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Hi all!
I apologise if already discussed, but can't find anything after searching within xda-app and google.
I am very happy with my SGS2 in general and consider it to be the best phone so far on the market (maybe apart from sgs2 hd), and therefore expect it's performance to be superior to most phones/pda's. I was watching a youtube clip on iPod Touch 4 the other day which I normally do on my Galaxy, and was so impressed with the sharpness and vividity that I decided to compare thse two side by side. And what a disappointment! Although the Galaxy offers more saturated colours and higher contrast due to OLED's blacks, the sharpness was nowhere near iPods Retina. And personally for me it completely ruins the whole visual experience.
Don't get me wrong, I was aware of the lower resolution (not helped by bigger screen size) before even purchasing SGS2. But I guess this poor youtube experience further highlighted it. I do realize it's probably due to some limitations within the YT app not allowing high enough resolution, and the might be a solution to overcome it that I'm not aware of. By the way I used the stock YT app asa well as the one called RollTube that allows you to download videos. Connection is WiFi 12mbps and videos whatched are HD quality.
Am I the only one bothered by the slightly lower resolution of the SGS2's display? I don't know whether it's over 300ppi but I can clearly tell the difference in sharpness in side by side comparison to Retina looking at the same image. Please let me know what you think folks, and if you know how to fix the YouTube problem that'd be fantastic!
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i thought the same as you...i thought my retina display was ten times better than the Galaxy s2 one...but after spending a few months with the the phone i would not change it for the world....i was playing the other day with my friends iphone 4 and il be honest my one is better....youtube videos mine are pretty clear but probably due to the high resolution on the iphone it will loook sharper...but everyone to their own tastes i say
Iphone has higher ppi than in sgs2 which i think is the cause..
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Yea, i got this same problem, and posted in many forums about it, but obviously no one care about YT?!... The problem is not related to higher resolution on ipod/iphone retina. The same video, downloaded to the phone from Tubemate with highest res is amazing. And on HTC Sensation the things looks awesome too! So my gues is that the youtube app(SGS2), does not play videos in HQ with the highest posible resolution. And for me, for some reason, the playback itself is sometimes choppy, like not enough buffering or something?!!...This choppiness is common for me on every rom i've tried after 2.3.3, no matter custom or stock! The question is why nobody talk about that roblem? I got answers that there is no problem with playback from any forum i search. Are all those people blind, or they don't watch hq videos?
The choppines might be due to the network speed. The playback for me is very smooth.
I am pretty sure the low res is the YT app limitation. A full HD video file when downloaded to pc is around 50-100MB, whereas downloaded to the handset the same video is only 10-15MB. Obviously it is a compressed file with lower resolution. Same applies for viewing.
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ephraim033 said:
Iphone has higher ppi than in sgs2 which i think is the cause..
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Obviously it is. But noone seem to be bothered, perhaps because not much can be done other than changing handset.
But the Youtube problem is software related and can be overcome.
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The choppines might be due to the network speed. The playback for me is very smooth.
I am pretty sure the low res is the YT app limitation. A full HD video file when downloaded to pc is around 50-100MB, whereas downloaded to the handset the same video is only 10-15MB. Obviously it is a compressed file with lower resolution. Same applies for viewing.
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No man, my files are just about 50-150MB when downloaded on the phone, and they are with stunning quality!And i use same WiFi network as on my PC, so there is no way that be the problem.Besides choppiness is present only in 2.3.4 or higher, not 2.3.3? Obviously this is some kind of limitation in the app, but why just on sgs2, not others? As i said, on Sensation, the problem doesn't exists? On IOS too? Did Google knows that this device is capable of more that they think? This problem drives me crazy since day 1, and shouldn't be ignored! 600$ on the phone and no quality Youtubes? WTF!?!
Actually, you know what? I've just managed to download a proper HD file using the app you mentioned (Tubemate) and despite the bigger screen size it wasn't easy yo spot the difference in the resolution of SGS2 vs Retina. Samsung have done a good job by adding some subpicsels to make up for low ppi. It's the icons where you still can spot the difference relatively easily.
If our app developers could make one that would allow an HD YouTube playback AND the download option in the same app I'm sure people would be willing to pay for it!
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Hi all!
I apologise if already discussed, but can't find anything after searching within xda-app and google.
I am very happy with my SGS2 in general and consider it to be the best phone so far on the market (maybe apart from sgs2 hd), and therefore expect it's performance to be superior to most phones/pda's. I was watching a youtube clip on iPod Touch 4 the other day which I normally do on my Galaxy, and was so impressed with the sharpness and vividity that I decided to compare thse two side by side. And what a disappointment! Although the Galaxy offers more saturated colours and higher contrast due to OLED's blacks, the sharpness was nowhere near iPods Retina. And personally for me it completely ruins the whole visual experience.
Don't get me wrong, I was aware of the lower resolution (not helped by bigger screen size) before even purchasing SGS2. But I guess this poor youtube experience further highlighted it. I do realize it's probably due to some limitations within the YT app not allowing high enough resolution, and the might be a solution to overcome it that I'm not aware of. By the way I used the stock YT app asa well as the one called RollTube that allows you to download videos. Connection is WiFi 12mbps and videos whatched are HD quality.
Am I the only one bothered by the slightly lower resolution of the SGS2's display? I don't know whether it's over 300ppi but I can clearly tell the difference in sharpness in side by side comparison to Retina looking at the same image. Please let me know what you think folks, and if you know how to fix the YouTube problem that'd be fantastic!
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Hi, where can i get this rolltube app from? I googled it and nothing comes up its also not in the market, id love to record videos for my daughter, thanks.
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But you cant watch YouTube videos on iPhone
It's spelled Rolle Tube and I think I gound it on the XDA forum.
Try Tubemate it's on the market and allows you to choose different resolutions invluding HD to download.
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jonny68 said:
But you cant watch YouTube videos on iPhone
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Jonny, I'm pretty sure you can
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Does the ipod app let you view youtube videos on hd?
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Jonny, I'm pretty sure you can
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my mate has an iPhone4 and he cant watch YouTube videos.
I wish they wouldnt allow apple to use youtube - its a google service!
Want youtube, get android...
Puzzles me why google wouldnt play this card, apple would if switched around.
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iphone has youtube app build in out of the box, and it plays perfect.
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Does the ipod app let you view youtube videos on hd?
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Yes, the quality is very high.
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I've finaly found what causing the choppiness. I flashed Siyah kernel, and used smartassv2 governor. What a surprise for me was to find out that playback was fine. The problem obviously was in the default cpu ondemand governor. In other words, the cpu scalling was somehow wrong?!... Unfortunately, the smartass governor, was no good to me for games, very poor frame rates.
Is this normal? It goes down to maybe 15FPS whether recording video or taking a picture, and that's reflected in the playback of videos so it's not just a preview thing. Then when I focus on something relatively bright like my computer screen, it goes back up to 60/30FPS.
Check Android Development Section. This issue has been solved long back.
Camera mods don't seem to fix anything.
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TheNetwork said:
Camera mods don't seem to fix anything.
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Disable thermal throttling in the hidden menu will solve the camera lag issue
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I don't see how this is a thermal issue. The reason why the framerate drops is because LG over-utilizes the optical image stabilization, and sets the shutter speed too low, meaning it takes forever to snap one picture and each frame of video takes forever, so the fps drops and everything smears and blurs in indoor and low light. The flip side is the image will be bright with less noise, IF you are a human tripod and nothing in your scene moves, which is not true 99% of the time. I just use my iPad to take indoor shots now around the house. It's instant, and it has noise, but no more smearing and weird glowing light and light trails. LG still hasn't fixed this issue with their first OIS device. Setting ISO to something high just makes the image dark as hell, since it seems to turn off the OIS completely and the shutter speed can't be changed.
Okay, but try disabling thermal throttling. It does help.
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anyone else try disabling thermal throttling after reading above? was there a noticeable improvement?
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anyone else try disabling thermal throttling after reading above? was there a noticeable improvement?
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anyone else try disabling thermal throttling after reading above? was there a noticeable improvement?
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Someone now the Hz rate of the display samsung galaxy s7 edge
Most likely 60hz. Otherwise I'm sure we would've heard of it by now. A minimum of 90 would be nice for VR, but otherwise it isn't justifiable on a phone in this day and age. At least not with the "vox populi".
i would be already happy about 60fps films and videos
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i would be already happy about 60fps films and videos
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This is about screen refresh rate, not FPS in videos.
Dame. I was hope for like 100+ . VR headset going to be bad.
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I'm pretty sure I heard carmack say (At least about the Note4 at the time) that in gearvr mode it DOES bump the display up to ~90hz.
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This is about screen refresh rate, not FPS in videos.
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But screen refresh rate isn't useful when input material hasn't even got enough frames And the menus wont be fluent too because almost all animations still stutter
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But screen refresh rate isn't useful when input material hasn't even got enough frames And the menus wont be fluent too because almost all animations still stutter
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Screen refresh rate effects the entire UI, gaming, etc.
open this site on your browser "www.displayhz.com".It will show the refesh rate.
It's 60hz! but I want a petition for 80hz! trust me even the UI feels much better c: Specially on phones since there's scrolling and etc. I have a 144hz monitor and I can't stand my 60hz one next to it! even when browsing the web c:
But *ehm* *ehm* samsung should first make 60hz work first.... Cause I feel like all animations are 30fps c:
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Most likely 60hz. Otherwise I'm sure we would've heard of it by now. A minimum of 90 would be nice for VR, but otherwise it isn't justifiable on a phone in this day and age. At least not with the "vox populi".
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Didn't take long though did it lol. February 2016 you wrote that now we have Razor Phone with 120hz display.
it's 59 hz
Can it switch to 90Hz for VR? Would be nice to trigger this for Standard UI.
The LG V60 ThinQ has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
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Very clear. The resolution is lower than my V30, I think, but it's not noticeable to me.
I honestly don't notice the lower resolution and because of that always had my previous phones set to 1080p to save battery.
Auto brightness has been a problem though, in low light the screen throttles back to 1% far too aggressively and 1% is too dim even in a pitch black room.
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The larger screen size and lower resolution combine for a noticeably lower DPI count, but I happen to think that higher (than 1080p) resolutions on (relatively) smaller phone displays are mostly a waste of battery life.
YMMV, but in my experience, there comes a point where the human eye can only resolve so much and the bump in the resolution of small screen displays just becomes overkill. I'll take battery life over resolution and even refresh rate any day, though I imagine higher resolution displays with higher refresh rates will only become more efficient over time, and I'll likely change my tune eventually.
I went from the V30+ to the V60 at the beginning of this month, and I feel like the new phone is a substantial upgrade over the older one in just about all categories that matter. And that's even considering that the former was rooted and the latter can't be!
The display is crisp enough, though clearly not cutting edge. Colors look at least as good as those of the V30. Viewing angles are fantastic without any noticeable (to me) color shift. It's probably the best we could have expected knowing that the display is relatively modest compared to this phone's 20202 (and some 2019) peers. And if you're fine with that, this shouldn't stop you from considering the phone. If, however, you DO want higher resolutions and higher refresh rates, you already know this phone's not for you and that you've got multiple options.
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Viewing angles are fantastic without any noticeable (to me) color shift.
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I'm seeing very drastic color shift when viewing at about 45°, more noticeable on white screens. It's a greenish yellowish shift.
Otherwise I agree with the rest of your post. 1080p is plenty resolution and I'm fine with 60Hz refresh.
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I'm seeing very drastic color shift when viewing at about 45°, more noticeable on white screens. It's a greenish yellowish shift.
Otherwise I agree with the rest of your post. 1080p is plenty resolution and I'm fine with 60Hz refresh.
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Are there display variances across production runs, or something? Because I can't seem to reproduce this fault.
I'm not TERRIBLY sensitive to such things, but from what you say, it sounds like it should be blatantly obvious to the eyes.
And I don't suffer from any kind of color blindness that could possibly impact me.
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Are there display variances across production runs, or something? Because I can't seem to reproduce this fault.
I'm not TERRIBLY sensitive to such things, but from what you say, it sounds like it should be blatantly obvious to the eyes.
And I don't suffer from any kind of color blindness that could possibly impact me.
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I haven't seen anyone else complain of this, so not site if it's an issue with mine specifically or what. Here's a short video I made that hopefully demonstrates the color shift.
https://youtu.be/naGHasaIjp0
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I haven't seen anyone else complain of this, so not site if it's an issue with mine specifically or what. Here's a short video I made that hopefully demonstrates the color shift.
https://youtu.be/naGHasaIjp0
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Huh. How did you get a plain white background to show up like that? (I suppose I can Google one up).
I'd like to test my phone out and see if I can get similar results.
It's a little hard to see in a YT video, but I definitely noticed SOME shift on your screen that I don't think I've ever seen on mine.
I imagine the effect is even more noticeable in real life, with the phone right in front of you.
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Huh. How did you get a plain white background to show up like that? (I suppose I can Google one up).
I'd like to test my phone out and see if I can get similar results.
It's a little hard to see in a YT video, but I definitely noticed SOME shift on your screen that I don't think I've ever seen on mine.
I imagine the effect is even more noticeable in real life, with the phone right in front of you.
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I use this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iudesk.android.photo.editor
It's a photo editing app, but you can start a new image from scratch and select a background color. I set it to pure white, then zoomed in on it to fill the screen. It's definitely easier to see in person. I tried using by wife's Note 9 for the video, but I couldn't select a better refresh rate on it to prevent the banding.
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I use this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iudesk.android.photo.editor
It's a photo editing app, but you can start a new image from scratch and select a background color. I set it to pure white, then zoomed in on it to fill the screen. It's definitely easier to see in person. I tried using by wife's Note 9 for the video, but I couldn't select a better refresh rate on it to prevent the banding.
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I tried it out, and while I did notice a dimming or darkening of the white background at extreme tilts, I figure that's normal.
Doesn't quite look like what your YT video shows, but I'm not sure if that's down to the difference between watching a YT video of something and watching it yourself directly.
I've had the V30 and now this and I'm as happy with the screen on this one as I was with the V30. I couldn't care about the refresh rate. It's not like I'm watching a 60" screen. Overall it's a very good screen.
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I'm seeing very drastic color shift when viewing at about 45°, more noticeable on white screens. It's a greenish yellowish shift.
Otherwise I agree with the rest of your post. 1080p is plenty resolution and I'm fine with 60Hz refresh.
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I pissed that it's 1080P, however, people who say a 90+ refresh rate is noticeable is just experiencing placebo.
The human eye will never notice that.
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BROKEN1981 said:
I pissed that it's 1080P, however, people who say a 90+ refresh rate is noticeable is just experiencing placebo.
The human eye will never notice that.
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I've had higher resolution screens, and I can tell no difference between them and 1080p. Even 720p is hard to notice a difference.
When it comes to refresh rates, most people see a noticeable difference between 60Hz and 90Hz. My last phone was selectable between those two and 120Hz, and I couldn't tell a difference between 90Hz and 120Hz.
I can see the difference in resolution between the V30 and V60, it's just that 1080p on a phone doesn't bother me.
It falls in my "good enough" range. These aren't 55+ inch television displays, after all.
I also can definitely see the difference between a 60 Hz refresh rate vs a 90 Hz or 120 Hz refresh display.
my problem is with notifications in the top pull down... its virtually useless in landscape mode...
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very laggy
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very laggy
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Yeah, me too. I'm having a lot of lag while multitasking (i.e. browsing in chrome when facebook and telegram in background)
When i close all tasks in recent screeen, lag is gone.
For me it Is perfectly fine, it lags here and there but overall it is buttery smooth.
Perfectly smooth. You know you have to select 144Hz mode to reduce lag, right? If you select 60Hz, it will lag heavily...
I don't experience any lag and I have it set to 60.
Hi all, I don't see lag as such but when scrolling on text it seems as if the text blurs and greys out until you stop and then it becomes the normal black again. It's really annoying when trying to scroll and read at any sort of speed. Anyone else had this issue /fixed it? I've tried pretty much every setting now and nothing really seems to help
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Hi all, I don't see lag as such but when scrolling on text it seems as if the text blurs and greys out until you stop and then it becomes the normal black again. It's really annoying when trying to scroll and read at any sort of speed. Anyone else had this issue /fixed it? I've tried pretty much every setting now and nothing really seems to help
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I was having it and also a yellow tint on the screen that was due to this
https://forum.xda-developers.c...ost.php?p=75939435&postcount=6
After applying the commands in the post it has improved a LOT. Even the scrolling. Some blurriness is normal when scrolling but for me it was doing weird things like text getting thinner and color bleeding out of the text. After applying the fix it doesn't happen anymore.
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getaceres said:
I was having it and also a yellow tint on the screen that was due to this
https://forum.xda-developers.c...ost.php?p=75939435&postcount=6
After applying the commands in the post it has improved a LOT. Even the scrolling. Some blurriness is normal when scrolling but for me it was doing weird things like text getting thinner and color bleeding out of the text. After applying the fix it doesn't happen anymore.
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Sorry. It's https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...type-issue-t3764161/post75939435#post75939435
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Kart0 said:
Hi all, I don't see lag as such but when scrolling on text it seems as if the text blurs and greys out until you stop and then it becomes the normal black again. It's really annoying when trying to scroll and read at any sort of speed. Anyone else had this issue /fixed it? I've tried pretty much every setting now and nothing really seems to help
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Hi, I'm having the same blur and color bleed from letters when scrolling text plus the screen has a really noticeable yellow tint. I have tried the commands in the link posted by getaceres but they do nothing in my unit. The only way to remove the yellow tint and have white backgrounds is to choose a heavily blue tinted color temperature but then other colors suffers...but this doesn't improve the motion blur problem. Also I'm suffering heavy eye strain after a few minutes using the phone and I don't know why since this phone supossely uses a high frequency PWM to control the brightness.. I think I'm gonna try to get a refund
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New base app, with 60fps working, i have ti tune photos