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Hey Guys,
I posted this in the Kaiser thread. It works brilliantly on my Ameo too.
Here's the first post from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332324
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I’ve found a mint piece of software that no Kaiser owner should be without.
It comes with a trial period and u should check it out.
I was looking for some software that would help secure my phone and came across this. http://www.wimp-software.co.uk)
It’s supposedly designed to help you find your phone (yeh right, I aint gonna lose my £500 phone) but me and my mate have had a **** load of fun with it.
It’s pretty cool.
If you read the instructions, you can basically text the phone, but the other person doesn’t get the text message. The software grabs this coded text message and sends you back the gps position of the phone. It also gives you a link to google maps which is great if you’ve got Opera installed on your phone. (Don’t try PIE, it doesn’t work)
I gotta say, I’ve seen a lot of cool software around, but this one is SO cool. I only wish my girlfriend had a Kaiser. I could have so much fun with this.
The only thing I would add to the software though, is to know I was being WIMPED. Maybe a little SMS noise, or the icon changed or something, but I do suppose that it was written for phone theft. I haven’t tried it yet, but it also claims that if you change the SIM card in the phone it’ll SMS you with the number of the new SIM card.
this is a great find. thanks
Yes, this is a fantastic idea. However, the implication on our privacy is something to think about very seriously. Yes, it does protect our phone from theft and lost.
Can it be uninstalled or removed by a hard reset.?
Yes, it can be uninstalled, and yes it will be removed by a hard reset.
HOWEVER, pop it into your External Rom and the above two things become insignificant.
That's very true.
or cook it into a rom, doesnt help if they re-flash though...
Mobile Justice
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mjustice
Does the same, is freeware, works without problems on My athena WITHOUT bottom bar at 128 DPI (WINP shows no ICON)
The easiest way could be to cook it into a ROM and put the config file into an unlocked EXTERNAL ROM.
This is needed because a config file is requested, so, even if you cook mobile justice into the rom, you can't cook the config file (it needs your password, your SIM number and your phone number to report at..)
Then you can config your phone and even in case of an hard reset, without the thieft knowledge of the SW, it will restart and it reads the config file into the external ROM
Midget_1990 said:
or cook it into a rom, doesnt help if they re-flash though...
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We would have to assume that 99.9% of the guy having our phones does not know anything about flashing. This is a reasonable assumption I think.
Having even 80% chances of getting back a lost phone is already not bad.
eaglesteve said:
We would have to assume that 99.9% of the guy having our phones does not know anything about flashing. This is a reasonable assumption I think.
Having even 80% chances of getting back a lost phone is already not bad.
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Agree with this. Even having the config file on the MicroDrive might work, if this could be built into the ROM to look there by default. Don't know if that's possible. Yes, you could erase the Microdrive but this would take more research than the usual thief might be willing to make...
WIMP says it will send a Google Maps link, will Mobile Justice do that? Seems like MJ is actually more configurable.
wgary said:
Agree with this. Even having the config file on the MicroDrive might work, if this could be built into the ROM to look there by default. Don't know if that's possible. Yes, you could erase the Microdrive but this would take more research than the usual thief might be willing to make...
WIMP says it will send a Google Maps link, will Mobile Justice do that? Seems like MJ is actually more configurable.
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MJ send GPS info in some formats, and have NO ICON on home screen. And a guy having in his hands a phone like this the first thing he search on google is HOW TO HARD RESET THE DEVICE Without a config file in ROM (on on microdrive I agree, but when you hard reset the ATHENA he asks "do you want to format the microdrive?" Having a stolen one the answer will be always YES!
Moreover is FREE, so I think no problems, asking to author, to put it into the ROM and to modify the registry key for config file to have it on external rom. The problem is.. could we have a PK3.0 with External Rom unocked as default?
sergiopi said:
MJ send GPS info in some formats, and have NO ICON on home screen. And a guy having in his hands a phone like the first thing he search on google is HOW TO HARD RESET THE DEVICE Without a config file in ROM (on on microdrive I agree, but when you hard reset the ATHENA he asks "do you want to format the microdrive?" Having a stolen one the answer will be always YES!
Moreover is FREE, so I think no problems, asking to author, to put it into the ROM and to modify the registry key for config file to have it on external rom. The problem is.. could we have a PK3.0 with External Rom unocked as default?
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I don't recall being asked about reformatting the MicroDrive on hard reset... But having it in external rom would certainly be a viable approach. This would be a nice feature for PK3.0
Has anyone got MobileJustice working??
I can send a message but the GPS feature doesn't work. Anyone??
I tried mobileJustice and it didnt work for me either
wgary said:
I can send a message but the GPS feature doesn't work. Anyone??
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So... I also tried WIMP and no love there, either. Even "heated up" GPS first. Thoughts, anyone?
wgary said:
So... I also tried WIMP and no love there, either. Even "heated up" GPS first. Thoughts, anyone?
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WIMP worked for me second time out - had to increase the GPS timeout from 3 mins to 10 (I haven't yet tried any intermediate settings).
apd said:
WIMP worked for me second time out - had to increase the GPS timeout from 3 mins to 10 (I haven't yet tried any intermediate settings).
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What settings did you use? I have x7500... Thanks!
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What settings did you use? I have x7500... Thanks!
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COM4, 38400, GPS TImeout 10, Max Satellites 6
The only way to works well it's integrating it in the rom, cause if its stolen the first thing that can do is change the rom
New Version on their website.
V1.2 includes various stealth options.
Wouldn't it be great if we could tell the program to draw the thiefs attention (eg an alarm) and when the person reacts to this alarm have it make a photograph with the front camera, which could be send through mms or e-mail... Then you would know who to look for when you arrive at the GPS coordinates with your baseball bat...
The key can be used multiple times, so it would be nice if some people are willing to share. I can't get a key at the moment because the lines are closed but I can't wait to try some stuff out. I would really appreciate it if some one can send me one in a private message.
+1
any generous souls reading this?
i thought there was limit on the number of times the key could be used?
HTC-clown said:
The key can be used multiple times, so it would be nice if some people are willing to share. I can't get a key at the moment because the lines are closed but I can't wait to try some stuff out. I would really appreciate it if some one can send me one in a private message.
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Which country you're from?
from what I've heard the key can be used 3 times, do It seems like no one wants to share their key. I thought better of this community
I'm just giving you this as a warning, I got the activation code about one hour ago by calling MS customer support in US, after I activated with the code I could login with my Live ID but then I realized that the softwares I installed using XAP like HTC HUB, YouTube, Flashlight, ... were not working anymore and it gave me an error like this app has been provoked by MS please uninstall it, so don't bother getting the activation code.
You won't be able to download app from market place after activation and I personally think that they're marking us out by giving out the activation code so easilly over the phone!
EDIT : First I had to change the name of the device from LEO70 to HD7 and then activate wp7 by the code, sooooo it was my mistake and now everything just works fine including the marketplace but I had to uninstall and reinstall the provoked apps.
mosbarzi said:
I'm just giving you this as a warning, I got the activation code about one hour ago by calling MS customer support in US, after I activated with the code I could login with my Live ID but then I realized that the softwares I installed using XAP like HTC HUB, YouTube, Flashlight, ... were not working anymore and it gave me an error like this app has been provoked by MS please uninstall it, so don't bother getting the activation code.
You won't be able to download app from market place after activation and I personally think that they're marking us out by giving out the activation code so easilly over the phone!
EDIT : First I had to change the name of the device from LEO70 to HD7 and then activate wp7 by the code, sooooo it was my mistake and now everything just works fine including the marketplace but I had to uninstall and reinstall the provoked apps.
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h?ow did you change the name of the device?
Just follow the guide for activating live on WP7 Rom...and your device name will change itself(well for me it did so I assume it will for all) and then call MS and get the activation code.
hd2 wp7 name change
fabio__sousa said:
h?ow did you change the name of the device?
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one way to change the name is to sync it with the zune pc app and then go to sync settings and then chang ethe name from there
AZNSNSAZN said:
one way to change the name is to sync it with the zune pc app and then go to sync settings and then chang ethe name from there
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That just changes the name.
You need to change the Model name and you can't just do that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912218
follow the instructions well and it'll change it to HD7
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from what I've heard the key can be used 3 times, do It seems like no one wants to share their key. I thought better of this community
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You thought better of this community? First the key is supposedly tied to your Live ID, so thats a no go there. Also, 3 times is a very small amount, if something goes wrong with my phone and I need to re-activate it once or twice after the first, then I sure as hell want to. If you want a key so bad get one your self like everyone else, or go buy a real certified Windows Phone 7 device. Besides, I can almost guarantee the first or second OTA update will most certainly kill this exploit, even if the HD2 isn't able to receive it.
RadiantSkies said:
You thought better of this community? First the key is supposedly tied to your Live ID, so thats a no go there. Also, 3 times is a very small amount, if something goes wrong with my phone and I need to re-activate it once or twice after the first, then I sure as hell want to. If you want a key so bad get one your self like everyone else, or go buy a real certified Windows Phone 7 device. Besides, I can almost guarantee the first or second OTA update will most certainly kill this exploit, even if the HD2 isn't able to receive it.
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Totally agree!!! Do the work yourselves....
It took me a 5 minute phone call to get an activation code from Microsoft. No questions, no hassles. MS can't just track you down via e-mail or your Live ID. There are Data Protection Laws.
Microsoft only go after the 'big fish'
Don't worry. Just do it and enjoy Cotulla and DFT's awesome port!!!!
A middle finger to the people who said 'it will never happen'
Ha ha ha....................
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You thought better of this community? First the key is supposedly tied to your Live ID, so thats a no go there. Also, 3 times is a very small amount, if something goes wrong with my phone and I need to re-activate it once or twice after the first, then I sure as hell want to. If you want a key so bad get one your self like everyone else, or go buy a real certified Windows Phone 7 device. Besides, I can almost guarantee the first or second OTA update will most certainly kill this exploit, even if the HD2 isn't able to receive it.
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Very well put.
Got sick of all these people pming me and creating posts/topics begging for keys.
I got my activation code a couple minutes ago and decided to swap out my 2gb sd card for a 16gb one. After I popped it in, I had to setup my phone again, which I figured would happen, but then it said something about low storage, so I figured I needed to reflash the rom so WP7 would partition the new sd card in whatever manor it does.
My question is, now that I have an activation code, do I need to run Chevron and unlock the phone again or can I just put the activation code in and start downloading apps? My only concern is I've now used my activation code twice, so I don't want to hit the limit without doing this all correctly :/
AFAIK, it associates your IMEI with your Live account, so it should just work..
I find it hard to believe that the activation code will stop working if you try to use it again with the same live account.
I did reflashm, and activation code worked no problem
RickAstley said:
AFAIK, it associates your IMEI with your Live account, so it should just work..
I find it hard to believe that the activation code will stop working if you try to use it again with the same live account.
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Some mentioned it in a thread at one point, but I've read that people have used their code 3 or even 5 times, so I may just be overly paranoid about it haha.
Laynee1 said:
I did reflashm, and activation code worked no problem
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Just tried it and it works fine! Thanks so much man
One last question: Since I put my new sd card in before reflashing, did that mess up how WP7 partitions it when I eventually did reflash? Or was WP7 not recognizing the new sd card anyway since it was put in after the initial flash, causing WP7 to not see it, hence the "low storage" message I ended up getting?
I have used it at least 5 times over. I doubt you will have any issues. Its just the code associated to your account. They dont monitor that, its just a key for service.
Improve said:
I have used it at least 5 times over. I doubt you will have any issues. Its just the code associated to your account. They dont monitor that, its just a key for service.
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I agree.. i think it's linked to your Live ID.. So when you sell the phone, the buyer should get a new key from MS for his Live ID and you can use the same key for your new phone. Correct me if am wrong.
21031980 said:
I agree.. i think it's linked to your Live ID.. So when you sell the phone, the buyer should get a new key from MS for his Live ID and you can use the same key for your new phone. Correct me if am wrong.
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Ooo, that's pretty awesome, though I doubt I'll ever sell my HD2, this guy is a beast haha.
Oooone last question and sorry that it's slightly off topic: I'm trying to download stuff from the Marketplace, but I get this message "we can't get this info check back in a little while". Is this something that will work in a few minutes, or is there something I need to do, like change the reg or something?
can u guys tell me how can we talk with MS service? Cause I fone them already, and they ask me alot of informations: home, fone, IMEI ..... but i m not sure we can use HD2's IMEI or not, cause I told them I use HD7 2nd. So dont have active code T_T
Some1 plz tell me what exactly I have to tell them to get the code.
Thank you
APJG said:
Ooo, that's pretty awesome, though I doubt I'll ever sell my HD2, this guy is a beast haha.
Oooone last question and sorry that it's slightly off topic: I'm trying to download stuff from the Marketplace, but I get this message "we can't get this info check back in a little while". Is this something that will work in a few minutes, or is there something I need to do, like change the reg or something?
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You need to do the registry hack so your phone is recognized as a HD7 t9292
the support guy told me to place the code at a safe place because i can use the code again if i need after a phone reset or something else
so i think there is no limit
APJG said:
Ooo, that's pretty awesome, though I doubt I'll ever sell my HD2, this guy is a beast haha.
Oooone last question and sorry that it's slightly off topic: I'm trying to download stuff from the Marketplace, but I get this message "we can't get this info check back in a little while". Is this something that will work in a few minutes, or is there something I need to do, like change the reg or something?
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you have to do nothing...just wait...the marketplace has at the moment some problems
-> http://wmpoweruser.com/zune-services-offline-now-microsoft-working-on-it/
Windows Phone 7 Market problem
i have flashed wp7 and have activation code; but i cant download any files from market,
"There is a problem completing your request.Try again later.
Error code:c101a420
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Arturo You wont have any problems getting your apps back. Just browse to them in the Marketplace and re-install. That feature seemed to be working even while attempting to download new apps returned c101a420 error code.
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...7/thread/a20fe082-cf95-4c5a-9bd0-f87637339194
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can u guys tell me how can we talk with MS service? Cause I fone them already, and they ask me alot of informations: home, fone, IMEI ..... but i m not sure we can use HD2's IMEI or not, cause I told them I use HD7 2nd. So dont have active code T_T
Some1 plz tell me what exactly I have to tell them to get the code.
Thank you
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It may depend on who you talk to. I called after I ran Chevron, so in the settings in my phone it said "HD7", though I'm not 100% sure if that makes a difference.
I called, they asked for me first name, then last name, then phone number, and then if I have ever called MS before. They asked what the problem was, I said I'm trying to add my @live email and go to the Marketplace, but it says I need an activation code and I don't know what that is. The woman asked if I was using WP7 and I said yes. She said something along the lines of "Ohhh, ok, that's why you need the code." She said it would take a minute to generate one for me, so I waited a bit and she asked what brand my phone was. I said HD7 and she seemed confused, so I then said HTC HD7 and she understood that. A couple minutes later she read the code to me so I could write it down, then I read it back to her to double check and that was it!
I've read about other people having to give numbers from the back of the phone or other specific details, but I didn't have to do any of that for whatever reason
thinhletien said:
can u guys tell me how can we talk with MS service? Cause I fone them already, and they ask me alot of informations: home, fone, IMEI ..... but i m not sure we can use HD2's IMEI or not, cause I told them I use HD7 2nd. So dont have active code T_T
Some1 plz tell me what exactly I have to tell them to get the code.
Thank you
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someone told them the imei of the desire hd...just try it
or you phone them several times till someone dont want to know this information
mattfmartin said:
You need to do the registry hack so your phone is recognized as a HD7 t9292
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0711 said:
you have to do nothing...just wait...the marketplace has at the moment some problems
-> http://wmpoweruser.com/zune-services-offline-now-microsoft-working-on-it/
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I figured I'd have to do that reg hack. I may wait a bit though just to see if it ends up working anyway for whatever reason.
Thanks so much guys!
kendimce said:
i have flashed wp7 and have activation code; but i cant download any files from market,
"There is a problem completing your request.Try again later.
Error code:c101a420
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same thing
0711 said:
you have to do nothing...just wait...the marketplace has at the moment some problems
-> http://wmpoweruser.com/zune-services-offline-now-microsoft-working-on-it/
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APJG said:
I figured I'd have to do that reg hack. I may wait a bit though just to see if it ends up working anyway for whatever reason.
Thanks so much guys!
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You do have to hack the registry so your phone appears as a HD7... A lot of apps won't download until you do that. There's directions all over to do that. There shouldn't be any wait time after getting your code. If your phone doesn't appear as a HD7 when you look at the info on your phone, you will get that message when trying to download apps.
seems live id can't be deleted
zarathustrax said:
You do have to hack the registry so your phone appears as a HD7... A lot of apps won't download until you do that. There's directions all over to do that. There shouldn't be any wait time after getting your code. If your phone doesn't appear as a HD7 when you look at the info on your phone, you will get that message when trying to download apps.
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Yep, you're right! Just did the reg hack and everything downloads fine, thanks!
Hi all,
I would like to know what will happen to my live account if i change roms(android - wp7)? i would need to call microsoft again or would i just use the key that they already gave me?
thanks!
nope. just save your code and use it again. I switched and came back and it works
thats why M$ told us to keep it somewhere safe
than what is the story about the all "3 times"
urban legend?
"3 times"? I think you mean you can link your activation code to three different live accounts.
it's cool
All i can say from personal experience is that i wiped my phone (Task29) 2 times & when re-installing WP7, i could re-activate normally without any problems using the same key i had from the phone call to Microsoft.
thanks
and what about jailbreaking the device, i already did it about 15 times and after a hour or two it locked again
any advice?
Does MS has a chace to recognice, that we havn't a "real" HD7?
I mean could they see, that the HD7 with Live ID xy is a fake one?
How many times can you use the same activation?
I've used mine twice and I want to play on WP7 again, but I doubt I'd keep it for long but I want to know if the code can expire? If so then I'd probably just wait for a Mango update.
Thanks!
Nilesh1 said:
How many times can you use the same activation?
I've used mine twice and I want to play on WP7 again, but I doubt I'd keep it for long but I want to know if the code can expire? If so then I'd probably just wait for a Mango update.
Thanks!
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Forever I have used mine over 20+ times changing to diff roms etc.
FPM
is there a way to get ur activation code from the hd2 i did it while i was on the phone to m$ never wrote it down ?
tonybangbang said:
is there a way to get ur activation code from the hd2 i did it while i was on the phone to m$ never wrote it down ?
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You don't really need an activation code. 'Cause theoroticly WP7 is never released for HD2. I even got an code just by mailing the helpdesk, didn't even call them.
If you mean the activation code for WP6.5, Don't really think it has one. Just go to the HTC site, install the HD2 WP6.5 rom which can be found somewhere under the topic HD2.
Otherwise, call Microsoft and supply them with your S/D number. Mostly to be found on the back of the box, otherwise behind the battery socket.
Take out the battery and read it out
i think he has used the activation code for windows phone 7 by typing it in the phone when asked and didn't note it somewhere else. so he wants to know if he can read it out of the already activated hd2 running wp7 to use it on another rom again....
have the same question here could i read out the used activation code from my hd2 to install new rom ??
Me too, I wrote my code down and somehow lost it
I have asked this question before but no one answered.
It must be somewhere on the phone but it may be encrypted like it is on Windows
Think I will try ringing them again and asking if they can give me my code as I have lost it.
If you lost your activation code for WP7, then you cannot retrieve it anymore.
It is encrypted somewhere in the phone.
It is like a password, when you lose them you are ****ed but they are somewhere in the sites core but you can't get to them.
I recommend calling Microsoft again, mailing or even open a chatbox with an microsoft employee.
And wright it down this time
Yea, I chatted with MS after I reflashed and hadn't written down the code, and they simply gave me the same one and asked that I'd write this one down and save it in case I needed it again.