should i get DEFY??? - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi all , my w8 had so much problems lately my dad decided to trade it in (cause of faulty phone) and add some bucks for a better phone for me ..so i've been thinking what phone to get ..among the choices are ACE , xperia mini , and just recently i thought of defy cause someone said defy can get muiu and is quite cheap ...so should iget it?
what i am looking for - in order
-I WANT MIUIIII
-price
-speed
-durability
-root frinedliness
-community(roms , defs etc)
-camera...?
-design
my price range is about RM750xx in used is about US250 and i cant find for defy's price in malaysian website...so is this phone in my league?
oh and what is miui actually? and is there others phone i should consider?

tohno said:
hi all , my w8 had so much problems lately my dad decided to trade it in (cause of faulty phone) and add some bucks for a better phone for me ..so i've been thinking what phone to get ..among the choices are ACE , xperia mini , and just recently i thought of defy cause someone said defy can get muiu and is quite cheap ...so should iget it?
what i am looking for - in order
-I WANT MIUIIII
-price
-speed
-durability
-root frinedliness
-community(roms , defs etc)
-camera...?
-design
my price range is about RM750xx in used is about US250 and i cant find for defy's price in malaysian website...so is this phone in my league?
oh and what is miui actually? and is there others phone i should consider?
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I shouldnt buy it... These are my reasons:
Motorola updates (I think we will not see official ICS in DEFY+)
Locked Bootloader = No "perfect" or "easy" ICS CyanogenMod 9
Motorola lied about it ( Its a defy with "stock" clock processor values.. )
It only can use signed kernels (by motorola --> bootloader locked)

oh...but if i dont mind unlocking bootloader will it be good? i was traumatized by unlocking BL since i hard bricked b4...but this phone supports miui yes? and is it expensive? really intrested with this phone

Given phones that you listed Defy is a beast. Yeah, it has locked bootloader and a share of Motorola related issues but development community is awesome. You can get unofficial 2.3 from Moto (Defy+ port), CM7, MIUI and now work is done on Android 4.0. It's relatively cheap compared to other phones that are successful in terms of unnofficial support and it has pretty nice hardware.
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-I WANT MIUIIII - done
-price - don't know about India but fairly cheap for that hardware
-speed - phone flies with CM7/MIUI/ICS, stock Moto software (2.2) not so much
-durability - very good, no scratch besides drop related (chest height onto pavement)
-root frinedliness - one-click root
-community(roms , defs etc) - awesome support
-camera...? - average
-design - basic matte finish, its beauty lies in simplicity

Yea man defy is best puck from this. Im writing to u from defy with android 4.0 so man... this phone is worth much more than hi is now
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ahhh! i really want a defy now!! the problem is i don't know how much it cost..will it be more than a galaxy ace?

I think it cost around US 200,
Motorola Defy CM7 RC 1.5 OC 1GHz

tohno said:
ahhh! i really want a defy now!! the problem is i don't know how much it cost..will it be more than a galaxy ace?
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In My country its the same price for both models... i think that it will by same in your

good phone but os isn't the android 4.0....
I usually to wash it by water .

LOL my dad asked about the retailer through the phone he said this phone no good better don't buy ...and he don't sell it , motorola is extremely unpopular in malaysia

You can get Defy @ around $200-225..and i would say go for defy.its one of those phones which is in league with likes of htc desire, samsung galaxy s..don't think of ace ..GPU of galaxy S & defy are almost identical plus lots of mod's on defy.use wajkui for miui or use fresh miui release @ MIUI.US..I think you can check defy on ebay or at your KL malls at chinese stores or in silangor ..you may get it for cheap..i was in malaysia for sometime..

definitely!!!

tbh it would not be the best option atm
for a year ago it would be good as its c/p is high
but now i suggest u to get another one

Great phone and awesome devs, but I'd say no until the bootloader is unlocked
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Well. I would say may be not now. There are other good phones recently launched could be better buy e.g sony erricsson neo-V etc.
The dev work is picking up for neo-V and is having similar specs to defy with better CPU, HDMI and unlocked boot loader.

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Droid2 ROMS?

Hi, why Droid 2 ROMS are not compatible with Milestone 2 ROMS? Can you anser please? I want to buy this phone in future
Really big thanks
kanek06 said:
Hi, why Droid 2 ROMS are not compatible with Milestone 2 ROMS? Can you anser please? I want to buy this phone in future
Really big thanks
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Because Droid 2 is a CDMA-phone (Verizon) and Milestone 2 is a GSM-phone (Europe e.g.)! Both are based on different chipsets. That's why this phones are technically not the same phones, they just look alike!
The Droid 2 Global is both: CDMA and GSM! So there are 3 different phones with the same look out in the wild.
Oh, I see. Well it's look bad, no ROM avaible now, only ROM Fission test. I am wondering to buy something different
Do you think some ROMS will come?
And themes for Droid2 can be used for Milestone2?
I tried to deodexed my milestone 2 rom yesterday, the process is not hard but a bit boring. I have different goal than theming, but it appears easy when everything is deodexed.
The Blur phone framework seems quite different from AOSP, so building AOSP ROM like Fission requires much more time than theming... If you want big changes to MS2, you got to be either very patient or well skilled in hacking
So i can't flash on Fission ROM (for M2) this THEME: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914196
try metamorph: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591329
not sure if they had that steel theme u want but they had a nice black one so it made me happy..
OK, no DesireZ, I will buy Milestone 2. I heard only positive comments for Fission ROM and I hope, new ROMS will arrived before I will buy the phone (next several months).
Only what I am scared is locked bootloader, I am affraid of brock
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If i would be you id buy the Desire HD way bigger display and no bootlock... i wish i bought it.. i cant get rid of my ms2
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What's bad and what i shouldn't do with locked bootloader? I want only flash ROM and THEME, no more customizion
And that wont work.
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DeadSix17 said:
And that wont work.
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Much like with the other Motorola phones, you CAN flash ROMs...you just can't change the kernel of the OS. Some functions not in the original kernel can be added by loading them as modules, but not all kernel features can be loaded that way.
If I had to guess, I'd say we'll get a few ROMs eventually, but given that much of the development scene goes on in the USA, we mightn't get as many as other phones...at least unless AT&T manage to get a version of the phone for their network. Unlikely though...Verizon seem to be going hard and exclusive on most of the Motorola gear...then again, Verizon are getting the iPhone after years on AT&T exclusive, so who knows what will happen in future...
To sum up...ROMs are coming, but don't expect the scene to be as vibrant for the GSM variants as it is with the CDMA ones...
if I had only known that before I bought a phone. Hmm, maybe it's time to play around myself a little bit =)
it's really disappointing that there isn't as much "hackery" going on in the Milestone 2 area compared to the Milestone 1.
Doshaska for example works so hard for getting the newest CyanogenMods on the Milestone 1, other groups released the 2.2 Froyo Upgrade months before Motorola did it (2 days ago they finally released it, but still not for everyone).
I think one of the problems is that the MS2 wasn't nearly as successful as the MS1 - but if we're lucky some skilled hacker will go on to our phone. Still hoping...
I think there will be better in the future - I bought this phone yesterday, with the hope for that . For now we've got the Argen2Stone. And look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870845&page=28 - Mikevhl would like to port the CM6 for us We must wait and help if possible

[Q] Is the Galaxy S future-proof enough to trade my Moto Milestone with?

[or, is there any budget device which is more future-proof?]
So, I recently sold my ZTE Blade to buy a (used) Motorola Milestone and payed something like 50 euros more than the price I sold the Blade for.
I got, though, quite disappointed by the phone's performance. RAM was full even when no real-world applications were running. The phone lagged and I thought this was an issue with the default ROM, so I flashed an aftermarket ROM. I still stood no chance. Performance was horrible and when I found that the bootloader is locked down I was even more disappointed. It seemed like a waste of money to me.
The bootloader being locked down is a bad thing. It also means that the phone can't have any future. At all. Also, all the drivers are closed source and can't really be applied to custom ROMs. It means it won't have any version above 2.3.7 too.
So, no ICS for me. I was really expecting it. What really dragged me down afterwards was that everyone said the phone is OLD. OLD? Can you believe it? I had just bought it and it was old? I think this is the worst buy I've ever made.
After all now, I'm quickly looking to replace my Milestone with a future-proof phone. When I say future-proof I really mean it. So, in my head future-proof means:
- ability to run Android 4 and even Android 5 when it gets released
- unlocked bootloader
- available kernels; last version of Linux would be appreciated
- good enough CPU and GPU
- much available RAM
After looking at the forums all I can say is that Galaxy S has the following:
- unlocked bootloader
- available Linux 3.0 kernel
- running Android 4
- 1GHz CPU
- no more Samsung support (no stock ICS)
And that's all I really know. I'd be genuinely interested on what you believe about the future of the phone and if it will be worth buying.
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gtklocker
No phone at all is future proof.
No one can tell you if any current phone will run, android 5. No one even knows what that is yet, or what power would be required to run it.
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greeced said:
No phone at all is future proof.
No one can tell you if any current phone will run, android 5. No one even knows what that is yet, or what power would be required to run it.
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You're right.
You understand here, though, that I'm not serious about Android 5, I'm just asking if it has the potential to run any newer software that what we might consider now.
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Anything that's out now SHOULD run, but without an official or leaked ics rom from Samsung, you're just hoping ported ics roms are ported correctly.
But at this point, without official drivers for ics for the i9000, it's hard to give a concrete answer. At least, until the Nexus S rom is officially available and given the i9000 love from developers. Seeing as it's the closest thing to the sgs.
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About to buy a flashed X5 - can I trust this ROM?

Hi guys
I'm about to buy a flashed X5 for about 150€.
I have to say that im a complete noob (like the registration video told me ) in all these things and the x5 would be my first Android Phone ever, but nvertheless Im really excited about all this modding and flashing and whatever you people do with the phones. I just want to make sure the bought phone wont die within one week because of some mistakes the seller made while having fun eventually flashing it wrong.
Its said to be flashed with the MUI 2.3.7 and overclocked to 1,2GHz (is that secure for the processor?)
Also the description says it has "7 Launcher" installed - this actually doesnt tell me a single thing, could someone kindly explain what it is and what it does?
Thats all the information I got about the current state of the phone. Would you say that its a well-done combination, or is there some potential of the whole thing being nothing but a mess?
Many thanks to you!
threepointfive said:
Hi guys
I'm about to buy a flashed X5 for about 150€.
I have to say that im a complete noob (like the registration video told me ) in all these things and the x5 would be my first Android Phone ever, but nvertheless Im really excited about all this modding and flashing and whatever you people do with the phones. I just want to make sure the bought phone wont die within one week because of some mistakes the seller made while having fun eventually flashing it wrong.
Its said to be flashed with the MUI 2.3.7 and overclocked to 1,2GHz (is that secure for the processor?)
Also the description says it has "7 Launcher" installed - this actually doesnt tell me a single thing, could someone kindly explain what it is and what it does?
Thats all the information I got about the current state of the phone. Would you say that its a well-done combination, or is there some potential of the whole thing being nothing but a mess?
Many thanks to you!
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That's a second hand phone? In Portugal, a new one costs 149€ :S
Well the seller says the phone has not been used at all, he just flashed it and put everything back
Anyways - could anyone help me out - should I buy the phone or does it all sounds too messed up already, what do you think
I would just check the price and spec of new phones in the same price bracket. This is an older phone now and I would not be surprised if you could pick it up for a similar price new with some looking.
That said, as long as it is all working, it should be ok. Price is similar to what I just paid for mine on a new years special. Launcher 7 will be gone when he wipes the phone data to sell it to you so you can choose to install it later if you want the windows phone 7 look.
I would just ask if it is still 2.6.32 kernel based (froyo rom) or if it has been upgraded to a 2.6.35 kernel base (official gingerbread). Either is fine, but it will just help you when it comes to installing roms later.
150€ is a normal price for a second handed phone here in Slovenia aswell. I might suggest, if you can get Samsung Galaxy S for that price, do it. I had Ideos X5 for 7 months, tried all ROMs I could find, but when I got my hands on Galaxy S, well...I switched to Galaxy S. The only major thing between them is that Ideos X5 has LED emitter. The battery seems to last longer on Galaxy S with stock ROM or custom in comparison with Ideos X5 stock and custom ROMs. Galaxy S has AMOLED display, which has a bit less DPI (it is 2mm longer, wider), but way better contrast with pictures/videos. In general it is smoother.
To answer your question, if the phone appears not to be damaged to you physically, you have nothing to worry about.

[Q] Atrix or milestone 3?

Hi everybody!
Maybe I will sell my defy and I'm wondering which phone is better?
ATRIX or MILESTONE 3?
(I know...buying a new motorola with the bootloader locked its not the best deal...but in my country I dont have much choice)
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3709&idPhone2=4349
I dont realy like the qwerty keyboard on MM3 but I think it better...
Can you help me decide?
Thanks in advance.
Although its kinda a risky process, you actually can unlock the bootloader on the Atrix. We've got an excellent stable CM7 rom and a good number of ICS roms that are good enough to be daily drivers (mainly lacking video recording). I cant speak on the Milestone 3, but you cant really go wrong with the Atrix. It may not have as good specs, but the bootloader makes it more mod friendly.
wht abt atrix2
CM7.2 official nightly..best ever

Xiaomi MI2S : A couple of questions to those who know/tried it

Hi all,
I do hope I am asking it in the right place (I didn't want to make a new thread at first, but the closest one I found was locked, so...).
I am willing to buy a Xiaomi MI2S phone. I already know it is only be sold in China (that isn't a problem, actually). I am mostly interested in the 32Gb version, it has really awesome specs.
I have been making a lot of research about this phone and, from what I've seen so far, feedback is positive. That is comforting, to me, but on the same page, I am directly addressing towards people who actually own this phone (or at least have tried it), what are its fails ? Is that phone as perfect as it looks ? Are there some serious flaws/inconveniences with it ?
Second, I also know that the device comes with a specific ROm (MIUI, available in both English and Chinese). I am totally fine with that, as I had a previous positive experience with MIUI roms. But I'd also like to know if, actually, it is possible to customize the phone ? I mean bootloader unlock, root ? Are there some custom roms (well I do mean Cyanogen support, or Cyanogen ports) for Xiaomi MI2S ? These aspects remains a bit unclear, and any piece of information would be much appreciated.
Thanks reading.
i'm willing to buy this phone too. When my good old LG O2x wil die (Can happen every minute ) So i also did some research.
In my langauge (Dutch) There is a lot of information about it. there is a topic on tweakers.net with lots of users who own the device. They are all very happy with it. Here you go... Ok, it's dutch.. But with the use of a translator.. I guess you can get some interesting things out of it. If not.. I could translate some pieces of text for you to english. Just PM me. Not the whole forum of course
About the ROM's. For as far as i know.. There are still no roms without MIUI.. But i'm not suprised if there are roms without MIUI. Maybe in china..
That's all i can help you with atm..
Good luck with researching
miui was modify from cm
and no other rom for mi2s now.
Hello,
I know is my first post here, but i own a MI2 (almost same specs as MI2S, last one using krait processor, better camera) since december this year.
So far nothing to complain about:
- with MIUI V5 battery last 2 full days (wi-fi on, push e-mail on, gps on)
- gps accurate about 2-3 meters
- no problem with gsm/3G signal
- display is very sharp, resistant to scratches, maybe some kind of ACG glass (drop it few times on the concrete, last time i forgot it on the top of my car and i go only plastic frame around display deform)
- sometimes it`s shut off by himself (dunno why, maybe i mess around with secondary recovery partition when it was on MIUI V4)
- no laggy at all (over 72 apps instaled)
- overall a good phone, and i like it
- i use it with the native rom and i get via OTA some updates at 2-3 weeks
sorry for my bad english, hope that helps
buy
Hi, on what website can you buy this phone, to make sure it's original an all?
I saw it on aliexpress, but there are so many sellers, I don;t know if it will be ok.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
desdekid said:
Hi, on what website can you buy this phone, to make sure it's original an all?
I saw it on aliexpress, but there are so many sellers, I don;t know if it will be ok.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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According to the people i refered to in my previous post..www.ibuygou.com is the best shop for the Xiaomi Mi2S device, when it comes to shipping. Some people in holland say that it takes only 1 day to ship, others complain that it takes more than 3 weeks. It depends on the amount of devices they have in stock.
The prices are great btw, 300 euro / 400 dollar for the 16gb, 350 euro / 450 dollar for the 32gb variant. And max 20 dollars for import
They also have accesoires like back covers, cases, batteries etc.
How fast is the GPS locking on the Mi2S?
This is really the perfect phone, with the exception it doesnt have LTE (does it?)
I had a mi 2
Its the best smartphone in 4.3" formfactor
Fast, stable
Very good camera
Long lasting akku on (gps wlan,edge)
Out of the box fast and stable no need for custom rom
Beside miui there is a stockandroid rom with english and chinese language
Cons
3g akku drain
Thick and high weight in comparison to s3, htc one
Bad support in fact of defect or something
Sometimes bad reception
Sometimes microphone issues ( mayve only my device)
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Hi all,
First of all, thanks for the positive feedback.
Well, Ibuygou seems to be a popular (and good) choice as a way to purchase the phone.
I'll consider that. Thanks for the tip.
Well, I still don't have much information about the second part of the question though. I am looking for information in the actual state-of-art on modding the phone : is there some safe ways for bootloader unlock, phone rooting ? Are there custom roms actually for Xiaomi devices, or at least, devs working on that ?
These aspects still remain a bit unclear to me, and i'd like to be enlighten on this.
Thanks in advance.
PS: Well it seems i missed natoleon's answer on that:
miui was modify from cm
and no other rom for mi2s now.
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Anyway, i'll be glad if anyone can expand on this.
Roland_Y said:
Hi all,
First of all, thanks for the positive feedback.
Well, Ibuygou seems to be a popular (and good) choice as a way to purchase the phone.
I'll consider that. Thanks for the tip.
Well, I still don't have much information about the second part of the question though. I am looking for information in the actual state-of-art on modding the phone : is there some safe ways for bootloader unlock, phone rooting ? Are there custom roms actually for Xiaomi devices, or at least, devs working on that ?
These aspects still remain a bit unclear to me, and i'd like to be enlighten on this.
Thanks in advance.
PS: Well it seems i missed natoleon's answer on that:
Anyway, i'll be glad if anyone can expand on this.
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There is no developers support due to lack of source code for the kernel as they refuse to follow the GPL laws. Also. Ok real development team has any respect for the MIUI crew as it is well known they take code from others and don't give anything back. For the these reasons this device will not see any development or forums here.
Wayne Tech Nexus
You can find a AOSP for Xiaomi Mi2/Mi2S here. It uses the same kernel though.
http://miui.es/index.php/topic,6678.0.html
It's a spanish forum, but the rom is multilanguage. You can use Google Translator to get an idea of it's said.
desdekid said:
Hi, on what website can you buy this phone, to make sure it's original an all?
I saw it on aliexpress, but there are so many sellers, I don;t know if it will be ok.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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Hi, I just bought in ALEGRECOMPRA (spanish site) is a very serious page, based on the comments in all forums.
This is my firts purchase on this page, Im waiting (about 3weeks) for mi Mi2s
I Bought my xiaomi mi2s 32gb from this seller
http://skeep.en.alibaba.com/product...MP_2MP_Ram_2GB_Rom_16GB_or_32GB_in_Stock.html
I can assure you she is selling 100% original phone cheapest price with great support. If you want you can contact her.
Xiaomi MI2S root after can't read the file after, what reason is this?
Mi-2S vs Mi-2
Does anyone know if the Mi-2s also has dragontrail glass like the Mi-2 ??
which series to choose ?
Hi guys, i dont want to deviate from the topic, i want to ask one question regarding Xiaomi
should i go for Mi2S or Mi2 ?
i am really confused about it. help me... what is the major difference between 2 of them ?
help me in deciding which one to buy soon...
thanks in advance...
plikmuny said:
Hi guys, i dont want to deviate from the topic, i want to ask one question regarding Xiaomi
should i go for Mi2S or Mi2 ?
i am really confused about it. help me... what is the major difference between 2 of them ?
help me in deciding which one to buy soon...
thanks in advance...
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simple answer, get MI2S 32GB, it's better in every way
I have ordered this Friday Mi2S 16GB because of "crazy discount" on ibuygou: http://www.ibuygou.com/crazy-discount/
I am really looking forward for this phone, I love MIUI
Hi, thanks for your prompt reply....
i heard a rumor that Mi3 is getting launched by august 16th... is that true ? also with full HD & octa core CPU ?
above all it is priced at 320$ !!!
I am very excited & i am kind of lets wait no matter even if the earthquake happens.... what should i do man ???
Hi,
I it's up to you.
The question is, do you want BIG and heavy phone (MI3, 5" screen, fullHD) or relatively small but still veeery fast (Mi2S, 4,3" screen, 720p).
Both phones are so fast that rest of parameters doesn't matter, you don't feel the difference....
I am very happy that MI2S have only 4,3" screen, not 4,5" or bigger because I want "compact" but fast phone with 2GB ram.
So I don't care about MI3.
stillka said:
Hi,
I it's up to you.
The question is, do you want BIG and heavy phone (MI3, 5" screen, fullHD) or relatively small but still veeery fast (Mi2S, 4,3" screen, 720p).
Both phones are so fast that rest of parameters doesn't matter, you don't feel the difference....
I am very happy that MI2S have only 4,3" screen, not 4,5" or bigger because I want "compact" but fast phone with 2GB ram.
So I don't care about MI3.
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There you go, thanks for helping me....
now i will go ahead & book Mi2S 32GB version & i will get it from a person who has been shipping this from china to europe since long time.. many have voted him as one of the best....
so i will be placing an order by tomorrow or day after maximum once the chinese boat festival is over....
will update once i get progress regarding this... can i see ur Mi2S ? & which ROM r u using currently ? what r all the must have apps to be installed & what crap wares to be uninstalled ? it is better we chat through PMs.... what do u say ?

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