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Hello, I heard T-Mobile launched their new HSDPA network yesterday. I had a mytouch on the old 3G network and after doign a speed test i was getting ~110KB/s (thats kiloBYTES). On the about phone page in settings it showed me that my mytouch was on UMTS. (I live in NYC btw)
Now I have a Nexus One and T-Mobile has rolled out their new network. On my Nexus One about phone page it shows that my network type is now indeed HSDPA and no longer UMTS. HOWEVER im still getting the EXACT SAME SPEEDS as I did before on UMTS. What is up with this?
Ouch. Hopefully they'll work out the kinks in NYC. I almost always get around 3mbit in Philadelphia since they rolled out their new network.
melterx12 said:
Hello, I heard T-Mobile launched their new HSDPA network yesterday. I had a mytouch on the old 3G network and after doign a speed test i was getting ~110KB/s (thats kiloBYTES). On the about phone page in settings it showed me that my mytouch was on UMTS. (I live in NYC btw)
Now I have a Nexus One and T-Mobile has rolled out their new network. On my Nexus One about phone page it shows that my network type is now indeed HSDPA and no longer UMTS. HOWEVER im still getting the EXACT SAME SPEEDS as I did before on UMTS. What is up with this?
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I also did not notice an increase in speed in Des Moines, IA. I think they need to increase the backend support of the network. I am pretty sure the towers are enabled for HSDPA around here...
They didn't launch any HSDPA network, you we're all misled by some moron that completely mistook a tweet from TMOUSA.
except my settings > about phone > status > network type is showing that im on HSDPA now...
melterx12 said:
except my settings > about phone > status > network type is showing that im on HSDPA now...
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Their network has been mostly HSDPA for a while now. It's still not 7.2mbps HSDPA. Any UMTS ("3G") are going to HSDPA (3.5G). Those are fairly hard to find, most of the network is already HSDPA.
I tested by navigating to www.mobilespeedtest.com. Using the app or a small test file doesn't show an accurate speed. At that site, I was able to choose a 5mb test file, and my peak speed was close to 4100kbps.
In a nutshell, I think that most tests use too small of a test file and the speed is still accelerating when the test ends.
my mytouch showed me 2 weeks ago that i was on UMTS, it literally said UMTS on that field. now it is showing HSDPA.
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I tested by navigating to www.mobilespeedtest.com. Using the app or a small test file doesn't show an accurate speed. At that site, I was able to choose a 5mb test file, and my peak speed was close to 4100kbps.
In a nutshell, I think that most tests use too small of a test file and the speed is still accelerating when the test ends.
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That site isn't accurate in the slightest, why people keep using it is beyond me. Use the speedtest app in the market. Some parts of Philly and NYC have 7.2Mbps HSPA already, maybe a few other places but it is NOT on a nationwide or even widespread scale.
heygrl said:
That site isn't accurate in the slightest, why people keep using it is beyond me. Use the speedtest app in the market. Some parts of Philly and NYC have 7.2Mbps HSPA already, maybe a few other places but it is NOT on a nationwide or even widespread scale.
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Hmmm... well I guess I'm wrong then. But why would there be such a large disparity? With the speed test app from the Market, I'd get up to 700ish kbps... That's a HUGE difference, and I don't think that mobilespeedtest.com would be off by that much, would it?
I'm in Philly. I used to get around 400kbps on average and never more than 800kbps. About a month ago it dramatically increased. I generally see anywhere from 2.5Mbps to 3.2Mbps download speeds using the speedtest.net application from the market. I just ran the test and got a 103ms ping, 3.74Mbps down, and 1.08Mbps up (a bit faster than usual). I'd post a screenshot but am unable to upload from the android browser.
Strangely enough in the settings it shows I am on UMTS, not HSDPA. Not sure why my speeds would have increased so dramatically if I'm still on UMTS, but they have. I'm sure other users in Philadelphia have had a similar experience.
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I'm in Philly. I used to get around 400kbps on average and never more than 800kbps. About a month ago it dramatically increased. I generally see anywhere from 2.5Mbps to 3.2Mbps download speeds using the speedtest.net application from the market. I just ran the test and got a 103ms ping, 3.74Mbps down, and 1.08Mbps up (a bit faster than usual). I'd post a screenshot but am unable to upload from the android browser.
Strangely enough in the settings it shows I am on UMTS, not HSDPA. Not sure why my speeds would have increased so dramatically if I'm still on UMTS, but they have. I'm sure other users in Philadelphia have had a similar experience.
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UMTS has a max speed of 3.6Mbps, so they probably have all of the backhaul in place for HSPA (Fiber) but it hasn't been switched up yet..
mhaedo said:
Ouch. Hopefully they'll work out the kinks in NYC. I almost always get around 3mbit in Philadelphia since they rolled out their new network.
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This is different. Philadelphia is currently the only test market that has HSDPA+. The rest of the country got HSDPA which is much slower.
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This is different. Philadelphia is currently the only test market that has HSDPA+. The rest of the country got HSDPA which is much slower.
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Didn't realize we were the only market getting HSDPA+ so far. Strange that my cliq still tells me UMTS, but I guess as heygrl noted it's in place but hasn't been switched on yet. Can't wait until they do, because by then my Nexus One will have arrived
All of philly isn't HSPA+, only certain areas. The phone should be showing HSPA regardless, and if it isn't the tower is still UMTS (limited to 3.6mbps)
In Seattle, Fremont specifically, my Nexus One shows HSDPA in the status. Once I head a bit north outside Seattle proper, it shows UMTS.
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Kermee
used to average 600 kbps in austin on my mytouch 3g using the speed test app... with my nexus one and the upgraded network i'm averaging 1 mbps, or roughly 1000 kbps downstream
Everyone,
T-Mobile is running HSPA in the entire network. Why your phone states UMTS versus HSPA is beyond me. Now, Philidalphia is the current TEST market for HSPA+, not to be confused with HSPA. HSPA + is capable of much much faster speeds.
Also, like the previous preson stated, only parts of Philidalphia have HSPA+ launched.
To add to all of that, in order for your phone to recieve faster speeds the cell site requires more bandwidth. As T-Mobile is continuing to expand their 3G netowrk, they slowly adding more bandwidth (more T-1's) to the 3G sites so some area's will see higher speeds and again, Philidalphia is a HSPA+ test market so those sites that have that enabled will surely have more bandwidth ran to it.
Lastly for clerification:
HSPA (High Speed Packet Access) capable of 14Mbps download
HSPA+ (Evolved High Speed Packet Access) capable of 54Mbps download
HSDPA just adds a D for Download (High Speed Download Packet Access)
HSUPA just adds a U for Upload (High Speed Upload Packet Access)
Weird.
In areas where I have a strong signal (Max Bars) and the Nexus One shows "HSDPA" I get about 2.2-2.5 Mbps down using the Ookla App.
When I'm in areas where I have a strong signal (Max Bars) and the Nexus One shows "UMTS" I get about 1.2 Mbps down using the Ookla App.
All tested using the same test server.
*Shrug*
Cheers,
Kermee
Uhg! Okay maybe its me but I think people are not understanding Kb KB Mb MB. Kilobits, KiloBytes, Megabit, MegaByte.
If your Tmobile data connection is a 7.2Mb connection, you should be downloading at 921.6KB(KiloBytes) a second, if you go by kb(kilobits) it should be going 7372.8kb a second. So speed test is wrong or tmobile is jipping us the speed we should be going.
While I know similar stuff has been posted many times, I just have a question. When I had a Palm Pre and using homebrew I remember this unthrottle patch that basically made your Pre go faster than the horrendous 64kilobytes a sec. So does anyone know if the 4G is being throttled? My pre would get almost 2mbps using speedtest while my evo gets .3mbps. Now while using Pdanet I get .85mbps at the most. I haven't downloaded anything but my Pre at the fastest was downloading files at almost 300kilobytes a second. Thanks for any help
My best 3g test on my EVO was 1.8mb down and 566kb up.
You honestly can't really get a "consistant" speed out of 3g. 3g works in bursts, and when you wifi tether or tether in general you lose speed, for the most accurate speeds run a speed test on the phone via the market apps. Also the more people on a 3g network the crappier it is, CDMA also has slower 3g speeds since voice and data are on the same band. 4g is being throttled to 6mbps at the moment because sprint doesn't want to overload the network until its fully tested under heavy end user use. (maybe AT&T shoulda done this becasue their 3g network is crashing and burning horribly).
Thanks. I never thought of looking in the market for speedtest apps.
best here in NJ was 2.2 down about 800 up
I've never seen my EVO pass 1.2 - my Touch Pro 2 consistently hits 2+
Well the fastest I've seen was 310kb/s down 109kb/s up after using the app. I prefer using kb/s since thats what it shows when I download stuff. I guess this is faster than my Pre and definitely faster than my crappy dsl
ilovemytilt1 said:
Well the fastest I've seen was 310kb/s down 109kb/s up after using the app. I prefer using kb/s since thats what it shows when I download stuff. I guess this is faster than my Pre and definitely faster than my crappy dsl
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Faster than your DSL? wow your DSL should at least be equal. Probably at the end of the distance to the Telco or closest Router or VRack. Should have your DSL Co check your line.
eck0728 said:
You honestly can't really get a "consistant" speed out of 3g. 3g works in bursts, and when you wifi tether or tether in general you lose speed, for the most accurate speeds run a speed test on the phone via the market apps. Also the more people on a 3g network the crappier it is, CDMA also has slower 3g speeds since voice and data are on the same band. 4g is being throttled to 6mbps at the moment because sprint doesn't want to overload the network until its fully tested under heavy end user use. (maybe AT&T shoulda done this becasue their 3g network is crashing and burning horribly).
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Where do you have the source for 4G being throttled to 6? I heard 10/1.
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Faster than your DSL? wow your DSL should at least be equal. Probably at the end of the distance to the Telco or closest Router or VRack. Should have your DSL Co check your line.
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Its what Verizon offers in my area. I get 890 or something kbps down its either that or 1.6mbps which with a little more money I could get more with comcast. We need more internet competition or for companies to step up their game because comcast is fast but throttling and the whole area getting a set pool of bandwidth vs slow but always the same speeds sucks
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Where do you have the source for 4G being throttled to 6? I heard 10/1.
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I've heard the same thing around the time the Evo was announced and Wimax started to expand
I ran tests with speedtest.net but I don't know enough to understand the results. Can someone point me to a good reference on EDGE/3G/wireless speeds? Or, just tell me, what do you think of these numbers. Is this slow, fast, average or what?
I'm in SF and chose the SF server:
3G Down: 979
3G Up: 1323
Wireless Down: 4402 kbps
Wireless Up: 3175 kbps
My 3g speed is actually better than your wireless speeds. Your location and of course how much the 3g network is being used in your area by others will contribute to slower speeds. But that still does seem fairly slow for 3g, maybe high traffic bogging down the network at the time you tested? Have you run any other tests?
I haven't run any other tests. Can you recommend any other tests?
Also, just for context, I ran the test from inside an old apartment building in a dense neighborhood between 8p and 10p.
that's pretty terrible
I get about 3.7meg consistantly down, 600k up in bentonville arkansas
speeds are alot lower than what i see in seattle, but on par with what i saw in most of O and Ca on a recent road trip.
I meant another speed test using the speedtest.net app, that would probably be the one of the worst times to run a test probably when theres the highest traffic. Just be sure you have a good signal when you run tests.
I just ran two more tests with speedtest.net, 10p PT. This time I made sure I had a decent signal (didn't pay attention last time).
3G up: 2226
3G down: 597
3G up: 1.04 Mbps
3G down: 1.05 Mbps
Honestly, the speed/performance has never bugged me or caught my attention because it was slow. But, what I'm gathering here is that I'm getting some pretty ****ty speeds, comparatively.
In Chicago we are only getting 1mb down 600-850 up....pisses me off...if tmobile doesnt raise it I need to consider att or sprint galaxy s....store claims speed in Chicago way behind rest of network and will get much better...i dont know if I can trust tmobiles network...is 3 mb common on tmobile 3g hspa like I have seen a few people claim in nj
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trunkstar1 said:
I ran tests with speedtest.net but I don't know enough to understand the results. Can someone point me to a good reference on EDGE/3G/wireless speeds? Or, just tell me, what do you think of these numbers. Is this slow, fast, average or what?
I'm in SF and chose the SF server:
3G Down: 979
3G Up: 1323
Wireless Down: 4402 kbps
Wireless Up: 3175 kbps
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uh, thats fine for normal 3g i think. t-mobile new 3.5/4g network will show higher numbers, but i think those are pretty normal for 3g.
i just did a speedtest and got 948kbs down and 1320 up. im in so cal with normal 3g, not new network
Is it weird that my up speeds are always greater than my down speeds?
kboater said:
uh, thats fine for normal 3g i think. t-mobile new 3.5/4g network will show higher numbers, but i think those are pretty normal for 3g.
i just did a speedtest and got 948kbs down and 1320 up. im in so cal with normal 3g, not new network
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Ah, thanks for the reference. What's the "new network?" Is that the HSDPA+?
I get similar speeds on so. cal. as well.
Yes, the new network is HSDPA+. The coverage map for HSPDA+ is here, http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/?WT.z_unav=mst_global_cvg#.
I'm in Miami and I get an average of 2meg download and 1.5meg upload
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Parts of Jacksonville, FL have been upgraded to the "faster" 3G network. Other parts are still on regular 3G or even edge.
I'm on fast 3G right now. Just got 5087 kbps down and 1599 kbps up. Regular 3G usually give me around 1000 down, 600 up.
trunkstar1 said:
I ran tests with speedtest.net but I don't know enough to understand the results. Can someone point me to a good reference on EDGE/3G/wireless speeds? Or, just tell me, what do you think of these numbers. Is this slow, fast, average or what?
I'm in SF and chose the SF server:
3G Down: 979
3G Up: 1323
Wireless Down: 4402 kbps
Wireless Up: 3175 kbps
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I think your speed is fine. If you dont try to download a HD movie to your phone through 3g you will be fine with youtubing and web surfing.
elreason4 said:
In Chicago we are only getting 1mb down 600-850 up....pisses me off...if tmobile doesnt raise it I need to consider att or sprint galaxy s....store claims speed in Chicago way behind rest of network and will get much better...i dont know if I can trust tmobiles network...is 3 mb common on tmobile 3g hspa like I have seen a few people claim in nj
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I'm in Chicago and I get speeds between 1.5-5mbps up and 700kbps-1.5mbps depending where in Chicago I am and but more constantly 2mbps up, 800kbps down.
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I just got 192 down and 158 up inside the barracks at camp smith upstate ny... Back in long island I get 506 down 166 up
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Here in Sacramento California
When I use 3G I get the following average over three attempts:
149ms ping (145ms, 130ms, 174ms)
4891 kbps download (4922, 5212, 4539)
1322 kbps upload (1332, 1325, 1311)
When I use WiFi I get the following average over three attempts:
32 ms ping (31ms, 33ms, 31ms)
4179 kbps down (4130, 4049, 4359)
3163 kbps up (3338, 3019, 3133)
But, earlier when I was in the San Francisco bay area I was getting 1.6kbps down and .8 kbsp up.
I'm in the Suburbs of Seattle and I'm getting nearly 6mb/s download speed all the time.
What connection speed are you getting to your router? For some reason I can not get above 65Mbs connection. All my laptops connect at the 150Mbs. Any tweaks that you guys know of to increase this?
Dumb question. Is Wireless N on by default on the Evo these days?
thenags said:
Dumb question. Is Wireless N on by default on the Evo these days?
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Yes it is.
72 Mbps using MIUI's latest ROM.
Where can I see the connection speed?
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I connect at 72 mbps using cm 6.1.2.
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MrSpain said:
Where can I see the connection speed?
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Settings/wireless& networks/ wifi settings/ click the router your connected too and an info window will pop up.
There are probably apps available to give you wifi and router information also, I haven't checked.
The highest I've seen on mine was 54 Mbps.
I only see 65mbps with full signal, literally in the same room as my router, regardless of what router I use.
So folks seeing 100+: What router you usin', and are you lying?
So what am I doing wrong? I top out at about 30Mbps on my budget cable connection wired or wireless to the laptop. Speedtest.net app maxes out at 10 to the Evo.
72 mbps here completely stock
phatmanxxl said:
Settings/wireless& networks/ wifi settings/ click the router your connected too and an info window will pop up.
There are probably apps available to give you wifi and router information also, I haven't checked.
The highest I've seen on mine was 54 Mbps.
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Had a blonde moment there, my bad, thanks.
But ****, I don't even see my N network. My netgear router has dual channel, and I only see the wireless G signal on my evo. The N network doesn't even show up!
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MrSpain said:
Had a blonde moment there, my bad, thanks.
But ****, I don't even see my N network. My netgear router has dual channel, and I only see the wireless G signal on my evo. The N network doesn't even show up!
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The evo 4g supports 2.4GHz 802.11n, not 5GHz. This may be your issue.
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My Evo shows the connection at 65mbps but I've only ever achieved between 6 and 7 mbps using Xtremelabs Speedtest. Annoying since my net package is supposed to be up to 15 mbps but I guess that's only going to be under perfect circumstances.
tempe38 said:
My Evo shows the connection at 65mbps but I've only ever achieved between 6 and 7 mbps using Xtremelabs Speedtest. Annoying since my net package is supposed to be up to 15 mbps but I guess that's only going to be under perfect circumstances.
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its the phone, I have a 10 mb connection my phone always says 4 to 8, but my loptop always gets the full 9 to 10 MB download speed.
phatmanxxl said:
its the phone, I have a 10 mb connection my phone always says 4 to 8, but my loptop always gets the full 9 to 10 MB download speed.
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+1 exactly.
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phatmanxxl said:
its the phone, I have a 10 mb connection my phone always says 4 to 8, but my loptop always gets the full 9 to 10 MB download speed.
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Eh, sometimes I get better with my other computers, sometimes not. I mean, my PC connects at 300mbps but there's no way I'm actually going to get that from the internet with my plan only at 15. I think some folks may have some confusion that the settings are only telling you the network connection, not necessarily the internet speed.
DarkAudit said:
So what am I doing wrong? I top out at about 30Mbps on my budget cable connection wired or wireless to the laptop. Speedtest.net app maxes out at 10 to the Evo.
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That's the downstream bandwidth, which seems actually pretty good.
What we're talking about is intra-network throughput. Speed in which your device communicates with your router.
I had to install a modified wireless kernel module to get N back after the 2.3 Gingerbread update. Or one can install a custom kernel which includes the wireless N fix such as freedom or chopsuey.
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Hello I have a sidekick 4g with a fios router. I have a question on the speed test I get 17 mb download speeds with the wifi router the router is made by motorola if tha helps but a horrible 1 mb upload is something wrong here?
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I have noticed that on some phones in general upload speeds over wifi are weak regardless of the router you're connected to. Maybe that's the case for you as well?
what's your FIOS plan actually should give ? how much are you getting upload on other computers or phones?
Fios is rated at 15 dl and 5 mb up load. And my phone sits right near the router btw and the computer. Clocks 29 mb download and 6 upload
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