Hi all- I have a 16gb GT10.1 and, while 16gb of storage was more than I could have dreamt of having in my first computer, it's not a lot once you've had your tablet for a few months. 100 apps + copilot GPS maps (deleted all but NA) + a gig of music, and I end up so low on space I can't do a new backup. I don't keep any videos on the tab, but it's fine with me because streaming works great on the GT10.1 (allshare, netflix, grooveshark, and google music beta FTW!). With only one nandroid backup and one Titanium backup I still find that I usually don't have more than 1-3 gigs of space left, and it often drops to less than one gig, especially if I forget to delete my old nandroid backup. Using the "clear data" function when installing a new ROM through CWM doesn't affect your SD card.
So I decided that it was time to figure out what was hogging my SDcard. I found a few files and directories that can be deleted without ill effect (at least as far as I can tell, I backed them up on my laptop just in case). So far I haven't deleted anything I use and I'm up to about 5 gigs free.
I'll post what I've found here, but I'm sure there's more. If you know of other directories, files, or apps that take up significant space and can be safely deleted, or other ways to free up space, put them into the comments and I'll try to update the OP. Also, try to figure out what the files are for and put that information in too.
***Warning: I am not responsible for deleting your important files, your backups, your homework, or your favorite picture of your cat. Everything in this thread has been tested by me or by at least 2 other forum users (hint, hint), but that doesn't guarantee that it won't set your tablet or your hair on fire. Use this guide at your own risk***
Big files that can be deleted:
mnt/sdcard/DCIM/.thumbnails/.thumbdata3-xxxxxxx
(Has something to do with a database of thumbnails. Deleting it has not had any effect on me, but I don't use my tab for photos. Mine was 124mb).
Directories that can have ALL files in them deleted:
mnt/sdcard/Android/data/com.amazon.venezia/cache/
(This is where the Amazon Appstore puts downloaded apks, including the daily free ones, and it NEVER gets cleared out. Mine was almost 2gb when I found it.)
mnt/sdcard/ScreenCapture/
(This is where all those screencaptures you accidentally took went. I've personally never intentionally taken a screen capture...)
Apps that can be deleted
Coming soon! (Haven't flashed Task's newest (v11) yet and I think he finally got rid of some of the garbage that I have to uninstall every time I flash... Will update this list when I do)
Other ways to save space:
Titanium backup: [preferences menu]
Backup app external data
(Allows you to choose whether you want to backup app data every time you do a Titanium backup. Serious reduction in the size of your backup, but with a pretty obvious disadvantage... Check the next option for something less drastic)
Select external data by max size
(Allows you to choose the maximum size of app external data backup. Default is to keep 32mb or smaller data caches. Most apps don't exceed that, but the few that do - like copilot - don't get backed up. I didn't mess with this one but)
Max backup history : set to "1"
(Sets the number of backup data "points." One is plenty unless you want double or triple backups)
Also, check this directory:
mnt/sdcard/Android/data/
This is where most app data goes. I found lots of stuff here that I didn't need any more. It's worth mentioning that this is where music you set as "offline" on google music beta is stored.
*Tip* Most of the subfolders are easy to identify as software you own, but sometimes you'll find that an app didn't uninstall properly and the data is still there!
Hope this helps! Please add your ideas for significant space savings in the comments.
**Update: So just after I originally posted this, Task650 started making a "slim" version of his ROM. Though none of the stuff above is affected, he's taken out many of the crappy Samsung programs and saved a lot of space that way. I usually had to use Titanium Backup to delete those programs with every new flash; now there's no reason to! I definitely recommend that ROM.
**Update 2: Just wanted to say "thanks" to the person (or persons) who voted this thread 5 stars. Also "thanks" to the person (or persons) who voted it one star. That's awesome of you.
DecrAPPify - removable apps list
Here's a list of apps installed in stock 3.2 (and some custom ROMs) that can be safely removed.
You may want some of these depending on your uses, so don't just remove them because you can...
Delete these with Titanium Backup. You might have to go into the settings and turn on "Chuck Norris Mode" (I didn't make that up).
/data/app/com.androidapps.spare_parts-1.apk
/data/app/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup.apk
/system/app/Asus_Weather.apk
/system/app/BluetoothTest.apk
/system/app/CalendarGoogle.apk
/system/app/ChocoEUKor.apk
/system/app/ChromeBookmarksSyncAdapter.apk
/system/app/Dlna.apk
/system/app/DualClock.apk
/system/app/Ebook.apk
/system/app/FactoryTest.apk
/system/app/Finsky.apk
/system/app/fotaclient.apk
/system/app/GoogleFeedback.apk
/system/app/GooglePartnerSetup.apk
/system/app/HelvNeueLT.apk
/system/app/HTMLViewer.apk
/system/app/Kies.apk
/system/app/kieswifi.apk
/system/app/lcdTest.apk
/system/app/LiveWallpapersPicker.apk
/system/app/Memo.apk
/system/app/mini_penmemo.apk
/system/app/MiniTwCalculatorService.apk
/system/app/MobilePrint.apk
/system/app/MusicPlayer.apk
/system/app/oem_install_flash_player.apk
/system/app/PenMemo.apk
/system/app/PhotoEditor.apk
/system/app/PRUI.apk
/system/app/Quickoffice.apk
/system/app/Roboto.apk
/system/app/signin.apk
/system/app/SnsAccountFb.apk
/system/app/SnsAccountLi.apk
/system/app/SnsAccountTw.apk
/system/app/SnsDisclaimer.apk
/system/app/SnsImageCache.apk
/system/app/SnsProvider.apk
/system/app/SoundRecorder.apk
/system/app/Swype.apk
/system/app/Vending.apk
/system/app/VideoEditorGoogle.apk
/system/app/Videos.apk
/system/app/wipereceiver.apk
/system/app/WorldClock.apk
/system/app/wssomacp.apk
/system/app/wssyncmlnps.apk
As above, if I've missed any, please let me know!
Thanks for the list twa_priv!
** Most of these apps have been removed in Galaxy Task v12 slim **
Or you can get cache cleaner from market. It help cleared a few more mb's . Disk space is another app that can show you what's taking up the space.
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It amazes me how much crap accumulates on my tab as well - thanks for starting this thread.
A couple suggestions that I've found useful, too:
1. NANDROID backups - each of mine is at least 1GB - keep an eye on how many you're keeping around... I'm a bit of a flash-junkie, so I have 2 currently, but usually only keep one around;
2. SD Maid in the market is pretty useful at rooting out junk.... I only use the free version, so not sure how much more the paid one would remove - but every time I've run it, I usually can clear up a few 100mb.
Hope it helps!
I just do a factory reset every few months. Gets rid of a lot of crap.
Most people don't like this method because they want to "settle in" and doing a factory reset upsets the nest. However, I like to experiment a lot with apps and a reset clears out the experiments. It lets me start all over fresh.
TabGuy said:
I just do a factory reset every few months. Gets rid of a lot of crap.
Most people don't like this method because they want to "settle in" and doing a factory reset upsets the nest. However, I like to experiment a lot with apps and a reset clears out the experiments. It lets me start all over fresh.
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Most of us serial flashers are doing factory resets weekly...if not nightly.
slack04 said:
Big files that can be deleted:
Hope this helps! Please add your ideas for significant space savings in the comments.
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Thanks for the effort!
Where could I find a "summary" of the Android file structure (no joy with google search)? Let say, a factory install of Android 2.2 or 3.0 or whatever.
It would be interesting to know what each directory is for.
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Most of us serial flashers are doing factory resets weekly...if not nightly.
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In the last 3 weeks Ive probably did a full wipe at least 20 times all on my phone though
Since Ive installed the CM KANG I havent wanted to flash anything else
DT3CH said:
In the last 3 weeks Ive probably did a full wipe at least 20 times all on my phone though
Since Ive installed the CM KANG I havent wanted to flash anything else
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Just to be clear: there's a difference between a "full wipe" (which most people mean is just using the "clear data" function in CWM) and a factory reset (which is done by going to Settings-->Privacy-->Factory Data Reset.)
The factory data reset deletes everything on the tab. I personally never use this; there's no advantage to the user since the android system sees it as an SD card. The full wipe deletes the system partition and that's the only thing that makes a difference when you're installing a new ROM.
Think of it this way: There are 3 partitions. Android is installed on one partition and an image of the stock ROM is saved on another backup partition. A third partition is just for data (this is what you see when you plug your tab into windows). When you factory reset, you're formatting both the android partition and the data partition, then installing the ROM on the android partition and recreating the file structure on the data partition. Wipe data, on the other hand, just formats the android partition--which is where the ROM is loaded. (BTW--This is totally oversimplified, if you're a dev don't flame, I'm just trying to make it easier to understand. Also, don't ever mess with the partitions on your tablet...)
BTW- This is similar to how I manage my Windows computers. I have the same three partitions described above. Every 8 weeks or so I write down the applications I want to permanently add to my system; make sure all my data is transferred to the data partition; figure out what tweaks and applications I've added since the last time I imaged the drive (I keep a list); and then I format the windows partition and reinstall the most recent image. Then I set all the tweaks and add all the applications I wrote down; run a windows update; and reimage the drive (and save the image on the recovery partition). This way my windows installation is always like brand new, except with all the updates done, all my programs installed, and all system options configured. My data is completely unaffected, and I can do this in about 15 minutes.
got556 said:
Most of us serial flashers are doing factory resets weekly...if not nightly.
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That's what Titanium Backup is for
Related
After speaking with a friend about a biweekly hard reset "schedule," I've decided to research the eversopopular application from SPB Software, which is their backup application, SPB Backup.
I've heard many good things about it, in terms of reliability, consistency, and the easy to use interface.
Now, having said all of that... are there programs that allow for a COMPLETE SYSTEM BACKUP & RESTORE? As in... all of the modifications, applications, registry, etc. I have now are SAVED, BACKED UP, and capable of being restored onto my device without consequence.
Is SPB Backup the ideal program for this? Please, feel free to offer your suggestions below... thank you in advance.
I have used SPB Backup on my HTC Kaiser and it did a complete phone backup minus the stuff in Rom. In other words, if I did a complete backup & did a hard reset, it would restore the phone back exactly to the state it was(MINUS what was on the SD card). So if you installed anything on the SD card, you would want to do a separate manual backup of your card. I restored numerous backups onto the Kaiser & it ALWAYS restored accurately and completely.
I have been using SPB Backup to backup my HD2, but have yet to do a complete restore from a hard reset (haven't had to). Maybe someone else can verify that it is 100% restoring fine....... Hope this info helps.
By the way, on Twitter, you stated that you found a "handy" application that allows you to automatically switch between interfaces such as: SPBMS, Titanium, and HTC Sense...... what's the name of it?.... TIA.
BIOYAM said:
I have used SPB Backup on my HTC Kaiser and it did a complete phone backup minus the stuff in Rom. In other words, if I did a complete backup & did a hard reset, it would restore the phone back exactly to the state it was(MINUS what was on the SD card). So if you installed anything on the SD card, you would want to do a separate manual backup of your card. I restored numerous backups onto the Kaiser & it ALWAYS restored accurately and completely.
I have been using SPB Backup to backup my HD2, but have yet to do a complete restore from a hard reset (haven't had to). Maybe someone else can verify that it is 100% restoring fine....... Hope this info helps.
By the way, on Twitter, you stated that you found a "handy" application that allows you to automatically switch between interfaces such as: SPBMS, Titanium, and HTC Sense...... what's the name of it?.... TIA.
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Thank you for the reply.
I'll look a little further into this.
As for that application for switching between interfaces... I came across that on PPCGeeks from a guy named, "Darkness" who also created most of the disabling .CAB files for Titanium and Sense.
His interface switcher works really well. I downloaded the one specifically designed for Titanium and Sense. NOT THE SPB MOBILE SHELL VERSION!
And one more thing... all of the .CAB files I have installed, I installed them to my device, not my storage card. So, if those files are on my device... would those be backed up within the files that SPB Backup compresses?
Reignzone said:
........ As for that application for switching between interfaces... I came across that on PPCGeeks from a guy named, "Darkness" who also created most of the disabling .CAB files for Titanium and Sense.
His interface switcher works really well. I downloaded the one specifically designed for Titanium and Sense. NOT THE SPB MOBILE SHELL VERSION!
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Thanks for this info .... I'll check it out.
Reignzone said:
And one more thing... all of the .CAB files I have installed, I installed them to my device, not my storage card. So, if those files are on my device... would those be backed up within the files that SPB Backup compresses?
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Those .cab files would definitely be captured in the backup.
It hasn't had a completely good press but I use Sprite Backup on my HD2. I suppose it's habit after I first used it on my hx4700.
It will restore my HD2 to its backed up state, settings, programs, registry and tweaks. It will back up storage cards if you want it too. It has a mode that allows restoration of suitable data to another device too. It can back up to a network.
I schedule it to run daily and use it at other times as needed. When I restore, I usually hard reset first. Setting Sprite to 'delete all files' during a restoration does much the same. I set it to replace settings. The registry can be replaced or merged; it seems that this makes no difference.
The program has yet to let me down do I haven't felt the need to try SPB Backup.
You might also try the backup feature in SKTools. I find it works well and the software has additional uses.
BIOYAM said:
Thanks for this info .... I'll check it out.
Those .cab files would definitely be captured in the backup.
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Thank you again for your feedback.
I'm definitely feeling a little bit better about entrusting this software with my precious files.
DrATty said:
It hasn't had a completely good press but I use Sprite Backup on my HD2. I suppose it's habit after I first used it on my hx4700.
It will restore my HD2 to its backed up state, settings, programs, registry and tweaks. It will back up storage cards if you want it too. It has a mode that allows restoration of suitable data to another device too. It can back up to a network.
I schedule it to run daily and use it at other times as needed. When I restore, I usually hard reset first. Setting Sprite to 'delete all files' during a restoration does much the same. I set it to replace settings. The registry can be replaced or merged; it seems that this makes no difference.
The program has yet to let me down do I haven't felt the need to try SPB Backup.
You might also try the backup feature in SKTools. I find it works well and the software has additional uses.
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And thank you kind sir for your reply as well.
All the opinions and facts here certainly make me feel more comfortable with this process, as I am YET to actually perform a backup... not once. So, I figure it's better late than never, right?
I'll look into SKTools and certainly do some research about the Sprite software for Windows Mobile, because I'm familiar with their work for Android. On the Android platform, it did the job quite well.
Thanks again. All of this was reassuring.
I use SPB backup all the time on my HD2.. i have it scheduled to make a complete backup + SD card every second night..
It works very well and have tried to restore several times (just to test) without any problems!
However if you flash a new rom i would not advice you to do a complete backup, but instead make a partially backup of documents, contacts, email and so on..
It even keeps your email signature and settings when doing the parcial backup, so i also use it everytime i flash a new rom, together with either xda UC or auto install from sd card..
Hope it helps, and i can say for sure that this software works perfect with both EU and US roms..
Happy backup
never put your money in one place..means never trust 1 app for your backup specially you got a rahter-die-than-lose-your-files files
not so often i meet my bad luck to restore my files from such spb restore app but lucky me i had 2 similar backup from 3 backup apps maybe u will make it 2 apps thinking about space left
and always save at least 2 backup files with the same app but different time, kind'a storage eater right??but this useful when u got error from another file
hope this useful for u
maverick_endit81 said:
never put your money in one place..means never trust 1 app for your backup specially you got a rahter-die-than-lose-your-files files
not so often i meet my bad luck to restore my files from such spb restore app but lucky me i had 2 similar backup from 3 backup apps maybe u will make it 2 apps thinking about space left
and always save at least 2 backup files with the same app but different time, kind'a storage eater right??but this useful when u got error from another file
hope this useful for u
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...And check the restoration process before you need to use it in anger. Finding that there is something wrong with your backup files when you need to use them in anger is... frustrating.
I mentioned Sprite's ability to restore data to a new device. This includes devices where the ROM has been replaced. I haven't tried it and obviously, not everything can be transferred. The migration features might be useful in your situation though.
Microsoft's myPhone is worth a mention. It can be used to backup your PIM data and documents, photographs and music. I haven't tried using it to restore anything yet though. My PIM data is saved in Outlook and that is backed up to hard disks and in the Cloud via iDrive, DropBox, Humyo and Live MESH. It's probably the one thing I can least afford to lose.
I would appreciate if anyone told me if the SPB Backup utility backs up the SPB Mobile Shell layout as well (the way the icons are arranged and other stuff like that). That would REALLY help me save some precious time ...
SPB Backup - Great App
I bought this application a couple of days ago and I do a backup before I install some questionable apps or just in case I don't like the way it changed other things on my HD2. But I decided to go with the ROM from Sergio and everything seemed fine until I missed some calls and I just didn't like the changes on IE so this morning I decided to try my backup restore. I flashed back to the stock ROM and then ran my backup EXE file. It asked if I wanted to change the time to the current time (Sprite Backup doesn't have this option and restores to the backup time so you have to manually change it) so I moved forward. The backup was just the way I left it. I am glad I purchased this software. Just my 2 cents.
anrabi4 said:
I would appreciate if anyone told me if the SPB Backup utility backs up the SPB Mobile Shell layout as well (the way the icons are arranged and other stuff like that). That would REALLY help me save some precious time ...
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Sprite Backup can; it depends on the settings used. I think I'm right in saying that both Sprite and SPB Backup will restore a device to exactly the same state it was at when the backup was made. The only exceptions are where files on a storage card that were used by an application in internal memory have been changed or deleted since the backup was made. Files on removable storage can be added to backups in Sprite to avoid this happening.
dgreening said:
...It asked if I wanted to change the time to the current time (Sprite Backup doesn't have this option and restores to the backup time so you have to manually change it) so I moved forward...
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Sprite Backup leaves the time alone. I used to hard reset (or delete all files and replace settings) and restore the backup. My HD2 sets the time itself either just after the reset or just after the restoration is complete so I find I don't need to do anything. It hasn't caused any problems that I am aware of so far.
dgreening said:
I bought this application a couple of days ago and I do a backup before I install some questionable apps or just in case I don't like the way it changed other things on my HD2. But I decided to go with the ROM from Sergio and everything seemed fine until I missed some calls and I just didn't like the changes on IE so this morning I decided to try my backup restore. I flashed back to the stock ROM and then ran my backup EXE file. It asked if I wanted to change the time to the current time (Sprite Backup doesn't have this option and restores to the backup time so you have to manually change it) so I moved forward. The backup was just the way I left it. I am glad I purchased this software. Just my 2 cents.
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Agreed.
I caved in last night and purchased the SPB Software program as well.
I backed up my system last night... surprisingly though, it was much "smaller" than I had originally expected it to be. Something around 80MB, at least that's what the application "calculated" it was going to be. I suppose that could be in compressed form though...
Anyway, it seems to have done the job well. And I certainly love that I was able to create a backup copy on my SD Card, along with my desktop PC.
I also have SK Tools... so I think having a couple if not MORE than a few system restore and backup utilities is a good thing.
low-dogg said:
I use SPB backup all the time on my HD2.. i have it scheduled to make a complete backup + SD card every second night..
It works very well and have tried to restore several times (just to test) without any problems!
However if you flash a new rom i would not advice you to do a complete backup, but instead make a partially backup of documents, contacts, email and so on..
It even keeps your email signature and settings when doing the parcial backup, so i also use it everytime i flash a new rom, together with either xda UC or auto install from sd card..
Hope it helps, and i can say for sure that this software works perfect with both EU and US roms..
Happy backup
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When I'm looking in the partial possibilities for restoring with the SPB, I can find in the "customize restore" those:
PIM DATA (CONTACTS, TASKS, APPOINTMENTS,...)
EMAILS
TEXT MESSAGES
MY DOCUMENTS
SYSTEM DATA (including: CUSTOMIZE... RESTORE FILES, RESTORE DATABASES and RESTORE REGISTRY)
If I flash a new rom, which exactly possibilities I have to choose?
SPB Backup works perfectly for me. Scheduled backup every night, restore complete system after hard reset, etc.
Don't forget the precious desktop companion SPBBackupUnpack: extract files, registry keys ... and more.
harrygol said:
When I'm looking in the partial possibilities for restoring with the SPB, I can find in the "customize restore" those:
PIM DATA (CONTACTS, TASKS, APPOINTMENTS,...)
EMAILS
TEXT MESSAGES
MY DOCUMENTS
SYSTEM DATA (including: CUSTOMIZE... RESTORE FILES, RESTORE DATABASES and RESTORE REGISTRY)
If I flash a new rom, which exactly possibilities I have to choose?
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I have restored PIM data, system databases, documents, mail and text messages between devices with Sprite Backup and it has worked perfectly. That includes the same device with different ROMs and even entirely different devices. Restoring the registry and software is sometimes problematic but SPB Backup has a ROM upgrade mode to help here.
I'd check out the support forum for your particular solution to see what works. Restoring the wrong items used to cause trouble and could create quite a mess. I haven't heard of anything in particular since the new restore modes were introduced.
Call me old fashioned, but, backup/restore tools always make me feel uneasy.
I know that there are many for whom they run "faultlessly" and for certain problems they really do offer solutions, however, the one situation that I have a concern about is the backup/restore across a ROM change, be it either a simple stock upgrade or a cooked ROM flash.
You would be throwing a set of data at a virgin phone that had been collected from a setup that had presumably either failed or been superceded!
In either event I would want to know that any potentially destabalising ellements had been eliminated and not "carried over" to, what should be, a fresh setup.
I can remember horrific problems caused by advice to use backup/restore on many other phones and they were all identified as having been situations in which the use was applied across a ROM change.
And lets be clear about this, we have enough trouble with badly coded software as it is. You only have to run down the new daily posts in these forums to see how difficult it is for many to achieve a stable/useable phone and that situation quite often occurs right out of the box!
For my part I must admit that I have become particularly fond of MyPhone.
It has always done the job for me, although I only use it for basic PIM restore after a new ROM flash, which I seem to be doing every couple of days at the moment. However, I do also allow it to retain a copy of my photos and music, but, I've never restored from it as the file sizes and subsequent time taken are too great.
I have identically synced (from within my laptop file manager, but, I have had need to do it directly phone to phone!) MSD cards of the same size in two seperate phones one being the HD2 and the other being a Nokia E71. These cards hold music, photos, documents, downloads, a section for reinstall apps and my current and previous ROM and radio images. This means that the cards are interchangeable and I keep an image of them on a USB stick. My apps are never installed to mem card.
My final piece of backup is by way of my trusty Ameo which holds one more complete data and app set.
So if any two pieces of equipment fail I can still recover the situation and notice that I give only passing mention to a PC or laptop.
I access MyPhone through my mobile broadband WiFi router which is constantly on and is powered through a UPS which gives about three days backup use.
With all this I have got a task 29, new ROM flash, reinstall of apps and settings down to about 35 mins.
It just came to me that we do lavish a lot of attention our our little pals!
Don't we?
Too much? LOL.
SPB BACKUP FAILED FOR ME ON HTC Touch PRO 2
I was used to restore my Touch 3g and my Qtek S200 with SPB backup and at all times successfully. So, I updated to last SPB backup software version (of course I bought that software). On Saturday I did something erroneous on my TP2 and needed to hard reset. After that, I tried to restore my full backups, one after other from newer to older and a total of 15. All of them restored apparently well, but HTC sense did not start-up any longer in any of the cases. I had to manually re-install all the stuff back and I just restore the emails and PIM from the backup. The PIM database did not longer sync with my Outlook. I had to recreate the partnership. After that, all my notifications were duplicated... a complete mess. I cannot understand what went wrong, because the backup and restore log files where always showing no error. I am using the stock ROM (WM6.5 + HTC sense 2.5) and all my software is either legal or GPL. Nothing special on my device apart of all my beloved data.
So that is my experience with SPB backup that was always good, has turned to be negative. Of course, now I am afraid to try again.
Anybody has experience the same?
Any idea?
Thanks folks.
I have a Vibrant with fusion 1.1 that is going back to T-mobile. Is there a way to just clone everything on this phone to the new phone.
Can I just copy Titanium backup form the old phone and put it on the sd card of the new one. Is there a better method?
You need to flash back to stock using odin, just go to the development section and click om the.sticky, under odin roms. Click the.stock one and flash,
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iwillkillyou said:
You need to flash back to stock using odin, just go to the development section and click om the.sticky, under odin roms. Click the.stock one and flash,
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That wasn't his question... Like at all...
I'd do a nandroid and back up the apps and data in titanium and save them to the SD and then put that SD in the new phone that comes.
Oh haha sorry I didnt read the whole thread, yea peform a nandroid
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kuhan said:
That wasn't his question... Like at all...
I'd do a nandroid and back up the apps and data in titanium and save them to the SD and then put that SD in the new phone that comes.
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What would happen if I copied all the contents of the internal memory (all files ,all folders) then copied those over the contents of the new phones internal memory?. Nandroid and TB are not normally saved to the external SD card.
Or should I just load the new rom on the new phone and just copy the TB folder to the new phone and restore from that?
Nandroid and titanium are a good start but neither of those will do things like modem files.
So I would add on the new phone do a base install of fusion 1.1 with the appropriate kernel, i think you said was your rom, then a nandroid restore and that should get you there
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I have a Vibrant with fusion 1.1 that is going back to T-mobile. Is there a way to just clone everything on this phone to the new phone.
Can I just copy Titanium backup form the old phone and put it on the sd card of the new one. Is there a better method?
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I'll chime in with my opinion. Granted my opinion comes from my experiences constantly experimenting with different roms. I've flashed the phone this month almost as often as I've received actual phone calls for crying out loud!
The amount of time expended on looking for such a perfect method seems to be greater than the amount of time spent merely reconstructing an equivalent environment.
Keeping all of my contacts on google and using appbrain to have the ability to keep a known inventory of apps...I can reconstruct my daily driver environment from one rom to another in about 30 minutes max without the need to explicitly backup anything.
Though this may not work for everyone, it surely would work for most. Just a thought...
Using AppBrain would mean you would have to constantly re-download your apps. Also, this does not save the settings and what about apps that are not on the market?
I use Titanium Backup if I want to transfer all my apps and settings. Nandroid would be very appropriate to transfer over all the of phone's data, granted you also manually include the correct modem and kernel.
Doing a Titanium Restore surely takes less time then redownloading and installing from the market, especially if you have the Pro version as it is MUCH MUCH quicker.
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Using AppBrain would mean you would have to constantly re-download your apps. Also, this does not save the settings and what about apps that are not on the market?
I use Titanium Backup if I want to transfer all my apps and settings. Nandroid would be very appropriate to transfer over all the of phone's data, granted you also manually include the correct modem and kernel.
Doing a Titanium Restore surely takes less time then redownloading and installing from the market, especially if you have the Pro version as it is MUCH MUCH quicker.
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Titanium can save some time, but honestly not enough to write home about, at least for me. It's a matter of a few minutes different in my experience.
The reason why I do not use Titanium, despite the fact that it can save some time is that it can lead to complications especially when bouncing between 2.1 and 2.2 derivative roms, depending on what you back up of course. I'll use it when I'm staying within the domain of 2.1...or staying within the domain of 2.2. Crossing those domains however I never use Titanium. I've had more problems than not, and admittedly that may be due to my ignorance of what things are truly safe to restore across different versions of Android.
Then again I'm probably unusual compared to the OP, in that I experiment with EVERYTHING, up to and including a little bit of my own firmware cooking after the fact. Every firmware and experimental firmware and filesystem hack has at some point been on this phone, but that's how I roll.
Doing without deliberate backups hasn't drastically changed my restore times. Setting up the few apps that require setup takes a matter of seconds when I decide to use that app.
It's nice to get a fresh install - just TB and and reinstall after!
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Oh haha sorry I didnt read the whole thread, yea peform a nandroid
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You didn't even read the title of the thread before clicking it, bro....
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if you want exact - nandroid
otherwise use TitaniumBackup Pro
This is what I would do. I would perform a nandroid. After doing so I would then copy everything in the internal sd to your computer. When the new phone comes. Copy everything into the new phone's internal sd. Root your phone, install clockwork mod. Flash a new rom if you want if not no biggy. Load up into clockwork mod, do an advanced restore, restore data only. Reboot. Reboot again. Load back into clockwork mod, clear cache and dalvik. Reboot twice. Run fix permissions. Reboot. Everything should work with no errors and it will look identical to your last vibrant. You could condense this but I wrote it so that you could install buncha diff roms without having to do titanium restore because that just takes a ****ing long time if you have a **** load of apps installed.
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This is what I would do. I would perform a nandroid. After doing so I would then copy everything in the internal sd to your computer. When the new phone comes. Copy everything into the new phone's internal sd. Root your phone, install clockwork mod. Flash a new rom if you want if not no biggy. Load up into clockwork mod, do an advanced restore, restore data only. Reboot. Reboot again. Load back into clockwork mod, clear cache and dalvik. Reboot twice. Run fix permissions. Reboot. Everything should work with no errors and it will look identical to your last vibrant. You could condense this but I wrote it so that you could install buncha diff roms without having to do titanium restore because that just takes a ****ing long time if you have a **** load of apps installed.
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Thanks for the lengthy explanation , that makes the most sense.
I will try this method . Thanks for taking the time.
Hey rancome7 - did you try this method? How did it work for you.. I may just do this right now as im in the same situation of wanting to clone my Vibrant to a new Vibrant
Question - wont restoring data from a nandroid after installing a new ROM cause the rom to act funny since the old data may not agree with it or overwrite something?
I am looking at switching builds but dont want to have to reinstall everything post the new build install on my sd card.
What back up system do people recommend, and do any actually allow a full backup/restore that will work?
If not then i will have to reinstall everything, but that seems a really long winded way about switching builds!
Thanks
I save the data .img file from the current build. Then I copy the new Android folder on the root of the mem stick. Then I put the data .img file from the old intall back in the new folder.
The above suggestion doesn't always work. If you're going to a completely different build then it may cause problems.
I use Titanium Backup Pro. It does cost, but not much and allows a full backup and restore of all apps and data.
i just use the free titanium backup to backup all my apps. google sync for contacts and then all i have to do it set up a couple of things like wifi and it work
I used to use the free version, but the last restore I did had nearly 200 apps in it, and you have to click "install" and then "ok" for every app with the free version. The paid one does it without you needing to do anything - that's the only reason I paid for it. (Oh, and it can freeze apps too, which is good for finding out what would happen if you uninstalled an app.)
Hey, just had a quick question. I am a crack flasher, I flash many ROMs..and I saw someone recommend a complete flash, not use titanium, and let google backup/restore their apps/data. How do I get thsi to work properly? I have done multiple full wipes, and it has only done it for me ONCE, where I logged into GMAIL and it downladed all my apps back automatically...I tried the "market doctor" feature in Titanium, that didn't help. Anyone?
It has to be a fresh install, and as far as I know, AOSP-based, such as CM. The first time you run the Market, it will download and install anything on your userid's list of installed (or, depending on your sync config, downloaded and later deleted). In the case of CM7 with gapps, which is where I've used it, the Market runs during first boot sequence, but you can cancel it to set up WiFi and/or restore apps from TB and run it later.
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It has to be a fresh install, and as far as I know, AOSP-based, such as CM. The first time you run the Market, it will download and install anything on your userid's list of installed (or, depending on your sync config, downloaded and later deleted). In the case of CM7 with gapps, which is where I've used it, the Market runs during first boot sequence, but you can cancel it to set up WiFi and/or restore apps from TB and run it later.
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Run what later? Market, or a some setup app? If its like a run on first boot, setup app, how do I run it later? And also, when you say clean you just mean, factory/data reset, wipe cache, wipe davlik, flash new rom? I saw something about reformatting in clockwork or something...?
Market. If you install CM7 and gapps, you will be prompted at the startup of Market to Cancel or run. If you cancel, just start Market later...
And by clean, I mean a "factory wipe/reset" -- and in some cases, reformatting /system. Yes.
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Market. If you install CM7 and gapps, you will be prompted at the startup of Market to Cancel or run. If you cancel, just start Market later...
And by clean, I mean a "factory wipe/reset" -- and in some cases, reformatting /system. Yes.
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Thanks... So I went into mounts and storage, should I also format cache and other things in there, or just format system?.. And should I do the format before or after I do a factory wipe?
Also... There isn't a way to turn this back up off so that it won't restore my apps?
You can damage your phone with indiscriminate formatting. It's best if you do some reading and research on your own so that you gain a basic understanding of how your device operates under the hood.
A factory reset formats /data and /cache, it does not do anything else.
YOU should take the time to find out for yourself what information is stored in each partition. Knowledge is safer than blindly following some instructions you find online somewhere, eh?
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Yea... I don't get it. I just fully wiped, reformatted system, and reflashed cm7 and gapps, and market doesn't restore nearly all my applications that I had previously installed...? Is there an option somewhere that isn't allowing some apps to be backed up, or restored or what?
This has worked for me with certain phones, but only that the apps were restored. The data for the apps were never restored for me, and I don't think it ever intended to.
To be clear, Google keeps a list of the Market apps you acquire. They don't actually back up any application data. That's yours, and is private. They may know you've aquired a Pr0n video player, but not your particular category favorites. Well, they will know from your Google search terms. But not from your application list, unless there are specific apps dedicated to your peccadilloes.
The FIRST time Market is run with an existing account, the list will be used to download those applications once more. That's all.
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To be clear, Google keeps a list of the Market apps you acquire. They don't actually back up any application data. That's yours, and is private. They may know you've aquired a Pr0n video player, but not your particular category favorites. Well, they will know from your Google search terms. But not from your application list, unless there are specific apps dedicated to your peccadilloes.
The FIRST time Market is run with an existing account, the list will be used to download those applications once more. That's all.
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google should make something like the itune, where you can backup apps, contacts, data and stuff in your computer in one place. this is the only thing i like about an iphone.
So I ran into an issue with my locked-bootloader, unrooted MXPE 2015. I am running stock Marshmallow. I will note that I don't think this is really a bootloop, it seems to boot for a few seconds before a crash/reboot. I am able to boot into recovery, and am even able to trigger a safe-mode boot during the few seconds of uptime, where the safe-mode boot does not crash/reboot. I also suspect a Factory Reset will fully resolve the issue, unless the factory image got corrupted somehow... I do apologize, this is a long post.
I was essentially trying to make a backup to do a factory reset. Long story short, I was trying to use an app called Easy Backup that consolidates sms, mms, call logs, and that I had used in the past without issue. However this time that was not the case. I have a 16 GB version with an SD card, but have used ~8.5 GB of the internal free ~9.8 GB (I can't remember the exact numbers) and I constantly run into low storage situations with app caches and install sizes when doing updates. Normally clearing all app cache data is enough to get the downloads to go through.
So I go to run this backup app (with the default storage directory set on my external SD card) to have it uploaded to Google Drive, and after it gets close to finishing, I get errors about running out of storage, and then a cascade of apps crashing, and then a reboot. After the reboot, I check my Drive folder and see that the file never uploaded; the storage seems to have cleared up, but I clear my cache and the backup app's storage just in case (though it had already pretty much cleared back to the 8.5 GB used from before). I also notice some oddities like random settings suddenly having changed in certain apps. But I stupidly think no harm has been done, so maybe retrying after clearing up Cache space will work. So I tried to get the backup to run again after verifying the upload and storage location options (SD Card -not internal - and G Drive), but the same storage and crashing thing happens. It "finishes" the backup, and after a few seconds of the phone hanging and lagging, it reboots again. This time after the reboot I notice that apps are missing from my Nova Launcher home screen (but still in my app drawer), and go to restore a backup of Nova, except the overview and home buttons don't do anything, and then see that the notification shade can't be pulled to open the settings toggles. Then it suddenly reboots again. And now, unless I boot into safe mode, I get a few seconds of of it sitting at the home screen before the phone reboots. This same nav button and settings shade behavior are persistent in safe mode.
I guess my question is whether or not there is a way to pull off my SMS, MMS, Call log data (maybe in ADB?) while in safe mode. I have been trying to uninstall extraneous apps in Safe Mode to see if I can break the rebooting cycle, but no luck thus far.
On another note, should I go ahead and do a factory reset or should I contact Moto first (I have a Moto Care policy, though I've heard horror stories). I have never had this issue with this app before,
Any other recommendations and tips? It almost seems like the app tries to cache on my internal storage before moving to the destination folder, and in a low storage situation it seems to have corrupted something in the actual OS as well as my other apps.
Thank you, I appreciate your time!
If memory serves, apps like Easy Backup may store things on external storage or upload to the cloud, but use app cache space as temporary working space, thus most likely causing your storage issue. Erasing app cache likely wiped that out, and your are correct that a factory reset will likely clear up this issue.
Moto care doesn't care if an app messed up your system, and they won't help you with it other than to walk you through a factory reset first before sending the device in for replacement, as I suspect a factory reset will clear your issues up.
Have you tried clearing the cache partition in recovery?
Recovering your data will be impossible if you can't get it booted long enough to enable ADB and copy the files off.
If you can get if booted, I suggest using SMS Backup & Restore over your existing backup tool for this type of data... I have used it successfully for many years without issues (except when they accidentally had it set by default to delete all but the last 2 backup file on Google Drive, geesh, that sucked, but that isn't an issue anymore).
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If memory serves, apps like Easy Backup may store things on external storage or upload to the cloud, but use app cache space as temporary working space, thus most likely causing your storage issue. Erasing app cache likely wiped that out, and your are correct that a factory reset will likely clear up this issue.
Moto care doesn't care if an app messed up your system, and they won't help you with it other than to walk you through a factory reset first before sending the device in for replacement, as I suspect a factory reset will clear your issues up.
Have you tried clearing the cache partition in recovery?
Recovering your data will be impossible if you can't get it booted long enough to enable ADB and copy the files off.
If you can get if booted, I suggest using SMS Backup & Restore over your existing backup tool for this type of data... I have used it successfully for many years without issues (except when they accidentally had it set by default to delete all but the last 2 backup file on Google Drive, geesh, that sucked, but that isn't an issue anymore).
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Yes, I did try cleaning the cache partition, but to no avail. Ironically because I was messing with ROMs on my old 2013 moto x, I'm currently using that with CM 13. When I get back from work tonight I'll see about ADB, I think I may have set it up on it in the past, however I may have deactivated it. And yeah, I think I may have used that tool in the past, so I'll have to give it another look!
I thought that the Moto Care route may not be worth it, but I thought that I might as well check. If a reset doesn't solve things, I'll take another look. Thanks for the help, really appreciate it!
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If memory serves, apps like Easy Backup may store things on external storage or upload to the cloud, but use app cache space as temporary working space, thus most likely causing your storage issue. Erasing app cache likely wiped that out, and your are correct that a factory reset will likely clear up this issue.
Moto care doesn't care if an app messed up your system, and they won't help you with it other than to walk you through a factory reset first before sending the device in for replacement, as I suspect a factory reset will clear your issues up.
Have you tried clearing the cache partition in recovery?
Recovering your data will be impossible if you can't get it booted long enough to enable ADB and copy the files off.
If you can get if booted, I suggest using SMS Backup & Restore over your existing backup tool for this type of data... I have used it successfully for many years without issues (except when they accidentally had it set by default to delete all but the last 2 backup file on Google Drive, geesh, that sucked, but that isn't an issue anymore).
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So I did get in and take another look, however developer options just shows "Developer permissions not available for this user." So I think i may be hosed. I'll give it another go and see what I can try to salvage from booting into safe mode again. Thank you for the help and recommendations, this willteach me not to be using something like SMS backup instead (and consistently, haha).
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So I did get in and take another look, however developer options just shows "Developer permissions not available for this user." So I think i may be hosed. I'll give it another go and see what I can try to salvage from booting into safe mode again. Thank you for the help and recommendations, this willteach me not to be using something like SMS backup instead (and consistently, haha).
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Sounds like you are in a Guest user account, can you switch users?
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Sounds like you are in a Guest user account, can you switch users?
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So I looked at that, and it says I am logged into my account. Photos below:
So coincidentally, I just got it connected to my wifi while in safe mode, and it hasn't crashed/rebooted since that (it still was doing that prior). I can get into the play store, so I am going to try to get my sms/call logs/mms. Home and overview buttons are still broken, and the notification shade is still borked. So No ADB backup, but at least I have most things on my SD card and was on MM, so the app backups should help get restarted. Once I get everything checked/backed-up that I can, I'll try a factory reeset, and failing that a call to moto care *cringes*.
Thanks for the help everyone! I learned my lesson on small-storage phones...
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So I looked at that, and it says I am logged into my account. Photos below:
So coincidentally, I just got it connected to my wifi while in safe mode, and it hasn't crashed/rebooted since that (it still was doing that prior). I can get into the play store, so I am going to try to get my sms/call logs/mms. Home and overview buttons are still broken, and the notification shade is still borked. So No ADB backup, but at least I have most things on my SD card and was on MM, so the app backups should help get restarted. Once I get everything checked/backed-up that I can, I'll try a factory reeset, and failing that a call to moto care *cringes*.
Thanks for the help everyone! I learned my lesson on small-storage phones...
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Do you have a corporate account on the device that is a Device Administrator? That is the only other thing I can think of that could cause something like that.
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Do you have a corporate account on the device that is a Device Administrator? That is the only other thing I can think of that could cause something like that.
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No, nothing like that. It's my own personal device with no work emails, and in fact I had previously used USB debugging to backup pictures when my SD Card got corrupted. All of this weirdness occured after the failed backups, and just speculating it honestly seems like when the app ran out of room it just kept going and started overwriting random bits (ie the Nova Launcher settings/ homescreen), and might be why the Navigation buttons/Notification shade are broken. But that's just me spit-balling , so really there might be no telling what happened.
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No, nothing like that. It's my own personal device with no work emails, and in fact I had previously used USB debugging to backup pictures when my SD Card got corrupted. All of this weirdness occured after the failed backups, and just speculating it honestly seems like when the app ran out of room it just kept going and started overwriting random bits (ie the Nova Launcher settings/ homescreen), and might be why the Navigation buttons/Notification shade are broken. But that's just me spit-balling , so really there might be no telling what happened.
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Well... Try to get off what you can, then factory reset, I imagine things will improve greatly.
I just had an issue similar to this... phone (1575) would reboot (continuous reboot) after about 30-45 seconds every time (reminded me of TV show Lost where you had only a certain amount of time before you had to reset)... enough to uninstall a GPS app I was tinkering with a few hours prior... enough to delete cache... enough to reboot into recover to wipe cache partition... about 4 reboots to finally download a Google app update (which in the end said it couldn't successfully install) etc. Sometimes powering off would reboot instead (and after a while could not reboot into safe mode, just a normal reboot) so the few times I had the phone off, I took out/reset the SIM and SD card. What seemed to solve it was taking out the SD card (formatted as External, but was always a pain -- a week or so ago it "disappeared" and had to reformat the SD card (just downloaded stuff)) and when I powered it up this morning, no more reboots. Of course for now, no more added storage But saved me a full factory reset.