File Sharing sites going forward - Droid Incredible General

Hey everyone,
The recent events with MegaUpload have resulted in a variety of file sharing sites discontinuing their services. I'm posting this thread as I read a Lifehacker article today which explicitly states sites that have begun shuttering their services. I'm just passing info you all may find resourceful. Here is a link to the article:
http://lifehacker.com/5878480/the-state-of-filesharing-websites

Yeah not surprising. Still hundreds of others to choose from, but it's a bad sign when sites are doing this. I like uploading to 10+ sources then another copy on my trusty HD. The sad thing is this is done with our current laws, think about what could be done if a new law passes that doesn't require sites to be on trial. Internet destroyed.

Not surprising at all, except the shock I experienced when visiting their site. Wasn't expecting them to just disappear.
Everyone knows about Dropbox I guess, but one media sharing site I have always enjoyed is Mediafire. The one drawback is the max filesize is 200MB but it's proven itself useful to me several times. Just thought I would mention something nice that wasn't talked about in that article.

It seems like the strategy is to shutter these services and then eliminate bittorrent so that most pirates' plan b is non-existant

DustinBooyah said:
It seems like the strategy is to shutter these services and then eliminate bittorrent so that most pirates' plan b is non-existant
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There's so many other ways to pirate too that most people don't even know about

I'm sure there are plenty of alternatives, power to the user and whatnot. I was more so surprised at how several other sites immediately slowed or shut down once MegaUpload was taken down. I'm all for removal of sites that intentionally host pirated movies/music but it takes on another dimension when people with legitimate files have no access to them. Again, that's why you save your files in various locations.

POQbum said:
The sad thing is this is done with our current laws, think about what could be done if a new law passes that doesn't require sites to be on trial. Internet destroyed.
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this... people need to realize what can happen if these new laws pass.

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Important privacy information!!!!!

Everyone go to spokeo.com and get yourself removed from a very intrusive collection of your e-activities and info... peep it out it is crazy.... remove yourself by going to privacy on bottom right corner of your corresponding listing!!!!!!! not kidding look for yourself!!!!!!!
hmm... creepy
i didn't have much info available, but i deleted my listings anyway. thanks for the heads up
I didn't show up at all.
Holy crap ive got two listings there. It knows my full name, my address, my parents name. This is **** its stolen identity paradise.
Fear the beard...
This has what to do with the Vibrant?
what the hell, it found 89 conversations i had in MSN LIVE on there.... WHAT THE ****. how do i remove this ****?
By the time you put your name and phone number in there if they didn't have you to begin with they do now I was not found on it at all but ya never know
There are several similar sites on the net, such as Zaba. All the info is collected from public record searches or culled from posts to sites accessible via web bots. sometimes the info can be wildly wrong (like it shows my son is 30 years older than me - pretty sure that's wrong - unless he's got a time machine).
Think about what Google knows about you.....
WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.........Resistance is Futile YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED !!!!
People every thing you EVER put on the net is open game....... every time you sign up , buy, put an ad in Craigslist,,,,,, or ANYTHING... it is forever........and the algorithms can cross verify who you are........... so there is no anonymous anymore get used to it ..........And that is why you do put lame **** on the web it can come back to haunt you
I'm such an optimist aren't I ? just another Dale Carnegie
epakrat75 said:
This has what to do with the Vibrant?
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Agreed...
http://urbanlegends.about.com/b/2010/04/07/spokeo-com-scam.htm
Spokeo owes its continued popularity, great SEO ranking, and quite possibly the collection of your basic information (aka your search input) to the paranoid masses. Even this well-intentioned albeit misplaced thread on XDA promotes and sends more people to them. Who's to say that the very act of looking yourself up or giving them the details to be removed doesn't actually send that information to their partner sites.
I recommend the Mods delete these thread.
That was my exact thought. Even if I did have information there... Well it's likely somewhere else anyway.

Just to let everyone something to think about...

Read this link. Read it carefully. It's not just about Google being able to run whatever code they like on your devices, it's about Google DOING it, remotely, without any user intervention/confirmation.
What's next ? Let me throw some wild and far fetched guesses...
* Applanet like apps being killed off on the devices to fight piracy...
* Anything not from the market being wiped out from time to time, for the same reason...
* Users are hunted down and being prosecuted for piracy based on their devices content...
* The system is rigged/updated to block inappropriate content, such as pedophile sites...
* Users are being prosecuted for possessing and/or visiting inappropriate content/providers...
* The "inappropriate" extends to warez sites and regular porn sites, "bad" users are still prosecuted...
* The "inappropriate" extend to the "wrong" political sites, "bad" users are still prosecuted...
* .......
I bet you get the idea. And yea, i know i am taking it too far, but still
PS: Let me add something... the builds we are running on our HD2 are often partially illegal (gaps) etc... hint hint
maybe a little paranoid, ok, well maybe a lot
InfX said:
* The system is rigged/updated to block inappropriate content, such as pedophile sites...
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not sure why you mentioned this, anyone in their right mind would welcome this particular point.
kam333 said:
maybe a little paranoid, ok, well maybe a lot
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A lot, exaggerated to the max, of course. But that doesn't turn what Google does right.
kam333 said:
not sure why you mentioned this, anyone in their right mind would welcome this particular point.
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Thats EXACTLY why i mentioned it.
InfX said:
A lot, exaggerated to the max, of course. But that doesn't turn what Google does right.
Thats EXACTLY why i mentioned it.
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personally, i think google already knows tooooo much about its users, but in the case of malware, google is definitely the lesser of the 2 evils
let me ask you this, would you rather the big G have some remote access to your device or hackers collecting your personal info. Its the connected world, there's no turning back!!!
only real solution for anyone worried about companies interfering with their device... remove the sim card... for ever.
gnight & dont have nightmares
kam333 said:
would you rather the big G have some remote access to your device or hackers collecting your personal info.
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Guess what... neither of those
Also, there are terrorists under the bed,chemtrails in the sky, bromine in the water,drug dealers at the school gates, drunks on fones in cars, bondage freaks at work,human traffickers, religious zealots bent coppers paedo nursery workers racists fanatics and plain clothes Google operatives spreading FUD in forums cos its cheaper and gets more results than million pound lawsuits. Oh and bloody clowns.
Just a random outpouring,please continue.
Infx may sound paranoid, and no person of any kind of moral decency would condone anbody using pedophelia porn or any other form of content that causes any kind of harm to anyone. But those are matters for the authorities to deal with, not google. If the internet's morality policies were enforced by a huge internet based company, wouldn't that be considered some kind of a conflict of interests somehow? I mean imagine if Disney were the biggest internet company, we'd never see so much as a single cuss-word or titty. Big companies shouldn't be able to impose their own commercialized morals upon users, the internet will inevitably grow more and more watered down. I don't consider myself a paranoid person, but this type of issue stinks of denial of 1st amendment rights, one step closer to completely government/corporate filtered news-tainment, and corporate control of the masses.
Huggs, i totally agree, thata why i posted this, not because i am actualluly that paranoid (would i still use Internet if i was ?). What i tried to do in my post is to demonstrate a worst case scenario, how would google start with somethimg that should be totally accepted by everyone (fighting pedophily) yet slowly move to fighting things we no longer want it to fight (political opinions).
PS: This little remote control thing is the first step for a corporate giant to become a corporate government, a corporate dictator. And the onlu things corporations care for is money, not their users.
PPS: Just my personal opinion, feel free to disagree.
I like that idea: http://code.google.com/p/open-android-alliance/
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Guess what... neither of those
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you really dont have a great deal of options
android, rim, ios & wp7 all have the ability to "spy" on their users to some degree,
mostly its just basic info such as: gps location, installed apps & how often they're used, crash logs, etc
some apps on ios have been caught out sending even more personal data. The point is, whilst i dont disagree fully with your concerns, i do see your post as somewhat hysterical.
There was no suggestion in the article you linked (or any other that ive read) that google is planning any of things you mentioned, so why mention them, as doing so only makes you a part of the current media trend of FUD as samsamuel put it.
this isnt about deny that all companies are in it 1st for the £$€, then customer welfare further down the list, im talking about being realistic. at this moment in time i cannot see google taking the path that you suggested, i also have far more immediate and real life things to focus on.
im all for a good conspiracy theory, fema detention camps springing up all over the usa (REX 84), the western so called "powers" planting the seeds of unrest in africa & the middle east so they can insert more puppets to secure natural resources (be it oil, gold, diamonds...), i could go on, but this isnt the place.
so let bring it back to google, you are in denial if you think cyber crime isnt going on, and with the rise of the smartphones we will see a rise of cyber crims trying to gain access. so i ask again who would you rather have access to your device?
if you still think or say neither, il know for sure you have lost the plot or you have taken my advice & binned your sim card cause thats the only other option you have.
@huggs, normally your post are quite informative & rational, that last post wasnt imho
no one was talking about censorship, the 1 point about google blocking access to child porn is something i would vote for, this has nothing to do with internet policing, you say thats down to the authorities, but they are not all seeing (no yet anyway) hence the use of informants by law enforcement the world wide, n thats all i would support. yes its possible that you give them a small mandate they will take it further but il worry about that IF the signs arise.
ppl who get there kick this way should have no rights, & should be actively hunted by whatever methods are available & taken out of the general population.
P.S.
Man i would love to have such a care free life that i need to start imagining then stressing about what may or may not happen, but i dont, my concerns are here & now, What you are talking about ISNT.
sorry for the lengthy post but your suggestions/posts are a subtle form of propaganda and a 1 line response really wouldn't cut it.
all the best
Kam
I say if we are doing something wrong and get caught that's our own fault.
How is it illegal? Isn't android open license ie freeware?
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@kam333, i may be way less paranoid than you may think, mind the fact i've posted this as a VERY far-fetched and unrealistic speculation that only got slim to nil chance of actually happening, but it does demonstrate a possibility of undoubtedly good things becoming a base to slowly advance into nasty control-it-all direction. And, yea, your suggestion about binning the SIM card won't work. I still got WiFi
@dung8604, search the net about why Cyanogen mod no longer includes Google apps.
Well, I'm running a cooked rom without a Google account set up. So I can cross that off of the paranoid list.
I can't say I'm surprised by anything written in the article.
Did a quick search and from what i can tell, only Google apps are proprietary. Nothing about the OS itself though
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what are the laws - content from websites

Hey guys,
I'm writing an app to display comics from a website and I'm wondering what the laws are with this. If people use my app instead of going to the website, they would not see the ads, therefore costing the website money. Also, if I put ads in my app, I'm making money by using someone else's content. This doesn't sound right. At the same time though, one could argue that this is really no different from making a web browser. All I'm doing is displaying information that is publicly available to anyone. Anyway, any clarification would be excellent.
Thanks,
Samuel Maskell
Well, the way I see it is now in days its well...you could get a way with it...
I mean its the same as if someone were to make a website that copies from another website but the copy ends up being better then the original...
I mean, I am sure that their was meant to be copyright laws against this, but its way to late to start enforcing them because now in days most sites do copy other sites...
So actually it is just a matter of if it would bother you that the owner of the site looses a tiny bit of money.
Since you aren't displaying the website in its original form, you are pulling copyrighted content off their website and displaying it in your app without their consent. I doubt anyone would bother suing you, but at most I could see the website trying to get the app pulled from the Market.
add144 said:
Since you aren't displaying the website in its original form, you are pulling copyrighted content off their website and displaying it in your app without their consent. I doubt anyone would bother suing you, but at most I could see the website trying to get the app pulled from the Market.
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On that note a question comes to mind is it the site owners comic as in did he make it? Because if hes not even the original maker of it hes problem not going to even try to get ur app taken off mainly because overall he would have done the same thing; plus I dont see the app effecting the website to much...Well, unless ur making 4-5 apps(iphone, ipad, android, android honeycomb, windows 7).
The site only displays original content, but yeah, I don't think they would care too much. I'm not particularly worried about getting sued or anything. I really don't see that happen. I just figured I'd ask to see if anyone had had a similar experience in order to avoid running into any problems they might have seen. Anyway, I'll just publish it when it's done and if he asks me to remove it, I'll do just that. Or maybe I'll send the guy an email and see how he feels about it..
Anyway, thanks everyone. You've been very helpful.
In the US it's illegal. The following refers to web sites but an app is really the same thing...
http://mason.gmu.edu/~montecin/copyright-internet.htm
When creating a Web page, you CANNOT:
* Put the contents of another person's or organizations web site on your Web page
* Copy and paste information together from various Internet sources to create "your own" document. [You CAN quote or paraphrase limited amounts, if you give credit to the original source and the location of the source. This same principle applies to print sources, of course.]
* Incorporate other people's electronic material, such as e-mail, in your own document, without permission.
* Forward someone's e-mail to another recipient without permission
* Change the context of or edit someone else's digital correspondence in a way which changes the meaning
* Copy and paste others' lists of resources on your own web page
* Copy and paste logos, icons, and other graphics from other web sites to your web page (unless it is clearly advertised as "freeware." Shareware is not free). Some organizations are happy to let you use their logos, with permission - it is free advertising. But they want to know who is using it. They might not approve of all sites who want to use their logo.
There is no law stoping you from creating an app that would display a specific part of a website. If this was the case a browser would be illegal.
You need to think of this from its simplest case...the website that is being copied is YOURS.
Say you design a web page of some sort. A blog, some graphic icons, some CARTOONS. How would you like to see some Apple or Android app that all of a sudden has YOUR web page creations on it for profit? I would be pretty pissed And find a way to stop you. LOL
I would carefully check the web page for something like "No portion of this page may be reproduced or copied without consent of "blah, blah" in the fine print.
Similar to re-broadcasting sports game, or more common, DRM with regards to music files.
I would error on the side of caution
whiteguypl said:
There is no law stoping you from creating an app that would display a specific part of a website. If this was the case a browser would be illegal.
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Bingo. Show me one case involving iphone or android and I will bow down.
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A browser displays the whole website - a major difference.
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Not true. What about a browser that supports Flash vs. one that doesn't? What about a browser that doesn't even support CSS? I don't see how this law could hold up without making a browser illegal.
I have an idea I will share with you all now (hopefully some one will steal it and make a billion dollars, as I will probably never do it and I want to use this app). My idea is for a new kind of webbrowser that rips out all formatting (no css), and instead just grabs content and formats it according to user-submissions (3rd party css pulling content from multiple sites).
According to some here, this app would be illegal, however, I call it a new form of webbrowser, I do not include any content/pages, users do by creating a page format and linking it to content from any online source. To call this illegal is to kill innovation and is unfair since it is just a new form of page rendering and many different webbrowsers have much different page rendering for the same site.
If someone is serious about working with me on this project, please send me a PM.
EDIT: If you think about it, my idea really is what APPs are. Many people make many apps for 3rd party websites like Wikipedia, Facebook, Twitter, etc. My idea is one app to rule them all... a browser that works more like an app, and people make html scanners + page layouts instead of making full apps. The idea makes any and every webpage work like an app.
The world is not fair - so why are you complaining?
You can do what you want, but live with the consequences.
Pulling content with the aim to alter it, is as a fact in most western countries illegal. If someone would want to provide only content, he would made an API, e.g. via Rest, SOAP or alike.
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What about FireFox with Ad block plus? Is that illegal? It modifies webpages and prevents them from getting ad revenue.
What about simply blocking ads by adding "ads.* 127.0.0.1" to your hosts file? Is that illegal too?
A browser downloads HTML, and then downloads pictures and renders them on the page. Why can't an "alternate browser" download the same pictures and use them in an alternate html layout?
There are a ton of "fake" apps in the Android market that simply open a page in a "lite" webbrowser. Almost every "Chrome App" is just a link to a webpage that loads them fullscreen. Are they all illegal if from a 3rd party?
I think linking to any portion of web content is a free for all as long as you do not store and re-distribute the content. I think my argument would stand up in court.
Adblocker are an infringement against most AGB/ Eula / Usage agreements.
And yes, I there are many offensive apps in the market. If you are in iran, mostly any violation against foreign law is legal - it depends on the country.
Better example: YouTube - most content violates local law, but YouTube, now Google has sufficient influence and money to deal with it. Do you?
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Your browser argument is stupid. The browser is displaying the original website. Hes talking about pulling copyrighted content off of a website, for his own profit. Those are completely different.
This is definitely illegal, but you probably won't get in trouble for it.
Lakers16 said:
Your browser argument is stupid. The browser is displaying the original website. Hes talking about pulling copyrighted content off of a website, for his own profit. Those are completely different.
This is definitely illegal, but you probably won't get in trouble for it.
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Actually he was using the browser as kind of an example I believe...And what you just said sounds a lot like what other sites do(aka arcade sites, autoblogs).
It's someone else's content. It's as simple as that.
If you want to make an app to display content you didn't create, then contact them the creator. Maybe you can write the app in excahnge for driving traffic to his cartoons.
The browser argument doesnt apply because browsers are general purpose applications that display any content the user requests, not specific content.
What it comes down to is intent. The same can be said for linking to pirated content.
Law is about nuance. Intent matters -- and this holds true in the digital age. You can't shoe-horn analogies of a broswer or linking or adblock onto this. Each of those holds a different purpose and accomplishes different goals by different means and most importantly for different REASONS.
Motive and intent matter.
I think I might write about this subject in my blog!
Legally, you're breaking copyright laws in several countries by taking other people's copyrighted material and showing it in a context they didn't authorise you to.
Whether they'll sue - who knows - whether they'll get your app removed - who knows - the law, app rules and reality don't always meet. You can do something quite legitimate and have your app remove anyway and apps which break the law are often ignored.
The idea of context is quite important - as is intent - but generally speaking, taking someone's work and doing ANYTHING with it, without their consent, is violation of copyright (the 'right' to 'copy' their work).
p.s. if you were charging for your app, that would be worse again (arguably, you're passing-off someone else's work as your own).
Even if he states the copyright - he uses a digital copy for his own good, fame, money - doesn't matter. It's an violation of copyright.
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Hosting Ideas? (Collaborate!)

Recently I've noticed that the free uploading websites have been going down and/or uploads being removed... Many of the ROM's are being pulled down. Well it's time to find a new way to host the files for free...
Alaq said:
Recently I've noticed that the free uploading websites have been going down and/or uploads being removed... Many of the ROM's are being pulled down. Well it's time to find a new way to host the files for free... I would say make a free account on 000webhost, upload a mini site describing your ROM, and upload your ROM. 000webhost gives 1.5GB of space. But others may have better ways so collaborate.
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You can't do that, it goes agaisn't the rules of 000Webhost.
TravisAntonio said:
You can't do that, it goes agaisn't the rules of 000Webhost.
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Hmmm, I thought that I read that somewhere... Oh well, like I said collaborate, how are you gonna share your custom ROMs now?
So I'vo got a hosting space that is used to host an HD2 rom. I don't have limitations in terms of space and bandwidth but I don't want use for now...Maybe later...
How about 4shared, mediafire ?
The other solution would be to everybody send 1 € or $1 and to acquire an unlimited hosting plan with access to the devs only...
Why aren't people just using the torrent system? You can torrent from just about any modern device.
Its free, and if bandwidth is an issue for a dev, you can throttle upload speed easily and let initial leechers pick up the slack.
Not to sound sarcastic, but torrenting was made in large part FOR collaberation and sundry, not just pirating. Ironic that we've shifted back to reliance on download server services.
If folks lose the "hit and run" mentality propogated by Megafileserveuploadetc sites we can simplify this entire dynamic drastically.
[Atrix 4GWannabe] XDA Premium suggestions - Analytics opt-out, Setting backup/restore
XDA should open torrent tracket
Sounds funny but that's not bad idea, although that would work only for new/popular files...
+1 Bit Torrent... I'll seed!
im not sure why i didnt think of it either, i am not going to lie that i have been a tad illegal here and there, but i was upset about some legal files getting hit in the cross fire, i have a usb 3.0 1TB drive for my files and a 50 DL 15 UL connection with an always on connection, ill torrent my ass off knowing i wont get a letter for doing something illegal
I dont find it really a huge issue, since there are still many ways to get files if you really need or want them. Plus you can share public files from dropbox which is a fairly good way as long as you have the storage and a decent upload speed.
Where to Host android files
Through the grape vine i have learned of a new site set not yet open but sounds great for developers. its androidromhosting.com , its suppose to open soon and specialize in hosting all things android for the community, developers will have opportunities for their own portals and all kinds of cool stuff. I know some of the people involved and I will update here as soon as it opens !!
Alaq!
can you reupload fastboot wipe? all the links are dead

Downloading ROM and other stuff

Hey Guys,
I'm a long time lurker around here, and I'm downloading roms from time to time for my SGS.
I can't start expressing how much I love this community and how I believe that it impacted the Android platform as a whole.
My question/suggestion is regarding the files that developer are uploading to various free hosting services - most of these places are unreliable, hard to navigate, filled with crappy advertisement that only tries to confuse users to download their crapware filled with malware, and generally a shady business that no one really wants to visit, but we must because we need to download 100mb+ of files now and then.
The question/suggestion is: Why aren't you guys using BitTorrent? Right off the bat BitTorrent seems perfectly fitted to the needs of the community - sharing large files across a large number of users minimizing the bandwidth usage overall.
In my opinion there should be a public tracker dedicated for XDA devs, it could be easily integrated into the forums in terms of getting information about a file and how much people downloaded/used it, and could provide an invaluable service both to lurkers like me, and to the devs who seek to expand their reach.
Have you guys tried using bittorrent and found that it's not adequate? or is it something that simply wasn't an issue for most of you?
BitTorrent is easy as hell for most users, it's extremely fast, very stable, supported on any platform, and generally designed for cases exactly like XDA devs where one needs to transmit a large file across a large number of users.
Are you willing to try this? I suggest the The Pirate Bay as the first stop [although it might be a problem because it is blocked in some place] until it's proven to be useful, at which point I'm sure someone will pick up the glove and create a tracker dedicated to XDA devs.
Some use torrents, but usually in addition to other links. I agree with you for the most part, but there will always be more users who have trouble with this compared to a regular link. That being said, I hardly have much trouble with hosting sites, mediafire can be a bit of a chore sometimes, but it always works.
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