Ok so this is probably a total n00b question but I would like help understanding. What is the difference between a nandroid backup and the current ROM backup from ROM manager with clockworkmod recovery?
Ummm.. there both the same?
Nandroid backup is when u go to cwm and "backup"
Rom manager just calls it "current rom backup" but all it does is take u to cwm and backup ur rom
There the same
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Thanks, I was getting confused by that. I suspected that they were the same, but I was not sure. I appreciate it.
pthurmond said:
Thanks, I was getting confused by that. I suspected that they were the same, but I was not sure. I appreciate it.
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Its cool; backup is the standard term, but amon sorta 'coined' nandroid, because it was a combination of nand [the memory] + android, backup, so nandroid was the result, so nandroid typically refers to a backup using amon ra recovery. Though in the end, as said, nandroid=backup.
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Sorry for the noob question.. I just rooted my phone and still learning the lingo. I just did a backup by opening up ROM Manager and choosing its option to backup. It went into Clockwork Recovery, which looks similar to a Nandroid backup. Are they different?
I believe they are the same thing. I use Rom Manager as well.
Yes Rom Manager simply drops down into Recovery and performs the Nandroid Backup/Restore.
I prefer to restore directly from Recovery using Rom Manager. Boot to Recovery just to insure there isn't a way for Rom Manager to glitch during the restore. Its glitched on me once personally, but once was enough for me to say I 100% trust the backup, but I'll drop down into Recovery and restore my own.
Great app
sorry for the really stupid question, if i make a nandroid back, what does that do exactly? does that hold all the data and apps and everything? so like if I switch roms, it makes it exactly the same as before?
or does it wipe the rom and everything?
nandroid backs up the complete phone. Apps, contacts, android OS... everything. If you restore a nandroid backup, it will put the phone in the state it was in when the backup was created. If you are rooted and you haven't made a nandroid backup yet.. DO IT!
And how exactly do you do a nandroid backup?
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And how exactly do you do a nandroid backup?
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1. when you go into your recovery manually, and it takes to you to the clockwork recovery, its because you (the clockwork app) replaced the original recovery, with its own
2. In clockwork app, hitting the "back up rom" feature, will automatically boot into recovery, and automatically run the nandroid back up for you.
3. Nandroid makes an exact copy of your current running rom. Apps, settings, and data, even placement of all your apps and wall paper. Think of it as a ghost image for a pc, but for your phone.
Wish I could post the link for my source, but can't because I'm a new user
Source: Android Central Forum Thread "nandroid back up titanium back up...?"
What parts of my phone does a Clockwork backup actually back up?
I am pretty sure it doesn't back up the Modem, correct?
Does it back up both the Kernel and the ROM?
Thanks!
Another question: Is doing a Clockwork backup the same thing as doing a "Nandroid" backup?
if not, what is the difference and how do you do a Nandroid backup?
Thanks (again)!
If im not mistaken a CWM backup and nandroid backup are the same thing, and it only backs up the ROM not ther kernel or the modem
GalaxySAndroid said:
If im not mistaken a CWM backup and nandroid backup are the same thing, and it only backs up the ROM not ther kernel or the modem
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http://androidforums.com/fascinate-all-things-root/221347-clockwork-restore-kernel.html
One reply says it does backup the kernel as long as it is a non-voodoo kernel.
This seems right since the backup directory holds all the files that is from the kernel.
I am quite sure that on my phone CWM backup (in recovery mode at least) backs up literally everything.
Now, I haven't cared too much about Nandroid backups since nothing is too important for me to save, and I'm running a different ROM almost every day... But what do Nandroid backups backup ? Just the ROM? ROM and data + Kernel ? And If I do a full wipe and I have a Nandroid backup, do I have to Flash the ROM first, then flash the Nandroid over it? Or can I just full wipe and flash the nandroid?
Nandroid isn't something I use a lot (or at all), so this is kinda odd to me.
A nandroid backup is essentially an image of your entire phone. The entire OS, phonebook, messages, settings...everything.
Awesome, so I can just flash the nandroid right after a full wipe, correct?
Yep, absolutely. Just don't forget that only CWM 3.0.0.6 can flash and restore anything. The other versions are limited to Froyo or Gingerbread, not both.
Yeah I know, I flashed 3.0.0.6 the second i saw it did both ROMs, I haven't had a problem since ^_^ But thanks !
+2 to your Thanks Meter
Glad you got it worked out.
I am new to this rooting world....I rooted my nexus 4 a week back using Nexus root toolkit v1.8.
I then flashed cm11 onto my phone.
I have TWRP recovery on my phone.
I want a full backup of my apps+data+ROM. How's this possible?? Which of these backups allow this..... And how to do these backups.
Also can anyone explain what a kernel is??
Titanium backup can only backup part of your data. Simply because apps can't access everything.
If you want a full backup, you should make a nandroid backup. Which is simply the name for a backup you do through your recovery. (TWRP in your case)
And the explanation of a kernel is really easy to find. So you'll have to use Google for that (I can't really think of a good explanation atm)
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How to perform a full nandroid backup using TWRP recovery??
Also can I do the nandroid backup directly to my PC
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How to perform a full nandroid backup using TWRP recovery??
Also can I do the nandroid backup directly to my PC
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Just use the backup toggle in twrp. And no, you can't backup direct to your pc. But afterwards you can copy the backup to your pc. It's good practice to have at least one recent backup there just in case something happens where you'll need it.
jd1639 said:
Just use the backup toggle in twrp. And no, you can't backup direct to your pc. But afterwards you can copy the backup to your pc. It's good practice to have at least one recent backup there just in case something happens where you'll need it.
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Some More Question Regarding Backups :-
Backing Up Using The ROM Manager (By Clockwork Mod) also performs the Nandroid Backup ???
Also when I Restore My Nandroid Backup (Of ROM1) while i am using some other ROM(ROM 2) .....flash the device into the ROM 1 settings and all the systems settings+apps.???
sPaMFouR said:
Some More Question Regarding Backups :-
Backing Up Using The ROM Manager (By Clockwork Mod) also performs the Nandroid Backup ???
Also when I Restore My Nandroid Backup (Of ROM1) while i am using some other ROM(ROM 2) .....flash the device into the ROM 1 settings and all the systems settings+apps.???
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First, don't use rom manager. You don't need it
A nandroid is like a copy of the entire os and all your apps and user settings. If your running rom2 and you restore rom1 all your settings of rom 2 will be forgotten and the ones you had in rom 1 when you backed it up will be restored.
sPaMFouR said:
Some More Question Regarding Backups :-
Backing Up Using The ROM Manager (By Clockwork Mod) also performs the Nandroid Backup ???
Also when I Restore My Nandroid Backup (Of ROM1) while i am using some other ROM(ROM 2) .....flash the device into the ROM 1 settings and all the systems settings+apps.???
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yeah rom manager perform nandroid backup
sPaMFouR said:
I am new to this rooting world....I rooted my nexus 4 a week back using Nexus root toolkit v1.8.
I then flashed cm11 onto my phone.
I have TWRP recovery on my phone.
I want a full backup of my apps+data+ROM. How's this possible?? Which of these backups allow this..... And how to do these backups.
Also can anyone explain what a kernel is??
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Although this is not really accurate, but this is as close as I can get to. Think of a phone like a car. The engine part which is essential to make your car runs is your kernel while the body, doors, sidemirrors and everything else are part of a rom. Kernel is in the deeper layer of the system.