[Q] 2300 mAh flat or 3500 mAh extended battery? - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Simple question here: I'm tired of getting no good batt life no matter what ROM I flash. The reason is that I use some apps (SeePU, SetVSel, Lookout) who are running all the time, thus taking some precious juice from my phone. I like to have "control" (in this case, it means knowing always how much load is my phone going thru) and safety in my Defy, so simply stop using these apps is not an option.
Since extended batteries are really cheap these days, it came to my mind: there are 2 models of extended batts (except for the Defy+ one): the 2300 mAh one, which has the same size as the original, and the 3500 mAh one, which is bigger, but comes with a proper rear case for it. Now, what would be better: keep the phone's forms and water resistance, using the 2300 one and keeping the original batt always with me, or go for the bigger one, leaving the original batt always home (with more than double mAh, I wouldn't need it around anyway)?
Plus, for people who already use them, do these batteries actually add uptime to the phone? I mean, I know Defy+ users have trouble with the ROMs made for the original Defy mainly because the firmwares don't recognize the batt correctly, so wouldn't an extended battery suffer of the same issue?
Last, but not least: do you guys know where can I find a 2300 mAh battery these days? Every eBay auction I find is already closed due to stock running out, only 3500 mAh models are available.

I think you'll be better buying an original spare battery to carry around...those cheap batteries are never good, the real mAh is never the same as advertised, if not lower than the original battery
also the chems inside are probably cheap stuff 'cause their lifespan is significantly shorter
always hope someone will prove me wrong!

Either get a real Motorola battery or get the 3500mAh. It's not possible to fit 2300mAh of battery capacity in the original space, Li-ion does have its limits.

i wonder if Defy still has waterproof capability if using thick battery

The defy + battery issue is down to different type of battery (chemical)
The big battery looses the water resistance, so I would choose a second original battery as the quality is good, best battery you can get that's genuinely better is the mugen 1900 the cheap ones dont last
teamwork makes the dream work

Personally I got myself an external USB battery

overlord395 said:
i wonder if Defy still has waterproof capability if using thick battery
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No, the original batt cover has a different design which provides the water resistance. Generic covers does not provide this protection
LetoKynes said:
Personally I got myself an external USB battery
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Tell me more, I'd get one of these if I knew more.

New case for extended battery addon
Hi,
Considering getting an 3500mAh extended battery from ebay.
I have a case for the Defy with standard battery and it's protected the phone from a few drops.
With the extended battery - the old case won't fit- I'm thinking a silicone protector would be good. Has anayone adapted a case/ protector for their Defy using extended battery?
Cheers.

I would try original defy+ akku. But don't know if defy will accept this?
Somebody tested?

Do not go for something that makes your phone bulky since it would not fit in the doc
K3n H1mur4 said:
Simple question here: I'm tired of getting no good batt life no matter what ROM I flash. The reason is that I use some apps (SeePU, SetVSel, Lookout) who are running all the time, thus taking some precious juice from my phone. I like to have "control" (in this case, it means knowing always how much load is my phone going thru) and safety in my Defy, so simply stop using these apps is not an option.
Since extended batteries are really cheap these days, it came to my mind: there are 2 models of extended batts (except for the Defy+ one): the 2300 mAh one, which has the same size as the original, and the 3500 mAh one, which is bigger, but comes with a proper rear case for it. Now, what would be better: keep the phone's forms and water resistance, using the 2300 one and keeping the original batt always with me, or go for the bigger one, leaving the original batt always home (with more than double mAh, I wouldn't need it around anyway)?
Plus, for people who already use them, do these batteries actually add uptime to the phone? I mean, I know Defy+ users have trouble with the ROMs made for the original Defy mainly because the firmwares don't recognize the batt correctly, so wouldn't an extended battery suffer of the same issue?
Last, but not least: do you guys know where can I find a 2300 mAh battery these days? Every eBay auction I find is already closed due to stock running out, only 3500 mAh models are available.
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Hi,
It is good to upgrade the phones battery :goodIf it is a original Moto battery, since battery leaks from low quality battery would kill your phone).
If the new battery would make your phone bulkier then it would make the phone not to fit in the docks available for this phone. Also changing the original battery cover might make the phone less water-resistant.
Cheers,
Vic

Related

Are these really genuine TyTN II batteries?

I'm wanting to get a replacement battery but I don't want to buy a dud. I've noticed a couple of companies selling genuine/orignal batteries and to be fair they do look EXACTLY like the samsunt branded battery that came with my TyTN II. However, on closer inspection, in the top left corner of the pictures the battery doesn't say Samsung. Can't really make out what the brand is.
Anyway, my question is, did anyone get a battery supplied with their TyTN II that was not Samsund branded and looked like the batteries in the following listing?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....m=170230086920&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007
Considering it is from a power seller and the price isn't to low, i would go for it.
That's the exact battery in mine. Mine doesn't say Samsung. It says Dynapak on the top. idk that one deff. seems legit.
Cheers guys. You've been a great help
well you better get batteries from an authorized agent - they could cost you your device. the batteries you shown looks OK but you need to be definite so go to agent and ask for them, you may pay slightly more but you could also save yourself a headache
Mine is Samsung, I never heard of dynapack. I wouldent buy it .
if you look at the top left corner, you will see dynapak. its legit, never gave me problems great battery life too.
Dynapak here as well.
Jonathan1683 said:
Mine is Samsung, I never heard of dynapack. I wouldent buy it .
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My original battery is a DynaPack. SOmewhere on here is a thread where people posted the models of their original batteries. There might have been 3 or more variations.
Both are oem. Either Samsung or Dynapack will be fine. My original battery was Dynapack. The replacement is Samsung. I had my battery replaced because it was less than a year old and losing capacity. The ATT warranty will replace it for free.
Dynapack here also in my Tilt. Model KAIS160, 1350mAh.
Hi
I would like to buy another battery, but I don't know what parameters I have to figures out in the search. Can someone tell me what characteristic the new battery must have? Do you think that buy a battery of more capacity [like 1600 mAh] could be better? I use a lot the wi-fi and it consume a lot of power...
I saw battery of 1600 mAh costing less than 1350 ones.... Are they sh*t?
Thanks
extended battery with door
You can get non-oem standard 1000+mAh for 23 bucks at
http://www.wirester.com/at-t-8925-htc-kaiser-tytn-ii-li-ion-battery.html
You can also get non-oem extended 2400mAh with door for 35 bucks at wirester as well
http://www.wirester.com/att-tilt-8925-htc-tytn-ii-kaiser-li-ion-extended-battery-with-door.html
I got the extended one. haven't used it though.
Thanks for the reply.
If it is possible I will buy a battery without extend the back-door because if the PDA become thicker I will have some problem to fit in the car holder...
But my question is related to the characteristic. In the Italian ebay I saw a lot of 1350 mAh battery that cost from 6 to 40 € and I don't understand the reason...
I don't know, also, if the battery with more than 1350 mAh are useful, because on of my friends had bought a xlarge battery for his PSP and the time of using is reduced compare to the original...
I'm confused... Can you help me? If someone have bought non original battery can tell me the characteristic and his opinion compare to the original one?
Thanks
My first Tilt had a Samsung in it. The rear speaker failed after a month, so i got an entire boxed replacement at the store and it had a Dynapack in it. Havent had a single complaint with the 2nd unit i got with the Dynapack battery. Heck, i think even the battery life is better with the Dynapack than the Samsung one I had first.
Thanks for your advice. I've found some Dynapack in ebay.it and I think I will buy this.
If I will have more info about I will tell you!
Thanks Bye
whats the biggest standard size battery for the kaiser. i really dont want to have a bulky battery on mine cause i usually have my phone in my pocket.
nymkin said:
whats the biggest standard size battery for the kaiser. i really dont want to have a bulky battery on mine cause i usually have my phone in my pocket.
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The battery of the highest mAh that remain of the same size of the original that I found is 1600 mAh...
Bye
there are only a few differences i can see with it vs mine... with that one, it has a DC##etc under the bar code, i have a S/N: ###etc.
The one i had in mine was a Samsung, model KAIS160, rating 3.7VDC, 1350 mAh, 4.2BDC
Of course, i did buy a used device, but i believe it was the OEM battery...
Jeremie
jlariviere said:
The one i had in mine was a Samsung, model KAIS160, rating 3.7VDC, 1350 mAh, 4.2BDC
Of course, i did buy a used device, but i believe it was the OEM battery...
Jeremie
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Yes, this type of battery, with this writing on it, is the original one!
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Larger Battery (without larger back plate)

Hi Guys
My friend has a touch HD and recently bought a larger battery from ebay (an 1800mah) but its not one of the larger ones which requires a new expanded back plate for the phone. I was wondering if anything like this was available for the Jade, probably around the 15-1600 mah mark?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Jakai
DX have it:
http://dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.27004
Sorry buddy that looks like the same ones off ebay to me, with the larger back plate (making the phone fat!)
I can't imagine the one I'm looking for being over 1800mah or so, due to size. What I'm really after is a more powerful battery but at the same dimensions as the current one.
Anyone else shed any light? To make it more difficult, ideally located in the UK
That is impossible. To get more power the battery needs to be bigger.
nicodbgh said:
DX have it:
http://dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.27004
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This same shop has a 1300Ma version, looks to be same form-factor
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.23977
That looks exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. Now just need to find a dealer in UK or something on ebay. Thanks for your help!
Larger Battery
Let us know when you find a source closer to Europe. I am interested too for a Touch Cruise!
I've bought one off of ebay for about £7 with free delivery from hong kong, with free delivery! not too shabby I'll let u know how it performs once its arrived.
Says in the review on that link that it doesnt last as well as the standard one
It was only cheap so I guess we'll see. The sheer fact that its higher capacity would suggest it will last longer.
I'm expecting delivery hopefully this week but probably mid next week.
I bough some 2500 mAh NiMh batteries off ebay, my charger measured the best ones at 500 mAh, some where only 350 mAh. With batteries, stick to known brands if you want the best performance.
As nicodbgh said, its impossible. The chemistry in a Li-Ion battery requires a certain amount of volume per Ah, this is not going to be improved on, not significantly anyway. New chemistry may come along that is better, but it won't be Li-Ion.
Battery arrived on saturday and I've put it in the phone. The battery looks identical to the standard HTC one (even has the same "HTC Innovation" text on the front) except that its 1300mah (opposed to the original 1100mah)
It took longer to charge (abut 6 hours) but its only the first cycle. I'll use it this week and see if I notice any jump in battery life.
Update
And the verdict is:
Absolutely rubbish! It takes much longer to charge than the standard battery and so far I haven't had more than 1.5 days of use out of it, thats maybe 10 minutes of calls and 5-10 texts, few mins of internet. I have push mail and data connection constantly turned on and usually get around 3 days out of the standard 1100mah.
Bit of a dissapointment as I would have liked extra life (an extra day) but it was only cheap and at least now we all know. I speak on behalf of the larger batteries with the extended back plate but my advice is stick with the original battery over the 1300mah one.
Hope this is helpful to others.
JaKai said:
And the verdict is:
Absolutely rubbish! It takes much longer to charge than the standard battery and so far I haven't had more than 1.5 days of use out of it, thats maybe 10 minutes of calls and 5-10 texts, few mins of internet. I have push mail and data connection constantly turned on and usually get around 3 days out of the standard 1100mah.
Bit of a dissapointment as I would have liked extra life (an extra day) but it was only cheap and at least now we all know. I speak on behalf of the larger batteries with the extended back plate but my advice is stick with the original battery over the 1300mah one.
Hope this is helpful to others.
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This is the problem with "no name" batteries. Perhaps it gets better after a few charging cycles.

[Q] Xperia PLAY extended battery??

Would someone give me a suggestion of buying extended battery for the PLAY? I found an information of 3600mAH Mugen Power battery quite impressive but it come about double size in thickness compare to the stock one that scare the **** out of me. I wish not to make my phone anymore bulky as it already is My $$ would go for kinda 2000~2200mAH extended battery with a same dimension of the stock one.
There is always the 1800mah version.. havent seen any other
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...xperia-x1-1800mah-extra-eros-akkumulator.html
Yeah, I think it is the only availability now.
I have a Galaxy S Vibrant and bought one of those 3500 maH batteries. Yes it makes it thicker and heavier, but to me it is definitely worth it considering it extended my battery time 2 - 2.5x. I get more than a full day out of the phone. It's a tradeoff you have to decide what it's worth. Of course, you could just buy a second battery and swap them out when it get's low...
Ekusuperia said:
Would someone give me a suggestion of buying extended battery for the PLAY? I found an information of 3600mAH Mugen Power battery quite impressive but it come about double size in thickness compare to the stock one that scare the **** out of me. I wish not to make my phone anymore bulky as it already is My $$ would go for kinda 2000~2200mAH extended battery with a same dimension of the stock one.
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battery for 360t1

Hi guys phone seems to be working OK, but the 2000 mah battery drains very quickly...I havent been able to find any significant extended battery. I saw some that say 2840 mah but they probably arent and still thats not much of an increase.. What my best option for a larger battery? just get one of the power banks and stick it on the back of the case? or maybe tie 2 batteries together and modify the back?
thanks

Where to purchase new battery?

The battery on my Pro3 LEX727 is on it's way out- only 75% of original capacity left and I'm now getting 2hrs of screen on time on a good day. I used to get 3.5 or 4. Not to mention the noticeably worse day-to-day performance.
Is there anywhere where I can purchase a genuine OEM or OEM quality battery? I would hate to buy a battery, wait a month for it to come to the US, and the have the replacement be no better than the dying battery currently in my phone.
Thanks in advance!
xBane_ said:
The battery on my Pro3 LEX727 is on it's way out- only 75% of original capacity left and I'm now getting 2hrs of screen on time on a good day. I used to get 3.5 or 4. Not to mention the noticeably worse day-to-day performance.
Is there anywhere where I can purchase a genuine OEM or OEM quality battery? I would hate to buy a battery, wait a month for it to come to the US, and the have the replacement be no better than the dying battery currently in my phone.
Thanks in advance!
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I haven't found any OEM batteries.
There are so many options it's hard to choose here are a few links for compatible batteries
3950mAh Battery For LETV Le Pro 3 X720,
I would choose this one, I have read many great reviews on this battery ( Our device will only recognise 4070)
https://www.ebay.com/i/192540002019?chn=ps
Finally, when you take the screen off
Do not use a hair dryer, use a heat gun instead.
A heat gun will get the glue hot enough that the screen will slide off easily.
You can buy a heat gun at Harbor Freight for $8
If you use a hair dryer with guitar picks You WILL damage your screen
Mr. tsongming -
Question about the HSABAT LTF23A 4400mAh Battery you recommended below -
Do you mean to say that if i install this battery in my X727, it will only charge to/recognize 4070mAh ?
or do you mean that it will recognize/charge to the full 4400mAh, but a stock battery is only 4070mAh ?
I guess my question is basically will my X727 fully charge this battery and last longer than the stock battery would ?
Or is the X727 somehow programmed to only charge the battery up to 4070 mAh ?
Thanks !
Markuch
tsongming said:
I haven't found any OEM batteries.
There are so many options it's hard to choose here are a few links for compatible batteries
I would choose this one, I have read many great reviews on this battery ( Our device will only recognise 4070)
Finally, when you take the screen off
Do not use a hair dryer, use a heat gun instead.
A heat gun will get the glue hot enough that the screen will slide off easily.
You can buy a heat gun at Harbor Freight for $8
If you use a hair dryer with guitar picks You WILL damage your screen
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markuch said:
Mr. tsongming -
Question about the HSABAT LTF23A 4400mAh Battery you recommended below -
Do you mean to say that if i install this battery in my X727, it will only charge to/recognize 4070mAh ?
or do you mean that it will recognize/charge to the full 4400mAh, but a stock battery is only 4070mAh ?
I guess my question is basically will my X727 fully charge this battery and last longer than the stock battery would ?
Or is the X727 somehow programmed to only charge the battery up to 4070 mAh ?
Thanks !
Markuch
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Technically you could make changes to the rom to be able to use the entire amount of the battery.
I have seen mixed reports. Some people think its better to only use an OEM battery. ( Which means Original Equipment Manufacturer) Honestly, I see their point. but since the Leeco source is available, I am sure that after market batteries are likely also just as good.
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Ebay
To be clear, I have read many positive reviews on the HSABAT. But you can't go wrong buying the OEM battery for only $7
Mr. Tsongming -
I understand. Sure would be nice if it was able to charge up to the full capacity, but that's ok, 4070 is still plenty for my usage. Thank you for your wisdom regarding this. You are clearly an expert with the Pro3. I have learned so much from your posts and am thankful for your presence here on this forum.
Markuch
tsongming said:
Technically you could make changes to the rom to be able to use the entire amount of the battery.
I have seen mixed reports. Some people think its better to only use an OEM battery. ( Which means Original Equipment Manufacturer) Honestly, I see their point. but since the Leeco source is available, I am sure that after market batteries are likely also just as good.
To be clear, I have read many positive reviews on the HSABAT. But you can't go wrong buying the OEM battery for only $7
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