Team ICSSGS for Epic 4G? - Epic 4G General

I am curious why the Epic 4G has been left of the ICSSGS list. I would love to have the pure experience on my phone but do not have the ability to even try to understand the programming involved. I am just wondering if anyone has even thought about it for our phone?
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The cm dev team is working on cm9.
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Was posted by marcusant in the CM7 wimax thread.
I think it's safe to say it's being worked on.
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Both of those are CM9, not stock ICS. I believe OP is asking why there is no Epic4g involvement in team ICSSGS.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/team-icssgs-brings-pure-aosp-ics-to-samsung-galaxy-s-line-up/
CM9 is gonna be great, but if I had a choice I'd probably run stock ICS.

We are NOT getting ICS so get over it or write Samsung. Sorry to sound so abrasive but you are preaching to the choir. There is no reason why we shouldn't except it would take Samsung 10 months to get it working on Touchwiz and BML.
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This build is not built by Samsung. I'm sure the Epic may be able to work with AOSP ICS now that we have WiMax drivers for it and most of the guts are the same with the other variants. We no TW, I'm sure there is enough space for AOSP ICS to fit.
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adelmundo said:
This build is not built by Samsung. I'm sure the Epic may be able to work with AOSP ICS now that we have WiMax drivers for it and most of the guts are the same with the other variants. We no TW, I'm sure there is enough space for AOSP ICS to fit.
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Of course it would work AOSP but Samsung already has the Nexus's out there for that. They are not going to shift gears and strip TW out of all the Galaxy S phones. We have to rely on our DEVs to get ICS on this phone.
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Team ICSSGS is an independent team not affiliated with Samsung. The op was probably asking if there were any Epic devs on Team ICSSGS and if the team will release a version for the Epic. They already have AOSP ICS builds for the Captivate, Vibrant and International SGS.
These builds are not coming from Samsung

kennyglass123 said:
We are NOT getting ICS so get over it or write Samsung. Sorry to sound so abrasive but you are preaching to the choir. There is no reason why we shouldn't except it would take Samsung 10 months to get it working on Touchwiz and BML.
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What are you even talking about? Did you read anything that anyone wrote?
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Of course it would work AOSP but Samsung already has the Nexus's out there for that. They are not going to shift gears and strip TW out of all the Galaxy S phones. We have to rely on our DEVs to get ICS on this phone.
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Well that answers my question. Read the link I posted above. This has NOTHING to do with Samsung and NOTHING to do with Cyanogenmod. He was asking why we are the only Galaxy S variant not involved in Team ICSSGS. Again, nothing to do with Samsung.

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What are you even talking about? Did you read anything that anyone wrote?
Well that answers my question. Read the link I posted above. This has NOTHING to do with Samsung and NOTHING to do with Cyanogenmod. He was asking why we are the only Galaxy S variant not involved in Team ICSSGS. Again, nothing to do with Samsung.
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lol.. kennyglass123 .. I believe you lost this one..

My bad...LOL...drinking and watching the Playoffs. Carry on.
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I would say because devs on the epic are becoming scarce and/or stretched thin. My suggestion is to learn how to develop, ask the team to join, and start coding!
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to muyoso: I think you are referring to what icssgs is doing as stock is going to cause more confusion.. Stock on epic 4g would be an official tw room from Samsung.. An aosp type rom is what icssgs is working on.. (since none of these phones are in anyway aosp phones)
To OP: Their are a bunch of skilled devs on their own team working on an ics aosp-like rom for this phone.. They are awesome people.. Doing this on their own time... In their own way.. If you want aosp ics than get a galaxy nexus.. Otherwise respect these guys and don't ask them why they don't do this (aka joining another Dev team or project) .. Moreover without the epiccm7 team their wouldn't even be a twinkling of an idea that anytime soon you could even expect an ics rom on the epic..
And next time put this in Q&A..
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It wasn't a request to get it worked on I was just wondering if anyone had taken a look at it as developers.
I am kinda a stock kind of guy with my phone and it interested me when it came up on the news feed today. I simply made the thread to get a bit of chatter about another possible (even though highly unlikely) avenue for ROMs for people that like their phone to look more stock. That's all.
Sorry I caused such a fuss. I promise my question was in no way asking the current developers to leave their current projects. I will probably try CM9 when it comes out.
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hmiem81 said:
I will probably try CM9 when it comes out.
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Reading the recent chatter in the CM7 you might not have to wait long.
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AOSP ICS will quickly be forgotten the moment CM9 is released.
Am I wrong? I don't see any benefits on using that over CM9.

There are modifications to the AOSP that CM sees as benefits and there are pros and cons to that. It interested me that there was another team out there that was trying for the purest form they could build.
I happen to like the stock launchers that Google make and from what I have looked into regarding CM is that it comes with ADW or LauncherPro and not the stock launcher and that's what I would prefer. Just a preference thing really. I'd actually like a nexus model but the ones that I have available think SD cards are from the devil!
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Trebuchet is the stock ICS launcher allowing users more control over orientation and transition feature and more features later, they're not using ADW any longer. CM9 in it's current state is AOSP. It's an Alpha, there's not heavy modifications and few optimizations to it yet. Perhaps some actual looking into it would be preferrable. CM9 itself isn't official yet. And once we get it, it'll still not be official until the whole is considerd official.

That's awesome to know!
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that word stock on cell phone roms is so confusing.. Like on Samsung phones the GB stock launcher is tw... Maybe Android standard launcher would be a better way to refer to it . Ie ics standard launcher.. Not saying to do that at all, just frustrated with such confusion for the word stock
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Ever getting gingerbread?

I know there's a bunch of different threads of people speculating and rumoring about gingerbread, but I thought it'd be a good idea to try to make a central one. I know the chances of getting an official release are slim but if you see any news, rumors, announcements, tweets, carrier pigeons, or messages in a bottle, post them here.
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I know I should be insulted, but that's damn funny, lol. (I also need 10 posts to be able to ask a question in the dev section, so there!)
How many times has this question been asked.
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I'm not so much asking as much as trying to give a place for people to go to in the future. I'm sure we're never getting official gingerbread, so this is more of a place for people to put what's up and coming, most in roms I assume. just tired of scrubbing through tons of threads when there can be 1 central idea.
Jeez! Just trying to do a public service! lol
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How many times has this question been asked.
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How many times has *this* question been asked?
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exspecto said:
How many times has *this* question been asked?
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Too many
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Psest328 said:
I know I should be insulted, but that's damn funny, lol. (I also need 10 posts to be able to ask a question in the dev section, so there!)
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Psest328 said:
I know I should be insulted, but that's damn funny, lol. (I also need 10 posts to be able to ask a question in the dev section, so there!)
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Part of the reason there is a 10 post requirement is to give you the time to learn that this is exactly what you don't do in the development section.
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If a man could get one decent answer instead of 10 smartass comments we would all be a lot happier.
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I know the chances of getting an official release are slim but if you see any news, rumors, announcements, tweets, carrier pigeons, or messages in a bottle, post them here.
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I got a smoke signal. It said that gingerbread was coming to the epic on 4-20. Or it said gingerbread was epicly tasty at 4:20. I couldn't tell. I wasn't a very good scout.
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hypothetically since typically a device gets 1 maybe 2 updates and there was a boost mobile galaxy s being released with 2.2 if it gets the standard 1 or 2 updates that would but it at 2.3 then would it not be quite simple to port it over to the epic??? i know it is a lot of ifs but a thought maybe
Cyanogenmod 7 alpha3, get it now in the dev area.....
Its based on Android 2.3.3 so I think it will curb your hunger for gingerbread...
I always Do research before asking question.
But I also think I'm the master of everything so I could be all wrong.....haha
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While I hope the epic will get Cyanogen because I don't much like the idea of being dependent on Sprint and Samsung there is a leaked gingerbread rom for the Galaxy S so I think there is a possibly in the far distant future.
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How many times has *this* question been asked?
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Hahaha u so funny, u think of that all by yourself????
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tinkergnome said:
hypothetically since typically a device gets 1 maybe 2 updates and there was a boost mobile galaxy s being released with 2.2 if it gets the standard 1 or 2 updates that would but it at 2.3 then would it not be quite simple to port it over to the epic??? i know it is a lot of ifs but a thought maybe
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Nexus s is a galaxy S so no the porting won't be simple, but we all wish it was
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We will never see an official Samsung gingerbread release. The closest we will get is surely cyanogen and that isn't far from us.
We wont see it officially, and if we do, it will be when this phone has 1 dev left.
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speak for yourself
Who cares. All I want from gingerbread is hardware acceleration. Not that big a deal. Im absolutely fine with midNIGHT 2.2.
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What are you thoughts?

Samsung Stratosphere. Go........
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Looks like the epic. But will probably have something different just enough to f*%$ us over.
What's the release date...its an epic clone and once its out we'll easily be able to port everything meaning CM7, MIUI, and ASOP roms with custom kernels...better looking forward to this than waiting forever for our own official version...smh
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ugothakd said:
Looks like the epic. But will probably have something different just enough to f*%$ us over.
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So far the only 'different' I saw was that its shipping with Gingerbread.. lol
N the lte n 4g difference. Would that make it a different kernel?
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This couldn't just be in the Stratusphere thread?
tony45x220 said:
What's the release date...its an epic clone and once its out we'll easily be able to port everything meaning CM7, MIUI, and ASOP roms with custom kernels...better looking forward to this than waiting forever for our own official version...smh
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Yeah, so was the nexus. It helped, but not everything worked
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N the lte n 4g difference. Would that make it a different kernel?
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different kernel but not source. We can probably delete the lte sections of the kernel source and either add wimax or just keep it 3G only. I talked to deca yesterday on the IRC and he said he's not gonna use their source, but maybe jt1134 or another dev will. He ported other CDMA SGS devices to CM7 and MIUI.
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different kernel but not source. We can probably delete the lte sections of the kernel source and either add wimax or just keep it 3G only. I talked to deca yesterday on the IRC and he said he's not gonna use their source, but maybe jt1134 or another dev will. He ported other CDMA SGS devices to CM7 and MIUI.
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Hopefully jt jumps on board and helps us out a bit n using the Stratosphere's source or something. Wait, I haven't seen Nullghost around for a while either...has anyone seen him around? Or does anyone know if he's still helping us with CM7?
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Hopefully jt jumps on board and helps us out a bit n using the Stratosphere's source or something. Wait, I haven't seen Nullghost around for a while either...has anyone seen him around? Or does anyone know if he's still helping us with CM7?
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I remember he left... a while back. I'm not 100% though
ugothakd said:
Yeah, so was the nexus. It helped, but not everything worked
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I think based off it having the same keyboard (unlike the nexus), being TW overlayed (unlike the nexus), having the same exact specs (processor, camera, RAM, etc.) as our epics minus cosmetic appearences and carrier branding (unlike the nexus) the fact that samsprint took our epics off the EOL list pending this release (at least its what I points to)...that this phone will be a lot more relivant in getting us what we need...and in getting us way farther than the nexus could...#fairtosay
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ugothakd said:
I remember he left... a while back. I'm not 100% though
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Apparently he just doesn't have the required time to help out at the moment. By the way, I just snapped this on my Epic a couple minutes ago, u guys might wanna take a look!
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Seems jt got the .35 kernel to boot, AND camera is now WORKING!
Edit: oops, seems someone already "spilled the beans" on this over in the CM thread in development
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Ceelos09 said:
Apparently he just doesn't have the required time to help out at the moment. By the way, I just snapped this on my Epic a couple minutes ago, u guys might wanna take a look!
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Seems jt got the .35 kernel to boot, AND camera is now WORKING!
Edit: oops, seems someone already "spilled the beans" on this over in the CM thread in development
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Yup. That was me. Amazing how he's made progress and deca has given up till epic source. He says he won't use stratosphere source either
xboxfanj said:
Yup. That was me. Amazing how he's made progress and deca has given up till epic source. He says he won't use stratosphere source either
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How big of a deal is the LTE thing within the source...other than that...isn't it IDENTICAL to our phones?
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tony45x220 said:
How big of a deal is the LTE thing within the source...other than that...isn't it IDENTICAL to our phones?
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See, thats the million dollar question. The Nexus S 4g was supposed to be identical in everyway but the keyboard, but obviously that wasn't the case.
Also, lte removal should be easy as deleting a few files or editing the .config.
Obama
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These lucky bastards that buy the Stratosphere may have a workable CM7 Kang Beta on day one and we had to wait how long?
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xboxfanj said:
Yup. That was me. Amazing how he's made progress and deca has given up till epic source. He says he won't use stratosphere source either
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Well, I'm atleast grateful jt was able to get the .35 kernel up, and hopefully he goes as far as to tinker with the Stratosphere's source as a lot of us are curious if it will at all be more or less help than the Nexus S's source. As for Deca, I do also understand his stance in this situation. He's already done a lot by getting us a CM7 beta build, so if he decides to wait for official source, then I guess we'll all be waiting I mean, we've waited this long on Samsung already, no turning back now
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Any challenges out there?

I have one week of free time. I've ported GummyNex (click) and CM9 (click), and I need something to do. Any of you have any ROMs that want to be ported? No guarantees on anything, but I need something to do because of the cloudy and rainy weather here in Dallas. I was looking at Sense 4, Codename Android, and the Liquid Metal port, but what do you guys think?
what happened to the gummy port? And I never even knew about a CM9 port.
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scottspa74 said:
what happened to the gummy port? And I never even knew about a CM9 port.
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The Gummy port was never put out because of upload issues, and the CM9 port was done about 20 minutes ago.
*cough* port something to Samsung Moment *cough*
I do like the ports, I'm impressed. Congratulations on your growing development!
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tropicalbrit said:
*cough* port something to Samsung Moment *cough*
I do like the ports, I'm impressed. Congratulations on your growing development!
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Well, I would if I have a Moment
And thanks. I hate to see a great and legendary device die...
I have a pretty cool challenge. Post the gummy and cm9 ports
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defjef123 said:
I have a pretty cool challenge. Post the gummy and cm9 ports
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10 char
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defjef123 said:
I have a pretty cool challenge. Post the gummy and cm9 ports
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I will. Also, CNA port is done. Camcorder and Panorama are also working
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I say do the Sense 4.0.
I agree sense 4.0 should keep u busy for abit
X_N_ said:
I say do the Sense 4.0.
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he cant he has no kernel to make it even boot then he has to resize EVERYTHING
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he cant he has no kernel to make it even boot then he has to resize EVERYTHING
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Take a look at Swamp Goblin's progress in the Nexus S forums. Who said a port o a port wouldn't work?
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Take a look at Swamp Goblin's progress in the Nexus S forums. Who said a port o a port wouldn't work?
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the kernel youve been using is the same one which is drews. That kernel is meant for ics aosp. You would have to modify the kernel for sense ics which NO ONE has been able to do on the OG. So port isn't as simple as you think.
So does ur cm9 port have working HWA an front cam???
An when u gona post all these ports man???? The wait is killin me
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So does ur cm9 port have working HWA an front cam???
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Most likely not, my cm9 from source is bootable but not very stable of course my kernel is built from the ground up and no where near complete since proprietary driver source for the evo isn't available for ics thanks to HTC EOL'ing the evo so they couldn't be forced to drop an updated Dev kit, I've had to either hack gb drivers to work with ics or attempt to write the drivers from scratch which has been an excercise in getting a nice migraine but somethings gonna give and ill either get it working or die trying evo tho I don't use my evo as my main phone anymore I've committed myself to getting that f*cker working come hell or highwater
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That's badasss man I'm rootin for u. every day it feels like ics development is at a halt with very little progress but its understandable with what little there is to get things funtional. Keeeep at it man
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I have a challenge for you, upload a rom.... You ask us to challenge you because you are bored and just pumping out ports well hook Us up... Just sayin
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I have a challenge for you, upload a rom.... You ask us to challenge you because you are bored and just pumping out ports well hook Us up... Just sayin
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Ha I was wonderin if u were gona poke ur head in here Jared
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Trust me when I say getting ics working takes a hell of a lot of work and time with no official support >_< I can compile 3 cm7.2 mods with new goodies before I can get one cm9 done and about 90% of the time it feels like I wasted the time compiling cm9 cuz what was fixed was so minor it doesn't feel like it made a damn dent in the FC city its like going to war with a water gun and thinking you're gonna survive :rollseyes:
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Seems like trolls.
Don't feed the trolls.

Thread for discussing/begging for CM10 Jelly Bean

They thought CM9 couldn't be ported to the Epic 4g, but a valiant corps of devs has done amazing work and gotten every single major feature, including 4g, to work in cyanogenmod.
Now that android 4.1 has been released, it is only natural to ask if it will be possible for the Epic 4g to keep up with CM10 when that is released, and to talk about the prospects and excitement of that idea.
Let's do that here, and not in the discussion threads for CM7 or CM9.
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The galaxy Nexus doesnt even have CM10... however all versions already have ports from the preview that were supposed to be only for the Gnex's given out at Google I/O HA!
Im sure youll see a port here sometime soon until them dont post these demand threads.. they are major Troll Bait.
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garyf said:
They thought CM9 couldn't be ported to the Epic 4g
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No, we all knew it could be done...
And JB is better optimized and can easily be ported.
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The galaxy Nexus doesnt even have CM10... however all versions already have ports from the preview that were supposed to be only for the Gnex's given out at Google I/O HA!
Im sure youll see a port here sometime soon until them dont post these demand threads.. they are major Troll Bait.
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Because all of the gnexes use the same kernel and just need edited ril files to fix service.
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MДЯCЦSДИT said:
No, we all knew it could be done...
And JB is better optimized and can easily be ported.
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My coding experience is limited to MatLab so since you develop correct me if I'm wrong. JB is version 4.1 so since it is not a full step up and we already have drivers that work for 4.0 CM10 will not be as difficult as CM9.
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My coding experience is limited to MatLab so since you develop correct me if I'm wrong. JB is version 4.1 so since it is not a full step up and we already have drivers that work for 4.0 CM10 will not be as difficult as CM9.
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Yeah, no major changes
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I assume they just tweaked the UI and features, cleaned up code, optimized, ect.
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New wifi drivers new updated GPU drivers for our PowerVR. There are a few changes.
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Hrmm...the low level tweaks they've made in project butter concern me, in regards to whether or not the hummingbird SoC can handle it. The UI is going to put even more strain on it than ICS, and I feel ICS is already borderline the max/slightly passed what it can handle....I suppose we'll see though.
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Hrmm...the low level tweaks they've made in project butter concern me, in regards to whether or not the hummingbird SoC can handle it. The UI is going to put even more strain on it than ICS, and I feel ICS is already borderline the max/slightly passed what it can handle....I suppose we'll see though.
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Nexus s has hummingbird.
Google said nexus s gets jb.
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I cant speak for cm10 but someone here like marcusant or another dev doing it for fun? Like a kang? yeah i can see that. Lol
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MДЯCЦSДИT said:
Nexus s has hummingbird.
Google said nexus s gets jb.
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MДЯCЦSДИT said:
Because all of the gnexes use the same kernel and just need edited ril files to fix service.
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Have you been working on a port? If so, I'd be willing to test for you. I can help!
Let me know if anything Marcus, I'm getting LMDE back onto my laptop and getting everything set up again, wanted to start over.
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I'm working on it with a ns4g developer, xboxfanj, and a few others.
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MДЯCЦSДИT said:
I'm working on it with a ns4g developer, xboxfanj, and a few others.
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I can't wait to see your progress!
MДЯCЦSДИT said:
I'm working on it with a ns4g developer, xboxfanj, and a few others.
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Ah for sure, if anything let me know. So I can disappear for a few more months haha.
Not sure if this is relevant but adobe is no longer going to support its flash player for android 4.1 or higher. Saw this while browsing through flipboard.
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Speedin07si said:
Not sure if this is relevant but adobe is no longer going to support its flash player for android 4.1 or higher. Saw this while browsing through flipboard.
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The same thing was said about ICS right?
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Team Passion

Team passion latest rom Chimera v2.2 is A beast!!
Same here its awesome
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Who the hell cares
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Chuck Norris
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Team Passion can lick my left nut. (P.S. you don't wanna lick my left nut, just my right one)
I don't like how they update scarcely but chimera is just awesome. And what nuts can I lick? You got none.
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iKoolkid said:
I don't like how they update scarcely but chimera is just awesome. And what nuts can I lick? You got none.
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Man...
I got so many nuts you won't be able to fit them in your mouth
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Man...
I got so many nuts you won't be able to fit them in your mouth
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xD
But on topic lol I;m actually not a huge fan of Chimera or Team Passion myself ^^;;
I mean, Chimera is an okay rom...no doubt, but it doesn't hold a candle to roms like Iczen in my opinion.
But hey, run what you like best ^^ There are some really popular roms out there that I would never run daily...its all
a matter of preference.
I respect developers who respect the community, and very rarely are there groups of people like in Team Passion which can be complete assholes.
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I respect developers who respect the community, and very rarely are there groups of people like in Team Passion which can be complete assholes.
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Agreed man, agreed.
I can say chimera and iczen are equal to me
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I can say chimera and iczen are equal to me
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Don't you dare compare ICZen to that PoS.
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I can say chimera and iczen are equal to me
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Whoa, whoa, whoa....equal in what ways?
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I can say chimera and iczen are equal to me
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I can say chimera and iczen are equal to me
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It's not even close ICZen is so much better.
With an open mind I flashed chimera 2.2, I had tried v1, but it was too green. Well it bootlooped out of the gate on the aroma installer which suprised me. Just too many things that arent fine tuned ...yet. Gamma hack wouldnt stick period, though it was pretty smooth and quick. Sorry, not even close..yet, but you never know how it will evolve.ICZEN! Have great respect for Giordono as a dev.
Y'all need to at least try the new 2.2 before you make acquisitions
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Hey, can somebody explain what is this argument about? What's wrong with team passion?
p.s. I don't think this is the right place to discuss each other's **** size.
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Well for me...I lost all respect for team passion when neo started releasing his work with pirated apps...but not only did he release his roms with paid for apps...but he went even further and started renaming the apps and modifying their start up screens to make it seem like he was the creator of the app. And it wasn't just one or two...he would release things like ICS passion with like 10 pirated apps all renamed and modified to include his name and ****. I mean, that is completely disrespectful of the hard work that the app maker put into their work...and he never even asked them for permission either! I don't understand how you yourself can release something and at the same time have such a low respect for others who are putting in their time and energy trying to make the device better. I mean, this is one of the big reasons that the passion team was first kicked from XDA...and then when they were allowed back and didn't learn their lesson...what do they do....they decide to move to their own website and FB page where they are allowed to take whoever's work without permission. You know, I remember flashing chimera 1 and I thought to myself when I was going through the aroma installer....they have so many kernel options and ****, and I bet they never once asked any of those developers if they could use their kernels in their rom...and sure sure, that might not be so bad....but they no where say "thank you" to the people whose work they included in the rom. Now, I may be wrong about that...but based on their past performance, I really wouldn't doubt it. That team doesn't respect the community whatsoever, and that's why they moved.
hater gonna Hate!!
hater gonna hate no matter what forum,i am using chimera 2.2 and i like the ROM,its the best i ever had!!!!!
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Well for me...I lost all respect for team passion when neo started releasing his work with pirated apps...but not only did he release his roms with paid for apps...but he went even further and started renaming the apps and modifying their start up screens to make it seem like he was the creator of the app. And it wasn't just one or two...he would release things like ICS passion with like 10 pirated apps all renamed and modified to include his name and ****. I mean, that is completely disrespectful of the hard work that the app maker put into their work...and he never even asked them for permission either! I don't understand how you yourself can release something and at the same time have such a low respect for others who are putting in their time and energy trying to make the device better. I mean, this is one of the big reasons that the passion team was first kicked from XDA...and then when they were allowed back and didn't learn their lesson...what do they do....they decide to move to their own website and FB page where they are allowed to take whoever's work without permission. You know, I remember flashing chimera 1 and I thought to myself when I was going through the aroma installer....they have so many kernel options and ****, and I bet they never once asked any of those developers if they could use their kernels in their rom...and sure sure, that might not be so bad....but they no where say "thank you" to the people whose work they included in the rom. Now, I may be wrong about that...but based on their past performance, I really wouldn't doubt it. That team doesn't respect the community whatsoever, and that's why they moved.
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Totally agree with you. This reminds me of good old froyo days and a guy called Akaskriller or something. However the good point is that all the noob parade is in Team Passion roms.

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