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[APP Request?] Wifi video

As most of us dont have a Tv-out plug on our phones, Would it be possible to have the android phone to transmit video/audio over wifi to a wifi video receiver box connected to your Tv?
Ive allways wanted to be able to hook up my HTC Desire to the Tv and play some Snes emulators on it, And unfortunatley it doesent have Tv-out like the Incredible or Evo.
This idea cant be to crazy right? Wifi is capable to send video/audio and there are loads of wifi video/audio receiver on the market.

Noone thinks this can be done?

you must be ****ing sick freak but genius to have it done ! the idea is ****ing crazy and i think its not possible!:S

I'm not sure what you mean by "wifi video receiver box", but if you mean a UPnP/DLNA media player, check out Twonky Server Mobile and AndroMote.

elmicha said:
I'm not sure what you mean by "wifi video receiver box", but if you mean a UPnP/DLNA media player, check out Twonky Server Mobile and AndroMote.
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He want's to do it the other way, have the android screen on TV.

Klutsh said:
He want's to do it the other way, have the android screen on TV.
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Yeah exactly, If you search for "TV Output on DROID Incredible by HTC" on Youtube you will see what I wanna achieve, But I want to do it through Wifi instead since most phones dont have a Tv-Out plug.

Apparently I missed the part of the question that says that you want to play some Snes emulators, sorry. As I already typed the following before I re-read your question, I'll post it nevertheless. UPnP media servers are only for media files, not for showing the screen of your phone.
TwonkyServer Mobile is a UPnP media server. It reads the media files on your phone and delivers it to UPnP media renderers, i.e. a box that you can connect to your TV and receive UPnP media streams. Some TVs already have a UPnP media renderer built-in. There's also software that acts as a UPnP media renderer, so you could connect a HTPC to your TV.
AndroMote is a UPnP control point, i.e. a remote control that tells your UPnP media renderer what it should play. The files are served by your UPnP media server (e.g. Twonky Server Mobile). AndroMote is also a media renderer (to play videos on the phone screen), but you don't have to use that.
You could also ignore AndroMote altogether and use the UPnP control point (remote control) that probably comes with your UPnP media renderer.

elmicha said:
TwonkyServer Mobile is a UPnP media server.
AndroMote is a UPnP control point, i.e. a remote control that tells your UPnP media renderer what it should play.
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These seem quite cool, Tobad that they dont support playing back programs/emulators running on the phone or they would be perfect.

HTC itselft promotes this little box ist called "HTC Link"
Review is here http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/30/htc-media-link-dlna-streamer-review/

HTC Desire's DLNA function

DLNA.
This function is new to me but not for the rest of the high tech world. I know
nobody yet have used this function on a DHD, but SGS users maybe know what to
expect. This thread mainly is gonna be about the functionality of the DLNA
function in the DHD.
- Suggestions on what TV/LCD/LED to get.
- Is the wireless streeming seemless.
- What options to change in the TV to get the function to work.
These and many more questions can be asked about DLNA.
This topic mainly is cuz i am going to buy that phone and any input is superb welcome, but this topic, yet has not been seen in the DHD General section.
Please, reply on what do you suggest and how do you se yourself using this function
on a daily bases.
Best regards
mark wild

I think (hope) the wireless streaming is seamless if not htc should've scrapped the plans and gone for a hdmi

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MacaronyMax said:
I think (hope) the wireless streaming is seamless if not htc should've scrapped the plans and gone for a hdmi
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True to that. I do hope so to. Any information how it all works.

i have a ps3 hooked up to my hdtv. apparently the ps3 supports DLNA so im looking forward to testing it out when i get the DHD.

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SupremeBeaver said:
i have a ps3 hooked up to my hdtv. apparently the ps3 supports DLNA so im looking forward to testing it out when i get the DHD.
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What do you expect from hooking the phone up with your PS3??

mark wild said:
What do you expect from hooking the phone up with your PS3??
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true love lol

If you have a PS3 connected to your home network, then you connect your SGS/DHD to your home network via WiFi and turn on the DLNA app.
You'll see your SGS/DHD appear in the Video and Music menus of the XMB (you may have to scan for media servers on the PS3). Then you can browse the media folders on your SGS/DHD using the XMB.
Select a file, and it'll start playing on your TV. Simple.
That's how it works on my old Omnia II. Can't imagine it'll be any different with current handsets.

sub69 said:
If you have a PS3 connected to your home network, then you connect your SGS/DHD to your home network via WiFi and turn on the DLNA app.
You'll see your SGS/DHD appear in the Video and Music menus of the XMB (you may have to scan for media servers on the PS3). Then you can browse the media folders on your SGS/DHD using the XMB.
Select a file, and it'll start playing on your TV. Simple.
That's how it works on my old Omnia II. Can't imagine it'll be any different with current handsets.
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yeah ur right. but i've been wondering, will the format of videos have to be supported by both the DHD and the PS3? Does the ps3 actually decode the video file, or is that done on the DHD and simply streamed to the ps3?
for example, if i have an .avi file that works on my Desire hd, but assume this file type doesnt work on the ps3 natively, will it still be able to stream it?

This is a question that I'm very interested in finding out the answer too actually.
As I understand it, the advertised feature is that I can stream content (pictures, videos. music) to a DLNA device to display on my TV.
In my case, I have a PS3 and an Xbox360 which I assume will recognise my Desire HD and playback the content I have on it, which is fine.
I use my Xbox360 to play back content from my computer (which I believe is DLNA as well), so I am wondering if I can use my Desire HD to play back stuff from other devices. If so, then I can watch all my movies and listen to all my music via DLNA on my phone...
I really badly hope that this will work - MAJOR selling point for me!

SupremeBeaver said:
...if i have an .avi file that works on my Desire hd, but assume this file type doesnt work on the ps3 natively, will it still be able to stream it?
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The format of the video has to be supported by the PS3.
That used to be a problem with early PS3 Firmwares, but DivX/Xvid are natively supported by the PS3 these days...

dazultra2000 said:
I am wondering if I can use my Desire HD to play back stuff from other devices. If so, then I can watch all my movies and listen to all my music via DLNA on my phone...
I really badly hope that this will work - MAJOR selling point for me!
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Well, again, the DLNA app on the Omnia II allowed this, so I see no reason why this wouldn't work on the newer handsets.
Incidentally, if you connect to your home network via WiFi and use a File Manager that allows you to browse the local network (EStrongs File Explorer, for instance) - then you should be able to just share your PC's media folder and watch avi and mp3 files by browsing to them and opening them on your device. No DLNA needed.

sub69 said:
The format of the video has to be supported by the PS3.
That used to be a problem with early PS3 Firmwares, but DivX/Xvid are natively supported by the PS3 these days...
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ah ok i see. but if i were to reverse things and try to stream a video which works on the ps3, but not on the DHD itself, would this work?

SupremeBeaver said:
ah ok i see. but if i were to reverse things and try to stream a video which works on the ps3, but not on the DHD itself, would this work?
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There's no conversion done at all by either the PS3 or the DHD, DLNA is literally just a transport method, so you need to be streaming a file that is compatible on the receiving device. There are good media players available on Android to cover most filetypes though.
Of course, if you're trying to stream 1080p mkv files to your DHD, then you might struggle...

sub69 said:
Well, again, the DLNA app on the Omnia II allowed this, so I see no reason why this wouldn't work on the newer handsets.
Incidentally, if you connect to your home network via WiFi and use a File Manager that allows you to browse the local network (EStrongs File Explorer, for instance) - then you should be able to just share your PC's media folder and watch avi and mp3 files by browsing to them and opening them on your device. No DLNA needed.
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Useful to know! Thanks for that.

or just get one of these: http://www.expansys.com/hisense-108...our-downloaded-films-on-your-tv-in-hd-186127/
hisense has dlna and is brilliant bit of kit. youd just need a gaming relay wifi station / repeater or similar.
a wifi usb dongle should work too
bit cheaper here: http://www.redstore.com/HISSDC001

I have been using DLNA for a good few months now with both my Samsung GS & Acer Laptop which has DLNA onboard for streaming to my Samsung LED TV and find it worthwhile for both Music & Photo's. However, for Video you have to watch (pun not intended) what you are going to stream.
Any video file that has heavy encoding will make the buffer stream work overtime and often freeze or judder on the TV.
.MKV files are quite prone to this but DivX and MP4 files play quite well.
Even the phone's own camera if recorded at 720p will test your TV as it struggles to receive the data smoothly.
The first thing you will need to pick up the DLNA content from your phone is a media hub. This can either be a Laptop with DLNA, a PS3, or if you are lucky to have one of the recent LCD/LED TV's with DLNA built in you can stream the content direct to your TV.
In my setup I have a Samsung LED TV which is connected by Ethernet to my Router.
Whenever I want to stream data from the phone to the TV the first thing to do is on the phone run the DLNA App (on the SGS it is called AllShare).
P.S. There are other third-party DLNA titles available such as iMediashare Mobile and Twonky Mobile which will do the same job.
The next step is on the TV Remote use the 'Source' button and change it until you see on the TV your phone's name (mine again says Samsung Galaxy S).
Once you have selected the phone the TV's screen will now change to a Media Hub and give a menu system where you can then select Photo's, Music or Video.
Providing on your phone's DLNA App you have chosen to stream specific files these same files will then be available for displaying on your TV.
To control the content on your TV simply use the TV's Remote and Play/Pause/Stop/Back for previous/Fwd for next/etc.
At present we don't know anything on the App that will be on the DHD so it's going to be guesswork in exactly how data is selected for streaming.
Hope this helps.
Beards

One question, you seem to know about this stuff, is the DLNA menu in the TV different to every different DLNA application, or is the menu already in the TV itself?

HTC Made DLNA adapter
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"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
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"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
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Details and Images
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/35642/htc-dlna-bridge-gadget-tube

jkoljo said:
...is the DLNA menu in the TV different to every different DLNA application, or is the menu already in the TV itself?
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Each DLNA receiver has it's own menu for browsing DLNA media that it has discovered. The menu is part of the software in the TV, PS3, XBox, HTC receiver, etc...
DLNA is a standard for the transmission and discovery of media, but once that connection has been made, you can stream/send all sorts - DivX, Mkv, WMV, Avi, MP3, Wav, Jpg, Bmp, etc, etc.
The receiving device will have it's own software, with it's own menu, and it's own supported filetypes and codecs.
If you have a DLNA TV, it may only be able to play DivX and MP3. Or maybe Mkv and Wav. It's up to the manufacturer and the software they've loaded...

jkoljo said:
One question, you seem to know about this stuff, is the DLNA menu in the TV different to every different DLNA application, or is the menu already in the TV itself?
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The menu you see on the TV is what is built in on the TV.
So it does not matter what software you use on the phone it will always be the same on the TV.
As an example ~ Both my Laptop (which also transmit media data) & Phone show exactly the same menu on the TV.

[Q] Does the Desire HD's DNLA function actually work?

Has anyone here been able to get the DNLA function in their Desire HD to actually work?
I have tried sharing photos, videos, and music via the "Connected Media" app that comes preinstalled on the device, but its not working. I have my DHD and a PS3 connected to my wifi router, and I can stream from my laptop to my PS3 no problem. I had hoped I would be able to look at my photos and videos on my TV via the PS3's DNLA capabilities.
Connected Media was not working, so I then tried installing and running an alternative media sharing app, TwonkyServer Mobile - but again, no joy.
I can see the DNLA Android service running when I go into Settings->Applications->Running Services, so now I am wondering, is there something wrong with that service?
HTC's own website advertising the Desire HD states :
"Some moments you never want to forget. So capture them with HTC Desire HD’s high definition video camera. Then relive and share every detail in HD on your TV, long after the memories have faded."
So far, I have not been able to do anything of the sort

From what I can tell, in terms of recieving streams from other devices, it *does* work, but is VERY limited in terms of what content it can play back.
However, in terms of playing back content from the phone - it requires a very specific device (i.e. HTC's Hub) in order to be able to play back content. Poor move by HTC.

I thought the HTC Hub was for TV's that don't support DLNA?

i can get mine working with xbmc in linux, some pictures seemed to crash it though.

Mine works very well.
It streams from connected media to my DLNA enabled Samsung TV or DLNA enabled Sony Blu Ray. It has also worked well streaming to Windows 7 pcs. Very quick and very clear.
I've not had much luck playing divX files from my DLNA nas on my phone though, music plays fine.

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However, in terms of playing back content from the phone - it requires a very specific device (i.e. HTC's Hub) in order to be able to play back content. Poor move by HTC.
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I thought the whole idea was that it meant videos/photos taken using the Desire HD could then be displayed on TVs via DNLA. PS3s are DNLA compliant which meant a lot of people out there should already be able to use that as their DNLA client. I was looking forward to seeing my new 720p videos on my TV via the PS3.
NB Streaming from other devices to the Desire HD I am not that concerned with.
If anyone has been able to successfully stream from their Desire HD to their TV via a PS3, please let it be known

brokensocialsteve said:
Mine works very well.
It has also worked well streaming to Windows 7 pcs. Very quick and very clear.
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How do you setup the phone and win7 pc to stream music/fotos/videos from the pfone to the pc?
I want this because I have a mediacenter HTPC connected to my tv in the livingroom
Thx

It should work, because DLNA is a standard protocol. It would be stupid of HTC to come up with a proprietary protocol and label it as "DLNA".
To the OP: are you sure you are connected to your internal network? If you install ES File Explorer, or Android SFTP, can you connect to a PC from your DHD?
edit: both HTC Desire Z & HD are DLNA Certified Products, so they should work with any other DLNA device => http://certification.dlna.org/certs/REG46355642.pdf
In this certification document, apparently only IMAGES are certified as media that can be streamed, so only pictures, no music or movies.
edit2: comparing DLNA certificate of the Galaxy S, which has more certified media types: http://certification.dlna.org/certs/REG70753643.pdf

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To the OP: are you sure you are connected to your internal network? If you install ES File Explorer, or Android SFTP, can you connect to a PC from your DHD?
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I definitely have the DHD connected to the internal network (by which I assume you mean my wifi router?). I checked on my router's admin webpages and the phone is being allocated an IP address etc ok so I dont think there is anything wrong on a TCP/IP level.
I will install Android SFTP later and try connecting to my laptop, but I'd still love to hear if anyone has had any DHD->PS3 success.

Yeah if anyone can get it to work with the PS3 that would be great.
Also you could try install Twonky Mobile and see if that works.

Ok, I tried using Connected Media on my DHD in conjunction with Windows Media Player on Windows 7...and it worked perfectly!
Perhaps PS3's are not actually fully DNLA compliant, or there is some obscure setting hidden somewhere in the PS3 that I havent switched on (I doubt the latter however) ?
In any case, I think this proves that Connected Media does in fact work. Thanks to whoever suggested trying it against something other than a PS3.
As always, if anyone actually does get it to work with a PS3 - please shout!

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How do you setup the phone and win7 pc to stream music/fotos/videos from the pfone to the pc?
I want this because I have a mediacenter HTPC connected to my tv in the livingroom
Thx
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It all runs through Windows Media Player.
Open it up, choose 'stream' from the menu and choose 'allow remote control of my player' and then it should work.
If it doesn't then you have to fiddle with the streaming settings in 'more streaming options'

is it possible to access shares in the network and make a share so other pc's can access this on the DHD?

I'm able to stream content to my ps3 over dlna. Not through the default application but twonky mobile. It works perfectly watching a 720p movie without any stutters.

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It all runs through Windows Media Player.
Open it up, choose 'stream' from the menu and choose 'allow remote control of my player' and then it should work.
If it doesn't then you have to fiddle with the streaming settings in 'more streaming options'
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i tried both but somehow the windows media player of win7 doesn't appear to be in my desire hd.
btw, i could see the video files of win7 but when i clicked any, i could only hear the sound but not the video screen. any idea?

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i tried both but somehow the windows media player of win7 doesn't appear to be in my desire hd.
btw, i could see the video files of win7 but when i clicked any, i could only hear the sound but not the video screen. any idea?
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Check the file you are trying to stream. It has to be .mp4 with h264/aac encoding of the video/audio streams. The bitrate should also be reasonable (2000k works for sure)

You actually have different types of dlna devices : It depends of the capabilities of the sending device and the receiving device...
http://www.dlna.org/digital_living/how_it_works/

Slingbox vs Vulkano

For anyone who is interested, I have both a Slingbox Pro & a Hava/Monsoon/Vulkano Pro.
Both of these devices have Android players available to stream live TV to your phone although the Vulkano app is a free DL & the Sling app is $30 (it should be free)
These two devices are completely different & each has distinct advantages over the other. The Vulkano records to a 1 TB hard drive so it works as a DVR but only at 720p resolution & if you want to watch it on your phone you need to record at an even lower resolution.
The Slingbox has two tuners in it, which is really handy as I can hook my High Def cable box to one tuner & basic cable to the other. I can then watch a different channel on the phone than the home TV is set on. The Slingbox will work fine with no TV connection at all, which is a HUGE advantage over the Vulkano which has no internal tuner at all.
The Vulcano HAS to be hooked to a TV & then it only provides a 720p signal to the TV which is a noticeable downgrade in picture quality on my 50" LCD TV. It does provide really good quality streaming video quality however, better than the Slingbox on the phone.
So basically, the Vulkano gives a better image on your phone, but degrades the image on the TV it's hooked to. The Slingbox doesn't need a TV connection at all, but doesn't record & charges for the software app.

there is a way to get free app for sling, sorta if you subscribe to dish i believe their dish app connects to their sling adapter and you can sling for free as long as you are subscribed to their satellite service, one thing i am sure of they have an android app because i have seen it in the market and its free.

Which one will let you burn the show to a disc from your laptop? Or add items already on your dvr to the device to take and watch?
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Which one will let you burn the show to a disc from your laptop? Or add items already on your dvr to the device to take and watch?
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You can do both with the Vulkano.
I also had the slingbox pro and it was giving me a jacked up pic on Win 7, tried everything (some posts said to change win themes, etc.- none of it worked, which is why I got a Vulkano).
The only real drawbacks to the Vulkano are that it doesn't record to your PC in HD and only passes 720p resolution to the TV (from what I've read- not a big deal if you have an HDMI cable running to your TV and component running to the Vulkano, which I do), and it only has capability for one video input at a time (so no hooking up your DVD player and TV at the same time).
One of the cool features of the Vulkano is that you can record whatever program you're watching directly onto the laptop you're watching it on, or you can record it to an external hard drive connected to the Vulkano- you choose. Plus you can program remote signals into the vulkano (I haven't done it yet, so I don't know how well it works). It also records into mp4 format (H.264).
I bought a component switch ($26) that works by remote and plan on hooking up my blue ray that does streaming netflix so I can get whatever I want streaming from netflix onto my HTC HD2 (with dual boot to android- vulkano doesn't have an ap for windows based phones as of yet, I know, it's supposed to- but they can still play the mp4s).
I can let you know how it works out once it arrives if you like.

TestTube / Havafun
This is for anyone stuck with an older tv-box like the Hava Player [myhava.com/havamobileplayer.html] (Monsoon's predecessor to it's Vulkano products) i have. Check out [sites.google.com/site/overvoltagesoft/home/testtube] Over Voltage Soft's TestTube (avail. in market). TestTube is an:
Application for Android powered devices that allows owners of Hava place-shifter devices to watch and control their TV.
TestTube doesn't work like the commercial Hava Software that you've probably downloaded directly from Moonson Media. Instead of requiring a Username and Password to connect to your Hava, TestTube requires only the IP address of the device. Since this is a homebrew project that is unaffiliated with Monsoon Media, TestTube does not have access to the login servers which normally redirect you to your device.
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Being that I run Ubuntu and there is no native client support I have to manually watch through the crappy RTSP stream and use just-barely-working scripts (see below) to channel change and all that. See: [sourceforge.net/projects/havafun] Havafun - A package of shell binaries that talk directly to the Hava video streaming device, control key features from the command line (particularly on linux), grab high quality "local" video stream (particularly on linux) for eventual inclusion into MythTV. I imagine almost the same thing could be done from an android box if anyone was interested and proficient enough.
Hope these links helped someone out heh look at me blatantly spamming some guy's app i'll be expecting my check in the mail, overvolatesoft developer guy.

How to send image/video to My TV through my network?

On my laptops (win 7) i have the option to send media to my tv(which is also networked)
-right click
-send to (sony bravia)
-enjoy on tv
Is there a way i can achieve the same with my Transformer?
Thanks in advance

Use DLNA? Go to the Mynet app and turn on the TF as a media server. If your TV is compatible with DLNA or Upnp you should be able to connect to it. Or perhaps use any Upnp player (xbox/ps3/boxee...) connected to your TV to use it.

I use (and love) VLC.
VLC on computer with HDMI cable to TV + VLC Remote (android app) lets me sit back on the couch and browse all of my networked media and fully control what plays on the TV from the transformer.
I wouldn't want to play stuff from the transformer directly because it's a little weak at decoding HD content and I don't want to run handbrake on everything