I have look deeply in the forums and I still cant find the answer for this question, or maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. I have this MT4G already root, and I was planning on flashing it for better performance and battery life. I have seen Roms, Kernels and Radio flashing, but I haven't see a post where I can get like the right combination of those 3 and which one you have to flash first in order to have the 3 of those. If anyone know, please let me know with links, or with own experience.
And yes my friends, I'm new in this thing and I'm trying to learn everything thats has to do with androids.
I'm sorry if this thread has been post and any mod are free to delete it, I'm just looking forward to know every detail if possible.
Don't touch the baseband (radio) until you read enough to understand what it is and what it does.
Flashing ROM includes a kernel.
Switching kernels on the same ROM is a matter of preference.
Switching ROMs is a matter of preference.
There is no "best". There are different things to suit different people.
Read more, until you understand, what a ROM is and what a kernel is. There is LOTS of info on the internet, and if you're new and trying to learn, you should know that your path doesn't lay through asking questions on the forum, but through reading what's been asked ages before you, because as a newcomer, you have no new questions to present and can safely assume that all you have to ask, has been answered 10000 times.
Jack_R1 said:
Don't touch the baseband (radio) until you read enough to understand what it is and what it does.
Flashing ROM includes a kernel.
Switching kernels on the same ROM is a matter of preference.
Switching ROMs is a matter of preference.
There is no "best". There are different things to suit different people.
Read more, until you understand, what a ROM is and what a kernel is. There is LOTS of info on the internet, and if you're new and trying to learn, you should know that your path doesn't lay through asking questions on the forum, but through reading what's been asked ages before you, because as a newcomer, you have no new questions to present and can safely assume that all you have to ask, has been answered 10000 times.
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this rom so far has the best combination, battery is awesome it is stable and fast, and there is weaks for you to chose from.Here's a link to the ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401556
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this rom so far has the best combination, battery is awesome it is stable and fast, and there is weaks for you to chose from.Here's a link to the ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401556
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Thanks! I will try it right now.
Crazy, as a smart phone newbie on my MT3G I read for days before flashing radio and I am a tech, can be confusing... but
1. Radio. I have stock Gingerbread radio. This will be good enough to flash a variety or ROMS, although there are newer versions. The 1st answer is correct to read about the radio - that is where you could brick you phone if you mess up. Read about good and bad EMMC
2. You need a Recovery. Clockworkmod is usually a starter and then 4EXT IMHO, both of which you can get from the market ... Once you have recovery, you can wipe cache data etc... flash and backup ROMS. A decent sized SD card is necessary for backups. My Sense backups are ~1 GB. Between backups and music etc... you will need a decent card.
3. You can flash a different kernel but mostly they are included in the ROMs, as stated. I find there are, in a way, 3 flavors of ROMs: Sense, MIUI, and CM. My favourites are all by the same developer - CM7.2 (current ROM), Darkside Sense 4.0, and MIUI but there are a lot of good ones out there and ICS is on the way.
Look at the Resource Bible for radio how tos, and that and the development section for a good idea of some of the best ROMs and experiment. I suggest backing your ROMs as you may want to go back to them later because you might find you did not get all you could out of the ROM just cuz you didn't know enough yet.
Summarizing: Once the radio is good, all the 'combination' stuff you asked about will fall in place. Just remember to read about radio and emmc first. If you get stuck hit me up and I will help you out. Don't flash radio until you know what you are doing.
Jack_R1 said:
Don't touch the baseband (radio) until you read enough to understand what it is and what it does.
Flashing ROM includes a kernel.
Switching kernels on the same ROM is a matter of preference.
Switching ROMs is a matter of preference.
There is no "best". There are different things to suit different people.
Read more, until you understand, what a ROM is and what a kernel is. There is LOTS of info on the internet, and if you're new and trying to learn, you should know that your path doesn't lay through asking questions on the forum, but through reading what's been asked ages before you, because as a newcomer, you have no new questions to present and can safely assume that all you have to ask, has been answered 10000 times.
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I know there is no best combination, but what i know is other users with good experience that maybe will suit me, thats why I want recommendations from others experienced users
Homerbsharp said:
Crazy, as a smart phone newbie on my MT3G I read for days before flashing radio and I am a tech, can be confusing... but
1. Radio. I have stock Gingerbread radio. This will be good enough to flash a variety or ROMS, although there are newer versions. The 1st answer is correct to read about the radio - that is where you could brick you phone if you mess up. Read about good and bad EMMC
2. You need a Recovery. Clockworkmod is usually a starter and then 4EXT IMHO, both of which you can get from the market ... Once you have recovery, you can wipe cache data etc... flash and backup ROMS. A decent sized SD card is necessary for backups. My Sense backups are ~1 GB. Between backups and music etc... you will need a decent card.
3. You can flash a different kernel but mostly they are included in the ROMs, as stated. I find there are, in a way, 3 flavors of ROMs: Sense, MIUI, and CM. My favourites are all by the same developer - CM7.2 (current ROM), Darkside Sense 4.0, and MIUI but there are a lot of good ones out there and ICS is on the way.
Look at the Resource Bible for radio how tos, and that and the development section for a good idea of some of the best ROMs and experiment. I suggest backing your ROMs as you may want to go back to them later because you might find you did not get all you could out of the ROM just cuz you didn't know enough yet.
Summarizing: Once the radio is good, all the 'combination' stuff you asked about will fall in place. Just remember to read about radio and emmc first. If you get stuck hit me up and I will help you out. Don't flash radio until you know what you are doing.
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This is what i was looking for.
I was reading the MT4G post for new ppl and already check my EMMc and its the good one. Already root my phone with the visionary app using a guide from here to do the PermaRoot. I already read already a little about MIUI and Radio ( of course i need to read more ) I know there is an app called Titanium that is good for backup, read about Rom manager and what it does. But believe me, I will keep reading like a maniac lol
Btw, this is what my phone have right now:
Ver. 2.2.1
Baseband ver. ( Radio if Im not mistaken )
12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26M
Kernel
2.6.32.21
Songo07 said:
This is what i was looking for.
I was reading the MT4G post for new ppl and already check my EMMc and its the good one. Already root my phone with the visionary app using a guide from here to do the PermaRoot. I already read already a little about MIUI and Radio ( of course i need to read more ) I know there is an app called Titanium that is good for backup, read about Rom manager and what it does. But believe me, I will keep reading like a maniac lol
Btw, this is what my phone have right now:
Ver. 2.2.1
Baseband ver. ( Radio if Im not mistaken )
12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26M
Kernel
2.6.32.21
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Excellent, finding you have the good EMMc is nice thing.
You have froyo radio, allowed you to root, so you just have to flash more recent radio and you are good to go.
Couple of other things:
1. Especially for radio but for all downloads use an md5 checker; I am using SnapMD5 on xp - free, seems to work well. There are also other programs and you can also do it in terminal mode or adb.
2. After radio, get clockworkmod and install recovery.
3. Download your ROM, put on SD card, then boot into recovery.
4. Backup ROM. Wipe data/factory reset, cache and dalvik when flashing ROMS, cache and dalvik for updates only.
5. Install from SD card - choose your ROM zip file ...
FYI, if you are not using pro version I find mybackup root to be better for mass restoring apps ... but I use Titanium as well.
One last thing that is your original request for what you want is battery life and performance IMHO = CM, my favorite being TDJs 7.2 however trust me and the others, you won't know what you want just yet ...
Homerbsharp said:
Excellent, finding you have the good EMMc is nice thing.
You have froyo radio, allowed you to root, so you just have to flash more recent radio and you are good to go.
Couple of other things:
1. Especially for radio but for all downloads use an md5 checker; I am using SnapMD5 on xp - free, seems to work well. There are also other programs and you can also do it in terminal mode or adb.
2. After radio, get clockworkmod and install recovery.
3. Download your ROM, put on SD card, then boot into recovery.
4. Backup ROM. Wipe data/factory reset, cache and dalvik when flashing ROMS, cache and dalvik for updates only.
5. Install from SD card - choose your ROM zip file ...
FYI, if you are not using pro version I find mybackup root to be better for mass restoring apps ... but I use Titanium as well.
One last thing that is your original request for what you want is battery life and performance IMHO = CM, my favorite being TDJs 7.2 however trust me and the others, you won't know what you want just yet ...
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Got it.
I already update my Radio to 26.08.04.30 gingerbread, haven't seen a big change ( maybe because im from PR ) lol and i have the stock one in case I start having problems with that one.
On my way now to do the clockworkmode to get the recovery so i can move one to the ROMS.
Songo07 said:
Got it.
I already update my Radio to 26.08.04.30 gingerbread, haven't seen a big change ( maybe because im from PR ) lol and i have the stock one in case I start having problems with that one.
On my way now to do the clockworkmode to get the recovery so i can move one to the ROMS.
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After you use clockwork download 4EXT, it is awesome and now has 'touchcovery' which is so, so slick - it has a 'wipe all except for sd card' which is really good for changing ROMs.
Not sure if you have your card partitioned with 4EXT but you might want to go that way at some point. You can do it from within recovery but note when partitioning and formatting cards you can wipe your data so best to just pull everything to your PC first - e.g. if you have some pics and music on your card.
You are about to have a lot of fun!
Homerbsharp said:
After you use clockwork download 4EXT, it is awesome and now has 'touchcovery' which is so, so slick - it has a 'wipe all except for sd card' which is really good for changing ROMs.
Not sure if you have your card partitioned with 4EXT but you might want to go that way at some point. You can do it from within recovery but note when partitioning and formatting cards you can wipe your data so best to just pull everything to your PC first - e.g. if you have some pics and music on your card.
You are about to have a lot of fun!
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Already bought Rom Manager Pro ( yes...i know lol there are maybe other free apps ), since I had problems doing the CWM with terminal and ADB. I did the backup of my rom and system files. The only thing that is left is to download the ROM and wipe everything and im done. I was reading about 4EXT and was about to download it to install it and give it a try. So far, everything good with the radio. Btw, can you wipe other things from 4EXT apart from the sd?
For wiping:
Wipe data/factory reset, cache, dalvik cache when doing a new rom. If you are at 100% batter you may want to wipe battery stats - optional.
A lot of people have strange issues because they don't do a good wipe and just do cache and dalvik. I have found that only appropriate if going between minor version differences.
You don't wipe the SD card FAT partition. This is also why I like the 4EXT option to wipe everything except for SD.
Homerbsharp said:
For wiping:
Wipe data/factory reset, cache, dalvik cache when doing a new rom. If you are at 100% batter you may want to wipe battery stats - optional.
A lot of people have strange issues because they don't do a good wipe and just do cache and dalvik. I have found that only appropriate if going between minor version differences.
You don't wipe the SD card FAT partition. This is also why I like the 4EXT option to wipe everything except for SD.
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I havent try it yet but I already download it and installed. I was planning on do a complete whipe to the phone anyways lol. Whats the point on erasing battery stats? Oh and im downloading 3 different roms. I will.get back.with the names.later but.one of them is CM7
Btw, I wanted.to.know if im doing something wrong using terminal.or ADB since on ADB I was trying to push some files to the sdcard but said something about permision denied.
If you still out there, i finally finish everything. I'm running Virtuous Affinity 1.48 at 1.3ghz ( will test later at 1.5 ) with the gingerbread radio and so far is running smooth and awesome. Already install Rom manager pro, 4EXT and some other cool apps that the Rom already had. And i can say it was thanks to you and the bible lol
Oh and btw, now I'm gonna read about the galaxy S since my wife have one, Im gonna try with that one too hahaha
depends on preference
if you prefer sense over stock vanialla android, i would suggest one of the many sense 3.5 roms on the forum. They have been optimized amazingly to work wihtout lag on the mt4g. I'm running Darkside 4 and have been satisfied with the indcluded kernel. As for radio, don't touch it unless you see that someone else has had success.
battery life
I kno I'm a nood but for me I've keep my WiFi and data shut off . I was on unity but went to coredroid what a sick Rom .
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I'm just wondering what's so good about the Modaco ROMS... From what I was reading it's the best thing to ever happen to Hero but I've flashed it and it actually seems slower/laggier than my stock ROM... should this be?
My stock ROM was 2.73.XX but I can't remember the exact build number. I'm using Modaco 3.0... are there any other ROMS out there I should consider trying? I'm looking for the fastest and most responsive ROM out there. I do A LOT of multitasking so I'd like to have a ROM that can keep up.
If you did a complete data wipe/factory reset, while having the Modaco Rom, the Hero should be a lot more responsive and faster.
I like Modaco rather than stock rom because it removes some useless apps and allows for more customization. Btw, another alterative to the stock and Modaco is the [email protected] and the Clean ION Roms.
There are several different Roms, the differences is the types of apps removed/installed and the Android firmware.
i like modacos roms, because they work reliable and good. with pauls roms i am sure that he has tested them well, and i can use them as basis for my own modifications, or just can push them to my friends' heros without having them complain that something doesn't work. also in case you need support you can ask paul, he is really a nice guy.
there are some other roms, but imho mcr3.0 is by far the most evolved rom, esp. for everyday use. check the development section here for other roms, including the brandnew android 2.1 roms
Well here's the thing. I didn't wipe/factory reset before I Flashed the ROM. After flashing it went into a reboot loop, it would keep rebooting and when it got to the last boot animation, reboot again... I then did a wipe using the recovery boots wipe option and then it booted fine... Maybe I should do another wipe and flash again? It sucks though because now I've customized it back to the way I like it... I hate having to do that all over again. I guess I need to do the A2SD thing so I don't have to redownload my apps again... that was annoying when I had to do it after flashing Modaco's.... I couldn't even remember all that I had installed lol.
Anyone think reflashing might make it better?
I've been using MCR since about 2.2 so I can't speak for 3.0, but when I first flashed with 2.2 I didn't factory reset or format my SD card and it was a complete fail... apps force closing constantly, unable to recieve SMS, and other assorted weirdness.
So I factory resetted, reflashed and from that point MCR has run very smoothly and each update has gone OK (except for one where i had to format and repartition my SD card for A2SD, but didn't lose any settings).
So my advice would be that if you go to the effort of starting with a clean slate you'll get a much better user experience, which is what all us existing MCR users have...
streetdaddy is spot on. Do a clean wipe and then a rom flash.
I'm using MoDaCo 2.9. For my Hero, 3.0 ate up a lot of my phone's internal memory and kept saying I was running out of memory. The differences are minuscule and the speed improvement is about the same.
I started using Pauls ROM as soon as I got my Hero (which was a few days after release) because the stock ROM was toilet, and I've not looked back. The ROM itself is excellent and the support is first-class.
Make sure to wipe before installing. Once you've got it up and running you shouldn't have to wipe it when you upgrade next time.
Hello All,
I have been pointed to the dream forum in search of a new ROM for my 32B Magic. At the moment I am using cyanogen 4.2.13 with the 10MB RAM hack.
Are there any other ROMS out there that are on par with this ROM?
I find the cyanogen one 100 times better than the original ROM that came with the phone but I always like to experiment.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance
WG-Build, Super D, and TheOfficial
All three are plenty fast, if not faster than CM's latest. And they all have available ram hacks, not sure about Enom's though. Oh well.
Thanks for that - would you say there are any benefits from switching to any of the above?
Speed is the benefit. Try them out!
Since you have AmonRA's latest, perform a Nand + ext backup of the CM build you have right now to make it easier for you to revert back if you don't like those builds
Then after that, simply wipe data, dalvik, and sd ext. Go to partition sd section and repair ext. Enable USB toggle, copy rom to sd, then flash it.
If you don't like the rom, wipe data and do a Nand restore of the CM build you previously backed up.
I have tried the latest of these ROMs. The Official, WG, and Super-D. I think the smoothest and fastest is Super-D 1.6. Haven't tried his beta 1.6.6.
Tried the Super-D 1.6.6 and it was definitely faster than the cyanogen ROM.
A few glitches though so I did a nandroid restore for the first time and was very impressed!
Is there a known bugs page for the above ROMS? I could read through the whole posts but there over 50 pages!
I also noticed that my SD card had not formated when I put the Super-D ROM on even though I did the wipe exactly as BoomBoomPOW suggested.
It also didn't recognise my partition - any ideas?
Going to go ROM crazy now I know how simple the nandroid restore is
jazz8146 said:
Tried the Super-D 1.6.6 and it was definitely faster than the cyanogen ROM.
A few glitches though so I did a nandroid restore for the first time and was very impressed!
Is there a known bugs page for the above ROMS? I could read through the whole posts but there over 50 pages!
I also noticed that my SD card had not formated when I put the Super-D ROM on even though I did the wipe exactly as BoomBoomPOW suggested.
It also didn't recognise my partition - any ideas?
Going to go ROM crazy now I know how simple the nandroid restore is
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You have to do the format yourself in recovery.
Ok - i'll give it a go
Thanks!
hey!
Anyone have any good suggestions for a rom for HTC - Mytouch 4g? I am pretty much a n00b even though I manage to pull a complete ultimate true root and s=off lol.
i have the original tmobile stock rom though, is there a just Android 2.2 or Android 2.3 Vanilla rom for HTC mytouch 4g?!
I've seen EvilZ and Ice galicier , but I am not sure which one to go about .
Any (good) suggestions would really help!
thanks a bunch.
LimitsX said:
hey!
Anyone have any good suggestions for a rom for HTC - Mytouch 4g? I am pretty much a n00b even though I manage to pull a complete ultimate true root and s=off lol.
i have the original tmobile stock rom though, is there a just Android 2.2 or Android 2.3 Vanilla rom for HTC mytouch 4g?!
I've seen EvilZ and Ice galicier , but I am not sure which one to go about .
Any (good) suggestions would really help!
thanks a bunch.
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Search the dev section for nightly CM7, Its very vanilla-ish gingerbread and very stable btw, some pros?...improved battery life, open to customization, overall a better looking ui, runs silky smooth, and the kernel supports oc up to 1.5
Sent from my rooted glacier running CM7 and grankin's oc kernel
Thanks man!
but are those CM-7 nightly ones stable though?! I won't likely experience any SD-memory card errors, wifi not working , and etc *the usual problems* lol.
I would like to remain at 1 Ghz for now LOL. Just need a vanilla android version with tons of customizations though!
Also, since my phone is currently "ultimate perm true rooted + s=off " , I installd Rom Manager and did a Flash clockworkMod Recovery, only once though. Should I do it again? (twice)?
So, can you please tell me what is the true purpose of CWM? I know you can use it to recover, but recover what exactly and how is that possible?
Let's say I decide to get the CM-7 nightly version, what do I do need to do? (any specific guide) ive read general guides and I believe I did the right things lol.
Now with regarding flashing, it flashes the NAND chip right? :S So the apps i have installed and other tmobile junk will be lost? like it would be a complete full format process (similar to PC?)?
Thanks again! I appreciate it and I am looking through the thread and googling to learn .
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Thanks man!
but are those CM-7 nightly ones stable though?! I won't likely experience any SD-memory card errors, wifi not working , and etc *the usual problems* lol.
I would like to remain at 1 Ghz for now LOL. Just need a vanilla android version with tons of customizations though!
Also, since my phone is currently "ultimate perm true rooted + s=off " , I installd Rom Manager and did a Flash clockworkMod Recovery, only once though. Should I do it again? (twice)?
So, can you please tell me what is the true purpose of CWM? I know you can use it to recover, but recover what exactly and how is that possible?
Let's say I decide to get the CM-7 nightly version, what do I do need to do? (any specific guide) ive read general guides and I believe I did the right things lol.
Now with regarding flashing, it flashes the NAND chip right? :S So the apps i have installed and other tmobile junk will be lost? like it would be a complete full format process (similar to PC?)?
Thanks again! I appreciate it and I am looking through the thread and googling to learn .
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1. Regarding how stable it is..its super stablr considering its still an alpha and i trust it enough to use it as my daily driver (i need 100% reliability and the phone has never let me down). Only known bugs are qik not working (and its a 2.3 compatibility issue rather than a rom issue) and you can use tango instead, ffc has a reverted x-axis effect xD..., mms might be blurry (which is fixed by changin the ua undr mms settings) and some may have other bugs i have not yet noticed
2. Your current 2.5 cwm will not work with gb, you will need to flash any 3.xxx version to install cm7. Cwm is designed to do backups of ur current working system and can be restored in the events of ur phone acting up (i.e bootloops or major issues...) although its also used to easily install .zip files (cm7 is a rom contained in .zip file and will need to be installes via recovery), its used also to wipe the system cache, dalvik cache and/or full wipes in the events of issues.
3. Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916930#
Thats the nightly thread, you will have a "nightly" update you can flash thru recovery
4. If u go to cm7 you will have to (must) do a full wipe. Download titanium backup and back up ur existing apps and data (dont wanna lose ur angry birds progress), once cm7 is up just download tit bcup again and you'll have ur data back.
Hope this helped
Sent from my rooted glacier running CM7 and grankin's oc kernel
LimitsX said:
Thanks man!
but are those CM-7 nightly ones stable though?! I won't likely experience any SD-memory card errors, wifi not working , and etc *the usual problems* lol.
I would like to remain at 1 Ghz for now LOL. Just need a vanilla android version with tons of customizations though!
Also, since my phone is currently "ultimate perm true rooted + s=off " , I installd Rom Manager and did a Flash clockworkMod Recovery, only once though. Should I do it again? (twice)?
So, can you please tell me what is the true purpose of CWM? I know you can use it to recover, but recover what exactly and how is that possible?
Let's say I decide to get the CM-7 nightly version, what do I do need to do? (any specific guide) ive read general guides and I believe I did the right things lol.
Now with regarding flashing, it flashes the NAND chip right? :S So the apps i have installed and other tmobile junk will be lost? like it would be a complete full format process (similar to PC?)?
Thanks again! I appreciate it and I am looking through the thread and googling to learn .
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one question at a time, bro.
1)the CM7 Nightlies are "Fairly" stable, though they do have bugs, as they are not fully complete (then again, no rom really is devoid of bugs and things to improve).
2)as for flashing CWM a second time, sometimes the recovery doesnt stick and when you boot into recovery, you will still go to the stock recovery. The second flash of CWM should fix this, and you should go to the CWM screen.
3) The purpose of CWM is to flash the various ROMs you'll find in the Development Section of this area. It also allows you to create nandroid backups, which will allow you to restore your phone to a specific state in time if something goes wrong or something (also helps to flash back to a rom without having to reinstall everything, which takes forever)
4)to flash a gingerbread (either CM7 or otherwise) you'll need to flash the CWM 3 to your phone manually, using the methods laid out in several threads in the Dev section. then you'll need to flash the rom, plus the Gapps for that rom (google apps like gmail, market, etc)
5)and yes, flashing a new rom will wipe all the data f(apps, accounts, call and text logs, etc) from the previous rom the previous (or youll need to do so before flashing). Now you see why you make nandroid backups also, using a backup application like titanium or MyBackup can make that process much simpler.
Arighty. I've been reading that CM-7 nightly thread for now!
I am excited now to flash it! Plus your suggestion and said it is the most vanillaish rom avaliable .
Okay, so I have Rom Manager Preimum that is 3.0.0.7 and since I flashed it currently, so CWM is 2.5.1.2 .
and I need CWM 3.x?
Regarding CWM 3.x? theres ClockworkMod 3.0.0.5 and clockwork-3-20110116-MT4G.img .
Which one of the above CWM 3.x, is better to use? Also, they are in .img format, so how would I go about flashing it?
this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10670110&postcount=531
its using CWM 3.0.0.5 , is that a good method ?
And what happens to my current CWM 2.5.1.2? I already flashed it with that, do i need to "unflash" it ?
After that CWM, I use Titanium backup (i have pro version) to backup my apps + phone contacts right? I don't want to backup tmobile bloatware . I only the apps i paid for through android market.
And then, I download CM-7 and transfer it to my phone via usb cable to the sd card. Then use ROM Manager to flash it?!
thanks again!
jmwils3 said:
one question at a time, bro.
1)the CM7 Nightlies are "Fairly" stable, though they do have bugs, as they are not fully complete (then again, no rom really is devoid of bugs and things to improve).
2)as for flashing CWM a second time, sometimes the recovery doesnt stick and when you boot into recovery, you will still go to the stock recovery. The second flash of CWM should fix this, and you should go to the CWM screen.
3) The purpose of CWM is to flash the various ROMs you'll find in the Development Section of this area. It also allows you to create nandroid backups, which will allow you to restore your phone to a specific state in time if something goes wrong or something (also helps to flash back to a rom without having to reinstall everything, which takes forever)
4)to flash a gingerbread (either CM7 or otherwise) you'll need to flash the CWM 3 to your phone manually, using the methods laid out in several threads in the Dev section. then you'll need to flash the rom, plus the Gapps for that rom (google apps like gmail, market, etc)
5)and yes, flashing a new rom will wipe all the data f(apps, accounts, call and text logs, etc) from the previous rom the previous (or youll need to do so before flashing). Now you see why you make nandroid backups also, using a backup application like titanium or MyBackup can make that process much simpler.
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Thank you bro!
I appreciate all that information and effort you put into it.
And yes, you are right. All roms have flaws, they all need to be worked out . But, this tmobile rom is just a bit annoying .
I posted a reply already, so I believe i know how to go about doing this CM-7 stuff...but just need to make sure I go the steps and necessary backup done.
thanks!
p.s. can you transfer phone contacts to simcard in this CM-7 rom? tombile has this option shut off for android 2.2 for G2 and MYT4G~! i know HTC Desire Z Bell's rom has the option to save contacts on the simcard, :S. Unless theres some other issue that i am not aware of it.
LimitsX said:
Thank you bro!
I appreciate all that information and effort you put into it.
And yes, you are right. All roms have flaws, they all need to be worked out . But, this tmobile rom is just a bit annoying .
I posted a reply already, so I believe i know how to go about doing this CM-7 stuff...but just need to make sure I go the steps and necessary backup done.
thanks!
p.s. can you transfer phone contacts to simcard in this CM-7 rom? tombile has this option shut off for android 2.2 for G2 and MYT4G~! i know HTC Desire Z Bell's rom has the option to save contacts on the simcard, :S. Unless theres some other issue that i am not aware of it.
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well, Im running a Desire HD port (gorillaSense), so my rom has that feature, but I havent used CM7 in a little while. However, if you sync your contacts to google instead of t-mobile, youll have all of them no matter what rom you use, no matter if it has t-mobile contacts or sim card contacts or anything.
and yeah, the t-mobile rom is annoying, thats why I got off it as soon as I could and never looked back. Personally I prefer the Sense ROMs, but I can see the merits of the CM and AOSP ROMs too, its personal preference.
LimitsX said:
Thank you bro!
I appreciate all that information and effort you put into it.
And yes, you are right. All roms have flaws, they all need to be worked out . But, this tmobile rom is just a bit annoying .
I posted a reply already, so I believe i know how to go about doing this CM-7 stuff...but just need to make sure I go the steps and necessary backup done.
thanks!
p.s. can you transfer phone contacts to simcard in this CM-7 rom? tombile has this option shut off for android 2.2 for G2 and MYT4G~! i know HTC Desire Z Bell's rom has the option to save contacts on the simcard, :S. Unless theres some other issue that i am not aware of it.
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K, so i checked the settings on the contact application and you can only export your stored contacts to the SD card, you are able to import from SIM but not to export to SIM. Like the post above stated though, as long as you are on an android phone you will have your contacts synced
I perma-rooted my T-Mobile G2, but now I'm lost.
Since I can't flash official ROMs, what can I do to update OS? Are there any options besides CM7? If I switch to CM7, does it mean I lose all my previous installations? And does it mean I'm stuck with CM forever? When do you expect official version of CM7 to be released?
Thank you in advance.
You can flash any ROM you want. There are many good solid ones in the Development forum here and other android forums of course.
If you're looking to back up your apps before you install a ROM (because you must wipe all data when installing new ROMs) I'd advise you download an app called Titanium Backup. I use it regularly when switching ROMs and it really is necessary. This can back up all apps, app data, and even system data if you want. You can then restore after flashing your new ROM.
CM7 is at RC-1 (Release Candidate) which means that it has been declared stable enough with few enough bugs for the general public. I've personally been running nightlies for a few weeks now with no issues, and the RC-1 seems to be similar. There really is no date for when it will become an official release, but if you're up for waiting that's totally understandable.
If you don't wanna go with the CM7 RC route, you can always go to one of the other Sense-based ROMs, or even CM6 which has been extremely stable for a long time now. You can always just check out one of the stock 2.2 roms as well, they're often optimized with no bloatware and often run quicker than the stock ROM with perm root you have now.
Changing ROMs is easy, and just because you decide one doesn't mean you can't switch to another. Just use the app "ROM manager" to backup, wipe, and install different ROMs as you see fit.
Basically which ROM you choose is up to you. Just look through the dev forum and check out the offerings, read then ask questions and try them out. I definitely recommend reading some of the stickies about backing up/flashing/etc. before you get going.
Kinda hard for me to give more info because it seems like you're pretty new. I'd just advise that you read up on everything and always do backups before you flash any ROM or update in order to restore if you run into issues.
tulgaa said:
I perma-rooted my T-Mobile G2, but now I'm lost.
Since I can't flash official ROMs, what can I do to update OS? Are there any options besides CM7? If I switch to CM7, does it mean I lose all my previous installations? And does it mean I'm stuck with CM forever? When do you expect official version of CM7 to be released?
Thank you in advance.
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1. Download and install ROM Manager and within ROM Manager flash ClockworkMod Recovery. This will allow you to create and restore complete backups of your phone. This should be the first thing you do. Second, create a backup (a Nandroid). It will be almost impossible to screw things up permanently with ClockworkMod Recovery installed and a backup on your sd card.
2. After you have a backup created, you can start trying different ROMs and if you don't like it, just try another one or restore your backup. You can even have multiple backups of different ROMs and switch back and forth if you want.
3. You are going to see a lot of references to gapps, which is short for Google Apps. Many ROMs come pre-loaded with gapps - Cyanogen was stopped by Google from incorporating them into his ROM's so the package is made available to flash immediately after you flash a CM ROM. Once you log in to Google with your account (use the same one every time) all your market apps will start downloading from the market automatically - that is all the apps that you had actively installed before you switched ROMs. Your phone will be sluggish at first while it updates all your market apps. To backup apps that you've installed from your sd card, download Titanium backup.
4. Now that you're rooted you aren't stuck with anything. Your options are wide open. Just look over the XDA site. It'll be obvious how much you can do with your phone now.
I'm on CM7 now and its very stable. Download build #41 - 42 should be out by the morning. If you decide to go with that, you won't believe how much more your phone has to offer than the stock ROM. I don't believe you'll ever want to go back to stock again, but if you do there's information here in the forums to do that including unrooting your phone.
I agree with this, read about the different roms in the G2 Development Section especially.
It's a bit confusing with all the roms, but as long as you backup your rooted setup now, you should be free and fine to try several different ones. (See step 1 about by EdKeys).
I recommend purchasing Titanium Backup...it will allow you to reinstall all your apps relatively quickly and keep all saves/settings.
Try out a sense rom (for example Virtuous) as well as CM7. I tried out sense before, but it makes the phone feel slow despite being very cool. When I first rooted my G2 I went straight for Cyanogenmod 6.1.1, as it was the stable version. Cyanogenmod 7 RC1 is way better.
Good luck and I hope you find something you like!
I highly recommend Virtuous.
Also, this isn't stated anywhere normally, so I'll share with you: I absolutely suggest using ROM Manager for most everything - it's a GUI for Clockworkmod, basically, and makes things a bit easier.
HOWEVER
The only ROMs you'll find in ROM Manager are ones that the developer has submitted. Not all devs care that much, so you'll find a TON more ROMs to try in the Development subforum. To flash one of those, simply download the .zip file of the ROM to your memory card (it doesn't matter where, you could put it on the root or you could create a 'romstotry' folder if you wanted).
Once you have the zip file on your memory card, open ROM Manager, choose 'Install Zip from SDcard' and show ROM Manager which zip file you want to use. IT'll then pop up and ask if you want to wipe, and if you want to backup your current ROM.
If you're switching between two different ROMs, you *always* want to wipe. Always. If you're simply installing a new version of the ROM you currently have installed, you don't *need* to wipe (unless the dev specifically says that you need to, so read the changelogs), but it's a good idea to do so anyways. You'll have a bit more setup to do, but wiping will prevent most problems that people seem to have.
hope that helps.
Thank you very much all. I installed CM 7 RC1 and it works great. I will try other ROMs when I get familiar with CM.
tulgaa said:
I perma-rooted my T-Mobile G2, but now I'm lost.
Since I can't flash official ROMs, what can I do to update OS? Are there any options besides CM7? If I switch to CM7, does it mean I lose all my previous installations? And does it mean I'm stuck with CM forever? When do you expect official version of CM7 to be released?
Thank you in advance.
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Hi - the first thing I did after perma-root was change the boot animation for my G2 - you can do it by hand, or you can use an application located in market - just search for 'boot animation.'
After that's it's straight to the custom ROMs - I'm using Sense Virtuous 1.0.0 and loving it.
Apologies for the state of this question, but it's been a while
I've been using CM7 on my unlocked Defy since I bought it (6-8 months). However, recently it's gotten a lot more unstable; it freezes up all the time, I can't wake it up, google maps will crash half the time, the camera too, and it involves me restarting it a fair bit. I need to sort it out and I thought I could take this opportunity to try out a new ROM
However I haven't done anything ROM related for a while, and the computer I originally rooted/installed a new ROM on my Defy with is no long gone...so I'm not even sure what programs I need to install.
I seem to remember, the way the Defy is set up, it isn't as simple as wiping the phone and installing any ROM on it?
Could anyone point me in the direction of a guide on here dedicated to moving from CM7 to another ROM? From scratch? Failing that, I may be tempted to just try and wipe and get CM7 on there from the beginning...not even sure where to start
Thanks
If you want to flash a stock ROM, you need to flash the SBF through RSDLite.
While to flash a custom ROM(CM7,CM9), boot into recovery, wipe all, flash the zip from sdcard.
neo.ank said:
If you want to flash a stock ROM, you need to flash the SBF through RSDLite.
While to flash a custom ROM(CM7,CM9), boot into recovery, wipe all, flash the zip from sdcard.
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nice one, thanks. It's just as simple as that when changing from one ROM to another? I thought something to do with how the Defy's memory worked meant some kind of 'backtracking; wasn't possible
insurgente said:
nice one, thanks. It's just as simple as that when changing from one ROM to another? I thought something to do with how the Defy's memory worked meant some kind of 'backtracking; wasn't possible
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Yep, that simple. You could try Pikachu Edition, for example, which is even easier (just get into Recovery, install zip, choose the zip file and then AROMA installer does almost everything that's needed). I'm just starting to try it, many people like it.
If you move between CM7 nightlies it isn't even necessary to wipe data, but given your condition, I would recommend you to wipe everything and start again (remember to backup apps and data).
Good luck!
great, always good to see a bit of pikachu
can I go straight from CM7 to pikachu via a wipe? isn't CM7 on kernel 2.3.7?