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The Time of Windows 8 is upon us!!!
-This thread is for anything from Q&A to mentioning new features that you come upon. It is also for any updates, mods, etc. that you see. I will attempt to update this thread as often as possible. Along with these things, tell us about your rig and then tell us about the performance you are getting.
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-New Features:
- Metro UI
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Is there any way to CLOSE Metro apps without using the task manager? The only way I can get out of things is using the Windows key on my keyboard it seems. Its such a simple question...one I haven't found an answer to yet.
dreamcaster012 said:
Is there any way to CLOSE Metro apps without using the task manager? The only way I can get out of things is using the Windows key on my keyboard it seems. Its such a simple question...one I haven't found an answer to yet.
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alt+f4 it will leave you at a blank screen. just windows key back
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alt+f4 it will leave you at a blank screen. just windows key back
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Yeah, it seems like thats the only way out right now. Also, does anyone know how to stop Metro IE10 from having that "Only secure content is shown" pop-up at almost every website?
Interestingly I managed to get the "classic" bootloader back by exiting the Windows 8 one in the more option screen. Which I guess is actually a bad thing because it went and put Win8 back as the default selection =/
And at the keynote, the Windows key is how the speaker got out of Metro apps on the demo units without a touchscreen. (I just streamed it, and just the first day's one at that)
expiring date of this pre-beta release is 12 march 2012
Question
Do the apps in the start menu actually work or are they here just to make the start menu look nice?
The only links that actually work are, desktop, file explorer, chrome (that I installed), control panel, and internet explore.
edit: well after searching other forums i solved my problem
the metro apps will only work if you have a resolution of 1024x768 or higher
a simple reg edit fixed this
1) Run regedit
1a) highlight the higest tree level (Computer)
2) Search for “Display1_DownScalingSupported” and changed it from “0″ to “1″
3) Restart the system
4) Enjoy the two new resolutions: 1024×768 px and 1152×864 px
the metro apps will work now.
Can't get the install past 90%
Loading to my netbook how long did the install take for yall
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took 30 min.
1.66ghz, 2gb ram
used a flash drive
I have one ram but 1.66 ghz
Did your install hang at 90? Did you install over w7 or did fresh install?
That's what she said...
I installed win8 from a flash drive on to a separate partition. It never hanged for me but I have 2 gb of ram... I also installed the 64bit b/c i was getting a driver error for a dvd/cd drive when i don't even have one.
1gb is the min for 32bit and 2gb for 64bit.
Now my metro ui apps won't open
That's what she said...
ayysir said:
Now my metro ui apps won't open
That's what she said...
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If ur apps wont open try this, most likely your resolution is to low.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265544
very good, i have tested it, and is ok...
Got it running on my Acer Iconia Tab w500, which I may be right in saying is the only Windows tablet you can buy with a multitouch capacitive screen? Either way this thing is MADE for Windows 8, I just have a couple of hardware issues that I don't foresee being able to resolve on my own, but I'm not sure where to post about it. The biggest thing is getting the accelerometer back.....
Overall for a developer preview, its a great experience, it just needs a bit more refinement and some smart people do develop more Metro apps! I don't have the internal storage to dual boot so I'm all-in.
yea my accelerometer doesn't work either.
dreamcaster012 said:
Is there any way to CLOSE Metro apps without using the task manager? The only way I can get out of things is using the Windows key on my keyboard it seems. Its such a simple question...one I haven't found an answer to yet.
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thepyro6 said:
alt+f4 it will leave you at a blank screen. just windows key back
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dreamcaster012 said:
Yeah, it seems like thats the only way out right now. Also, does anyone know how to stop Metro IE10 from having that "Only secure content is shown" pop-up at almost every website?
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No No No that's not the way.Just put your mouse to the top of the app and drag it down.It will close.No need for alt and f4 at all!
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ayysir said:
Can't get the install past 90%
Loading to my netbook how long did the install take for yall
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 7in.
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Are you doing an upgrade or a clean install.If youre trying to upgrade,try a clean install.It will work:laugh:
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thevictor390 said:
Got it running on my Acer Iconia Tab w500, which I may be right in saying is the only Windows tablet you can buy with a multitouch capacitive screen? Either way this thing is MADE for Windows 8, I just have a couple of hardware issues that I don't foresee being able to resolve on my own, but I'm not sure where to post about it. The biggest thing is getting the accelerometer back.....
Overall for a developer preview, its a great experience, it just needs a bit more refinement and some smart people do develop more Metro apps! I don't have the internal storage to dual boot so I'm all-in.
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Y U No Use RTM?
Alt+F4 (which works correctly in RTM) is much faster for people who are used to using keyboard shortcuts, although the "drag from top to bottom" gesture works fine with a mouse and is very easy with touch (less so with stylus, though still possible). That said, closing TIFKAM apps is rarely needed; when in the background most apps are suspended and use no CPU or battery life. I believe they will be closed automatically if another app needs the RAM, although I'm less sure of that. Incidentally, you can also close them using the mouse by going to any other screen (Start, Desktop, another TIFKAM app), then mouse to the upper left corner (shows the switcher), right-click on an app thumbnail, select Close.
I installed Windows 8 Consumer Preview on my netbook last night to see exactly how well the performance is on a low level machine. Loving it thus far, after doing the regedit to allow me to run metro apps. Through configuring everything the way I wanted it, I stumbled upon a problem. I cannot change my default home location within the default Weather app. Does anyone know a trick to changing that? I tried a little google-fu, but had no luck.
skyfallcinema said:
I installed Windows 8 Consumer Preview on my netbook last night to see exactly how well the performance is on a low level machine. Loving it thus far, after doing the regedit to allow me to run metro apps. Through configuring everything the way I wanted it, I stumbled upon a problem. I cannot change my default home location within the default Weather app. Does anyone know a trick to changing that? I tried a little google-fu, but had no luck.
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Hmmm, usually it asks me on first use what my location is...you may need to pull up the options/settings menu in the app...then, click "places" and enter your location there. If you have already tried this I'll try some other options and let you know...
Btw, how do you like win8?
I have been unable to try the suggested steps as of yet. Life's been slightly hectic the past day or so. I'll try that out tonight.
So far, I love Windows 8. I am running it on my netbook currently, but I am planning on throwing it on my main rig in a dual boot environment to see how the 64 bit version handles anything I can throw at it, since I really don't do much when I am using my netbook outside of IE. I see a lot of people complaining about the Metro UI. I personally love it. I have to say, though, I have been on Windows Phone 7 since early last year. Speaking of, I have high hopes for the integration between the two platforms based on what I have seen so far.
Right click in the weather app and something should come up. I'm not at my computer right now so I don't know what exactly
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How can I change F to Celsius?
mikekrk said:
How can I change F to Celsius?
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right click to bring up app menu, then bottom right there should be an option.
Does anyone have the preview and NOT want to download the RT when it comes out? I admit there are many things which annoy me with Windows 8, it simply takes too long to get many things done compared with Windows 7. I'll still give it a go though.....
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Does anyone have the preview and NOT want to download the RT when it comes out? I admit there are many things which annoy me with Windows 8, it simply takes too long to get many things done compared with Windows 7. I'll still give it a go though.....
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I find that it works much more effeciently than before, ill defo be downloading it and testing it, in fact if its possible i might try an upgrade of Win 7 too this time to see how that performs
i'll try it, just so i can make an educated opinion about it.
i al really digging windows 8, at first it took a while to get sued to metro, but now there are some ui things that i really like about windows 8 and i am dieing to see what they are going to change in the release preview. There are a few complaints, but we all must remember this is a beta product and our judgements should be more geard for RTM and release preview
^^^ How about the settings though? It takes me really long to change different settings...I've had to pin so many things to the bottom screen because there's no Start.
Don't laugh now...I did try without the start and I will try again...but I have been using a mod to put start back...
I do like many of the UI changes though. Also I'm keen to seen how good my laptop battery is on it, Micro said it would be better than Windows 7...also, what do you all think of Micro Security Essentials for Windows 8? They claim it's far more advanced before with some mega anti-rootkit stuff that is not available anywhere else yet...
I would upgrade to windows 8 if there is at least some way to disable metro without breaking the OS in some way. I like the backend changes and the changes to explorer, task manager, and a few other middleware apps.
Rakeesh_j said:
I would upgrade to windows 8 if there is at least some way to disable metro without breaking the OS in some way. I like the backend changes and the changes to explorer, task manager, and a few other middleware apps.
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Try this!
It doesn't break anything...you install this like a program and can uninstall it. You can change the start screen to look like Xp/Vista/7/other.
http://lee-soft.com/vistart/
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^^^ How about the settings though? It takes me really long to change different settings...I've had to pin so many things to the bottom screen because there's no Start.
Don't laugh now...I did try without the start and I will try again...but I have been using a mod to put start back...
I do like many of the UI changes though. Also I'm keen to seen how good my laptop battery is on it, Micro said it would be better than Windows 7...also, what do you all think of Micro Security Essentials for Windows 8? They claim it's far more advanced before with some mega anti-rootkit stuff that is not available anywhere else yet...
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What settings you want,? Almost everything you need is a right click on the bottom left corner of the screen away, instead of reverting to something that adds the start menu, just ask us, there isn't a real reason to use the start menu as everything is still there.
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I'll be installing it to a VHD for native boot. I've had a lot of problems with power management causing my laptop to shut down with the CP - so much so that I went back to running Server 08 R2 (I use my laptop for Hyper-V labs). Client Hyper-V in Windows 8 CP doesn't like my Atheros wifi anyway (why HP always puts in Atheros cards, even in its business-class machines, is beyond me).
Good..... But, the most annoying thing is that the start menu has been removed.
prime_225 said:
Good..... But, the most annoying thing is that the start menu has been removed.
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Yes! Almost anything I try to do takes longer because the central point is gone! I am determined to give the new menu system a try and not having a start button.
(I have cheated and use a mod to reinstall the start button see my link above if you're interested.)
dazza9075 said:
I find that it works much more effeciently than before, ill defo be downloading it and testing it, in fact if its possible i might try an upgrade of Win 7 too this time to see how that performs
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I probably won't bother. I did the upgrade with both the Dev preview and the Consumer preview and both times it cocked up in different ways. Give it a shot if you so please, but don't expect it to go smoothly, and do expect that you might need to do a clean install regardless
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Good..... But, the most annoying thing is that the start menu has been removed.
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The start menu hasn't been removed, the metro interface page is the start menu, you can start typing your search queries on that page as you would in the start orb in vista/7.
Hope in better version, really hope, too many problems with previous release for me
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The start menu hasn't been removed, the metro interface page is the start menu, you can start typing your search queries on that page as you would in the start orb in vista/7.
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+1 to this.
Start Search has been in Windows since Vista, and if you still don't know how to use it then there's no helping you.
I jumped from XP to 7 when one of the first developer previews became available, and couldn't be bothered to figure out the somewhat complex re-organization of the various Control Panel items. However, once I found Start Search that didn't matter at all and I was able to get stuff done faster than XP. Example: typing [Windows Key]-p-r-i-[Enter] to get to Printer Management is much faster than moving my hand off my keyboard to my mouse, mousing to the start menu, clicking Control Panel, waiting for the Control Panel window to open, finding and clicking on the category I want, and then finding and clicking on the menu item.
The only annoying thing at present is that Control Panel Start Search results in 8 are, by default, hidden in their own category that isn't focused or expanded by default, which makes it take slightly longer to get to Control Panel items via Start Search. Aside from that I honestly don't really notice the "lack" of Start Menu. I pin the handful of apps that I (almost) always have open anyways, and everything else I launch via Start Search on my keyboard.
Keep in mind this is on a non-touch desktop environment where my workflow and usage have remained 99% the same as with Windows 7. The main reason I jumped to 8 was the frankly ridiculous boot time.
A new mobo with UEFI BIOS+SSD+Windows 8=Usable desktop from cold boot in literally 10 seconds.
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+1 to this.
Start Search has been in Windows since Vista, and if you still don't know how to use it then there's no helping you.
I jumped from XP to 7 when one of the first developer previews became available, and couldn't be bothered to figure out the somewhat complex re-organization of the various Control Panel items. However, once I found Start Search that didn't matter at all and I was able to get stuff done faster than XP. Example: typing [Windows Key]-p-r-i-[Enter] to get to Printer Management is much faster than moving my hand off my keyboard to my mouse, mousing to the start menu, clicking Control Panel, waiting for the Control Panel window to open, finding and clicking on the category I want, and then finding and clicking on the menu item.
The only annoying thing at present is that Control Panel Start Search results in 8 are, by default, hidden in their own category that isn't focused or expanded by default, which makes it take slightly longer to get to Control Panel items via Start Search. Aside from that I honestly don't really notice the "lack" of Start Menu. I pin the handful of apps that I (almost) always have open anyways, and everything else I launch via Start Search on my keyboard.
Keep in mind this is on a non-touch desktop environment where my workflow and usage have remained 99% the same as with Windows 7. The main reason I jumped to 8 was the frankly ridiculous boot time.
A new mobo with UEFI BIOS+SSD+Windows 8=Usable desktop from cold boot in literally 10 seconds.
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Totally agree!
And I can't wait to try the Release Preview in June. Have some problems with my wifi drivers, but nothing hard to fix.
Demaar said:
I probably won't bother. I did the upgrade with both the Dev preview and the Consumer preview and both times it cocked up in different ways. Give it a shot if you so please, but don't expect it to go smoothly, and do expect that you might need to do a clean install regardless
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interestingly its the only way ive been able to get a couple of drivers to work, theres some changes under the hood that's really buggered up older drivers, course that might be laziness on the developers side rather than MSs fault but we shall see, im keen on trying this refresh button as well, kinda wondering how much it will gut the crap out of the all the stuff ive installed and how much is left in place, so anyway, if an upgrade doesn't work too well (and I don't think it ever has on a previously used system) ill test the refresh button as well
IDEA - wait a second...the refresh feature...does that mean that when we buy a laptop we just click refresh and reset in 5 minutes? So...we can get rid of all the bloatware inf 5 minutes? Ha
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IDEA - wait a second...the refresh feature...does that mean that when we buy a laptop we just click refresh and reset in 5 minutes? So...we can get rid of all the bloatware inf 5 minutes? Ha
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Honestly don't know, it suggests so but then its probably possible for OEMs to "edit" the files for the refresh somehow, we shall have to wait and see
still get morw things done
I still get a lot more things done than what I could on iPAD and android tablet. I appreciate x86 for the fiest time after trying win8.
I will stick to this and x86.
Please use this thread to ask questions about bugs the atrix is suffering related to the Linuxonandroid project, or to ask questions about the webtop version of this project.
For bug and fixes reporting use the development thread HERE
For general questions about Linuxonandroid use the main thread HERE
How is the develop of the dock version ??
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Will you still be using the chroot method, or some other way?
Waiting eagerly.:laugh:
Where to start...
Zac,
A wonderful thing to see this thread start so quickly. / I was the one who posted a few days ago about running Deb Wheezy based on your build guide. But I'd like to help push this effort in any way i can. (and I can always run 2 img files since I boot my image from term as opposed to the app...)
My goal reason for the purchase was to be able to bring up X, and launch VPN and RDP / With the build I hacked together I am able to do so with XFCE / VPNc and remmeia / and as far as browsers go, iceweasel was the only one that would semi work. (chrome seg faults / and web would seem to launch and then just disappear...)
When it comes to the webtop, I know there have been some posts about chaning the resolution down to 120 that seemingly puts JB into tablet mode, but I found that to be less than useful once i got into chroot. I've never been happy with the display fonts on the webtop. (once i had a config where the fonts were clear etc, but i did something and lost it... ) But the biggest hurtle there I think in part is that it seems to mirror the 960x540 res / and once you increase it you have to pan. / If you use fit to screen in the menu it will fit it to screen but then the mouse clicks don't pass through...
If you are looking for bugs - what image would be the most helpful / easiest for your to work on? (deb/ubuntu/etc) and full/small etc.
as i will load that to be more useful...
and does it matter what the base rom is. (currently I'm on epinter's CM10 rom updated yesterday) if keeping things more uniform would help I can pop something else on for the time being...
One of the main issues I was getting when running the images was the desktop being gray on the ubuntu 12.04 image like everyone else, but even after getting another desktop loaded on certain programs would not launch. When i would try to launch them from terminal I would get a seg fault. also when I tried to step through the commands in the ~/.vnc/xstartup I was getting a seg fault there as well. (So I am guessing that's why the gray screen when I VNCed. / So the second question is, when I do get a Seg Fault, is there anything additional I can provide that may aid in diagnosing the issue?
Thank you again!
James
Bluemotion said:
Will you still be using the chroot method, or some other way?
Waiting eagerly.:laugh:
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The 'normal' method is to use chroot (after all it does work very well just needs refining), when it comes to the webtop not 100% yet
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Zac,
A wonderful thing to see this thread start so quickly. / I was the one who posted a few days ago about running Deb Wheezy based on your build guide. But I'd like to help push this effort in any way i can. (and I can always run 2 img files since I boot my image from term as opposed to the app...)
My goal reason for the purchase was to be able to bring up X, and launch VPN and RDP / With the build I hacked together I am able to do so with XFCE / VPNc and remmeia / and as far as browsers go, iceweasel was the only one that would semi work. (chrome seg faults / and web would seem to launch and then just disappear...)
When it comes to the webtop, I know there have been some posts about chaning the resolution down to 120 that seemingly puts JB into tablet mode, but I found that to be less than useful once i got into chroot. I've never been happy with the display fonts on the webtop. (once i had a config where the fonts were clear etc, but i did something and lost it... ) But the biggest hurtle there I think in part is that it seems to mirror the 960x540 res / and once you increase it you have to pan. / If you use fit to screen in the menu it will fit it to screen but then the mouse clicks don't pass through...
If you are looking for bugs - what image would be the most helpful / easiest for your to work on? (deb/ubuntu/etc) and full/small etc.
as i will load that to be more useful...
and does it matter what the base rom is. (currently I'm on epinter's CM10 rom updated yesterday) if keeping things more uniform would help I can pop something else on for the time being...
One of the main issues I was getting when running the images was the desktop being gray on the ubuntu 12.04 image like everyone else, but even after getting another desktop loaded on certain programs would not launch. When i would try to launch them from terminal I would get a seg fault. also when I tried to step through the commands in the ~/.vnc/xstartup I was getting a seg fault there as well. (So I am guessing that's why the gray screen when I VNCed. / So the second question is, when I do get a Seg Fault, is there anything additional I can provide that may aid in diagnosing the issue?
Thank you again!
James
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Hey James,
Really the biggest issue with know of right now is the grey screen, and with the large ubuntu image unity not rendering correctly. So this will be the image I will be working on first.
As far as base ROMs it really shouldnt matter to much (of cause you will need a stock based ROM for webtop) I will be sticking to a stock base for now so if you where testing from a CM ROM that would be very useful to cover both main bases.
Just pointing out the issues is a good start, on Monday I plan to get cracking with it (had to push it back after not finishing unpacking and sorting my office yet) and should start on the bug squishing, and webtop version will be once I get a lapdock which should be once the device fund has finished.
2x mouse pointer
hello
I have the Atrix with the HD Dock and bluethooth mouse and keyboard.
I'm running Nottachtrix ROM which has HDMI landscape mirroring, this means I can use linuxonandroid with a mouse and keyboard in the dock. The problem is it doesn't see the mouse as a true mouse. I get two pointers, one from the VNC and one which is the bluetooth mouse.
Is there away of using the mouse normally?
thanks for any help
Jonnym
Hitting the menu button or fn-f1 should bring up the vnc program options. One of the choices is "input method" there's a few choices and you may to see what works best for you. (The options are like touch,pan,zoom and various combos if those. I haven't found the perfect one but it would the there I expect.
I've got problems on epinter CM10.
1. I can run only Debian
2. can't get su in Debian
3. sometimes, VNC says "disconnected"
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I've got problems on epinter CM10.
1. I can run only Debian
2. can't get su in Debian
3. sometimes, VNC says "disconnected"
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Ovitz - yes. This is in part why Zac has this thread too. It seems the tegra2 is a little finicky. I was only able to run Debian as well and only with xfce. I created my own image to do so. It seemed to me that the desktop manager would seg fault and then everything else was an issue. A good start may be to go in to the home did for your user and look in the .vnc hidden directory. There will be a file localhost:0.log (the number may change but should be 0 on the standard image. When you locate the file you can use "cat localhost:0.log" to view it or even better add "> filename.txt" to redirect it to a file. And then you can post it. My guess is you will see a segmentation fault in there.
*disclaimer - I'm just an excited user that has been hoping and waiting to get this worked out on the atrix and not a dev...
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Hitting the menu button or fn-f1 should bring up the vnc program options. One of the choices is "input method" there's a few choices and you may to see what works best for you. (The options are like touch,pan,zoom and various combos if those. I haven't found the perfect one but it would the there I expect.
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I tried all the input method options available on androidVNC none were that good.
I'm a bit ruined as I've just unlocked the bootloader and installed nottachtrix with faux1.3 kernal and webtop flys, no lag at all, it even runs bbc iplayer HD.
I was hoping to to find a webtop replacement, as I use it alot, so I can run ICS or Jellybean but the combination of the pointer and the complicated start up is making me hesitate. Great to have it working though big thanks to the devs.
jonnym
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I tried all the input method options available on androidVNC none were that good.
I'm a bit ruined as I've just unlocked the bootloader and installed nottachtrix with faux1.3 kernal and webtop flys, no lag at all, it even runs bbc iplayer HD.
I was hoping to to find a webtop replacement, as I use it alot, so I can run ICS or Jellybean but the combination of the pointer and the complicated start up is making me hesitate. Great to have it working though big thanks to the devs.
jonnym
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This is a product of the client. My mouse arrow floats above the remote one but anytime I click it jumps to the location and clicks as well. / I am not sure if there are "seemless" 1 to 1 clients with regards to the mouse. But there certainly are a number of vnc clients out there beyond androidvnc. I am sure for each one someone could tell you why it is the best ever or sucks....
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I tried all the input method options available on androidVNC none were that good.
I'm a bit ruined as I've just unlocked the bootloader and installed nottachtrix with faux1.3 kernal and webtop flys, no lag at all, it even runs bbc iplayer HD.
I was hoping to to find a webtop replacement, as I use it alot, so I can run ICS or Jellybean but the combination of the pointer and the complicated start up is making me hesitate. Great to have it working though big thanks to the devs.
jonnym
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I would suggest trying another vnc viewer others might handle it better
p.s Im back guys my internet finally got sorted
Can someone make a guide to make this work?...I read a lot but I cant make it..
from the (m)ATRIX...
Cocolopes said:
Can someone make a guide to make this work?...I read a lot but I cant make it..
from the (m)ATRIX...
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Sure what issues are you having
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Dude, what the heck? Are you going to post this same thing in every thread you come across? Posting the same thing multiple times is against the forum rules. You opened a new thread about this, that is more than enough.
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Sure what issues are you having
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Well..I download the img...and run the terminal...but in the vnc I cant get the gui...its just a blank screen.
from the (m)ATRIX...
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Well..I download the img...and run the terminal...but in the vnc I cant get the gui...its just a blank screen.
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Ok do you get any errors n the terminal while its booting?
balintmaci said:
ics was leaked finally so it would be nice to have a linus inside ics webtop once you get there. thanks
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Great! Well my lap dock will be here tomorrow (got held in customs) so we can get down to business
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As working for Microsoft, Specially with their windows project I found it very difficult to get a proper guidance or troubleshoot their problems when Microsoft stops supporting them.
Some of you might be aware to the fact as Windows 8 pro at 1,999/- INR price tag is coming without any support from Microsoft end and neither you have any trial option to check and decide whether u should buy it or not, It becomes utterly necessary to initiate a small contribution for the great lovers of the Microsoft.
Here what we are trying to do is to get all the answers for your beloved windows 8 and help you with the troubleshooting their causes.
I would also like to tell the moderators: Thanks for deleting my previous thread but it wasn't a direct commercialization what I was trying to do was to make available things which aren't free.
As piracy is strictly neither my policy nor this forum's so we needed to pay to Microsoft and that is what we were charging, it wasn't a product promotion it was making product available at a price which makes it nearly free.
Anyways back to the topic, folks please go ahead with the issues
I just gat the Asus Q200E and im wondering if I want to switch back to Win 7 will it be tough to get drivers or are they similar to the win 8 drivers. Ive onl used windows 8 for four days and will go on trying to get used to it but so far I dont think i will stay with it. I find myself getting to pissed off with it. I am figuring out most of it but its just not for me. Maybe when there is more support int he way of apps I will use it but its too querky for me as it is.
splatoid said:
I just gat the Asus Q200E and im wondering if I want to switch back to Win 7 will it be tough to get drivers or are they similar to the win 8 drivers. Ive onl used windows 8 for four days and will go on trying to get used to it but so far I dont think i will stay with it. I find myself getting to pissed off with it. I am figuring out most of it but its just not for me. Maybe when there is more support int he way of apps I will use it but its too querky for me as it is.
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You can always downgrade to the previous versions for the windows, though downgrading to the windows xp would be bit troublesome due to the compatibility issues but windows 7 and 8 more or less share the same architecture for the device driver compatibility so downgrading to windows 7 would not bring you major issues with ur device drivers until and unless you are having TPA module installed in your laptop
and for downgrading please do contact Microsoft for a downgrade key it is absolutely free
Thank you for your help. Much appreciated..
splatoid said:
Thank you for your help. Much appreciated..
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welcome
The only issue that i have is when I leave my computer on idle, after a,little while, system just takes over 25% of my cpu. I have a toshiba portege that originally had windows 8 release preview. Any method to prevent system from doing that?
Sent From My YP-G1 running Nebula beta 1
splatoid said:
I just gat the Asus Q200E and im wondering if I want to switch back to Win 7 will it be tough to get drivers or are they similar to the win 8 drivers. Ive onl used windows 8 for four days and will go on trying to get used to it but so far I dont think i will stay with it. I find myself getting to pissed off with it. I am figuring out most of it but its just not for me. Maybe when there is more support int he way of apps I will use it but its too querky for me as it is.
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Nice, the first post in an 8 support thread is a question about 7.
goldflame09 said:
The only issue that i have is when I leave my computer on idle, after a,little while, system just takes over 25% of my cpu. I have a toshiba portege that originally had windows 8 release preview. Any method to prevent system from doing that?
Sent From My YP-G1 running Nebula beta 1
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I have this issue with my older computer; 2.2GHz single core AMD athlon 64 (socket 939). I'd be curious as to what is causing this too, but I only have the release preview on that computer. For me, the computer idles at 25% and it just feels really sluggish, like each process in the system isn't running as efficiently as it could. Conversely, a modified XP (unofficially modified: all components but the bare minimum removed and slipstreamed updates / registry improvements) runs perfectly fine on the same hardware. I know XP is faster than 8, and especially so the modified version I use, but it's clear that something is actually not right. The DPC latency isn't terrible, but it's consistently over 1000 microseconds, vs XP which averaged ~15 microseconds. It must be a driver issue I'm guessing? The hardware is old and I wouldn't be surprised if one of the components isn't running well for whatever reason under 8.
I think the issue is true for both x64 and x86, I thought some of my RAM might have been bad so I took them out and switched to 32 bit while I was at it (in case the 32 bit drivers were better).
Actually on my new gaming rig the dpc latency averages exactly 1000 microseconds with 8, and though I suffer no performance issues, this bugs the living hell out of me, knowing I used to have 15!
link68759 said:
Nice, the first post in an 8 support thread is a question about 7.
I have this issue with my older computer; 2.2GHz single core AMD athlon 64 (socket 939). I'd be curious as to what is causing this too, but I only have the release preview on that computer. For me, the computer idles at 25% and it just feels really sluggish, like each process in the system isn't running as efficiently as it could. Conversely, a modified XP (unofficially modified: all components but the bare minimum removed and slipstreamed updates / registry improvements) runs perfectly fine on the same hardware. I know XP is faster than 8, and especially so the modified version I use, but it's clear that something is actually not right. The DPC latency isn't terrible, but it's consistently over 1000 microseconds, vs XP which averaged ~15 microseconds. It must be a driver issue I'm guessing? The hardware is old and I wouldn't be surprised if one of the components isn't running well for whatever reason under 8.
I think the issue is true for both x64 and x86, I thought some of my RAM might have been bad so I took them out and switched to 32 bit while I was at it (in case the 32 bit drivers were better).
Actually on my new gaming rig the dpc latency averages exactly 1000 microseconds with 8, and though I suffer no performance issues, this bugs the living hell out of me, knowing I used to have 15!
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I would like to add on to your post. Along with the reason you explained there is one more reason as windows 8 is programmed for giving max performance with the min power consumption, due to which at idle CPU tries to enter at low frequency stage and also if you have a very old system this issue arises as mentioned in the above post due to one more reason of HDD.
Windows 8 tries to keep alive threads running in background to save the power but due to CRC in the old HDD this loops the processor
Hey, I'm having problems sharing internet connected to VPN to my PS3. I've searched MS Answers forum and did come across this
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...indows-8/4e56a425-c685-4ab2-9b23-72b1cab4557e
But I'd like to reduce the steps of doing it to a single click like in a form of VBS or BAT file, how do I do that? And why is Windows 8 behaving like this like that guy said.
Hi dudes, I'm having the same problem as this guy over here.
Everytime I boot up, I have to quickly press "win+D" to get into desktop mode. If not it just hangs at metro start screen and I can do nth about it except "ctrl+alt+del". It just freezes there. Using windows 8 pro. Had this prob since yesterday. It was okay when I installed system updates on 15 Nov up until yesterday. I didn't make any software/hardware installations/updates in between this period of time.
Hope someone can help me out here! Thanks!
kay_kiat88 said:
Hi dudes, I'm having the same problem as this guy over here.
Everytime I boot up, I have to quickly press "win+D" to get into desktop mode. If not it just hangs at metro start screen and I can do nth about it except "ctrl+alt+del". It just freezes there. Using windows 8 pro. Had this prob since yesterday. It was okay when I installed system updates on 15 Nov up until yesterday. I didn't make any software/hardware installations/updates in between this period of time.
Hope someone can help me out here! Thanks!
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U need to refresh the system at secure boot
downloaderintruder said:
Hey, I'm having problems sharing internet connected to VPN to my PS3. I've searched MS Answers forum and did come across this
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...indows-8/4e56a425-c685-4ab2-9b23-72b1cab4557e
But I'd like to reduce the steps of doing it to a single click like in a form of VBS or BAT file, how do I do that? And why is Windows 8 behaving like this like that guy said.
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this issue was already reported by me to Microsoft developers team and they are working on it possibly with a update in December the new fix would be forced in your systems update
mean while if you wan't to create a vbs script or batch file go through these tutorials
http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/438621-batch-file-to-run-vbs-on-startup/
http://www.programmingforums.org/post196761.html
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/da/ITCG/thread/1743a39f-3a25-4d01-aa5c-af32e8e7c0ff
I'm actually having a minor cosmetic issue: taskbar is set to autohide, but sometimes it just won't hide until I restart explorer. Toggling the autohide settings or unlocking and moving it around don't help.
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I'm actually having a minor cosmetic issue: taskbar is set to autohide, but sometimes it just won't hide until I restart explorer. Toggling the autohide settings or unlocking and moving it around don't help.
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In the "good old days" applicaitons would often un-hide the Taskbar so their notification icons could show an updated status and they could ensure it would be seen. I think this method has fallen out of favor, but older applications that haven't been updated could still be sending the commands to the system to show the Taskbar. Is it possible that you have an older app in the notification area that's affecting the Taskbar as described?
Open Task Manager and Regedit.
++ on the Start Menu & select 'Exit Explorer'
or use services.msc to temporarily exit explorer by killing the service "explorer"
In Regedit, navigate to:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Streams\Desktop]
delete the value named 'Toolbars'.
In Task Manager, select 'File' -> 'New Task' -> type 'explorer' to restart
the shell.
If that doesn't do the trick, repeat deleting 'TaskbarWinXP' as well. in ur case it might be 'TaskbarWin8'
I've got a lot of old software but I haven't used any of it on my laptop. Something poorly coded may well be the issue, though this behavior is hardly exclusive to "old" software as windows 8 itself seems to actively embrace exactly this: by default the taskbar is auto hidden (this is not true of xp/vista/7) and if something isn't in the foreground and for whatever reason won't take focus, it will raise the taskbar and keep it raised until you click on said program in the taskbar.
I think it actually might be related to internet explorer and it trying to tell me that a download is finished, but gets stuck there. I'm going to see if it happens with IE running and nothing else before editing the registry.
OK I have a good question for you!
Enabled bitlocker on my C:\ drive. This killed the bootable recovery and also 8's ability to "refresh" without a DVD (it could not find the files needed).
How do I move the bootable recovery tools to the system partition? Will this fix the refresh problem? If not, how do I restore 8's ability to refresh without external media?
link68759 said:
OK I have a good question for you!
Enabled bitlocker on my C:\ drive. This killed the bootable recovery and also 8's ability to "refresh" without a DVD (it could not find the files needed).
How do I move the bootable recovery tools to the system partition? Will this fix the refresh problem? If not, how do I restore 8's ability to refresh without external media?
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have u made any changes in hardware or the system software after enabling bitlocker or ur system is running in dual boot
I am sure for one thing mere copying the bootable recovery tools to the system partition won't help.
I am also running my hp laptop with windows 8 encrypted but I am not facing any of these issues.
please elaborate your issue
meanwhile as I understand this might help u http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc771778(v=WS.10).aspx#BKMK_WhatIsRecovery
and http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee523219(v=ws.10).aspx
these also implies to windows 8
shreshth89 said:
have u made any changes in hardware or the system software after enabling bitlocker or ur system is running in dual boot
I am sure for one thing mere copying the bootable recovery tools to the system partition won't help.
I am also running my hp laptop with windows 8 encrypted but I am not facing any of these issues.
please elaborate your issue
meanwhile as I understand this might help u http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc771778(v=WS.10).aspx#BKMK_WhatIsRecovery
and http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee523219(v=ws.10).aspx
these also implies to windows 8
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I don't know how you're not having "this issue" since enabling bitlocker *forces* WinRE to be disabled, including the ability to refresh.
I disabled bitlocker because ReAgentc.exe refused to operate with bitlocker enabled. The only solution I could find was to format the HDD, recreate a bigger system partition, reinstall windows and do things from the fresh install. I suppose I could refresh my custom image from there, assuming it would even work for 8 (the instructions I found were for 7).
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I don't know how you're not having "this issue" since enabling bitlocker *forces* WinRE to be disabled, including the ability to refresh.
I disabled bitlocker because ReAgentc.exe refused to operate with bitlocker enabled. The only solution I could find was to format the HDD, recreate a bigger system partition, reinstall windows and do things from the fresh install. I suppose I could refresh my custom image from there, assuming it would even work for 8 (the instructions I found were for 7).
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these also work for for 8 as I was told in training and specifically for 8 we are still waiting for the manuals
I can't access the windows app store in my wifi network which is secured by a proxy and i have to authenticate to browse. All desktop apps works well but not the windows app store. It asks for authentication bot when i give the username and password to it, it shows "your network proxy does not work with windows store contact your administrator". what should i do to access the microsoft app store.