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I heard the standby time on this phone is awesome.
When I got it, the standby time was terrible!
How can I improve battery life?
What am I missing?
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This is my experiance.
When I bought the phone...first 3 times I fully discharged my battery and charge it over night when he was off. 3 times like that, one kind of "formating" battery process.
Now with stock ROM 1.66 WWE EastEurope...5-6 programs and 3 games,with normal use I can used him 48h, with full use of everything...24h.
In standbye over night 1%/3h dropps down...
Smartmob said:
This is my experiance.
When I bought the phone...first 3 times I fully discharged my battery and charge it over night when he was off. 3 times like that, one kind of "formating" battery process.
Now with stock ROM 1.66 WWE EastEurope...5-6 programs and 3 games,with normal use I can used him 48h, with full use of everything...24h.
In standbye over night 1%/3h dropps down...
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hey thanks! I'll try that. so just let the battery die then charge it up again and repeat?
Do a search. I average about 2.5 days of moderate use.
please don't let your battery die.
Li_ion batteries doesn't suffer from memory loss, so there is no reason to let it discharge fully. let it get low like 3-5%.
but besides that, conditioning of the battery is important on a new battery.
if you flash a new ROM, it is also important to go through cycles before it configured the correct battery capacity.
i got it a couple of days ago as well, and standby time is very impressive. batteryrarely drops over-night.
the problem is during the day with heavy usage...
rickyoon.vegas said:
please don't let your battery die.
Li_ion batteries doesn't suffer from memory loss, so there is no reason to let it discharge fully. let it get low like 3-5%.
but besides that, conditioning of the battery is important on a new battery.
if you flash a new ROM, it is also important to go through cycles before it configured the correct battery capacity.
i got it a couple of days ago as well, and standby time is very impressive. batteryrarely drops over-night.
the problem is during the day with heavy usage...
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last night I let it go down to 6% and then powered off.
Then I charged to 100% overnight and I think the life today is better than normal.
I've played a little tekken and I still have 4 filled in battery slots!
Turn off push email and limit anything that updates automatically (weather, facebook info etc..) I went from 1 day to 3 days just by doing that.
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Turn off push email and limit anything that updates automatically (weather, facebook info etc..) I went from 1 day to 3 days just by doing that.
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oh wow. so if I turn these things that update automatically, can I still hit update now?
I do that now anyway!
Yes...you can always hit "Update now" when you wanna se any new update.
Today...i phoned for cca 3min, send & recieve 20SMS, 20min playing with device...and my battery drops on 85% now...from 8h in the morning...thats in 14h 15%
Is it possible to make maybe that it won't update weather at night?
hiddengopher said:
oh wow. so if I turn these things that update automatically, can I still hit update now?
I do that now anyway!
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As smartmob says, yes. I did it like that for a few days but ended up switching most things back on (email accounts, weather, ms myphone etc.), but with longer intervals between things.
I was suprised how much of a difference turning off these things made to be honest. Turns out that my telling off from O2 (1.2GB of data in a week ) was a blessing in disguise
Smartmob said:
This is my experiance.
When I bought the phone...first 3 times I fully discharged my battery and charge it over night when he was off. 3 times like that, one kind of "formating" battery process.
Now with stock ROM 1.66 WWE EastEurope...5-6 programs and 3 games,with normal use I can used him 48h, with full use of everything...24h.
In standbye over night 1%/3h dropps down...
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where did u get 1.66 wwe east europe stock rom its not out yet
Hmm, so having read up on some posts claiming that battery life steadily improves with the HD2, I've been patient since Wed (when I got the phone, TMOUS HD2), but my battery life is still horrific. I've got every auto update off, besides weather and email every half hour. I've adjusted every other option I could think of that would drain the battery, and yet, I'm experiencing at best, a 6-7 hour usage with NO web browsing, 2-3 calls, and about 10 texts. In standby alone, my phone is dropping 2-3% every half hour it seems. Also, I've made sure that no superfluous programs are running in the background via taskmanager. Now I've read that others have had poor battery life too, but my case seems pretty bad, and don't see hope that the battery will improve much beyond this. Is it possible that my phone is faulty or that my battery's faulty? or perhaps even both?
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Hmm, so having read up on some posts claiming that battery life steadily improves with the HD2, I've been patient since Wed (when I got the phone, TMOUS HD2), but my battery life is still horrific. I've got every auto update off, besides weather and email every half hour. I've adjusted every other option I could think of that would drain the battery, and yet, I'm experiencing at best, a 6-7 hour usage with NO web browsing, 2-3 calls, and about 10 texts. In standby alone, my phone is dropping 2-3% every half hour it seems. Also, I've made sure that no superfluous programs are running in the background via taskmanager. Now I've read that others have had poor battery life too, but my case seems pretty bad, and don't see hope that the battery will improve much beyond this. Is it possible that my phone is faulty or that my battery's faulty? or perhaps even both?
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There's obviously something wrong somewhere, isn't there!
Perhaps it may be a good idea to try a different battery. It obviously means buying a new one (and not some cheap crap off ebay either!), but it's an easier option than sending your lovely new phone away for repair.
same here
especially coming from a nexus one, since day 1 i have tried all of these solutions and no success.. i did a hard reset as well just to see if that had anything to do with it and it didnt..
im at 40% and i have had the phone for 6 hours and a half, i literally sent 10 texts and called 2 people for a total of 20 minutes.. really strange..
i wish these smartphones had bb battery lives lol, but then again my bb didnt really have a huge screen or touchscreens
yeah if I can't figure out what's causing the issue, I might just go ahead and get my HD2 exchanged for a new one since I'm still within the 14 day return period for Tmobile. Too bad I already applied my screen protector! What a waste...
joefosho315 said:
Hmm, so having read up on some posts claiming that battery life steadily improves with the HD2, I've been patient since Wed (when I got the phone, TMOUS HD2), but my battery life is still horrific. I've got every auto update off, besides weather and email every half hour. I've adjusted every other option I could think of that would drain the battery, and yet, I'm experiencing at best, a 6-7 hour usage with NO web browsing, 2-3 calls, and about 10 texts. In standby alone, my phone is dropping 2-3% every half hour it seems. Also, I've made sure that no superfluous programs are running in the background via taskmanager. Now I've read that others have had poor battery life too, but my case seems pretty bad, and don't see hope that the battery will improve much beyond this. Is it possible that my phone is faulty or that my battery's faulty? or perhaps even both?
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Maybe you can try using with no sd card. Some people found out that one faulty mp3 may cause such issue. Have a look at the topic 'Extreme battery usage with non-official ROMs' under HD2 ROM Development section.
I wanted to post a link for this topic but I cannot post link due to some restrictions.
Interesting, thanks for the heads up. The thing is, I've only been running the stock factory ROM, and I haven't even uploaded any MP3's onto the device either. Anyhow, I'll give a read through and take my SD card out now to see if it helps!
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where did u get 1.66 wwe east europe stock rom its not out yet
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Evo, ovdje klikni na prvi link i u folderu 1.66 ćeš naći i EastEurope Nije službeno izašao...ali ga ima ovdje...neznam kako ali ima, ja ga instalirao i kao svaki drugi stock ROM je.
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Here, click on this link and find it in 1.66 folder. Its not officily out, but its here. I install it normaly like every other stock ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717
johncmolyneux said:
There's obviously something wrong somewhere, isn't there!
Perhaps it may be a good idea to try a different battery. It obviously means buying a new one (and not some cheap crap off ebay either!), but it's an easier option than sending your lovely new phone away for repair.
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I'm beginning to think there's something faulty with the TMO-US HD2's.
We should do some testing...
So I finally got rid of my iPhone 3G (jailbroken on T-Mobile), and got an HD2 instead. I've always liked Windows Mobile phones (and had most iterations), and since now there is finally some capacitative goodness on WM, I jumped on the opportunity.
And I'm regretting it already.
I'm hoping that somebody here has some suggestion that my two days of thread searching, and experimenting didn't cover.
The problem is, yay, .... the damn battery.
I left it on the charger from totally empty to completely full at 2AM. At 8AM, it was down to 85%. Ten minutes of reading e-mails, 74%. The thing is really not usable in this state.
Here are all the things I checked already:
It runs the latest T-Mobile ROM and radio (the one that just came out a few days ago).
Latest version of .NET (3.5.9).
No push e-mail, e-mail checking once per hour, weather checking once per hour.
Strong 3G coverage area, still tried out WMLongLife anyway (with no difference).
Did several cycles of full discharge, recharge.
Always check task manager, not leaving programs running.
Nothing else is set to go online - Live is disabled.
Screen brightness is set at 30%.
All charges done via wall charger.
I read every post I could find, especially fun the ones where people get 4 days of standby, and 6+ hours of heavy use. Short of loading the ARTEMIS ROM, I exhausted all options I could find. And really, it seems like people get decent performance from the stock ROM, so I'd like to stick with that for the moment.
What am I missing?
So frustrating. I can see how this sort of thing would make the average "just user" go run for the Android or Apple hills. No wonder we get stuck with restrictive babysitting technology, when others can't get their **** together. Spend $450 on a phone that can't make it through a half day of reasonable use? Argh!!
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
same here
i have all the same problems my batt just sucks i figure i have to just by a new one
hey man, i was like you at first too. all my mates had iphones (i dislike apple in general) i didnt want one. At the time o2 (uk) didnt stock android phones and i had a sony x1 previously. So, i got the hd2 and...like you said was disapointed.
Changed the rom to a custom one here at xda (hdowners btw) which lasts 1.5 days (heavy usage)...never seems to get 2 full days when i use it alot.
installed a few different browsers (opera 9.7 and 10)
installed morphgear (with some amazing landscape skins)
fpsece (i found time crisis to be the only actual playable game)
coreplayer
and found it a awesome phone...changed my views on it. Try some custom roms and see what you think...usually you will go mad installing themes, skins, apps...just go wild and keep the ones you really like/work in a seperate folder. Then reflash and install the best only...thats how i done it and i now love this phone
good luck, im sure the rest of the forum will give you some advice.
wayandrs: The main thing that will help is by upgrading the ROM even if it is to stock 1.66 (the latest UK one available) then you notice a large difference and even more so with some of the cooked ones. Other things to note are the WiFi, make sure it doesn't be left on (and only turn it on if you need it) it proper drains the battery. Without knowing your habbits with your phone it is very hard to come up with decent suggestions that hasn't already been posted elsewhere.
I can safely say I get 2-3 days use out of my device but then I don't use it all that much (anymore), don't forget as it is a new toy for you, you will keep playing with it seeing what it can do, this will soon die down (as it always does) then it will be better.
there must be something wrong with your device or battery.
mine lasts for about 3-4 days while middle use. i think for such a powerful and huge device, this is more than respectable.
heavy use...mh...i would say it lasts minimal 2 days, sometimes more.
did you write a complain to t-mobile?
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The battery will improve after a week or so .
Note : charging your battery the first time for only 6hours isn't much , the first time that i charged my battery i left it charging for 24 hours.
Updating to the latest ROM and Radio helps .
I have two suggestions:
1) Take your phone back to where you bought it and let them deal with it. I get at least a full day with heavy use which is to be expected from a high end device with a 4.3 inch screen. I spent a few dollars on a car charger and an extra wall charger for work, sorted.
2) If you want help on these forums leave out the useless complaining about what a rotten device you have. I think I speak for many contributors of this forum when I say that these kind of posts are getting old and wearisome. You will be more likely to get polite replies with inteligent suggestions if you simply state the problem without moaning about the horrible mistake you made in being seduced into buying an HD2. I have purchased phones that I simply did not care for. I returned them.
First step: Flash a decent ROM with most of the performance/battery tricks in there already. Many of these ROMs are constructed from the best (often most battery efficient) parts of multiple ROMS.
Touch-X, Energy, Artemis, CleanEx, etc. All are excellent (though I favour Touch-X myself for a great utility/preformance/battery balance).
Second step: Flash a good Radio that works well in your area but also works well with the ROM/has decent battery life. You'll need to research this for your chosen ROM.
I use the Korean radio in UK. Good quality/signal/battery life.
Run it for a few days, charging to full and emptying the battery before recharging to full again. Do this for 3/4 days at least.
Those changes alone got me upto 2.5 days standby and 4 hours usage (thats movie playing for 4 hours with 100% backlight in a hotel room). Good for a smartphone and longer than my friends IPhones.
Other small programs like WMLongLife, adjusting down the backlight automatically, added another .5 days to standby (though not much to active use life).
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I have two suggestions:
1) Take your phone back to where you bought it and let them deal with it. I get at least a full day with heavy use which is to be expected from a high end device with a 4.3 inch screen. I spent a few dollars on a car charger and an extra wall charger for work, sorted.
2) If you want help on these forums leave out the useless complaining about what a rotten device you have. I think I speak for many contributors of this forum when I say that these kind of posts are getting old and wearisome. You will be more likely to get polite replies with inteligent suggestions if you simply state the problem without moaning about the horrible mistake you made in being seduced into buying an HD2. I have purchased phones that I simply did not care for. I returned them.
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Yes, sorry I fell back on the usual retoric.
I do wonder though if when someone buys a new 'Toy' that they dont hammer it to start with for the 'joy' and never think of the consequences.
I like you, no matter which phone I own, being a businessman and needing maximum performance have a charger at my bedside (the phone is my alarm) and also connect it to the car charger when driving.
I wonder if many of the people that move up from a basic Nokia phone (or similar that can last a week) realise what is involved in powering all the functions they require?
Please don't quote iPhone as it dunt do half!
try elegencia rom v 8.5 and reply back
I use the stock rom 1.66 from the beginning and check my mail automatically every 30 minutes. Now and then I check some websites and download cabs and use HSDPA/3G and WIFI if available. My battery is 100% in the morning and 70 percent in the evening. Not bad at all. The first 12 times I fully charched the battery during the night.
I use Bandswitch, which automatically disables my connection within 30 seconds. This is the most important and useful tip! You don't need a custom ROM to solve the battery drain issue.
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try elegencia rom v 8.5 and reply back
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+1 - Lovely ROM
it looks like you have not a windows phone before
Thanks.
Thanks for the ROM suggestions. I'll try a few more days of deep cycling the battery to see if that helps - if not, I guess I'll try a custom ROM.
And yea, to those 'get a life' and 'don't complain about Windows phones' posts, whatever. I've owned Windows Mobile phones since they first came out, and it's just frustrating that the out-of-the box usability hasn't gotten any better to this day. Looks at the cool people that actually manage some constructive feedback - they are who make XDA forums great. Thanks guys!
A new 1200 battery is 15 pounds (the official from HTC) as a backup. I personaly have bought the extended battery 2400 and it is great. The default battery doesn't last the full day for me because I use it constinuosly as mp3 player , brownsing and video player. I mean, you have options.
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I'll be trying the Elegancia ROM.
That is, once I find a ROM with 2.8 SPL that works on my 1024 version of the H2, to reflash mine so I can get HSPL to work to flash.
I've always really liked Windows Mobile for its flexibility and massive base of developers ... on the flip side, I've been screwing around with this thing for several days now, trying to get a phone that can last through a day. Ahhh, the bittersweet experience that is WM.
I get at most 2 days combined cycle out of my stanard battery and i've had my phone for about 10 days. It came with the stock 1.66 rom but i've run through the tips and tweaks threads so the phone ui is faster and a bit more usable. One of those is a replacement task manager that disables smart minimize in favour of actually closing programs. I've also set the weather software to update every 3 hours because tbh you don't need it to be any more often than that. I do use the wifi alot but i do turn it off when i'm not using the phone. i have also noticed with my phone is if the wifi is connected to an access point for more than 5 minutes it will automatically disable the 3G connection and turn it back on when the wifi is disabled.
for the first couple of days i was completely discharging the battery and then charging it for about 12 hours. this seems to have been the most beneficial. i also will not put it on charge unless it really needs it.
hi, from experience, 3G medium usuage.. 4/5 a day.
If you disconect the 3G connection when not using, it will help.
And of course if you go on GSM instead, one day is not difficult..
battery killer :
1) constant 3G activity
2) Watching video. Worst, video on 3G !
3) games, especially the 3Ds ones or high on processing like the Tower simulation game.
4) bright screen
5) bluetooth
From my experience, from a fresh flash, my battery improves as I get to use it longer and longer.
take a look at your data sync like weather and stock and also check the social networking sync.
I found my battery life is around 8-10 hours for minimal usage using WP7
specification using
hspl 2.08
radio newest one
sdcard 2GB sandisk
gprs always on using 2G
location turn off
using light background
sync email every hours
so I wanna compare with you guys here who using wp7, is there any one who can get battery life more than 12 hours or so?
with Android I can get more than 24 hours for minimal usage ( call, sms, browsing ).
is it better to reflash/hardreset wp7 again?
Well, I have been using it for about a week now and it is bearable, but pretty and extremely fluid
Regarding battery, I only use wifi, so I have 3g off and I surf about 30 min a day with it.
30 min phone calls
15 SMS
Update Gmail and Facebook about 4 times a day.
Play a bit with the phone and it lasts me from 8AM to about midnight that is when I need to charge it again.
So about 16h.
The worst thing about this is that the camera is not really working (all the pictures I've taken do not look as sharp as with the other OS).
Johev said:
Well, I have been using it for about a week now and it is bearable, but pretty and extremely fluid
Regarding battery, I only use wifi, so I have 3g off and I surf about 30 min a day with it.
30 min phone calls
15 SMS
Update Gmail and Facebook about 4 times a day.
Play a bit with the phone and it lasts me from 8AM to about midnight that is when I need to charge it again.
So about 16h.
The worst thing about this is that the camera is not really working (all the pictures I've taken do not look as sharp as with the other OS).
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I am not sure about wifi I barely using wifi, always connect with 2g connection... camera sih ok with me since I am never using camera ( only once or twice a week)
just found battery life is kinda disappointing when using WP7.
I consider if my sdcard is not compatible or what. hofully some one here can help me, if mostly can say then can get more than 15 hours so I am pretty sure I need to reflash/hardreset or even change my sdcard to get better result of battery life
From the reviews of some other devices on WP7 etc, it seems as if the battery life is an issue in general as is the case with most of the smart phones using these OS's in general -
I've been using it now for a week or so and it fit's my needs perfectly.
I've found only 2 bugs with it mentioned elsewhere by others and even they're nothing worth noting...
Camera doesnt work correctly (i hardly ever use it)...and there's issues with loudspeaker volume (workaround - set at 3) ... other than that nothing...
I'm finding after a full day of use, (wifi and gps switched on) from 8am, an hour or so of music, 15-20 minutes gaming, 4-5 calls and several texts, emails, facebook etc, i have around a quarter battery left at midnight.
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Paul
Battery life is surely not amazing, but for me it's acceptable. maybe 1-2 hrs less than WM6.5. I make it from 8 am to 7 pm with 30-40 min calls. 3G always on. 1 hr IE on 3G and some 30 min. 3D gaming.
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Battery life is surely not amazing, but for me it's acceptable. maybe 1-2 hrs less than WM6.5. I make it from 8 am to 7 pm with 30-40 min calls. 3G always on. 1 hr IE on 3G and some 30 min. 3D gaming.
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so its 11 hours for average usage.
I just wondering if sdcard class with affect battery life? since wp7 is kinda like raid0 which cannot be separated between internal memory and sdcard.
hopefully with higher class of sdcard if will affect battery life for wp7
I have been using it since last week Thursday and its been excellent for me, I even think the battery seems better than on android. Its been my main phone since. The still camera is the only issue I have. I think iPhone has a worthy competitor in WP7.
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Battery life is surely not amazing, but for me it's acceptable. maybe 1-2 hrs less than WM6.5. I make it from 8 am to 7 pm with 30-40 min calls. 3G always on. 1 hr IE on 3G and some 30 min. 3D gaming.
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judging by you're avatar 7pm is probably close to your bed time anyway
I'm really enjoying wp7, running for 5days now and mostly smooth.
Some apps like IE stag occasionally and some times the touch screen seems a little unreponsive mainly in settings screens.
Obviously not the easiest of OS's to switch in and out of like android due to the sd card, and not being able to charge the battery when the phone is off is an issue.
Main concerns but tolerable:
Not being able to sync directly with outlook (gmail workaround)
Battery drain is excessive (though i'm not usually far from pc->usb charge
Lack of software (obviously, but also finding the good from the bad)
Do not forget the sms receiving issue people. Been using for three days straight and all working fine but suddenly sms seems to stop coming.....and by that I mean it would take hours to recieve or send an sms and when it finaly does come...no notification and no home tile count. And trust me,,,this is not sometning to do with the settings.
battery life is really bad for me.
on a 10 hour shift on android i can finish with 40-50% battery left with full data sync on
on wp7 i had to charge my phone at work ( i wasnt sure of exact battery % because i couldnt find this function
im going to dual boot wp7 and android cause wp7 is cool for showing off haha
Works great for me, basic things work great and battery life is ok. I can do a full day with and i do play around make some calls and sms. For me it's as good as android from nand. Too bad camera doesn't work correctly and multitouch.
It works awesome, though I have the problem here, that the monthly internet package from Vodafone Romania isn't too big, and I found out that this is a 3G hungry OS. (180MB in 3 days, and that is NO downloading of apps!)
That and only because of that, I have to consider rolling back to Android.
Other than that, WP7 is one hell of a mobile OS, that runs very nice on our HD2 phones and would be good for daily use
I'm very satisfied with this first WP7 release for the Leo. Almost everything is working fine. Except for some bugs which are a little annoying (as mentioned before):
- managing the volume (it's very loud! the alarm in the morning, too...)
- green pictures with camera-flash
- slow app installation (compared to the HTC Mozart it is veeeery slow)
Unfortunately there is no possibility to set up the days and hours for syncing with my exchange (that was possible with ActiveSync in WM6.5). Actually that's not a bug from this DFT-release, but from the WP7 itself. Maybe this will be added with the announced official update.
Finally, I don't think that I'll turn over to WM6.5 or Android again. The design, useability and flawless UI of WP7 on the HD2 is really nice.
thats kinda weird some people said they have battery life some doesn't...
I thin its related with sdcard.. bad flash probably.
Look at other thread some peeps suggested change radio rom, try 2.12 and 2.14 still got huge battery drain, even with data connection turn off
hendr1k said:
thats kinda weird some people said they have battery life some doesn't...
I thin its related with sdcard.. bad flash probably.
Look at other thread some peeps suggested change radio rom, try 2.12 and 2.14 still got huge battery drain, even with data connection turn off
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I have 2.14 radio and after all day I had yesterday 30% left. Then I charged it to maximum and left it to see how battery will drain over night, and it didn't even move. So for me battery life is better than in android.
ok that kinda weird hopefully reflash WP7 with good sdcard will give better battery life.
hendr1k said:
I found my battery life is around 8-10 hours for minimal usage using WP7
specification using
hspl 2.08
radio newest one
sdcard 2GB sandisk
gprs always on using 2G
location turn off
using light background
sync email every hours
so I wanna compare with you guys here who using wp7, is there any one who can get battery life more than 12 hours or so?
with Android I can get more than 24 hours for minimal usage ( call, sms, browsing ).
is it better to reflash/hardreset wp7 again?
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I've had it running, without a reboot for the last four days. I haven't really noticed horrible battery life but then again i am not of it half as much as the Android OS...mostly b/c the apps are GARBAGE and the games are SAD.
I have wifi active at all times, 3g data is really slow for some reason.
It is usable but i would not say fully functional even with reg hack and Microsoft activation hack.
Volume sucks! Way too loud even with min volume and gps sync is all out of whack...map application looks awesome with the real street view but good luck getting to a destination!
Camera is also GARBAGE but other than the sound the 720p video looks great
I really like the simplicity of the OS layout and the fluidity of everything but there needs to be more usability and functionality before i fully adopt although this have been a good learning experience and test for whether or not i want to get the HD7 or just another HD2 for my next phone
Going back to android for now...perhaps there will be a NAND ROM soon that has at least 95% functionality without having to call and lie to MS to get codes.
I love WP7!!!
Had some battery issues to begin with, but changed radio to 2.14 and then hard reset. For the last 3 days I've had nearly 30 hours on battery. On par with Android. Android is superb as a customizeable OS. So many things you can change.
WP7 is a phone OS, pure and simple. I love the simple interface. Not much you can customize, but the speed more than makes up for it. Messaging is particularly fantastic.
Don't use a light background!!! Use a dark one (black basically). As the screen has to fully light the pixels for a white background (value of 255), using black (dark, value of 0) it doesn't have to light them as much, so the screen uses less power.
Still a few bugs in WP7, also some missing features, but nothing that is a 'show stopper'.
I'm sticking with WP7 and looking forward to the 'official' update....
I'm on Twilight DFC ( last version with htc hub )
Rom use : 2.14.50
HSPL : 2.08
card SD : micro SD sandisk 4Go class 4
Magldr : 1.3
Use : no really ( check my mails every 3 hours , 20 sms per day , little internet with 3g.
Désactivated : my 3g, wifi, localisation for a better battery level. My emails are checking just every hour by option.
Results : 100% at 8 A.m , 20% at 7 P.m ...
The battery are very drain...
with rom 2.15.50 it is the same
rom i have use : xmob 1.3 / 1.4 , moonlight ... and.. it is the same problem.
Please help me .
Same issue here. It's about 60mA battery drain, guess something wrong in power management.
You've most likely forgot to disable bluetooth completley. There is a 60mA BT bug in some roms.
bluetooth is off, but the battery running time is still bad. What Radio Rom is definitely the best ?
How to completely turn off bluetooth? It was turned off in settings
Yes, Settings/Bluetooth disable
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bluetooth is off, but the battery running time is still bad. What Radio Rom is definitely the best ?
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2.12.50 with the battery tweak found in the development subforum gives me over a day with moderate to heavy usage (games, 3G internet, 3 e-mail [email protected] min, 30 min. voice calls). In standby (only mail sync on) I get 10-12% battery drop over the night.
Wait for a few recharge cycles and it will settle. At first I got 12-15 hrs. After 2 weeks it got MUCH better.
is your batter being charged propperly?
The battery tweak sets the full level for the battery.
you must first charge the battery to its maximum level then run the reg tweak
Now here is the problem, WP7 on our HD2 will not charge the full batter all of the time. Quite often you must charge until it goes green, then reboot and charge so more, keep repeating until the HTC battery tool reports the ACR level roughly the same as the FULL level.
to give you an idea
Ive just charged my phone over night, it says its full, it wont charge any more but the tool reports it only half full, even though the indicator shows full. But my battery life will drop like a rock and may report being empty when its not.
If i restart my phone just now the tool shows a jump in ACR value to about 800mAh it then allows me to charge the remaining 400mAh.
or you might find that restarting it shows the battery is full in both indicator and ACR value
The point is, after a full charge, restart the phone because until you do the phone doesnt appear to know whats goig on wth the battery, im guessing this is something to do with the fact that the HD7 and HD2 DO have some small differences inside.
I think what frustrates me more than anything else is the sheer unpredictability of my battery performance. I have done all the tweaks and installed the battery tool but overnight in the past week I have seen the battery go down as low as about 15-20% and remain as high as 80% with a range in between (estimated values, of course).
I'm now going to try to look at my data usage to see if anything is causing the radio to work extra hard some nights and not on others.
If it was at least consistent I could then start thinking about Radio versions, management strategies and the like but while it's so variable it a bit hard to get scientific with it...!
indeed it is a bit of a pain but remember we were never ment to have this ROM.
remember though it might be unpredictable because its not full, its not as easy as it sems to get a full charge, even when htc battery tool and MS tells us its full it might not be, persistant restart and charge usually gets it done
It is definitely battery problem exists! Don't try to hide it because all that stuff you are talking here to solve that is not working! Test in 2G network without any BT and WiFi during 24h failed, battery completely drained without reason.
no one is saying there isnt a problem, there are seveal problems
The big one is you shouldnt have WP7 on your HD2, our device was not supported, you cant say the HTC HD7 is the same because it is not, largely it is yes, but internally it has differences, one of these differences seem to be the controler for the battery
To be clear, WP7 cant report the correct battery level without tweaking it, and in some instances WP7 will not completely charge your phone but it may appear full there by leading to quick battery drainage
I second that. I think it's the matter of hit and miss. I have two hd2s, and one of them has ****e battery life. Both are using the same rom, same radio, same battery optimisation technique btw.
I bought an HD7 cause of the battery drainage of WP7 HD2, multi touching, downloading from market e.t.c!
I know HD2 is better than HD7 because you can have everything but... WP7 is my thing ya know??? So if you guys liked WP7 just go out there and buy your selves an official WP7 device! Believe me i l.o.v.e it and i will stick with it!
Battery life on HD7 is stunning! I have it running 3 days now and now i have 20% with moderate use..
arkatis said:
I bought an HD7 cause of the battery drainage of WP7 HD2, multi touching, downloading from market e.t.c!
I know HD2 is better than HD7 because you can have everything but... WP7 is my thing ya know??? So if you guys liked WP7 just go out there and buy your selves an official WP7 device! Believe me i l.o.v.e it and i will stick with it!
Battery life on HD7 is stunning! I have it running 3 days now and now i have 20% with moderate use..
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Worse recommendation I ever saw. When first android port was released, there was huge battery drainage too but now I'm using android on my HD2 with 3 days batt life and I didn't buy new android device. So it can be fixed without wasting money.
In my opinion..Android is boring.. I know that battery life on Android HD2 is awesome but the OS is very Boring... When i flashed WP7 i said "this will be my daily OS" (i love simplicity..)... At that time i needed to charge my battery daily and i was a little bored of the hard keys and battery and stuff like that! (also i had some lost pixels on the screen) Didn't wanted to go back to Android though! So why do i have to keep my boring HD2??? Since i wanted to run WP7 as a daily OS i got my new HD7 (for 150Euro)
I am Just telling my opinion and i hope you agree with me...
I am a tech lover guy...Yesterday was iPhone, after that HD2,today HD7 and God knows what else for tomorrow!
where to get an hd7 for 150,- euro????? i'll going out and get two of them, too
for me wp7 is boring until now. almost no customization.. when you want to turn off data or wifi or bt you have to navigate through 2 or 3 menus.
and it is slow even though there are beautiful animations. (contacts open in about 2 seconds and in android it is about 0,5 seconds)
i am all for simplicity as long as you have all functions and speed.
btw battery is enough for 1 day with moderate use but forget using it from early morning and a long partynight
(camera issue still a bummer)
im all up for opinions on here....so ill give me own
Im sorry but i have not seen a more fluid and resposive device then the HD2 with WP7, iphone, android on various models even WP7 on other devices dont appear as quick as mine but thats the luck of the draw with using our HD2 some folk have had issues others think its amazing. contacts for me, around 200ish load instantly
luck of the draw
battery life is a concern still as is the camera other than that all is good
arkatis said:
In my opinion..Android is boring.. I know that battery life on Android HD2 is awesome but the OS is very Boring... When i flashed WP7 i said "this will be my daily OS" (i love simplicity..)... At that time i needed to charge my battery daily and i was a little bored of the hard keys and battery and stuff like that! (also i had some lost pixels on the screen) Didn't wanted to go back to Android though! So why do i have to keep my boring HD2??? Since i wanted to run WP7 as a daily OS i got my new HD7 (for 150Euro)
I am Just telling my opinion and i hope you agree with me...
I am a tech lover guy...Yesterday was iPhone, after that HD2,today HD7 and God knows what else for tomorrow!
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I'm not agree. You didn't notice that "super simple" WM7 consuming more energy than "boring" android? And what a point of this?
You know what, rich people always bored. I got my first iphone (3gs) just 3 month ago, and HD2 was like a gift from my friends in America.
I wouldn't even say I use my phone frequently. When I used the miui or however it's spelt rom I would have 60 percent to 30 remaining each day. On gingerbread? I'm down to 15 percent every day and every night my phone has shut off due to lack of battery.
Isn't there any rom with excellent battery life? That's all I want, I use my phone for tethering.
i put CM7-RC2 on my device yesterday and it's the best battery life i've ever gotten.
Gb battery life owns, u got something else going on
No he doesn't, i've measured religiously since the original nexus shipments and this is by far the worst
My battery was really bad but now it seems to last me 10hrs & up which is weird for a phone to last me that long. I really think theirs an app or bug running the battery crazy I don't use any task managers. Their was a thread somewhere saying to run your phone on recovery mode and to press on the reboot/restart and battery get better I did that so maybe it does work but I highly doubt it.
I can vouch for poor battery too. I am on CM7 RC2 and I can't even make it through a day with light use. By light use, I mean practally not using the phone at all.
My battery life seems to be better than ever. Some 10-20 percentage units more left in the evenings all down the line.
Edit: Stock GB, no task managers.
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My battery life seems to be better than ever. Some 10-20 percentage units more left in the evenings all down the line.
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I agree. Gingerbread has been nothing short of AMAZING for my battery life. The battery life is so good now that I stopped using my spare battery altogether!
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I wouldn't even say I use my phone frequently. When I used the miui or however it's spelt rom I would have 60 percent to 30 remaining each day. On gingerbread? I'm down to 15 percent every day and every night my phone has shut off due to lack of battery.
Isn't there any rom with excellent battery life? That's all I want, I use my phone for tethering.
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Did you happen to do an Update or a full install when you got gingerbread?
Some suggest that it's due to the update process.. so you might want to try a full install:
http://android.clients.google.com/p...b119f8.signed-passion-ota-102588.656099b1.zip
Remember to wipe your cache first..
What i noticed is taht custom roms use more battery than stock rom. this is for me i don't say that it is like this for everyone. But with gigerbread i got the best battery life. i also think using apps from SD uses also a lot of battery life, but again i have no other choice to low on memory.
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I had the same problem. I am on stock gb.
Just set wifi sleep policy to never. It will last 2 days after that. It is definetly a bug.
Seems to be a real mixed bag with GB on N1's. Lots of people saying "better battery" many others, myself included, reporting much worse. For me, I experienced very poor battery life right from updating to the stock GB using the singned passion .zip file. Even did a factory reset, and only reinstalled my daily used apps and it made little difference, then I went back onto a MIUI rom for a few days and battery life was wonderful again.
Then early this week I flashed to CM7 RC2, and for two days battery life was the worst I've ever had.
Had been seeing a few comments on different forums of people who had the same problem swearing black and blue that after they changed the wifi sleep policy to "always on" their battery life improved dramatically on Gingerbread.
I know if sounds backwards, and that is why I was sceptical for ages, but last night I made the change to see if it would make a difference for me today and all I can say is WOW!!! Phone had a real test today as I started work really early. As of right now the phone has been off charge for 16 hours.
Half a dozen or more voice calls, minimal text, my usual wifi and 3g data, about 10 min of streaming video over wifi and about 1/2 hour in total running Navigation.
There is no way in hell my phone would have done all that and even lasted me 8 hours prior to changing the wifi sleep policy - so I think there is definitely something in it.
As for the ppl who aren't noticing bad battery, maybe they already had theirs set this way - or maybe it's an issue only effecting certain batches of devices (like the wifi reconnect issue which seemed to be pretty common pre froyo)
it /WAS/ terrible at first. Really, really dire, but it's back to what it used to be, even better now perhaps.
To the OP, do you have WIFI turned on still? I used to leave it turned on and it didn't ever knock down battery as it was going to sleep and not coming back, so wasn't a drain. GB appears to have fixed this, and it was staying on, thrashing the battery.
Turning it off and turning it on as needed only, battery life is now fine.
Do you have WIFI Turned on? Bluetooth? For now, to try and test what's happening, turn off 3g, wifi, bluetooth, automatic date/time sync, and JUST use it as a phone for a day. See what % you're at at the end of the day.
Then we can take it from there.
But I'd be pretty certain that it's wifi related, in that it's now working as it should be, we just got used to it being broken before.
My phone on cm7 rc2 has worse battery than I used to have with wildmonks kernel and cm6.1. Yesterday, the phone was barely used until 8 o'clock at night. It was at 45 percent. After an hour medium use, its gotten down to 23 so I had to plug in the phone....the easiest fix? Keep a charger In the car!
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Using stock Gingerbread and I can say that my battery life is decent, better than Froyo for sure. The phone lasts longer than 16 hours and I use bluetooth to listen to music for 1.5 hrs on my commute home. By the time I get home after a long day (8pm'ish), I still have about 20 to 30% left.
I have no wifi no bluetooth no gps and a dim screen.
Tis is seriously crappy battery life.
Does anyone think they can link me to a good miui rom. For me, it seems that gb just wont work.
I am running stock gb then i flashed the root and my boot loader is unlocked.
bohlool said:
I had the same problem. I am on stock gb.
Just set wifi sleep policy to never. It will last 2 days after that. It is definetly a bug.
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Listen to this person!
For some reason, since 2.3.3, if you have your Wifi policy to sleep when the screen is off, Android will rip through your battery. You'll notice Android OS taking all the battery on the status page.
Set the sleep policy to never and you get better battery life again. Turn off Wifi manually when you're not using it, even better. Until somebody fixes this bug, I guess it's the only workaround we've got.
More info: check issue 15057 on code.google.com - cant post link due to the newness of this account.
Same here on shorter battery life my nexus one as well post gingerbread ota... I will look into detailed system processes and try to find out why...
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bohlool said:
I had the same problem. I am on stock gb.
Just set wifi sleep policy to never. It will last 2 days after that. It is definetly a bug.
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Will give it a try on this, mine is set to turn off when screen is off.
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Log into latitude and log out. Every time there is a map update it defaults to being a battery draining monster. But in essence. Something to do with maps link to latitude (which i don't even use) breaks my phones battery life.