats the difference between the Bs i think mine is a B70 got it from amazon

blessedswine said:
whats the difference between the Bs i think mine is a B70 got it from amazon
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B60's are rootable, Some B70 with the serial number lower then B70KAS170XXX can be rooted anything above that, cant.

blessedswine said:
whats the difference between the Bs i think mine is a B70 got it from amazon
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B60 was the last batch that was guaranteed to be rootable. Some of the B70s were, but it's a lottery. B80's onwards are unrootable currently.
Anything B50+ the manufacturing issues of early units were long since sorted, so B60 is the sweet-spot if you wish....

But now, newegg has the 16gb with dock for only 399.. might take a chance of on the lottery with that deal. Man decisions, decisions... get a rootable B60 with no dock or take the chance of not getting a rootable one and getting a free dock.

i say pull the trigger..used mine foe about 1 month + now, haven't really seen a need to root it...i think u're good even if u get a non rootable one..

milleirish said:
So its Oct. 1 and still not information yet on if and when the TF2 will be released. I guess I will be buying a TF1 and then maybe selling it later on to get a TF2.. I did find a Store in my town that has nothing but the B60's in stock, so that is great information for me.
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Get it with the dock, they're ~$150 less than when I bought mine two months ago. You can basically consider it a free dock, at that price. You can use the keyboard with the TF2 when it comes out. Get used to it, love it, and maybe you won't need a TF2 (though Ice Cream Sandwich will be plenty tempting if the TF2 ships with it.)
I think my SN is like 10 numbers lower than the new bootloader cutoff, but I still haven't rooted. I haven't found any of the 3 main ROMs that would do enough above and beyond stock to make me want to.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium

milleirish said:
So its Oct. 1 and still not information yet on if and when the TF2 will be released.
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And here endeth the lesson. Don't believe anything you read on the internet...

milleirish said:
So its Oct. 1 and still not information yet on if and when the TF2 will be released. I guess I will be buying a TF1 and then maybe selling it later on to get a TF2.. I did find a Store in my town that has nothing but the B60's in stock, so that is great information for me.
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Why is this a new thread. There are several threads already open on this.

punman said:
Get it with the dock, they're ~$150 less than when I bought mine two months ago. You can basically consider it a free dock, at that price. You can use the keyboard with the TF2 when it comes out. Get used to it, love it, and maybe you won't need a TF2 (though Ice Cream Sandwich will be plenty tempting if the TF2 ships with it.)
I think my SN is like 10 numbers lower than the new bootloader cutoff, but I still haven't rooted. I haven't found any of the 3 main ROMs that would do enough above and beyond stock to make me want to.
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Well I have pulled the trigger from Newegg, but not been able to root is deal breaker for me since I can't update the kernel to gain access to CIFS, Cisco VPN Client or other kernel enhancement.

Buy it from best buy and get their buy back plan. So when tf2 comes you can exchange it, only downside is you will get 250 back...
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milleirish said:
So its Oct. 1 and still not information yet on if and when the TF2 will be released. I guess I will be buying a TF1 and then maybe selling it later on to get a TF2.. I did find a Store in my town that has nothing but the B60's in stock, so that is great information for me.
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I would wait till November or December. The t2, when it comes out will be a beast, but if cannot be rooted, I am not going to get it. There will be more tablet selections and cheaper prices..a few weeks waiting will save headaches and money later.

I'm planning on getting this http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...spx?path=79f8f4b50eae3ef241dcedc80361e5f6en02
How do I know it's rootable?

milleirish said:
So its Oct. 1 and still not information yet on if and when the TF2 will be released. I guess I will be buying a TF1 and then maybe selling it later on to get a TF2.. I did find a Store in my town that has nothing but the B60's in stock, so that is great information for me.
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I've been saying on here for months. I first heard about the transformer a year before asus debuted it. The rumor was asus was coming out with a tablet that also acts as a notebook. And it was coming out soon. That soon turned out to be a year.
I dont understand why people think the tf2 is just right around the corner. Nvidia said they were coming out with tegra 3 at end of october. Were going to believe asus engineers can incorporate the tegra 3 into their device and stamp out the bugs to make it usable in a couple days and ship in volume?
For those waiting for the tf2, keep waiting if you want. You are basing your belief on unconfirmed rumors. You also also believe in unconfirmed reports of aliens and big foot?

Where can I see if my new transformer is b60 or b70 or b80 ??
Tanks in advance

colossus_r said:
Where can I see if my new transformer is b60 or b70 or b80 ??
Tanks in advance
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I wonder if this has been asked and answered at least 500 times

thebadfrog said:
I wonder if this has been asked and answered at least 500 times
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Look at the sn.

GetPatriotized said:
I'm planning on getting this http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...spx?path=79f8f4b50eae3ef241dcedc80361e5f6en02
How do I know it's rootable?
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lol surely you jest?

punman said:
Get it with the dock, they're ~$150 less than when I bought mine two months ago. You can basically consider it a free dock, at that price. You can use the keyboard with the TF2 when it comes out. Get used to it, love it, and maybe you won't need a TF2 (though Ice Cream Sandwich will be plenty tempting if the TF2 ships with it.)
I think my SN is like 10 numbers lower than the new bootloader cutoff, but I still haven't rooted. I haven't found any of the 3 main ROMs that would do enough above and beyond stock to make me want to.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium
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I root mine to use Titanium Backup , Add Free, Voodoo sound and a app that creates a larger cache for the SD card. I can unroot to install a update and re-root in just a few min. using the Linux CD method. otherwise it's mostly stock until I want to do something more

uploder said:
lol surely you jest?
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jest? :S

Should I trade a Galaxy Tab 7 for a Xoom?

Someone is offering me to trade my 16GB Galaxy Tab 7 3G/Wifi + cash top of SGD$250
- 1 Year old. Warranty over.
- Physical appearance: 8/10 because of some small scratches on the side. Scratches seen on the screen are on the screen protector.
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his 32GB Xoom 3G/Wifi -
- 5 months old.
- 10/10 condition. Placed in otterbox defender case worth USD 90 and Japanese screen protector worth SGD$69
Opinions? Looking at the development of Xoom, it's not really that active huh. Guys I need some opinions Thanks.

The development of the Xoom isn't that active because the Xoom gets it's updates first, and the source for Honeycomb was never released making Cyanogen-esq projects impossible. Now that ICS's has been released, along with the source, I suspect this will change. But even so, the Xoom doesn't need a huge amount beyond rooting and custom kernels, both of which are active projects.
Regarding the deal your associate wishes to make, it's a damn good one. He's after your decrepit Tab 7 in return for his Xoom, which is a far more capable device. So the only issue is if your cool with going through with a deal which will leave the other party at a disadvantage.

Uh... Do it!
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kay_kiat88 said:
Someone is offering me to trade my 16GB Galaxy Tab 7 3G/Wifi + cash top of SGD$250
- 1 Year old. Warranty over.
- Physical appearance: 8/10 because of some small scratches on the side. Scratches seen on the screen are on the screen protector.
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his 32GB Xoom 3G/Wifi -
- 5 months old.
- 10/10 condition. Placed in otterbox defender case worth USD 90 and Japanese screen protector worth SGD$69
Opinions? Looking at the development of Xoom, it's not really that active huh. Guys I need some opinions Thanks.
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That's an amazing deal...take it. There's great, stable roms for the Xoom Honeycomb OS and Android 4/Ice Cream Sandwich is in active development and is already providing a perfectly suitable daily driver (see my signature). Only camera drivers are missing--need binaries from Motorola.

Hell yeah!
I'm a galaxy tab owner aswell, and would swap the tab for the xoom anyday.
Why does he want the tab? It's a downgrade for him!
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hmmm don't know maybe he's looking for portability?

kay_kiat88 said:
hmmm don't know maybe he's looking for portability?
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Well just hurry up and swap before he sees this thread!
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I agree it is a very good deal.

burden010 said:
Well just hurry up and swap before he sees this thread!
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+1 Definately.

Definitely the Xoom. Also, whats this bs about development for the Xoom not being very active? Someone hasn't checked the Developers subforum!

Elysian893 said:
Definitely the Xoom. Also, whats this bs about development for the Xoom not being very active? Someone hasn't checked the Developers subforum!
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Lol. I did check. Just seems to me like the choices of roms for the xoom seems limited, well.. as compared to sgt7's.
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Xoom is definitely better than a Samsung Galaxy Tab, especially considering the hideous abomination that is Touchwiz. However, I think you could find a better deal. I don't know about where you live but where I am a quick search on craigslist yielded several LNIB Xooms for less than $300.
You should be able to sell your Galaxy Tab, and then take the $250 that you were going to pay ontop of it for the trade and buy a brand new Xoom. and still have some money left over.
If you are in an area where it's not easy to find high end electronics for sale on the private market then yeah by all means go ahead with the trade...maybe try to get him down to $200 cash ontop of your Galaxy Tab.
Good luck...and BTW we have a nearly fully functional AOSP ICS rom available to us, what more could you want from our devs?

kay_kiat88 said:
Lol. I did check. Just seems to me like the choices of roms for the xoom seems limited, well.. as compared to sgt7's.
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I think the reason there are few Honeycomb roms (though the ones available are very good and stable) is because Honeycomb source code was never released. It's at the end stage. But ICS is going strong!

Thanks for all the input guys. You guys are right. Having one good and stable rom is better than having many average roms. Thanks for your time guys.
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kay_kiat88 said:
Lol. I did check. Just seems to me like the choices of roms for the xoom seems limited, well.. as compared to sgt7's.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App
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Yeah, just checked, development is far ahead here then at the SGT forum!
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okantomi said:
...Honeycomb source code was never released.
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I don't know why Google made the decision to withhold the HC source code. I think they should have released it and let the developers decide on what, if anything, to do with it. At this point, there's no point in working with HC since ICS is out there but still....
I'm not a dev myself. Just stating my thoughts on it.
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kay_kiat88 said:
Thanks for all the input guys. You guys are right. Having one good and stable rom is better than having many average roms. Thanks for your time guys.
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I hope that your next post here on XDA is made from or at least near your Xoom! As everyone else said, pull the trigger on that trade and don't look back unless you already have...

jaekidd1012 said:
I don't know why Google made the decision to withhold the HC source code. I think they should have released it and let the developers decide on what, if anything, to do with it. At this point, there's no point in working with HC since ICS is out there but still....
I'm not a dev myself. Just stating my thoughts on it.
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I hope that your next post here on XDA is made from or at least near your Xoom! As everyone else said, pull the trigger on that trade and don't look back unless you already have...
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They decided not to release it, because they knew devs will try to port it to smartphones and it wouldnt work well as its primarily designed for tablets.
Then ICS was to unify them therefore ICS is open source.
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olyloh6696 said:
They decided not to release it, because they knew devs will try to port it to smartphones and it wouldnt work well as its primarily designed for tablets.
Then ICS was to unify them therefore ICS is open source.
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I don't know. I like HC but still feel that Google should have handled it better.

jaekidd1012 said:
I don't know. I like HC but still feel that Google should have handled it better.
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Agreed We payed the money for it and you dont release the source code like with ALL the other versions!?!?

Asus has some coherence problems with information management. XDA has coherent whine.

From twitter this time: https://twitter.com/#!/ASUS/status/164522714994974721
Hopefully they have made up their mind this time. Someone start the two-week countdown
Asus seems to have a problem deciding on when to release the real release-date and for how long it should continue to release prank-dates. The real release of the real release-date for the real release of ICS may or may not be right around the courner.
In the meantime, we could replace most of the world's nuclear powerstations with the whine contained in this very XDA thread. The power of both should more or less even out.
Good times.

Thanks for the update. I was waiting for an updated official source.
Too bad they can't just name a date. End all speculation. 'Mid february' is close but I want it less vague

........10 char

Ok i dont know why that pic came out so horribly pixelated very sorry anyway i got a timer widget set for 2weeks 12hrs
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My Transformer is super with 3.2.1. I'm wondering if ICS will bring some "extra super" stuff besides the interface?!?!

h.robert said:
My Transformer is super with 3.2.1. I'm wondering if ICS will bring some "extra super" stuff besides the interface?!?!
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Speed is one
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h.robert said:
My Transformer is super with 3.2.1. I'm wondering if ICS will bring some "extra super" stuff besides the interface?!?!
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I'm using a GNex since its release and I can tell you this: you'll be stunned. Not so much from the interface (which is very close to HC) but from the overall smoothness. I eagerly wanna try paulburtons ICS port, but I gave my TF away to a friend for 2 weeks

Yeah, I have ICS on my Nexus S, and I'm super excited to get it on my TF101. Most of the basic interface ideas come from Honeycomb, but very refined and improved. And yes, much better speed.

Just got ics alpha on my epic 4g.
After a day of playing with it, if anyone asks 'is it worth it to wait' you don't deserve it.
Wow. All i can say, my phone is giving my tf a run for its money now..

finally....
Someone knows if it will be worldwide or just like america/asia?

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finally....
Someone knows if it will be worldwide or just like america/asia?
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I think they'll roll out the update region by region to reduce server load (as they did with all the previous updates). But it should release globally within a few days.

You all know that mid Feb is going to be Valentines day. So better cancel those dates you got...and be prepared to wine and dine your TF101 instead that night!
Swyped from my Nexus One

SiNJiN76 said:
You all know that mid Feb is going to be Valentines day. So better cancel those dates you got...and be prepared to wine and dine your TF101 instead that night!
Swyped from my Nexus One
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Actually, showing off your newly ICS-enabled tablet to your SO sounds like a great date to me!

Triplanetary said:
Actually, showing off your newly ICS-enabled tablet to your SO sounds like a great date to me!
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Hahaha...either way...you'll be left alone with your TF...que (girl walking out the door).

We are slowly getting there. Can't wait to see the revolver version.

I just hope the TF101 ICS upgrade does not have all of the issues that the TF201 upgrade. Don't mean to be a Debbie Downer or anything. I just ordered my TF101 from Amazon last night after struggling with the 101 versus 201 decision. In the end it came down to the issue of the Wifi possible not working.

SiNJiN76 said:
Hahaha...either way...you'll be left alone with your TF...que (girl walking out the door).
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Ha ha, awesome.

xda-soar said:
I just hope the TF101 ICS upgrade does not have all of the issues that the TF201 upgrade. Don't mean to be a Debbie Downer or anything. I just ordered my TF101 from Amazon last night after struggling with the 101 versus 201 decision. In the end it came down to the issue of the Wifi possible not working.
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You know most of the problems have now been resolved? All the other noise is just fluff created by companies that are yet to launch a quad-core tablet...

asder00 said:
finally....
Someone knows if it will be worldwide or just like america/asia?
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If you're rooted it won't matter. Our fine devs will make it work for all.

Their facebook page just announced that it'll be "sometime this month"...
http://www.facebook.com/ASUS

Tab Pro 8.4 is $369.99 at Best Buy

I think it started yesterday March 24 Sunday. It's still on sale today. A good deal.

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I think it started yesterday March 24 Sunday. It's still on sale today. A good deal.
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Of course it would go on sale 1 week after purchasing 2 of them from Best Buy... lovely.

I don't care how much it cost, i'm completely in love with my black 8.4.... It's not perfect but it's as close as it needs to be for me. Samsung +1 just learn to price things sensibly, I got mine for £260 and that is about spot on.
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Okay i do care how much it costs!! But I still love it
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Of course it would go on sale 1 week after purchasing 2 of them from Best Buy... lovely.
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It doesn't matter as you are covered by their price protection policy. Just bring a receipt to their store and they will credit you the price difference.

I got my price adjustment. So glad that I have the 45 day return policy with best buy.
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I got my price adjustment. So glad that I have the 45 day return policy with best buy.
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45 days now? Guess they learned better from the old days of harassing customers

45 days if one is an Elite Rewards member for which you have to spend bucks over a specific time period. Otherwise it is 15 days.

I took advantage of this sale as well. Walked in and bought this tablet on a whim. I've been waiting for the right tablet to come out, and the Tab Pro 8.4 fulfills every need spectacularly. Gorgeous display, tremendous hardware specs, and MicroSD? Sign me up. I couldn't be more pleased. Not until I get rid of TouchWiz for CM11, at least!
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45 days if one is an Elite Rewards member for which you have to spend bucks over a specific time period. Otherwise it is 15 days.
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Correct
I'm elite
But anyways, I got my black 8.4 today and I am just amazed.
This is the best tablet Samsung has ever made. PERIOD!

scrosler said:
Correct
I'm elite
But anyways, I got my black 8.4 today and I am just amazed.
This is the best tablet Samsung has ever made. PERIOD!
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Your Elite HAAAAA! The storys

hey scrosler i know you made a base rom because you didn't have the tablet but as a favor. I have used your cleanrom on most every device i had. Maybe plans can change now

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hey scrosler i know you made a base rom because you didn't have the tablet but as a favor. I have used your cleanrom on most every device i had. Maybe plans can change now
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CleanRom might be the only reason I would void my warranty. That would be amazing.
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chelper said:
CleanRom might be the only reason I would void my warranty. That would be amazing.
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hey scrosler i know you made a base rom because you didn't have the tablet but as a favor. I have used your cleanrom on most every device i had. Maybe plans can change now
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CleanROM will happen... Just got a lot going on (as always) but you can count on CleanROM for this tablet! That is a fact!
This is the only Tab that could pull me from Nexus 7 2013. The screen is just SICK!

best buy had the samsung book case for free a couple weeks ago so i got the price match. the next week they did $30 off and matched that also. i did very well. i have the elite membership so the 45 days helps. i was pleasantly surprised they did both. i did tell cs up front i already received the free case. they tried the $30 anyway and it worked.

I wish I knew about this tablet a few weeks ago when they were giving away the cover. Finally got fed up with my Nexus 7 (love the tablet, hate Asus) & picked one of these up & installed CleanROM the same night. Love this thing so far. Laggy as hell with stock firmware & TouchWiz but it runs awesome with CleanROM & Smart Launcher. Just realized CleanROM discontinued development which makes me sad but I have high hopes for the other developers who are releasing ROM's for this tablet.

It's now 349.99 at bestbuy!!

price break
n0kia916 said:
It's now 349.99 at bestbuy!!
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wtf i just got mine friday and i paid 369.99 time to make a trip to bb to get my money difference back
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I wish I knew about this tablet a few weeks ago when they were giving away the cover. Finally got fed up with my Nexus 7 (love the tablet, hate Asus) & picked one of these up & installed CleanROM the same night. Love this thing so far. Laggy as hell with stock firmware & TouchWiz but it runs awesome with CleanROM & Smart Launcher. Just realized CleanROM discontinued development which makes me sad but I have high hopes for the other developers who are releasing ROM's for this tablet.
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yes its soo much better on the cleanrom.. im looking forwards to new roms... maybe someone will release one with a better launcher from the start

"$347.99 - $349.99 & FREE Shipping" On Amazon.
On Amazon+tax free for me. I need a new tablet in 8" so bad, but don't want to rush, will wait for the Galaxy Tab S AMOLED 8" and/or the Nexus 8 to make final pick.
Tempting price as hell, lol!